10 Final Fantasy Characters Nobody EVER Used
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I appreciate Jess just being upfront, saying she's a new fan and just learned some of these characters. Respect
No doubt, lots of people, when asked, like to pretend they've been fans since the beginning, to their own detriment. We don't care how long you've been a fan for, just that you're a fan. And honestly, I'd rather you be honest, because then I get to geek out on how phenomenal some of those old games are. And then maybe you go off and play it, and we get to compare notes.
Yeah I get your point, but becoming a new fan, with her job and the tsunami of spoiler that comes with it, is no easy task. I wish her all the best because a lot of these games deserve a playthrough or 6
@Midragor yeah FF has a huge dedicated fanbase, so she won points in my book by being honest.
She doesn't write most of the videos she does. You can see who the writer is at the end of the video. Not dissing her at all, she's done some of her own stuff.
Truth, Jess is great
Irvine is literally one of the strongest characters in the game lol. Fast ammo after using doom train kills 90 percent of the game in one cycle
Oh no... they didn't tell her about Irvines Cheap speed ammo technique
Squall with Lionheart, Irvine with Quick Shot and Zell with his infinite Top Punch/Feint combo make Omega Weapon a joke.
i was gonna comment on that. junction him right and use fast ammo and he turns enemies to swiss cheese
Thank christ someone said it. When I saw the thumbnail I knew no one at whatculture has played FF8 long enough to have seen how broken Irvine is.
And nobody had watched a speedrun. XD
Back in the day,i didnt know of (or just dont remember) using that method, but having the AP rounds shooting max damage early in the game stuck to me.
Amarant from _Final Fantasy IX_ is one of my mains when I go back for replays, despite being such a late-comer.
Kimahri sad, but Kimahri remain strong.
Kimahri remain on bench.
Ehhh....not that strong.
Lmao! Only true players know kimahri thief before Rikku is OP. Even after Rikku, a second thief is godly while building the party up.
Kimhari think Jess should be Jess.
Hornless!
Kimahri is one of those JRPG party members that rewards the player for knowing the "ins-and-outs" of the game (kinda like most other Blue Mages in the series). If you put Kimahri through Wakka's sphere grid, he gets a ton of HP, Attack, Accuracy, and surprisingly a lot of Magic Attack as well. A couple of Kimahri's Overdrives scale off of Attack (Jump and Seed Cannon for example) while others scale off of Magic (Fire/Aqua Breath), so having a mixture of both is best for Kimahri specifically. Wakka and Lulu's paths on the Sphere Grid are also close to each other so Kimahri can easily switch over from Wakka's path to Lulu's path with the right Key Sphere. Using a Special Sphere to teach him Steal/Use OR a Skill Sphere to give him Mug is also a great idea to allow him to steal from Yenke and Biran to get some Lvl 3 Key Spheres (which are a pain to get without a lot of grinding).
BUT all of that is only if you know how to use Kimahri. On my first playthrough I put Kimahri through Tidus' path on the Sphere Grid and had a lesser Tidus with underwhelming Overdrives (his Magic was weak so Fire/Aqua Breath were on the weaker side, other Overdrives were still good though). Kimahri is definitely the hardest character to use to their fullest but he's a beast if you put a lot of effort into him and that's his main problem compared to the rest of the cast. The rest of the party each has a defined role in combat as well as enemies that they hard-counter easily, making them very straight-forward (maybe even a little too easy to use in the beginning), while Kimahri doesn't have that luxury, making it VERY easy to neglect and leave him on the bench since he's so dang anti-optimal. The player needs to WORK to make Kimahri shine while the other party members need little to no investment.
Kimahri only really has a role in the early game as the tank because you don’t have Auron and Kimahri’s weapon has Piercing on it. First run I did I sent him down Lulus path so he just became a less effective magic user while the second run I sent him down Auron’s path. He still didn’t fair that much better to be perfectly honest. He was my least used character, well he and Rikku. I’ll also just point out even though it’s not relevant to Kimahri, but teaching Tidus, Wakka or especially Auron Mug is so useful.
I'm a serial FFX player. And it is in fact stated on many many comments sections as my favourite (offline) game of all time. I've definitely done play-throughs where I've kept Kimahri in at all times that he's available just for the laugh of it. But he's also definitely my least used FFX character overall over the years. Probably because I like the girly characters.. so sue me lol
@@KegOfMeat I like to slap Mug on Wakka cuz of his high attack and accuracy.
