I dial in my subwoofers using the Jurassic Park method. I play the movie while slowly increasing the gain until the glass of water on my coffee table starts rippling.
OMG!!! I followed your steps exactly and it sounds awesome. Before, I would run Audyssey and leave it, but it never sounded right. The sub would be anemic, I would bump it's level up in the AV settings, now sub would overpower everything. By using this method, the sound is now one giant wall of powerful sound!!! Thank you so much.
I also use the "next room" test. I do all the steps here and while I'm testing I hop over to the next room and see if it still sounds good. If the bass is still muted I know to keep increasing. If it doesn't sound and FEEL like Bruce Springsteen is in your living room then keep adjusting.
Your headset mic sounds less dynamic than the videocamera mic, like you're in a box. But it does cut out some of the annoying echo from the room, which by the way, could really use some acoustical treatment. That would be an interesting topic to cover, like basstraps and so on.
Yeah, I need a dedicated lavalier mic. My camera phone mic just wasn't picking up my voice like I need it to, and I haven't listened to this video on the setup yet. My laptop speakers are a joke, but I figure I need to make sure it's audible on something like that. Anything I do acoustically needs to be living room friendly. But you have given me a fun idea that I may try in the future. Any thoughts on living room friendly treatments?
Well I know you can get absorbers with a poster printed on them so they double as decoration. Then we have diffusers, which can look like modern art when mounted. You can also paint them to match the walls. For something less permanent you can get freestanding absorbers which can be moved out of the way when not in use. You can also hang absorbers from the ceiling. I believe they are called ceiling clouds to treat the front soundstage. To make them more appealing you can put LED lightstrips on top of them so they glow with indirect light which gives a nice "theater" look. Even better if its RGB to set the mood with dimmable controls. So many options, and it CAN look nice if done right :)
+Droidz Hunterz Yeah the poster idea is what I was thinking. Didn't know they existed, don't know who makes them, but I was thinking about something similar with my own designs printed on speaker fabric, with absorbing foam behind it. All Interesting ideas. Whether I can truly get them to look like they truly belong in a living room is the trick. I have a lot of fun, but I don't want my wife to feel like it's not her living room anymore. So far, she has no complaints, and I prefer to keep it that way. Who makes those posters?
I found this idea interesting for the eclectic crowd. Seems to be living moss. I'm curious what the actual strain of moss it is. scandiamoss.com/function/ They also have it on Amazon, that's where I found it when searching for acoustic panels. Definitely outside of the box.
When you talk but lowering the subwoofer trim on the receiver, my yamaha rx 2070 has a subwoofer trim adjuster that goes -6db-0-+6db and then I have my subwoofer level adjuster in that goes as low as -10db. Which is the one you refer to even for the hack gain? Thanks
turning up the sub till it Fills in what has been missing is great advice..yes most newbies overdrive the sub so it completely dominates the track instead of complimenting it...they want to "hear and feel " the bass that they have paid for! I know a guy who does same with his surround channels, he thinks he should be hearing them All the time ,like his main speakers! otherwise, he feels they arent working...try to tell him that they Arent suppossed to be loud like the fronts and center and he will agrue the point..soooo , he runs his system with overblown bass and super loud surrounds..."as long as YOU like it bro" thats what matters!
Share this video with him, as well as my "Speaker Level Hack" which uses specific content to properly level your channels even better than room correction: czcams.com/video/cL4IEkSFoiw/video.html He may want to see the Atmos Hack, even if he doesn't have Atmos, or the "Unlock Your Blu Ray Hack". All too often, people aren't getting the lossless audio because of an annoying default setting in their Blu Ray player, which also screws with how the surround speakers sound. "Unlock your Blu Ray": czcams.com/video/DkHWn2aym8U/video.html I appreciate the positive feedback!
Thank you, thank you, watched your sub hack, I think I've fixed my rel T7i subwoofer clipping, (very annoying) I've dropped the LFE level from 0.0 to -10, going to watch 4k Ready player one and 4k Alita.
Bluetooth in general can be a little sketchy. Range can really be an issue. I use an Amazon Fire 4K stick, and mostly Tidal or CZcams. Sometimes I'll use the Spotify or Tidal Apps on the Denon, but the Fire gets the most use. Just a matter of convenience, honestly.
Hi Ryan! Yesterday, I reran Audyssey, this time with close measurement points as in your video, near our seating area. Our week old SVS PB1000 Pro Subwoofer position is cornered with about 8 inches away from the front left side wall. Read SVS tutorials from website and our PB1000 Pro sub instructions card. Set -15 on the Subwoofer volume before the Calibration. After completion, the AVR set Subwoofer level at -8.5db. Finally, I set it at default -10 on the Subwoofer volume and -4.0db on the AVR Subwoofer trim level. It sounds great and cohesive right off the bat! I would settle for this, unless there's something off that I am not aware about. Please advise. Thanks 😊
I have 2 subs in a 12*12 room that are basically y’ed together..one is behind the tv maybe 10’ in front on coach,and the other 3’ behind our sitting area..How would I balance these out. Thanks for all your videos..I really enjoy them all! Peace.
I have two klipsch reference 12 inch subs and a set of old klipsch towers that have built in 15inch subs and there sealed units but Iv always keep the Gain and everything at a 7 o'clock seems to be OK
I have a Paradigm PDR-10, I am having a few issues adjusting the crossover on my Yamaha RX-V483. Your advice was mucho helpful moving my tower, Center, and Rear to Small. The Yamaha sets the Crossover to 60 hz. Move it to 80 in the receiver and the Cut-Off on the Sub to 90 hz?
Subwoofer 101 No problem. Also, have you considered using a power conditioner for your equipment? I've seen reviews that say they help improve video/audio quality.
I have one of those Kill O Watt meters, and my power is pretty good to begin with. I may request one for review at some point to give it an honest shot, but it's not at the top of my list at the moment. If my power was wonky, I'd be a lot more interested. I wonder about the performance increase per dollar spent, my general take is that it's up there with expensive speaker cables for those who already have good power, but I admit I could be misinformed. I certainly haven't thought to myself, "my power sounds dirty", but then you don't know what you don't know. If any reviews stand out to you, I'd be interested to check them out if you would post a link.
Subwoofer 101 I was only made aware of conditioners when a friend, who has a music studio, came over and I showed off my new PB-2000's and Klipsch system. As soon as he sat down he recommended I get a conditioner. I have everything in a surge protector and figured I'm fine, but recently I've been learning a lot about different brands and benefits of having one. Apparently Furman is the king in this dept. So now I'm saving for one.
As someone who has a power conditioner for my Desktop setup with studio monitors and a second for my home theater set up I don't user power conditioners to improve my audio. I use them as better surge protectors as I don't trust the several thousand dollars of tech to a cheap power strip/surge protector. I bought my first conditioner to help with audio quality though as at that time I was living in a home with 5v of fluctuation which caused popping sounds on my monitors. New apartment doesn't have that issue but still worth it to me.
