Don't give Tuppence if they swear a bit - first time I've seen a video of this route which is gone now. Still got my place in Folkestone despite being 10,000 miles away now.
I was there in the far ‘84 ....the first and unique time Iv been in England ( Rome-Calais by train....the ferry..train Folkestone to London Victoria ...sweet memories)
great video 👍shame it closed disappointed I never saw it when it was running pity heritage railway never took it over I last went down there in March and plan to go again next week to see what they have done in the last 6 months
Not surprising it closed really, with the very limited traffic once the Channel Tunnel opened. It was Network Rail’s most expensive mile of railway to maintain!
@TheRenaissanceman65 and why do you need to say yes, so? He’s just telling us same information about folkestone east and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that
the line was turned into a single track 2000 even though the you can see the other one and the trains used to come london Victoria and reverse into those sidings. when they reduced the amount of ferrys with the opening of the channel tunnel which eventually lead to closure of all ferry’s in 2000 the line shut in 2009 (officially 2014)however after the 2000 it was only gala devices or special trains that went down there however they still use the sidings in the first bit
Maybe there would of been a spur that the former Folkestone Harbour branch line would of connected onto from Folkestone Central. Very sad to see the branch line now gone and there are remains of it today.
At a punt I'm going to say class 67. It is definitely an EMD 2 stroke, and the 57's at the time were in use with frieghtliner, great western and virgin. The driver also says its "a 125 mph machine." So a class 67.
Interesting to find out what this locomotive type was. Doesn't sound like a Class 67 though I could be wrong. Also looks like the line hadn't been 'singled' yet when this was taken. Where does EBB on the signal relate to?
Agree. Though the staple diet on VSOE operations is the Class 67 either heading or one located top and tail. 'Shed' must have been some sort of substitution for a 'Skip' shortage that day. Would most likely have adjoined at Folk East rather than been top and tailed down from London Vic. Thanks for that :o)
The third rail looks rusty..was it ever used? If the branch had been electrified much earlier than it was a couple of powerful 3rd rail electric locos might have been v successful with heavy trains and eliminated the need for all those tank engines... am I right or wrong?
It was indeed used - it ran electric trains from 1962 until (presumably) the end of regular services in 2001, so that's about six years of surface rust on the third rail. As for the speculative part: Probably! The Southern Railway did have some success with third-rail locos hauling large freight loads (the CC1 and CC2).
Silly how there are so many tracks (at least 8) at that junction yet the train to the harbour and the passenger train which zips past at the start of the video get just a single track each. Guess it would derail if it went any faster and that bridge looks like it's ready to collapse. No investment and no redundancy so one little track fault and the whole network goes down which sounds about right for British rail!
Care to justify that claim? You calling them "engine drivers" implies to me you're not from this country, and as per above I havent seen any large number of train drivers who act as if they're special _because of_ their profession.
Why? If you don't like hearing swearing, then in the kindest way possible, that's a you problem. It's not like they're sat in a public place, if you don't like it you can click off, and not everyone will agree that "rude words" are a big deal.
The place looks like landfill. You pay to go on a train end up in shit hole like that! mad. You'd ask the staff "where are you taking us, chernobyl.?".
Crappy overcast weather makes this vid seem overexposed. And despite the F bombs a most uninspiring journey, over a boring, messy, decaying line indeed.
Why? They're not customer service employees, so I don't see a problem. Despite what some may think (you included by the looks) train drivers aren't some sort of chivalrous noble order. Go to any building site, machine or welding shop and you'll hear the same language or worse
Why is it a must for the loony's in this video that they have to swear, is it a requisite?. So modern and lowlife. You do not have to swear, we understand English without swearing. Totally ruined a nice little clip. YUK!!
I had a HST cab ride video Reading to London Paddington once ruined by the same problem. All had been fine from Bristol until one of Tony Barry's loonies joined us in the cab and EVERY other word was F ... All 35 miles of it!!!