@@frankbrodie5168 understandable, I think he's everybody's least used. Also Yuna, Lulu, and Rikku are great, no suing necessary.
@@KegOfMeat Teaching Kimahri Mug or Steal is actually usefull, cause Biran and Yenke are the earliest source of LV3 Key Sphere, with Master Thief to Kimahri so that he can steal 2 LV3 Key Sphere per steal, you can get enough LV3 Key Sphere for the rest of the game just from that fight alone.
Irvine slander is crazy and not tolerated
They're insane... they need to go and play FF VIII again.
I'm definitely a Cait Sith defender. Don't tell me sh*t about his stats or battle strategy...He's a Cat riding a giant Moog in a little Cape. I'm sold!
I always put him in my party, one of the weirdest characters controlled remotely by Reeve.
@@josesavantsame. Once he became available he never left my party.
Cait sith is a great character. His dice or slot limit break can be great.
The fact that they kept using Rebirth Cait Sith while talking about OG Cait Sith really took me out of it. Rebirth Cait Sith is actually good if a little esoteric.
Agree
I’m team Kimahri on FFX. My boy is essentially a blue mage and is great to slip in at times.
Love me some Kimahri!
Kimahri is a character that really snowballs, if you keep him in the party and get as many blue mage spells as possible he easily becomes the best party memeber, he is not the best at any 1 thing, but he is the second best at everything once you get all the spells
Hell I used him as more of a tank/damager and he was a beast at that.
With the HD re-release of FFX and the subsequent improvement to the sphere grid, he's a great character! But you have the admit, in the OG version his spot on the sphere grid really set him back.
@@SeanSpencerNekoEspirito Not really, used properly he can go to Rikku's grid allowing to get Steal and Use long before she joins, and then you can wait and once you get a LV2 Key Sphere, you can send to Yuna's path and grab Holy long before Yuna gets it, by this point he will be your strongest character, you can also go the other through Wakka and then Lulu's path and this allow him to grab the -aga tier spells long before Lulu.
Who tf doesn't use Irvine? LoL.
When he is maxed out, he is absolutely BROKEN, doin max damage to every enemy on the screen with deadly precision.
Like to where I can remember having everyone else lay on the ground and Irvine just carry them through the final 4 fights of the game.
Irvine is always in my party due to his limit break. AP ammo destroys enemies while Dark Ammo can cripple enemies! It's like an early doomtrain.
Indeed. He was crucial to me for defeating King Tomberry early
Basically never used him in either the OG game for PS1 or for the Remaster. All the content was easy enough to clear without him, and mr cowboy just wasn't a character I liked, lol.
Whoever wrote this part of the script obviously didn’t pay attention to the storyline. He’s the outsider that is the only one that remembers their childhood, and his personality is often a reflection of that. Without him, we would t have had the connection between the GFs and the memory loss.
And with max Str and Luck his Fast Ammo, is the most damaging of his limit break, on top of having really fast animations unlike Zell.
I like to change Amarant's name to Queen. That way his tagline becomes, "I am the flaming Queen!"
Irvine definitely does not belong on this list. Most places i go where people discuss ff8, he is usually mentioned as part of the team. And pulse ammo is hardly ever used for him. By the end of the game, normal ammo hits just as hard and it isnt even the best option.
Kimarhi is actually extremely useful in the HD remaster
Ah Irvine... My party in FF8 was always Squall. Zell and Rinoa... Unless the game forced other characters.
I always used Squall, Rinoa, and Quistis. If I couldn’t use any of them for any reason, I would use Zell.
Mine is Squall, Rinoa and Irvine.
I used Irvine instead of Zell, I don’t want no damn Chicken Wuss in my party!
Honestly the FF8 answer should have been Selphie, you use her a lot early on when you have no choice but unless you are trying to cheese a fight with The End she doesn’t get a look in after the mid point.
Honestly though, FF8 does a good job of use all characters.
I loved using Umaro. Putting him in a party with strong magic users and casting berserk as you ascended the Cultist Tower worked for me very well
The Cultist Tower is on place where he really shines, since you don't have to worry about all the enemies with permanent Reflect with him, and most of them have terrible defense.
Honestly, FF6 is so easy to break open that having one guy constantly on auto-attack isn't all that detrimental. Cyan's Sword Tech, on the other hand, usually feels like a complete waste of time charging to the higher levels because it always feels like you could be having other characters do other things.