Hi friend, I just received a new SB2000 and hooked up to a Yamaha RX-V477. I set the sub gain at half n ran YPAO n resulted having -5db on the avr sw trim. After that I started listening to my usual tracks. I found the bass is a little too light for my preference. By referring to your suggestion, I should crank up the sub gain more by keeping the avr sw trim as it is? Thanks I used to have a klipsch KSW10 for a few years till it broken down. Therefore I bought the SVS
Check the dog for a heartbeat ? I have a 1993 Denon only for music loud 12in sub and 2x 3ways and vifa center set on 5 channel stereo if that's correct ? lt has a tone button that seems to balance the speakers faster than me but , i don't have video interface just the front panel so how would you set the subwoofer sir ?
1st thing I noticed even before you mentioned it even was that your voice sounded different. Seems a little more "low-fi" but, that said it does seem more clear. Maybe fewer highs fewer lows are ideal for this scenario.
Agree you need to sort the mic out. I found the voice on this video too waffly and distorted, and with so much fast talking going on, that I wasn't quite catching, I zoned out on the whole point you were trying to get across, sorry. That said, I am not one of the dislikers, I don't go around disliking other peoples efforts, it's just an observation :)
Yeah, i don't really think(gotta compare in everry circumstances , and then you can decide yourself), this recommendation on setting one's AVRs sub gain setting levels to "0" , and then conversely adjusting the actual powered sub(s) levels , will IMPROVE DYNAMICS! ..at least as a blanket result that's always the case..or even usually the case! Relative gain the subs amplifier sees should be basically the same, regardless of he relationship between AVR gain output vs input, and the subs own internal gain from the volume nob. And IF there is a consistently correct setting guideline betwixt the two grains, then its likely a very small relative variable difference im thinking. In fact , especially on THX recommended products, im sure the recommended setup parameters world recommended setting one gain either higher or lower, relatively speaking, if it did indeed matter !!! If i remember correctly, on a THX subwoofer, there is usually a THX dedicated switch that defeats the gain control all together(assuming maximum sub gain default) , and you must adjust levels (above "0" ) on your AVR pr pre pro from there!. Although it's been a while since ive used THX equip. Gonna go research. HOWEVER, regardless, its simply going to come down to comparing, listening, and measuring, to be 100% sure which settings yields the best results. Then nothing matters but the results anyway
The mic seems to pick up less of the room which is good, but it doesn't seem to pick up the higher end frequencies as well as the previous mic; a "boxy" sound like others have described.
I have a SVS PB12 subwoofer. I’m wanting dual subwoofers but I can’t seem to find another one like this. I was wondering what you thought might be the best subwoofer that would be comparable so I could pair them together. Thank you
The PB-2000 (original, not the Pro version) is on special right now, that's pretty close. Also check the SVS Outlet, sometimes they have the PB12-NSD in stock. Or do you have the PB-12 Plus? 1 port or 3? So long as you order factory direct, you would have a one year trade-in window. I mention that because the PB-2000 Pro's are pretty awesome. The Pro's true potency would get lost if paired with a PB12-NSD, it's a weird thing that happens. Weaker sub tends to determine the potency. Weakest link kind of thing. Let me know if that helps!
Hi, really enjoy your vids (from the UK). Just a quick question please, Audyssey suggests a 75dB sub match at the start but to me that is far too low. Do you set yours to 75dB to run Audyssey and then go in and up the subs after, or do you run them hot from the start? I've tried it many ways but I prefer to ignore the Audyssey suggestion and run mine at 84dB from the start. Just seems to sound much better, but am I wrong doing this?? Thanks in advance.
His method is this: 1. Run Audyssey 2. Back off Audyssey's sub level to -6 and below. 3. Drop sub volume knob to zero 4. Play some bass heavy music of your liking 5. Slowly raise sub volume on the sub till it sounds right to you Method worked wonderfully for me.
You mentioned about gain, how about phase? When do you use phase? And how do you use phase effectively? What are phase for? On the other hand, my sub is crossover to 80Hz and all speakers set to small. When do you set to LFE? Thanks.
+Luis Danilo Ancheta Phase is a matter of timing, if two speakers are "in phase", their cones move forward at exactly the same time. If their phase was 180 degrees from one another, or opposite phase, one cone would move forward while the other moved backwards. This is almost impossible to see in real time. I set the phase to zero and use the distance settings to effectively adjust phase. When you use room correction, it adjusts timing so that everything is "in phase" accounting for different physical distances. (I believe). So all of the sound should hit you at the proper time, more or less. Bass tends to cancel a little like this, and what I've found for me is that adding about 4 feet to the subwoofer distance works out pretty well. The bass is a little fuller that way, and REW measurements support this. In short, I leave phase at zero on the subs, and make any timing/phase adjustments using the distance settings in the AVR.
To Manually set Phase correctly (not using room correction such as Audyssey): - let your speakers play full range (ie: mine play down to 50Hz) - set crossover on sub to 10Hz above (ie: mine 60Hz) - Play some music with bass, adjust volume so Sub is noticeable but not too loud - play the lowest frequency of your speakers (ie: mine 50Hz tone). can download a free tone generator app for phone or computer…) - use SPL meter ( or smartphone with SPL meter app works). I use settings C-Weighted, Fast, Low on SPL meter) - cycle through Phase settings (typical 0, 45, 90, 135, 180, 225, 270, 315) and look for the lowest SPL level = Null Point - if Null Point is 0-180 then add 180 = your Phase setting. if Null Point is 181-359 then subtract 180 = your Phase Setting. - now you can play with your Crossover settings (ie: Speakers set to 70 Hz, Subwoofer to 80 Hz. etc…) If Dual subs are both in front like in this video, use this method to setup each subwoofer individually (or just use the same setting). If running one sub on front wall and one sub on rear wall then flip phase 180 degrees from the setting you determined on front sub. (ie: if front sub 135, then rear sub 315) enjoy !
Where is the sub gain video you mentioned? What is the theory of uping the sub gain and lowering the avr trim. I have to run my denon avr at -11 to get 10 o'clock on my sub gain dial. Do svs recommend the trim down sub gain up idea?
+Stevo19801 That video got deleted. I selected a different video to delete, but that one disappeared instead. I need to upload it again. But yes, the higher the gain on the subs, the more dynamic they will sound. Ed Mullen and I both agree that so long as your AVR subwoofer trim isn't bottomed out, you should be good. By running a little higher gain on the subs, it's almost like getting a more powerful sub. So long as it's still balanced, I see it as a great adjustment, apartment dwelling aside. For apartments, I suggest going the other way to reduce bleeding over to neighboring apartments, bringing the AVR trim up and gain on the subs down. In that case, I wouldn't go over 0.0 on the AVR. For apartments, people can still get the depth, but reduce dynamics to keep the peace a little better.
Subwoofer 101 so if I have the trim to -11 on my denon amp and the gain on the sub at 11 o'clock to reach 75db that's fine, as you say I just don't want the trim on the denon at -12 (it's limit). what's is wrong with going to -12 on the amp and turning the sub up to 12 o'clock then?