They're not customer service employees, so I don't see a problem. Despite what some may think (you included by the looks) train drivers aren't some sort of chivalrous noble order. Go to any building site, machine or welding shop and you'll hear the same language or worse
I clearly see your point. However as a driver of nearly eight years I'd at least have the decency to curb my language if on film as after all I want to leave everyone with the best impression of myself as a person. After all I wouldn't know who is going to end up watching the footage ... Plus there is Karma of course! Imagine if my Mother ends up seeing me referring to that Tony Barry chap as 'King C**t' like much of the rest of Reading did ... I was not brought up like that!!! I think I'm looking for the word 'appropriate' somewhere in this but as you mention on a day to day basis people will act accordingly and with the culture of their organisation or job.
1959 London Victoria - Folkestone - Calais - Milan, again in 1966 and 1968 . . . pleasant memories. Folkestone been a part of my story for 63 years.
Don't give Tuppence if they swear a bit - first time I've seen a video of this route which is gone now. Still got my place in Folkestone despite being 10,000 miles away now.
Lucky you
Best f'ing commentary ever!
I was there in the far ‘84 ....the first and unique time Iv been in England ( Rome-Calais by train....the ferry..train Folkestone to London Victoria ...sweet memories)
thank you for the footage
great bit of footage ...always wanted to go here
Such a shame that the railway line got closed down.
Enjoyed that walked the old line last week
Really interesting vid. Thx
great video 👍shame it closed disappointed I never saw it when it was running pity heritage railway never took it over I last went down there in March and plan to go again next week to see what they have done in the last 6 months
Not surprising it closed really, with the very limited traffic once the Channel Tunnel opened. It was Network Rail’s most expensive mile of railway to maintain!
Cool never seen the trains of Folkstone properly
Was there yesterday,
Folkestone East Was shut to passengers in the mid 1960's
@TheRenaissanceman65 and why do you need to say yes, so? He’s just telling us same information about folkestone east and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that
Great vid.
Interesting start to the journey with a single line into Harbour station, two platforms, how and where did the passenger trains run too?.
the line was turned into a single track 2000 even though the you can see the other one and the trains used to come london Victoria and reverse into those sidings. when they reduced the amount of ferrys with the opening of the channel tunnel which eventually lead to closure of all ferry’s in 2000 the line shut in 2009 (officially 2014)however after the 2000 it was only gala devices or special trains that went down there however they still use the sidings in the first bit
This line's already in the throes of abandonment, evidently.
Maybe there would of been a spur that the former Folkestone Harbour branch line would of connected onto from Folkestone Central. Very sad to see the branch line now gone and there are remains of it today.
*would have
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz You bet me to it. Shame English isn't taught in schools any more.
great video footage... what class is the traction pls?
At a punt I'm going to say class 67. It is definitely an EMD 2 stroke, and the 57's at the time were in use with frieghtliner, great western and virgin. The driver also says its "a 125 mph machine." So a class 67.
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Why did the VSOE keep running there after the ferry stopped?
Kool
Interesting to find out what this locomotive type was. Doesn't sound like a Class 67 though I could be wrong. Also looks like the line hadn't been 'singled' yet when this was taken. Where does EBB on the signal relate to?
Flyfactors UK it sounds like a class 66 at 7:47
Agree. Though the staple diet on VSOE operations is the Class 67 either heading or one located top and tail. 'Shed' must have been some sort of substitution for a 'Skip' shortage that day. Would most likely have adjoined at Folk East rather than been top and tailed down from London Vic. Thanks for that :o)
EBB was Folkestone Harbour, gone along with the line.
Interesting.
Just wanna ask did the trains to Folkestone always go that frustratingly slow
The state of the track dictated the speed.
Also you are going down a 1 in 30 gradient so don't want to be going to fast.
Look at the litter everywhere! Railways are depressing places nowadays. People took a pride when I was young.
I was a fireman on the steam there when rostered from Dover, folkestone harbour was litter free in those days
Did they though, or is your memory selective?