Oh man, I always use Irvine when I play FF8 along with Zell, although it's honestly mostly cuz I like their limits
As a matter of fact, Zell and Irvine have the most broken limits, you can do a ridiculous amount of damage if you know what you're doing.
@@BlanckOne especially AP Ammo is so easy to manufacture and absolutely broken if you just steal the materials
@@BlanckOne on I know! That's why I always use them! The amount of damage you can do with Zell's limit makes him the biggest damage dealer by far.
Dream team right there.
@@Collin255 When I realized how easy it was to just keep going on and on with Zell's limit, he was a guaranteed no-drop from my team.
Irvine is the most egregious inclusion on this list. His AP ammo shot is OP AF, and endlessly available by modding Tonberry Cards or Sharp Spikes.
Am i the only one who used Amarant in IX? He is a big strong dps if you didnt grind the 9999k damage cap with other characters. I didnt used throw stuff and gil cause money for dupes weapons and armour for synthesis. I also used red mage in I, they are cool and best balanced job in FF series
I use him too. I love his Elan skills especially Chakra
I used Umaro when I was younger, but as I got older and better learned the battle system (and RPG mechanics in general) I quickly learned that his overall damage output was lacking terribly compared to literally any other character when it came down to it, particularly if you are a fan of min maxing specific character stats long before Umaro becomes available (a feat that is even easier in the Pixel Remaster).
I liked the Red Mage in FF1 and would sometimes swap a White Mage for a Red Mage.
White mage helps in the middle of the game, as you can survive a few of the more challenging fights easier with white mage than a red(especially if you tackle the bonus dungeon content on a lower lvl.), but later on you can produce such a offensive team that healing because far less useful, and you then have a character with low damage compared to rest just kinda is there. Red mage gets the legendary Lightbringer in the remake, which allows them to cast holy for free every fight. No other class can wield it.
I usually go warrior, white mage, black mage, & red mage (sometimes swap with thief & very rarely monk). Red is versatile with both white & black spells giving good support & being able to use swords makes him good melee when the spells are used up
Max props getting into the FF universe, Jess. I got into it in ‘02 when an ex loaned me a chipped PS1 and some games. Including FF7 & FF8. (8 the best in the series).
Just started the video, and I gotta say if people don't use Quina in FF9, they've failed. Period. Homies Blue Magic is OP as hell.
I can understand why a new player would not use Irvine, but he is easily a top three character for the difficult end game challenges. AP bullet limit breaks deal insane damage.
Kimahri was designed to be a "second" option. You want a second mage? A second healer? Second armor breaker? etc.
Yes! This! I would always use khimari as my backup white mage for when Yuna left the party during the Bevelle events, including that damned
Evrae fight.
To be fair, they acknowledged that but also said, you basically always have access to a better version of him. Personally, I always sent him down Wakka and then Auron's path. Making him a decent damage dealer and taking advantage of how most of his weapons have piercing.
Oh, I thought the Cait Sith entry was going to touch on the subject that his limit break can party wipe you but I guess having only two limits is the extent of his awfulness in Jess's eyes.
I was expecting this. When I learned that Slots has a "Party End" option I went "I'm never using this piece of crap. Ever."
Red mages are great, especially in the remake of Final Fantasy 1. You can do a solo red mage run while the rest of your party takes a dirt nap, then upon promotion give your team the best lvl ups they can get.(They get the same lvl ups as both classes, and can survive the game solo just fine.) Red Mage gets the Lightbringer, a powerful sword that can spam holy. Outside of a few bonus dungeon challenges, a red mage can heal more than well enough to keep the party alive. At the end of the game your team can be so brutally offensive with a Knight, Ninja, Black Wizard you won't get hit enough care about healing. The red mage/wizard brings more to the table than a whitemage/wizard does. If everything is dead, you don't need heal anyone.
in ff8 the least used character would probably be Selphie.
Yes, she does have "The End", which literally ends the current phase of the fight.
But it's tedious to "Do Over" until you get it.
Quistis will probably be used extensively for farming purposes (Initiative+Degenerator).
And Zell, Squall, Irvine and Rinoa are all capable of big damage.
So in the end, there is really no reason to use Selphie.
While i love ff8, game is really unbalanced. But there are mods out there that overhaul the whole battle system.
If you like ff8 it's worth looking into them.
In ff8 Irvine is a beast at high STR.
Cast meltdown on a boss, aura on Irvine, and use his fast ammo limit spam right out of the gate, OP.