+Stevo19801 So long as the balance of bass plays well with music and movies, not at thing in the world. When the subs seem intrusive, that's a sign that you might need to back it down. That point is different with everyone. You can also run the AVR trim a little higher than audyssey to have thicker bass. When I was running dual PB-2000's, I had both subs gain at 65% and the AVR trim at -9.0 or so. Super thick bass with great dynamics, but still not intrusive to my ear. So long as your happy with the sound, that's all that's important. Room correction never has it as bass heavy as I'd like, and it's ok to color outside of the lines. Especially with subs that have a flat response, you can run the subs heavier with less penalty, where typical shallow subs will be unbearable at certain frequencies if you turn it up too much. Which subs are you running?
I was interested in SVS initially for the subwoofers. Without a doubt, their speakers have been a very pleasant surprise. I've emailed back and forth with Smith Freeman, the head design engineer, and he was shooting for a sound that mimicked some very impressive and expensive speakers. The design of the Prime Center is very good, with high quality crossovers and drivers. It's also built like a tank. I've spent nearly 2 years with this center channel and it has never disappointed me. I believe you will be pleased, most are. It's hard to find fault with them. If it's not trouble, please follow this link: sub101.link/PrimeCenter I'm the first ever SVS affiliate, so following this link before buying helps support this channel. I wouldn't steer you wrong though, because returns count against me. The Prime series speakers are super easy for me to recommend.
+Jason Southwell Either Dolby Digital most of the time, or Stereo. DTS is ok too, but I prefer Dolby. I use the red Music button too, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it really makes.
Have you tested to put one sub behind the sofa or beside and have one still beside the tv..? Does that work Good and calibrate whit the denon..? Or do you need to have Theme both at same distance..?
Try a diy sealed subs with a Hypex nCore amp. U will likely leave the branded SVS etc Totally agree pair subs min 10” per side is min to anyone who starts. The subs in your video looks like a mini fridge
Can't tolerate sealed subs due to a medical condition, which is very unfortunate for me and what I do. That said, what do you know about the new SVS subwoofer amps? Have you heard the new Class D design, which is very well thought out for driving subs? Lastly, the ported subs on my list, including and especially SVS, tend to have more relative output under 40 hertz compared to their sealed counterparts. This provides a deeper depth of presentation, even if the sealed extend deeper in room. I did a video called "Going deep versus sounding deep", which explains more, but the ported subs on my list have a deeper sound than the vast majority of subs out there. This creates its own set of problems, which I talked about in my most recent video. In short, I don't believe I would abandon the subs on my best subwoofers list. Class D amplification is the way to go for subs these days, that's for sure.
I evaluated at my home a SB 6000 fir a week vs my Hypex nCore amp with pair 10” sealed peerless XLS subs and miniDSP 2x4hd in music it was far better in some movie scenes SVS was better but I choose pair fir overall price and sheer performance and fexibility There were many bass effects I couldn’t hear on SVS Also with your sensitivity towards sealed issue please try dipole OB bass see if u like My wife couldn’t allow me to buy a mini fridge SVS looking subs
A pair will almost always sound better. What you are telling me exactly coincides with my Top 6 problems with deep bass. #1 in fact. SVS doesn't make an SB-6000, so I'm not sure which one you heard, but regardless, ported offer more kick below 40 hertz.
So do you suggest turning up gain first then volume to get in the sweet spot of -10db to -6db? Or would you keep gain at 0 and adjust volume for the sweetspot? I have a rythmik fv15hp. Thanks in advance
Sometimes your AVR has subwoofer level matching in the room correction, shooting for a gain of 75 db. I set mine to 82--83 instead, which should get you there. With a single, you might be pushing the sub to misbehave, another matching sub would really make a difference and be loads better overall. Otherwise, yes, bump the gain first. No matter how you get there, if the AVR trim sounds balanced between -6 and -10 (I'm running -11.5 and it sounds good) you should be in good shape.
That's a very interesting question, with a lot of answers! For sure, it has a very flat anechoic (& outdoor ground plane) response curve. It's been referred to as ruler flat, which is good. However, because of room gain, it gets a little louder as it goes deeper. So in room response is not flat. But our hearing is funky, because the deeper the bass is, the harder it is to hear. So, while the answer is yes and no, they sound like they have a very flat response curve in room. So the short answer is yes, but it's a complicated way of getting there. 😂
@@Subwoofer101 Lol I think I understand. I'm trying to dial it in right now (I've only got one - I'd get two but I was told that if it comes down to one pb16 ultra and two 2000s, to go with the ultra), and I can't seem to get my bass just right (I know there are tons of things that go into bass management).
Funny, I had both a **single** PB-16 Ultra, and dual PB-2000 originals. Had to wait 4 months for the second PB-16 because they kept selling out. After days of trying to get them all to work together, and just listening to the single PB-16, I just turned the PB-16 off, in favor of the dual PB-2000's. Crazy, but true. Once I got the second PB-16 Ultra, I finally understood what the big deal was. Holy TNT batman! If you're deciding between the PB-16 as a single, I would go with either dual PB-2000 Pro's, or dual PB-3000's.
So if my AVR sets my sub to -15 dB (which is the lowest setting), does that mean my sub gain volume is too high? Also can I set the AVR at LFE+main even though I have small front speakers? I like the added bass by the subs when listening in 2.0 channel stereo for music.
I'm curious about this as well. That's what happened after I ran Audyssey. I might have been too generous with the gain (over 3/4 on PB-1000). I'm going to dial it back and try again.
Sounds like your sub gain is too high on the unit. You want your AVR level somewhere around -6.0 db. Turn the gain down and repeat the process until it sounds really good at around -6.0dB. That level still gives you a ton of headroom. At -15 it probably sounds boomy
Check out some of the Home Free songs for a sub check. All acapella group, the bass singer Tim Foust, damn, that man can get LOW! Just a thought, would LOVE to hear your thoughts after playing some of their songs on your system. /cheers!
Nothing extreme. Carpet on the floor and textiles. Because it's mixed use, I need to keep it living room friendly. Egg crates on the walls and giant bass traps are pretty much non starters. Just the carpet on the floor makes a big difference though.
That's ok. Egg crates don't work anyway. You should build some absorption panels using OC703 or equivalent and wrap them with printed art on canvas though. That will not only look appealing to the wife and family, but also be porous enough in relation to sound waves, allowing the 703 to soak up those reflections. Gotta be quite thick to be used as bass traps, but for about $150 you can make around 6 of them and stick them at the first/second reflection points or behind your listening position for an ENORMOUS difference in reflected sound.
They do, but they don't sell them directly except for special occasions. You can get them on Amazon: amzn.to/2uvUB7A (affiliate link) Sometimes you can find them in the SVS outlet store: bit.ly/OutletSVS (affiliate link)
@@Subwoofer101 hey dude I have a question I just got another sub I have 2 soundstage LF300 12 inch subs they are 300watts Anyways I have my crossover on my receiver set at 90hz and on my sub they are set at like 80 I’d say it sounds good but I want more soft like blending I guess. Do you set the crossover high on receiver and lower on subs ? I know a little bit about home Audio but kinda need some help on setting crossover
Subwoofers will have room gain when indoors vs outdoors, for sure. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. A subwoofer that gets a little louder as it goes deeper is ideal in my opinion, which is where the room gain comes in, the deep end. Of course there's too much of a good thing, but that's why I recommend the subs that I do. The balance of bass is measurably good.