The third rail looks rusty..was it ever used? If the branch had been electrified much earlier than it was a couple of powerful 3rd rail electric locos might have been v successful with heavy trains and eliminated the need for all those tank engines... am I right or wrong?
It was indeed used - it ran electric trains from 1962 until (presumably) the end of regular services in 2001, so that's about six years of surface rust on the third rail. As for the speculative part: Probably! The Southern Railway did have some success with third-rail locos hauling large freight loads (the CC1 and CC2).
Not just the third rail that is rusty and look at the state of those bridges! If the train went any faster it would end up in the harbour!
Is profanity part of the job description?
Fuck yeah.
And lots of effing swearing too!
Silly how there are so many tracks (at least 8) at that junction yet the train to the harbour and the passenger train which zips past at the start of the video get just a single track each. Guess it would derail if it went any faster and that bridge looks like it's ready to collapse. No investment and no redundancy so one little track fault and the whole network goes down which sounds about right for British rail!
Have they built houses on it yet?
No
You can walk where the bridge was
And the station
So, British trains just like their cars also run on the wrong side? Interesting.
No, everyone else drives on the wrong side of the road.
Engine drivers present themselves as some kind of elite. This clip proves otherwise.
Aisling Michaela O'Neill not in this country they don’t
Care to justify that claim? You calling them "engine drivers" implies to me you're not from this country, and as per above I havent seen any large number of train drivers who act as if they're special _because of_ their profession.
Is the swearing really necessary? Just use music, I muted sound.
You delicate being
@@CableWrestler Demonstrates a poverty of speech, in both senses of meaning.
should never have closed it
It was losing money
@@CableWrestler make it work
@@enjoyyourday5870 Make it work how?
The hotel inthe background full of "immigrants"
Good video but drivers need to watch language
Grow up. Forget the monastery.
Why? If you don't like hearing swearing, then in the kindest way possible, that's a you problem. It's not like they're sat in a public place, if you don't like it you can click off, and not everyone will agree that "rude words" are a big deal.
The place looks like landfill. You pay to go on a train end up in shit hole like that! mad. You'd ask the staff "where are you taking us, chernobyl.?".
Chavtastic.
Potty mouth train crew
Crappy overcast weather makes this vid seem overexposed. And despite the F bombs a most uninspiring journey, over a boring, messy, decaying line indeed.
Real shame about the foul language. Does nothing for their industry.
Why? They're not customer service employees, so I don't see a problem. Despite what some may think (you included by the looks) train drivers aren't some sort of chivalrous noble order. Go to any building site, machine or welding shop and you'll hear the same language or worse
They're not continuity announcers on Radio Four. They're train drivers. I'd have been swearing if I'd seen people loitering near the track
Nonsense. Wake up and smell the thorns.
Why is it a must for the loony's in this video that they have to swear, is it a requisite?. So modern and lowlife. You do not have to swear, we understand English without swearing. Totally ruined a nice little clip. YUK!!
I had a HST cab ride video Reading to London Paddington once ruined by the same problem. All had been fine from Bristol until one of Tony Barry's loonies joined us in the cab and EVERY other word was F ... All 35 miles of it!!!
They're not customer service employees, so I don't see a problem. Despite what some may think (you included by the looks) train drivers aren't some sort of chivalrous noble order. Go to any building site, machine or welding shop and you'll hear the same language or worse
I clearly see your point. However as a driver of nearly eight years I'd at least have the decency to curb my language if on film as after all I want to leave everyone with the best impression of myself as a person. After all I wouldn't know who is going to end up watching the footage ... Plus there is Karma of course! Imagine if my Mother ends up seeing me referring to that Tony Barry chap as 'King C**t' like much of the rest of Reading did ... I was not brought up like that!!! I think I'm looking for the word 'appropriate' somewhere in this but as you mention on a day to day basis people will act accordingly and with the culture of their organisation or job.
Mike Peirson fuck off
Mike Peirson when did you hatch out. Yesterday?