And you basically have an infinite supply of the good ammos thanks to Ifrits ammo refining of basic items. Pulse ammo is far too slow and time limited to be any good. Plus Squall needs to be on low Hp %, and ko'd allies to have a decent chance of using Lionheart via renzokouken, risky.
Basically, Irvine is a minimal fuss, maximum damage, safe powerhouse.
Ff8 is so much more fun on repeat plays.
Irvine also has retroactive character development when you realise he choked when sniping Edea because he was the only one who knew her real identity.
Its also fun to spam R1 wildly like pulling the trigger yourself, something they brought back for the gunner dressphere in ffX-2.
I actually love Umaro especially when speed leveling on fast forward; you can get his physicals up to scoring 9999s with the Rage Ring which is a nice alt to avoid the game regressing into an Ultima spamming army lol
Just equip atma weapons and offerings, kill everything in a barrage attack. This creams even the bonus dungeon bosses in the remake.
I can appreciate that she’s upfront about being a new fan, but then why have her do this when she’s just reading what’s been given to her, so she doesn’t actually have an opinion on these characters
I used that dude in final fantasy 10 because he reminded me of panthor from thundercats
Snow I actually found quite useful. As well as having the highest HP, which made him a great Sentinel, he also had very high strength, which I found useful in high attack paradigms.
Using the wrong shot for Irvine and you can get Pulse shot as early as Disc 1. Irvine is one of the top strongest characters in the game, rivaling Zell, Rinoa, and Squall.
I actually remember using Kimahri quite a bit while playing Final Fantasy X. Yes, he's the jack-of-all-trades character in a game where you can swap them all in and out of the front line, but FFX compensated for this, and the return of turn-based mechanics, with a heavy focus on strategy and planning. Even normal encounters could go south fast if you played lazy or careless, and a lot of the boss battles required the player to get incredibly creative with how they used their abilities.
Which is why I always appreciated having that jack-of-all trades character, not just who could use piercing attacks and learn steal long before Auron and Rikku joined the party, but who could quickly jump in with any other of my must-have abilities if the corresponding specialist suddenly became compromised.
Remember that blob thing you had to fight to start unlocking Auron's limit breaks? The one that was resilient to physical damage AND could absorb magic attacks? If Kimahri couldn't cast haste and didn't have a second piercing weapon, that's where the game would have ended for me.
I love that we are talking OG FFVII, but showing graphics from FFVIIR. :)
Machina is less liked than the flute lady? Really?! Damn, double swords is losing to the girl with the recorder.
Machina's best trait is his damage, the problem is that he's in Type-0 a game where damage is one of the most easily exploitative things, any of the spells is probably going to out-damage him from a way safer and spammable range with a single to a few upgrades.
Also, fun fact: Deuce (Aka Flute girl) is one of the best mages in the game because of her stats, weapon options that boost magic and recovery animations.
Fun fact part 2: Deuce is also proof of how broken Type-0 is, while most of the cast do either cutting, blunt or some kind of elemental damage she uses "music" as an attack so it's actually classified as typeless so it bypasses all physical defense and magical resistance formulas to do True Damage, while most of the cast needs a dedicated skill to attack a wide area she can just do a 360° range "malee" attack and her normal auto attacks have homing so you literally can just walk into a room and not even look at where the enemies are, the game is incredibly unbalanced.
@@julioc.3158 I can't help but laugh about the absurdity of what you're saying. Thank you for this comprehensive breakdown. I truly appreciate it.
If anything, I'd say the Thief is the most useless in FF1. Red Mage at least makes a good secondary fighter, but Thief, at least until he gets upgraded to ninja, spends most of the game having to be revived, and considering dead characters don't get experience, and, in the original version, you couldn't revive someone in the middle of a dungeon, picking Thief for the party was basically an unofficial hard mode.
Now, in FF3, the Red Mage is legitimately worthless, because there's no real upgrade. Red Mage is the only true hybrid in the game of physical and magical, so switching to any later class, especially endgame, means sacrificing one of these utilities.
As someone who got started with the original FF1 on an original Nintendo, yes, keeping the Thief alive long enough to get upgraded was always a challenge (without excessive grinding, anyway). The Ninja upgrade is pretty sweet though (or at least, that's what I thought until I figured out how broken the Black Belt and Master really were).
I hated hope....
Ahhh.. a kindred soul. He really just seemed to be annoying and whiny to me.