I'm having a hard time dialing in my subwoofer to my home theater system I don't know if it's too powerful or what but I can't get it to blend the last time I had it was a PSP and it Blended in perfectly this new one I'm having a hard time any suggestions? I've tried everything
Stephanie Rodriguez Tell me what you are working with. AVR model? Subwoofer(s)? Gain setting on the subwoofer? Subwoofer Level setting on the AVR? Crossover settings in the AVR? Have you run room correction? Distance value on the subwoofer in the AVR? Which speakers do you have? Be sure all speakers are set to Small, not large.
A Denon AVR 3400h elac F6 Towers with the center channel and the b4s as surrounds I 5.1 right now and a 10 inch Monoprice monolith Ultra 2 as a subwoofer
Crossover I have set at 80 Hertz for the front two channels. And the center channel and the rears are at 90 when I calibrate the subwoofer on auto xt32 I said it for reference level 75 DB
What is the gain dial on the subwoofer set at? 40%? 60%? What is the AVR subwoofer level set to? In the Setup/Audio/Subwoofer Level menu. Enable adjustment and tell me what the value is. What is the distance setting for the subwoofer? It's in the Setup/Speakers/Manual/Distances menu. If you haven't adjusted it, try adding between 1 and 4 feet to the value determined by Audyssey. Mine sets it as 11.7 feet, and I run it at 15.7 feet. You can also go back and start the Audyssey process, aim for a 82 db target and then back out. No need to run the whole thing. 75 DB is way too soft for my taste.
I need to switch to the Extended mode and run room correction, then give that a little ear time. Also trying to figure out how to cut it up, it won't fit on a single video (4k camera phone only allows 12:55 seconds at a time), but I want to get it shot soon. I know a lot of people are waiting on it, but I still need to check to see whether the advice I plan to give is correct. Also need a new mic. At least another week or 2 out. Sorry for the wait!
Your new mic is far less dynamic... Older mic was much more detailed and reproduces higher frequencies way better... Please go back... I noticed the lack of fidelity almost immediately. How did you miss it? I thought you were a sound guy? I guess technically you're a lower frequency guy. :)
Somehow my av receiver on volume 30 to 35 sound much better and more powerful bass, my av receiver Pioneer vsx-932 have volume from 81min to 1max volume. But 30 to 35 volume is the best! If i will go louder, let say 20 or 15 volume, subwoofers will burn, svs sb2000 and klipsch R-115SW and R-112SW. If i will lower gain on subwoofers, then bass is not so powerful. Better to lower crossover on subwoofers, and gain on maximum, in av receiver sub db on 0 this for me work and house shake from bass, and i feel small wind in room from low bass. Great. More volume on av receiver or sub db level on minus in av receiver not mean better bass, in my case is worst and weaker bass.
Sorry for the late reply 😅 I can DEFINITELY hear them. The guys from SVS heard the motorhome set up and were a little surprised by how much relative bass I was able to squeeze out of their own subwoofers. It sounds nice and thick without being overdone.
Why do you hide your face in your videos? You're a subwoofer guy for crying out loud. It's not like you're ever going to be mobbed in a grocery store for autographs. It actually comes across a little insulting that you insist on hiding behind the camera..... Paranoid much?
There is some paranoia I'm sure, but having fibromyalgia plays a part as well. There are many reasons behind it, and I don't mean to insult my audience. If I have to worry about my appearance, it's one more complication that takes away from what I can produce, which is already pretty limited. I'd do a video every day if I could muster the energy. I even stopped using my lights just to increase my shooting time. Seems ridiculous, but that's the level of limitation I deal with. I value my anonymity, and unlike so many CZcamsrs, I have NO desire to be famous. I don't mind if my ideas are "famous" (lol) but the thought of being recognized is not appealing, which might be different if my health was more predictable. I know, strange choice of occupation, but I enjoy the topic. I have times when I can't understand simple spoken English, and the more interaction I have, the more likely that is to occur. They call it "fibro fog". In your store scenario, I already find myself apologizing to friends and neighbors who don't understand why I was acting odd. My brain "shorts out". Sometimes people are mad at me for long periods of time because they thought it was personal. I find myself explaining why I wasn't acting friendly like usual, almost like I am now with you. Expanding that problem sounds terrible to me, but it's not meant to insult anyone.
I dial in my subwoofers using the Jurassic Park method. I play the movie while slowly increasing the gain until the glass of water on my coffee table starts rippling.
OMG!!! I followed your steps exactly and it sounds awesome. Before, I would run Audyssey and leave it, but it never sounded right. The sub would be anemic, I would bump it's level up in the AV settings, now sub would overpower everything.
By using this method, the sound is now one giant wall of powerful sound!!! Thank you so much.
I also use the "next room" test. I do all the steps here and while I'm testing I hop over to the next room and see if it still sounds good. If the bass is still muted I know to keep increasing. If it doesn't sound and FEEL like Bruce Springsteen is in your living room then keep adjusting.
My onkyo sets the sub to +1 or 3db but never in negative, wondering if thats how onkyo does room calibration
Your headset mic sounds less dynamic than the videocamera mic, like you're in a box.
But it does cut out some of the annoying echo from the room, which by the way, could really use some acoustical treatment.
That would be an interesting topic to cover, like basstraps and so on.
Yeah, I need a dedicated lavalier mic. My camera phone mic just wasn't picking up my voice like I need it to, and I haven't listened to this video on the setup yet. My laptop speakers are a joke, but I figure I need to make sure it's audible on something like that.
Anything I do acoustically needs to be living room friendly. But you have given me a fun idea that I may try in the future. Any thoughts on living room friendly treatments?
Well I know you can get absorbers with a poster printed on them so they double as decoration.
Then we have diffusers, which can look like modern art when mounted. You can also paint them to match the walls.
For something less permanent you can get freestanding absorbers which can be moved out of the way when not in use.
You can also hang absorbers from the ceiling. I believe they are called ceiling clouds to treat the front soundstage.
To make them more appealing you can put LED lightstrips on top of them so they glow with indirect light which gives a nice "theater" look. Even better if its RGB to set the mood with dimmable controls.
So many options, and it CAN look nice if done right :)
+Droidz Hunterz Yeah the poster idea is what I was thinking. Didn't know they existed, don't know who makes them, but I was thinking about something similar with my own designs printed on speaker fabric, with absorbing foam behind it.
All Interesting ideas. Whether I can truly get them to look like they truly belong in a living room is the trick. I have a lot of fun, but I don't want my wife to feel like it's not her living room anymore.
So far, she has no complaints, and I prefer to keep it that way. Who makes those posters?
I found this idea interesting for the eclectic crowd. Seems to be living moss. I'm curious what the actual strain of moss it is. scandiamoss.com/function/
They also have it on Amazon, that's where I found it when searching for acoustic panels. Definitely outside of the box.