I would also be like him or worse if i saw my mom killed in something she was put up to and thought someone was responsible and was going around calling himself a "hero". Yeah. I'd be mopey and petulant too probably
@CrazeeAdam he was mopey and petulant before that
@@CrazeeAdam Just because his attitude is understandable doesn't mean it isn't annoying.
I appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning. Thanks Jess!!
I used both Machina and Snow is basically every circumstance. Machina mainly because I liked his weapons, and Snow because I liked his personality.
Snow has personality?
Squall, Selphie and Irvine were always my go to team in FF8. The relationship that builds between Selphie and Irvine is one of the games highlights.
Khimari suffers from sharing the heavy Amour breaking niche with Auron. FFX does a great job giving every character a reason to swap into battle to get xp but Auron cooly shoves Khimari into the corner.
Cait Sith doesn't stand a chance, Even in Rebirth where he's written better. He's competing with significantly more popular characters. Yuffie's glow up is crazy she's so fun to have around and her gameplay is *Chef's kiss*.
Jess I criticized your pronunciation of a character name one time and I apologize for that. Bad show on my part. You’re a great presenter and you did a bang up job on this list.
Irvine was a unique character in FF8 because he was the only one not to get GF mind wiped. So story wise that kind of elevates him above the other side characters as he is the one that helps the others remember their past relationships. His limit break has one of the best damage outputs, the ammo isn't that hard to get, you don't need to use pulse ammo, the AP and fast ammo will still shred. That being said, it didn't really matter because none of the fights in ff8 are that hard even if you play with completely suboptimal strategies and builds. The only reason not to use him is if he didn't pass your vibe check, and that's perfectly fine, but he was in most people's min/max builds.
Are you kidding me? That dog saved my ass in the final boss fight in final fantasy 8.
I appreciate Irvine. He is the only playable character in the franchise to use a literal shotgun.
Kimahri is most useful when you're fighting the higher tier random encounters (the ones that don't go down in one hit depending on who you're using). he's stronger than tidus, and faster than auron or lulu, making him optimal support in either damage dealing or emergency defense. in general, any time you need to bring out yuna, kimahri will usually be useful too. his strength boost also makes him incredibly useful in the seymour flux fight as well.
Great job Jess! I hope you’re enjoying Final Fantasy
I can’t believe Irvine is on this list… his ammo ability was so helpful in my Remaster playthrough. Yes I did get this strongest Ammo but I found that his other ammo’s did a lot of damage as well, so I didn’t always have to use AP Ammo (I think that’s the name).
I use Irvine over Zell. Fight me 😂
Irvine is a beast. It might be an unpopular opinion, but Snow was a staple in my party. His high HP and Sovereign First were clutch when it came to farming Adamantoise
Gonna be honest... I actually think all the characters in _Final Fantasy VIII_ are super useful...
-Squall is a powerhouse, especially if you can boost his strength stats early on.
-Rinoa is a nice balanced character with good counter-attack potential.
-It's really not *that* hard to get Irvine's best ammos, so he can be quite useful.
-Quistis is great if you can teach her the best limit-break spells.
-Selphie's slots are annoying but can be invaluable.
-Zell's limit breaks are very exploitable if you are able to memorize the combinations and patterns.
It also doesn't hurt that the Junction system can really make all the characters basically equal. I know people like to complain about the fact the systems are easy to exploit and the enemies scale with the characters... but I actually really like that because you can basically customize the game as you see fit. Want to have a breezy playthrough where you can just appreciate the story? Break the game by exploiting junctions and abilities. Want a challenge? Purposely handicap yourself by limiting those things.
so i guess nobody at whatculture tried using Rinoa's Angel wing limit break when she only has meteor magic in her inventory
I would definitely note that we saw the job system come back in FFXII, specifically the Zodiac Job System version that is the one used for all versions of XII beyond the vanilla release.
Strategy wise, the most balanced party setup for the late game sections of Final Fantasy XIII is Lightning, Hope and Fang. Fang is a much better Sentinel than Snow is and has the added bonus of being a saboteur on top of it. Meanwhile Hope is a better synergist than Sahz with access to better abilities. And Lightning makes the overall best ravager due to her AOE attacks
I absolutely love using Meliadoul in Tactics. It's easy to dismiss both her and Agrias when Orlandu is right there, but you have to remember that he's completely busted as a character. I won't even run him in my team anymore when I do a FFT playthrough, which is often as it's one of my favorite games of all time.
The turning point was in War of the Lions, where her Sword arts were changed to still do damage to monsters and humans with safeguard equipped. In the original PS1 release it would do no damage if there wasn't a piece of equipment in the targeted slot, which was crippling for her. Post WoTL she's perfectly capable offensively across the spectrum of enemies, just specifically deadly against non-safeguarded humans.
What I really want is a version of Tactics where Gaffgarion becomes recruitable. I always loved him as a character in design and in personality, so it always felt bad having to take him out. It would be cool to have a male Holy Knight that didn't feel as busted as Orlandu that could also utilize the exclusive bard abilities too.
Really the biggest problem is that she joins so late in the game. I think almost every other character, except Byblos, is available before her.
Kimahri kinda could be a extra thief level 3 key sphere are hard to come by
Regarding Kimahri, I usually send him straight to Rikku to learn steal, then wait at the level 3 lock near holy until I get a level 3 key. This keeps him useful until post-game level up. But he's probably the least useful of the 7.
I always prefer Amarant to Quina. I only use Quina for millionare when grinding money for end game equipment
If you spend more than the time required to finish only the main story and know the game and how and were to get items from to make the ammo Irvine of FF8 can literally out-damage any character other than Squall reliably. He has been in my main party in almost all of my playthroughs and Ive played it dozens of times through. Use the right ammo and you can ruin your enemies at pretty much any stage of the game.
In the original version of FF1, the intelligence stat was bugged, so never featured into calculations. If you were ok without those late-game spells that are exclusive to the other mages, Red was just a solid pick to go with, because he had great equipment and was versatile. Not to mention, who picked Thief? That class was worthless.
I missed this video the other day, but I just wanted to praise you for including FF Tactics. Meliadoul was sadly outshined before her acquisition, but she has more reliable damage potential than Rafa and Marak(or however you want to spell their names) so they get the boot from me.
That one caveat aside, I do mostly agree with this list. with the top pick being a sad tale of under development on Square's side. That said, they were also the only character who had the chance to cause an automatic win/loss with their limit break, so it was certainly a gamble.
I do have plenty of disagreements here.
Irvine: Really glad so many of the comments are in support of King Horny and his machine gun limit. God the quick ammo shreds, especially with Meltdown.
Snow: I agree-ish. He's not great, but his role is primarily as a tank. He's there to be on the Frontline and get clapped.
Kimahri: Not the best in battle if he stays on his own grid (I recommend taking him down Lulu and Yuna's grids, stopping by to get Steal from Rikku's.) Plus he's just a really good guy. He didn't have to stay with Yuna, but he did. He has his fun moments, and while his personal story is short, you still learn about him. Plus, even though he can only use it as an Overdrive, I friggin love Blue Mages.
Red Mage/Wizard: While it doesn't get the highest level of White or Black magic, and can't learn some at all, it still fills several rolls. A mix of melee and magic works really well, offering Frontline damage if you want to save mp, and a mix of healing/support/elemental damage. And pronunciation of Bahamut makes me sad.
Meliadoul: Just because she is eclipsed by the three-in-one Orlandu, she is still amazing and should be used, especially in harder battles. If one person having all three sword skill classes is amazing, the doesn't mean the ones that use a single class is terrible. If anything, Marach is inferior to so many. If anyone begs to differ about Marach, please comment.
Porom: In the GBA/PSP remakes, she does have her uses over Rosa. Especially in agility. If anything, Cid is the worst. He hits hard, fine, but his ability is even more useless than Edge's Steal. Even Tellah is mediocre. He has all the magic. Shame he can't use his best without MP increasing items. Though, while it sucks, Tellah's stats decreasing as he levels up is a nice touch to show his increasing age as the story progresses... Aside from his magic, he also gave us the very memable 'Spoony Bard' line.
Cait Sith: The footage is from Rebirth, yet it sounds like she's talking about og FFVII. His Slots are decent if you know how to manipulate it, especially with Lucky Girl's critical boosting, and Mog Dance being a free Mega Elixir. I wouldn't be surprised if WhatCulture got their info mixed up (again,) like when they talked about Cloud's Buster Sword from og FFVII being amazing yet showing footage or Remake.
As for the others that do kinda suck butt...
Umaro: She was mostly on the money. He can use relics, and has one only he can use in the Blizzard Orb. All it does is give him an AoE ice attack instead of single target melee, but... no. He's not a mage by any means.