Interesting. That would be a fun diy project
When you talk but lowering the subwoofer trim on the receiver, my yamaha rx 2070 has a subwoofer trim adjuster that goes -6db-0-+6db and then I have my subwoofer level adjuster in that goes as low as -10db. Which is the one you refer to even for the hack gain? Thanks
I have a Yamaha too and I'm with you I don't know the difference between the Subwoofer Trim setting and subwoofer dB adjustment setting...
turning up the sub till it Fills in what has been missing is great advice..yes most newbies overdrive the sub so it completely dominates the track instead of complimenting it...they want to "hear and feel " the bass that they have paid for! I know a guy who does same with his surround channels, he thinks he should be hearing them All the time ,like his main speakers! otherwise, he feels they arent working...try to tell him that they Arent suppossed to be loud like the fronts and center and he will agrue the point..soooo , he runs his system with overblown bass and super loud surrounds..."as long as YOU like it bro" thats what matters!
Share this video with him, as well as my "Speaker Level Hack" which uses specific content to properly level your channels even better than room correction: czcams.com/video/cL4IEkSFoiw/video.html
He may want to see the Atmos Hack, even if he doesn't have Atmos, or the "Unlock Your Blu Ray Hack". All too often, people aren't getting the lossless audio because of an annoying default setting in their Blu Ray player, which also screws with how the surround speakers sound. "Unlock your Blu Ray": czcams.com/video/DkHWn2aym8U/video.html
I appreciate the positive feedback!
Thank you, thank you, watched your sub hack, I think I've fixed my rel T7i subwoofer clipping, (very annoying) I've dropped the LFE level from 0.0 to -10, going to watch 4k Ready player one and 4k Alita.
What app/device do you use to listen to music on? My Marantz Bluetooth is garbage. There are tons of cracks in the treble.
Bluetooth in general can be a little sketchy. Range can really be an issue.
I use an Amazon Fire 4K stick, and mostly Tidal or CZcams.
Sometimes I'll use the Spotify or Tidal Apps on the Denon, but the Fire gets the most use. Just a matter of convenience, honestly.
Hi Ryan!
Yesterday, I reran Audyssey, this time with close measurement points as in your video, near our seating area. Our week old SVS PB1000 Pro Subwoofer position is cornered with about 8 inches away from the front left side wall.
Read SVS tutorials from website and our PB1000 Pro sub instructions card. Set -15 on the Subwoofer volume before the Calibration. After completion, the AVR set Subwoofer level at -8.5db.
Finally, I set it at default -10 on the Subwoofer volume and -4.0db on the AVR Subwoofer trim level.
It sounds great and cohesive right off the bat! I would settle for this, unless there's something off that I am not aware about.
Please advise. Thanks 😊
I have 2 subs in a 12*12 room that are basically y’ed together..one is behind the tv maybe 10’ in front on coach,and the other 3’ behind our sitting area..How would I balance these out. Thanks for all your videos..I really enjoy them all! Peace.
I have two klipsch reference 12 inch subs and a set of old klipsch towers that have built in 15inch subs and there sealed units but Iv always keep the Gain and everything at a 7 o'clock seems to be OK
I have a Paradigm PDR-10, I am having a few issues adjusting the crossover on my Yamaha RX-V483. Your advice was mucho helpful moving my tower, Center, and Rear to Small. The Yamaha sets the Crossover to 60 hz. Move it to 80 in the receiver and the Cut-Off on the Sub to 90 hz?
If 90hz crossover is good why not 100? Or even up to 120?
Great video! Not a fan of the sound from the new mic, though.
That's what I was afraid of, thanks for the feedback!
Subwoofer 101 No problem. Also, have you considered using a power conditioner for your equipment? I've seen reviews that say they help improve video/audio quality.
I have one of those Kill O Watt meters, and my power is pretty good to begin with. I may request one for review at some point to give it an honest shot, but it's not at the top of my list at the moment. If my power was wonky, I'd be a lot more interested.
I wonder about the performance increase per dollar spent, my general take is that it's up there with expensive speaker cables for those who already have good power, but I admit I could be misinformed. I certainly haven't thought to myself, "my power sounds dirty", but then you don't know what you don't know.
If any reviews stand out to you, I'd be interested to check them out if you would post a link.
Subwoofer 101 I was only made aware of conditioners when a friend, who has a music studio, came over and I showed off my new PB-2000's and Klipsch system. As soon as he sat down he recommended I get a conditioner. I have everything in a surge protector and figured I'm fine, but recently I've been learning a lot about different brands and benefits of having one. Apparently Furman is the king in this dept. So now I'm saving for one.
As someone who has a power conditioner for my Desktop setup with studio monitors and a second for my home theater set up I don't user power conditioners to improve my audio. I use them as better surge protectors as I don't trust the several thousand dollars of tech to a cheap power strip/surge protector.
I bought my first conditioner to help with audio quality though as at that time I was living in a home with 5v of fluctuation which caused popping sounds on my monitors. New apartment doesn't have that issue but still worth it to me.
Hi friend, I just received a new SB2000 and hooked up to a Yamaha RX-V477. I set the sub gain at half n ran YPAO n resulted having -5db on the avr sw trim. After that I started listening to my usual tracks. I found the bass is a little too light for my preference. By referring to your suggestion, I should crank up the sub gain more by keeping the avr sw trim as it is? Thanks
I used to have a klipsch KSW10 for a few years till it broken down. Therefore I bought the SVS
would like to know how 1 sub tuned to handle 20hz to 45 hz (may be even more) and other handle 45hz to 80hz sound? better??
Check the dog for a heartbeat ? I have a 1993 Denon only for music loud 12in sub and 2x 3ways and vifa center set on 5 channel stereo if that's correct ? lt has a tone button that seems to balance the speakers faster than me but , i don't have video interface just the front panel so how would you set the subwoofer sir ?
1st thing I noticed even before you mentioned it even was that your voice sounded different. Seems a little more "low-fi" but, that said it does seem more clear. Maybe fewer highs fewer lows are ideal for this scenario.
Good feedback, this mic is being replaced.
Agree you need to sort the mic out. I found the voice on this video too waffly and distorted, and with so much fast talking going on, that I wasn't quite catching, I zoned out on the whole point you were trying to get across, sorry. That said, I am not one of the dislikers, I don't go around disliking other peoples efforts, it's just an observation :)
Yeah, i don't really think(gotta compare in everry circumstances , and then you can decide yourself), this recommendation on setting one's AVRs sub gain setting levels to "0" , and then conversely adjusting the actual powered sub(s) levels , will IMPROVE DYNAMICS! ..at least as a blanket result that's always the case..or even usually the case! Relative gain the subs amplifier sees should be basically the same, regardless of he relationship between AVR gain output vs input, and the subs own internal gain from the volume nob. And IF there is a consistently correct setting guideline betwixt the two grains, then its likely a very small relative variable difference im thinking. In fact , especially on THX recommended products, im sure the recommended setup parameters world recommended setting one gain either higher or lower, relatively speaking, if it did indeed matter !!!
If i remember correctly, on a THX subwoofer, there is usually a THX dedicated switch that defeats the gain control all together(assuming maximum sub gain default) , and you must adjust levels (above "0" ) on your AVR pr pre pro from there!.