Amarant: He's not great, and he has almost no plot or development at all. I'd say he's as pointless as Quina, but as I said earlier, I'm biased toward Blue Mages (even if Quina's White Wind is the absolute worse in the series. Sorry for the tangent.)
If anyone would like to argue with my opinions, please comment. I'm always curious to other people's opinions.
Love all of you beautiful people. Hope you have a nice day~ 💙
I was half expecting Hope to be the FFXIII character xD
cait sith is a beast in rebirth
Yeah, he's got some great skills but he also has a bit of a learning curve and some luck-based skills. That being said, he is certainly not a slouch in Rebirth.
Im not sure, but whoever wrote this, i get the feeling he never really played with Irvine from FF8 or never liked Tripple Triad. His armor piercing roungs dealt easlily 9999 dmg, so his limit break was quite good and you could get the mats for the ammo from cards or mobs.
Kimahri can get in Rikku's sphere grid section well before you get her if you're willing to play some blitzball. Plus he can also easily replace Lulu if you choose to make him a mage who isnt going to have worthless physical stats.
In the original FF7 Cait Sith is useful for one task only, and to do that you need to level him up to lvl 90+
He has the highest possible success rate to use manipulate materia, which can be used to learn enemy skill.
Snow was crappy not because he was melee, but because he was written to be useless/
Irvine is actually overpowered. He can do 9999 damage the earliest because getting the AP ammo is extremely easy to get 99 of once you can mod cards which I’m pretty sure is when you get Diablo.
Irvine IS the go to for Speedrun
Uh with the right ammo, Irvine does 9999 each shot using his limit break. So yeah…he gets used.
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I know Khimari _can_ be strong, but in general he's just more trouble than he's worth to build up compared to the others. Granted, I've never gotten to the point that I can take down the Dark Aeons, but otherwise managed to get pretty strong (Ultima and final story boss got curbstomped). Funnily enough, Rikku ended up my MVP for physical damage. She started out weak, but got strong towards the end, I think because she just leveled fast.
You are right about Snow being a lesser character, but there is way more to it. Even though everyone can eventually get access to all roles, the 3 lesser ones are harder to build on. Each character also has their own skillset in each role, Sentinel Lightning is not the same as Sentinel Snow. Snow is by far the best Sentinel in the game, but he lacks a good sub role. Lightning is the best ravager with serviceable commando and medic. Sazh and Hope are both the best Synergists with great sub roles, Sazh with commando and sentinel while Hope has medic and ravager. These are some examples of how well balanced some of the characters, it just feels like Snow is outclassed by every other character
Don’t mind Jess but she needs a colour match for that foundation she looks yellow I thought she had jaundice at first
O...k?
This was a lot of fun to see what trends have emerged. My indecisive self always has a red mage. I never used Irvine because he seemed boring compared to the other characters and he annoyed me with how he treated women. I actually used Snow… until I got Fang. Then I used Lightning, Fang, and Vanille. The one character from 13 I never used was Hope. That kid bugged me. 😂 the rest were pretty spot on for me!
Jump should not have been a lb for Kimarhi
I'm a FPS shooter and I have a hard time understanding the appeal of turn base RPG games. Whenever my friend goes off about how great Bahamut is, I just go, "Yeah, ok " 😂
We all know to take Kimarhi down Rikku's path for an early thief and then join Yuna's grid for a kick ass thief white mage with holy.
I use Irvine all the time. I enjoy his character and his Limit is always fun to use because of the level of interaction in the game itself.
I teamed up Umaro with Relm & Strago for the memes: imagine an abominable snowman throwing around a little kid & an old man. 😂
going to have to rebut Kimahri here. He's not for what you think he's for. he's a Jack of all trades who's also the most well rounded character: stronger than the weakest party member in every metric, often being the 2nd strongest in EVERY metric.
He's for swapping in for fallen allies, as some enemies can prevent revivification from certain statuses.
For instance, if a main character in a role is susceptible to, say, sleep, and they're consistently not getting to take their turn, then Kimahri to the rescue!
Facing a Flying enemy so your Melee character is just standing around doing nothing with their thumb where the sun don't shine? Kimahri to the rescue!
Rikku getting One-Hit every round and you NEED to try to steal but Tidus is the ONLY one fast enough to cause damage? Kimahri to the rescue!
crossing a big map and you're FINALLY getting close to a save point but you're out of phoenix downs? Kimahri to the Rescue!
sure, in the late game you may have super-items that make everyone immune to everything, but for the WHOLE game before that, Kimahri is your Sidearm, and remember folks, "switching to your sidearm is usually faster than trying to reload under fire"
I ALWAYS used Irvine, it was one of my party staples because he was awesome, though I never had an issue with his limit using ammo because I had a pocket station (the playstation's VMU), and as such, I ALWAYS had dark matter, and from that, an unlimited supply of pulse ammo
Kimahri is so cute that I mostly feel bad for not using him, but he really is quite bad in battle :(
But there are some characters on this list that I use quite often. Like Amaranth who is great in the story-game. I also like the red mage but I really do recognize his flaws....
Kimari is used in FFX speedruns, since one of his limit breaks can one-shot the final boss. So he's got that going for him.
Also, I'm Team FFI red mage. I like them better than white mages because they are better early. My typical party will be fighter, red mage, monk, black mage. The main issue with red mages is that you have to spend a lot of money to equip them with both weapons and magic; I counteract that with a monk that doesn't need to be equipped with anything.
Kimahri I agree with about overall down on his stats in the sphere grid lay out cause he covers all bases. But the second you can shift him over to aurons sphere grid then he can become amazing.
Now I'm wondering which 7 characters Jess didn't know before this video and if she agrees about the characters she did know of
100% wrong on Snow. He is a godsend endgame against the highest marks. Once maxed his HP is second to none and a real help when tanking damage.
Amorant was also great in FFIX if used right. I've never done a playthrough of IX without him.
The statement about jobs isn't entirely correct, play FFXII specifically Zodiac Age. What's cool about jobs being signature of the Tactics series is that FFXII is the only mainline game that occurs in the same world as the Tactics series.
I was actually much more a physical attack player, using magic to heal self & hinder enemies. So… Umara when he’s doling out 9999 per hit, was actually ok, especially when the whole roster had to b split into multiple parties for certain dungeons. Almost every character gets to see play & I wouldn’t want to get caught with any weak link in my chain
I guess it shows how well balanced most of the earlier final fantasy games are that most of the supposed worst characters have special uses: umaro is great in the coliseum, irvine is highly valued in speed runs, kimarhi is really useful early to middle game if you go down the steal route, and in ff1 nes the white and black mages are bugged so the red mage is also quite useful, lastly cait sith can be manipulated to in every battle instantly win with his slots skill which is quite useful in speed runs.
I like irvine and kimhari is one of the best when you learn how to use him. You can get the aga spells before lulu with him
The problem with Kimahri was his sphere grid on early stages was a mediocre in compare to others that was focused on certain traits like Tidus' grid focused on speed, etc.
Irvine is incredibly op, what are you talking about? Amerit is also good with utility. Especially with he can counter spells with the same spells that hit him. Kmirie is very op if you exploit the sphere grit.
Irvine is awesome. Selphie can insta-kill Omega Weapon and Ultima Weapon with her limit break.
umaro was the best character with his relics to bring to the world of ruin tower of magic... he could over ride the rules and use melee the whole way which all of the mobs were super vulnerable to.
Kimahri in X. Everyone has their own path on the Sphere Grid except for him so he just ends up being an inferior copy of someone else.
She's rating Selfie higher than Irving?
What?
The dude can dole out 100,000 damage in about 5 seconds, and do it over and over again.
Irving can solo any boss in the game. Selfie can use "the end," but if you are going to rely on that for a playthrough, you might as well just use a gameshark and make enemies self destruct at the start of every battle.
Not gonna put anyone down for not knowing how OP Irvine can be HOWEVER you must know Irvines limit break can have more damage output than Squalls lionheart if you get the right circumstances 😎
Irvine got done dirty here. Yeah, he isnt as high damaging as Zell, ovar usefull as Rinoa or a 1-cast win button like Selphie, but he is a source of concistently high damage if junctioned properly.
Ammo is so easy to refine, and with 255 str & one cast of Meltdown, fast ammo is the optimal option for his limit. So he will do consistant, predictable high damage every time, while Zell or Selphie is more luck and input based. With proper use of the juction system, Quistis is unfortunantly the worst character mechanicly since single hit limits are useless in a game where you can make every character do 9999 max damage with standard attacks
err that's not true about Irvine being the least used. Back in the day where we only had gamefaqs, it's on top of what character is being suggested. Think this was poorly researched.