Although it's been a while since ive used THX equip. Gonna go research.
HOWEVER, regardless, its simply going to come down to comparing, listening, and measuring, to be 100% sure which settings yields the best results. Then nothing matters but the results anyway
The mic seems to pick up less of the room which is good, but it doesn't seem to pick up the higher end frequencies as well as the previous mic; a "boxy" sound like others have described.
Yep. New mic search in progress. Too bad I can't just increase the mic gain, but no such luck.
How much did you turn up the volume on the pb2000 subb and were did you put the volume on the subb in the reciver..?
About 65-70% on the PB-2000's, and about -9.5 on the AVR Subwoofer trim in the "Audio" menu on the Denon.
I have a SVS PB12 subwoofer. I’m wanting dual subwoofers but I can’t seem to find another one like this. I was wondering what you thought might be the best subwoofer that would be comparable so I could pair them together. Thank you
The PB-2000 (original, not the Pro version) is on special right now, that's pretty close. Also check the SVS Outlet, sometimes they have the PB12-NSD in stock.
Or do you have the PB-12 Plus? 1 port or 3?
So long as you order factory direct, you would have a one year trade-in window. I mention that because the PB-2000 Pro's are pretty awesome.
The Pro's true potency would get lost if paired with a PB12-NSD, it's a weird thing that happens. Weaker sub tends to determine the potency. Weakest link kind of thing.
Let me know if that helps!
Subwoofer 101 we’ll the pb-2000 pair up with the pb-12-nsd
1 port
Hi, really enjoy your vids (from the UK). Just a quick question please, Audyssey suggests a 75dB sub match at the start but to me that is far too low. Do you set yours to 75dB to run Audyssey and then go in and up the subs after, or do you run them hot from the start? I've tried it many ways but I prefer to ignore the Audyssey suggestion and run mine at 84dB from the start. Just seems to sound much better, but am I wrong doing this?? Thanks in advance.
His method is this:
1. Run Audyssey
2. Back off Audyssey's sub level to -6 and below.
3. Drop sub volume knob to zero
4. Play some bass heavy music of your liking
5. Slowly raise sub volume on the sub till it sounds right to you
Method worked wonderfully for me.
You mentioned about gain, how about phase? When do you use phase? And how do you use phase effectively? What are phase for? On the other hand, my sub is crossover to 80Hz and all speakers set to small. When do you set to LFE? Thanks.
+Luis Danilo Ancheta Phase is a matter of timing, if two speakers are "in phase", their cones move forward at exactly the same time. If their phase was 180 degrees from one another, or opposite phase, one cone would move forward while the other moved backwards. This is almost impossible to see in real time.
I set the phase to zero and use the distance settings to effectively adjust phase. When you use room correction, it adjusts timing so that everything is "in phase" accounting for different physical distances. (I believe). So all of the sound should hit you at the proper time, more or less.
Bass tends to cancel a little like this, and what I've found for me is that adding about 4 feet to the subwoofer distance works out pretty well. The bass is a little fuller that way, and REW measurements support this.
In short, I leave phase at zero on the subs, and make any timing/phase adjustments using the distance settings in the AVR.
To Manually set Phase correctly (not using room correction such as Audyssey):
- let your speakers play full range (ie: mine play down to 50Hz)
- set crossover on sub to 10Hz above (ie: mine 60Hz)
- Play some music with bass, adjust volume so Sub is noticeable but not too loud
- play the lowest frequency of your speakers (ie: mine 50Hz tone). can download a free tone generator app for phone or computer…)
- use SPL meter ( or smartphone with SPL meter app works). I use settings C-Weighted, Fast, Low on SPL meter)
- cycle through Phase settings (typical 0, 45, 90, 135, 180, 225, 270, 315) and look for the lowest SPL level = Null Point
- if Null Point is 0-180 then add 180 = your Phase setting. if Null Point is 181-359 then subtract 180 = your Phase Setting.
- now you can play with your Crossover settings (ie: Speakers set to 70 Hz, Subwoofer to 80 Hz. etc…)
If Dual subs are both in front like in this video, use this method to setup each subwoofer individually (or just use the same setting). If running one sub on front wall and one sub on rear wall then flip phase 180 degrees from the setting you determined on front sub. (ie: if front sub 135, then rear sub 315)
enjoy !
Where is the sub gain video you mentioned? What is the theory of uping the sub gain and lowering the avr trim. I have to run my denon avr at -11 to get 10 o'clock on my sub gain dial. Do svs recommend the trim down sub gain up idea?
+Stevo19801 That video got deleted. I selected a different video to delete, but that one disappeared instead. I need to upload it again.
But yes, the higher the gain on the subs, the more dynamic they will sound. Ed Mullen and I both agree that so long as your AVR subwoofer trim isn't bottomed out, you should be good. By running a little higher gain on the subs, it's almost like getting a more powerful sub. So long as it's still balanced, I see it as a great adjustment, apartment dwelling aside.
For apartments, I suggest going the other way to reduce bleeding over to neighboring apartments, bringing the AVR trim up and gain on the subs down. In that case, I wouldn't go over 0.0 on the AVR. For apartments, people can still get the depth, but reduce dynamics to keep the peace a little better.
Subwoofer 101 so if I have the trim to -11 on my denon amp and the gain on the sub at 11 o'clock to reach 75db that's fine, as you say I just don't want the trim on the denon at -12 (it's limit). what's is wrong with going to -12 on the amp and turning the sub up to 12 o'clock then?
+Stevo19801 So long as the balance of bass plays well with music and movies, not at thing in the world. When the subs seem intrusive, that's a sign that you might need to back it down. That point is different with everyone.
You can also run the AVR trim a little higher than audyssey to have thicker bass. When I was running dual PB-2000's, I had both subs gain at 65% and the AVR trim at -9.0 or so. Super thick bass with great dynamics, but still not intrusive to my ear. So long as your happy with the sound, that's all that's important.
Room correction never has it as bass heavy as I'd like, and it's ok to color outside of the lines. Especially with subs that have a flat response, you can run the subs heavier with less penalty, where typical shallow subs will be unbearable at certain frequencies if you turn it up too much.
Which subs are you running?
Subwoofer 101 what did you mean by if your avr trim is not bottomed out, -12 on the avr trim would be bottomed out right as it's the lowest it can go
If it's at -12 and it's still too much, it's bottomed out. If it's at -12 and still sounds good, it's not bottomed out.
why arent you doing what your saying in this video?
that would be more helpful to explain whats going on
C815richard This was before I started editing. I agree that some b roll showing what I was doing would help.
I am looking to start upgrading my speakers. i should start with the center. how does the SVS prime center perform, its the one i was looking at?
I was interested in SVS initially for the subwoofers. Without a doubt, their speakers have been a very pleasant surprise. I've emailed back and forth with Smith Freeman, the head design engineer, and he was shooting for a sound that mimicked some very impressive and expensive speakers.
The design of the Prime Center is very good, with high quality crossovers and drivers. It's also built like a tank. I've spent nearly 2 years with this center channel and it has never disappointed me. I believe you will be pleased, most are. It's hard to find fault with them.
If it's not trouble, please follow this link: sub101.link/PrimeCenter
I'm the first ever SVS affiliate, so following this link before buying helps support this channel. I wouldn't steer you wrong though, because returns count against me. The Prime series speakers are super easy for me to recommend.
you should add crash-test-dummies "knight's and maidens". I think it has great dynamic range
That whole album has. 'When I Go Out With Artists' is my reference track.
What mode on the denon is your music played?
+Jason Southwell Either Dolby Digital most of the time, or Stereo. DTS is ok too, but I prefer Dolby. I use the red Music button too, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it really makes.
Have you tested to put one sub behind the sofa or beside and have one still beside the tv..? Does that work Good and calibrate whit the denon..? Or do you need to have Theme both at same distance..?
I do like to have them equidistant, but duals are more flexible. I preferred one on either side, but moved one around the room and it wasn't too bad.
Subwoofer 101 m
Can i put 80hz subwoofer crossover in denon AVR X1400H? Is that right and is it handle ?
LFE to 120Hz
Try a diy sealed subs with a Hypex nCore amp. U will likely leave the branded SVS etc
Totally agree pair subs min 10” per side is min to anyone who starts. The subs in your video looks like a mini fridge
Can't tolerate sealed subs due to a medical condition, which is very unfortunate for me and what I do.
That said, what do you know about the new SVS subwoofer amps?
Have you heard the new Class D design, which is very well thought out for driving subs?
Lastly, the ported subs on my list, including and especially SVS, tend to have more relative output under 40 hertz compared to their sealed counterparts.
This provides a deeper depth of presentation, even if the sealed extend deeper in room.
I did a video called "Going deep versus sounding deep", which explains more, but the ported subs on my list have a deeper sound than the vast majority of subs out there.
This creates its own set of problems, which I talked about in my most recent video.
In short, I don't believe I would abandon the subs on my best subwoofers list.
Class D amplification is the way to go for subs these days, that's for sure.
I evaluated at my home a SB 6000 fir a week vs my Hypex nCore amp with pair 10” sealed peerless XLS subs and miniDSP 2x4hd in music it was far better in some movie scenes SVS was better but I choose pair fir overall price and sheer performance and fexibility
There were many bass effects I couldn’t hear on SVS
Also with your sensitivity towards sealed issue please try dipole OB bass see if u like
My wife couldn’t allow me to buy a mini fridge SVS looking subs
A pair will almost always sound better.
What you are telling me exactly coincides with my Top 6 problems with deep bass. #1 in fact.
SVS doesn't make an SB-6000, so I'm not sure which one you heard, but regardless, ported offer more kick below 40 hertz.
So do you suggest turning up gain first then volume to get in the sweet spot of -10db to -6db? Or would you keep gain at 0 and adjust volume for the sweetspot? I have a rythmik fv15hp. Thanks in advance
Sometimes your AVR has subwoofer level matching in the room correction, shooting for a gain of 75 db. I set mine to 82--83 instead, which should get you there. With a single, you might be pushing the sub to misbehave, another matching sub would really make a difference and be loads better overall. Otherwise, yes, bump the gain first. No matter how you get there, if the AVR trim sounds balanced between -6 and -10 (I'm running -11.5 and it sounds good) you should be in good shape.
the voice was better in your older videos. now it s boxy and slight muffled. Anyway it s inteligibile so that's good 😊
I picked up a new mic that should be a lot better. Today's video was still on this mic, but going forward the mic should sound better.
Are SVS PB 2000's considered "flat?"
That's a very interesting question, with a lot of answers!
For sure, it has a very flat anechoic (& outdoor ground plane) response curve. It's been referred to as ruler flat, which is good.
However, because of room gain, it gets a little louder as it goes deeper.
So in room response is not flat.
But our hearing is funky, because the deeper the bass is, the harder it is to hear.
So, while the answer is yes and no, they sound like they have a very flat response curve in room.
So the short answer is yes, but it's a complicated way of getting there. 😂
@@Subwoofer101 Lol I think I understand. I'm trying to dial it in right now (I've only got one - I'd get two but I was told that if it comes down to one pb16 ultra and two 2000s, to go with the ultra), and I can't seem to get my bass just right (I know there are tons of things that go into bass management).
Funny, I had both a **single** PB-16 Ultra, and dual PB-2000 originals.
Had to wait 4 months for the second PB-16 because they kept selling out.
After days of trying to get them all to work together, and just listening to the single PB-16, I just turned the PB-16 off, in favor of the dual PB-2000's. Crazy, but true.
Once I got the second PB-16 Ultra, I finally understood what the big deal was. Holy TNT batman!
If you're deciding between the PB-16 as a single, I would go with either dual PB-2000 Pro's, or dual PB-3000's.
@@Subwoofer101 Roger that. Thanks!
Hey man....Can you show in your Denon Receiver where you have your settings set to, Because I have the same Receiver?
It was very helpful....Thanks man.....
No problem!
So if my AVR sets my sub to -15 dB (which is the lowest setting), does that mean my sub gain volume is too high? Also can I set the AVR at LFE+main even though I have small front speakers? I like the added bass by the subs when listening in 2.0 channel stereo for music.
I'm curious about this as well. That's what happened after I ran Audyssey. I might have been too generous with the gain (over 3/4 on PB-1000). I'm going to dial it back and try again.
Sounds like your sub gain is too high on the unit. You want your AVR level somewhere around -6.0 db. Turn the gain down and repeat the process until it sounds really good at around -6.0dB. That level still gives you a ton of headroom. At -15 it probably sounds boomy
@@TheAboriginal1 yeah I fixed this about 3 years ago after a long school of hard audio knocks. lol. I appreciate your input though thanks 😎👍.
lovely stuff
Thank you!
Check out some of the Home Free songs for a sub check.
All acapella group, the bass singer Tim Foust, damn, that man can get LOW!
Just a thought, would LOVE to hear your thoughts after playing some of their songs on your system.
/cheers!
I'm checking them out, always appreciate new music tips.
great video really enjoyed it
Thanks!
Have you ever done any sound proofing to your play area?
Nothing extreme. Carpet on the floor and textiles. Because it's mixed use, I need to keep it living room friendly. Egg crates on the walls and giant bass traps are pretty much non starters. Just the carpet on the floor makes a big difference though.
Got ya. Thx for the quick reply.
That's ok. Egg crates don't work anyway. You should build some absorption panels using OC703 or equivalent and wrap them with printed art on canvas though. That will not only look appealing to the wife and family, but also be porous enough in relation to sound waves, allowing the 703 to soak up those reflections. Gotta be quite thick to be used as bass traps, but for about $150 you can make around 6 of them and stick them at the first/second reflection points or behind your listening position for an ENORMOUS difference in reflected sound.
loving the setup
do they still make svs sb12nsd?
They do, but they don't sell them directly except for special occasions. You can get them on Amazon: amzn.to/2uvUB7A (affiliate link)
Sometimes you can find them in the SVS outlet store:
bit.ly/OutletSVS (affiliate link)
I noticed the new mic right away. Much better IMO. Good vid.
Thanks, my voice was louder, but "boxy" has been a common theme. I just need a legit mic. Gotta get it sorted out.
Old video but i hope u see this. When u set the subs by ear, do you have dyn eq On or do you put that on later?
Dynamic EQ on. Essentially, however you plan to listen, adjust in that configuration.
@@Subwoofer101 hey dude I have a question I just got another sub I have 2 soundstage LF300 12 inch subs they are 300watts
Anyways I have my crossover on my receiver set at 90hz and on my sub they are set at like 80 I’d say it sounds good but I want more soft like blending I guess.
Do you set the crossover high on receiver and lower on subs ? I know a little bit about home Audio but kinda need some help on setting crossover
A sub that runs flat in an open field is going to run peaky in everyones living room 🔊🤔
Subwoofers will have room gain when indoors vs outdoors, for sure.
That doesn't mean it's a bad thing. A subwoofer that gets a little louder as it goes deeper is ideal in my opinion, which is where the room gain comes in, the deep end.
Of course there's too much of a good thing, but that's why I recommend the subs that I do. The balance of bass is measurably good.
@@Subwoofer101 I also have dual svs subs👍
thanks
No problem.
I'm having a hard time dialing in my subwoofer to my home theater system I don't know if it's too powerful or what but I can't get it to blend the last time I had it was a PSP and it Blended in perfectly this new one I'm having a hard time any suggestions? I've tried everything
Stephanie Rodriguez Tell me what you are working with.
AVR model?
Subwoofer(s)?
Gain setting on the subwoofer?
Subwoofer Level setting on the AVR?
Crossover settings in the AVR?
Have you run room correction?
Distance value on the subwoofer in the AVR?
Which speakers do you have?
Be sure all speakers are set to Small, not large.
A Denon AVR 3400h elac F6 Towers with the center channel and the b4s as surrounds I 5.1 right now and a 10 inch Monoprice monolith Ultra 2 as a subwoofer
Crossover I have set at 80 Hertz for the front two channels. And the center channel and the rears are at 90 when I calibrate the subwoofer on auto xt32 I said it for reference level 75 DB
What is the gain dial on the subwoofer set at? 40%? 60%?
What is the AVR subwoofer level set to? In the Setup/Audio/Subwoofer Level menu. Enable adjustment and tell me what the value is.
What is the distance setting for the subwoofer? It's in the Setup/Speakers/Manual/Distances menu. If you haven't adjusted it, try adding between 1 and 4 feet to the value determined by Audyssey. Mine sets it as 11.7 feet, and I run it at 15.7 feet.
You can also go back and start the Audyssey process, aim for a 82 db target and then back out. No need to run the whole thing. 75 DB is way too soft for my taste.
It's at the 12 position 50% and the level is at -3
great stuff 101
Thanks!
When do you think you'll do a PB16 review?
I need to switch to the Extended mode and run room correction, then give that a little ear time. Also trying to figure out how to cut it up, it won't fit on a single video (4k camera phone only allows 12:55 seconds at a time), but I want to get it shot soon. I know a lot of people are waiting on it, but I still need to check to see whether the advice I plan to give is correct. Also need a new mic. At least another week or 2 out. Sorry for the wait!
So you're reading from a web page?
Try "Invincible" or "Pneuma" by Tool for a good bass reference
That's how I started my day today :)
Your new mic is far less dynamic... Older mic was much more detailed and reproduces higher frequencies way better... Please go back... I noticed the lack of fidelity almost immediately. How did you miss it? I thought you were a sound guy? I guess technically you're a lower frequency guy. :)
Nice Kitty
Marantz does not have sub trim
"Subwoofer Trim" is pretty much a slang term for "Subwoofer Level"
Mario Duncan yes it does
When are we going to get new videos theses are all old
Go to my CZcams channel, you can see the latest there.
WOW. It's the only system where the subs are bigger than the front towers.
I love it.
The PB16s look large and ugly. But, otherwise useful vid. Thanks.
Somehow my av receiver on volume 30 to 35 sound much better and more powerful bass, my av receiver Pioneer vsx-932 have volume from 81min to 1max volume. But 30 to 35 volume is the best! If i will go louder, let say 20 or 15 volume, subwoofers will burn, svs sb2000 and klipsch R-115SW and R-112SW. If i will lower gain on subwoofers, then bass is not so powerful. Better to lower crossover on subwoofers, and gain on maximum, in av receiver sub db on 0
this for me work and house shake from bass, and i feel small wind in room from low bass. Great.
More volume on av receiver or sub db level on minus in av receiver not mean better bass, in my case is worst and weaker bass.
Try Travis Scott...The Plan
can u tell us more about the subs you have?
Every subwoofer I've reviewed is here: www.subwoofer101.com/best-subwoofers/
Let me know if you have specific questions.
I thought you were going to play a tune? Nice setup.
If you really want to test!!! your subwoofer play a track called Coca-Cola by Gucci Mane hands down the best for bass
Great one, and new to me! Try "Poor Fool" from 2 Chains, pretty good too!
Good! Try “Sail “ by Awolnation too!
i dont really like the sound of this new mic.. its like you are in a box..
+Norberto Castro That's what I keep hearing. Thanks for the feedback!
9th wonder - daddysrevenge
Hate the new mic
Seems to be the consensus, thanks for the feedback.
Sealed subwoofers are weak and not loud, waste of time, especiall if you have large room.
Amen to that
So basically you have big powerful subs that you can barely hear.
Sorry for the late reply 😅
I can DEFINITELY hear them. The guys from SVS heard the motorhome set up and were a little surprised by how much relative bass I was able to squeeze out of their own subwoofers.
It sounds nice and thick without being overdone.
Why do you hide your face in your videos? You're a subwoofer guy for crying out loud. It's not like you're ever going to be mobbed in a grocery store for autographs. It actually comes across a little insulting that you insist on hiding behind the camera..... Paranoid much?
There is some paranoia I'm sure, but having fibromyalgia plays a part as well.
There are many reasons behind it, and I don't mean to insult my audience.
If I have to worry about my appearance, it's one more complication that takes away from what I can produce, which is already pretty limited. I'd do a video every day if I could muster the energy.
I even stopped using my lights just to increase my shooting time. Seems ridiculous, but that's the level of limitation I deal with.
I value my anonymity, and unlike so many CZcamsrs, I have NO desire to be famous. I don't mind if my ideas are "famous" (lol) but the thought of being recognized is not appealing, which might be different if my health was more predictable.
I know, strange choice of occupation, but I enjoy the topic. I have times when I can't understand simple spoken English, and the more interaction I have, the more likely that is to occur. They call it "fibro fog".
In your store scenario, I already find myself apologizing to friends and neighbors who don't understand why I was acting odd. My brain "shorts out".
Sometimes people are mad at me for long periods of time because they thought it was personal. I find myself explaining why I wasn't acting friendly like usual, almost like I am now with you.
Expanding that problem sounds terrible to me, but it's not meant to insult anyone.
Randy Levine what? Shouldnt you be grateful to all this free good content instead of focusing on If someone is front or behind the camera?
Subwoofer 101 u dont insult me at all. Really good and informative content, keep it up!
I appreciate that Carl, and I value your support!