Lets put this in a way that anybody can understand .......If i have only enough money to buy a Toyota Etios ......then that is what i must buy ....If i havnt got enough money to buy a Lexus......then i cant buy a Lexus ...Nobody is bitching about that .....i can afford private healthcare .....but now my rights are being destroyed because other people that cannot afford private healthcare must now being GIVEN private healthcare ...Why is this now a problem ....but buying a mansion or a Lexus is ok..??...It is because this corrupt ..communist ...government.... wants to steal all the money that will have to be paid over to them from the Medical Aids ...and of course this is a political move with the Bela laws to sucker the Black population to keep on voting ANC ...!!.....They think we as stupid as they are ..!!
The day you need to be hospitalised the private hospitals will be over crowded and us tax paying medical aid members must vrot in a public hospital and the guy you contributing for has your bed.this is what is going to happen
They never did in the first place. Everyone remember times like Zuma going to International Medical experts whenever they had anything serious.. So the politicians Never intend to use any local treatments, because ALL the specialists apparently exist only outside South Africa
I always had a medical aid until I had to tetire, and its terrible. I get Sassa only and cannot afford a medical aid. To😢😢 make it worse is if you have an existing chronic problem, 😢you dont even get an ear.
😢 as Government official, I pay a lot for my medical aid scheme and rarely use it!!!!!!!!😢 It sounds like an illegal looting system is being forced into law??????😢
I understand our president at all, worse even his advisers, why are they not fixing Government hospital to the best, they must improve Government facilities, so that even those Doctors that are not working can get a job. I mean really u can't fix right with wrong. Private hospital, its the only thing that is working in SA. I was in Brooklyn Police station weeks back i couldn't believe how Dirty the place is, from the reception it's full of dust , and inside the building u can see that the paint in the wall its old, i can't talk about the floor. No ANC they must start stop this thing of Stilling money.
Tax my friend, tax. We are going to be taxed more to pay for this... That's why it's a problem. More money to a government that can't do anything right with what it already has. That's why it's a problem
I guess now that the taxes are paying for free medical, we the tax payers can request that the corrupt public servants can get a free medical to remove fingers or hands that take/steal money that don't belong to them?
Now, will my 2 Grannies Penshiner Medical aid no longer be valid? Because they do not get enough Pension to afford the Cronic Medications, and I wont be able to afford them on my pitiful salary..? Or will have I have to try and upgrade their SASSA profile or something because they MUST get their medicine paid through this?
Walk into a State hospital...Look at what South Africans pay according to their income...Then talk. 😂 Then look if it still sounds good. Remember your Politicians running this😂
@@freddievanrensburg982 I cancelled my private medical aid because it was too expensive. You still pay for yours, but it will be taken away from you, and you will have to pay extra tax to pay for likes of me to get free health care. Who will be 😂then?
Who determines normal rates ? Who paid for that doctor to specialise ? Who made the sacrifices to sit and study and become that professional? Who gets to determine what that professional can charge for his or her skills
They won't. And South Africa will lose these skills as these skilled medical professionals will all go overseas. A national health programme is a good concept, but not in a country where 5% of the population sustains the other 95% through their taxes. The solution is to implement sound economic and labour policies to sustain growth, not the outdated policies of the ANC.
This government could not implement anything succesfull in the longterm in this country. They start of with a grwat idea to get peoples votes and then with bribary the give the contracts to friends of family that never complete the jobs. Would like to see how this one is going to roll out😂
If government can come up with a way that ends up with me not being robbed by medical aids, I'm all for it. The private sector is milking us and it's not like their services are better. Why must a hospital charge R12000 per day for me being in their facilities? It's just a bed with a few people in the room.
The government just needs to take responsibility for the healthcare system wtf has the minister of health done over the past years The infrastructure of these heathcares The fact that most areas are far away from any medical facility Areas without any medical facilities This not fair
And where is the money going to come from for this scheme? The 65% of South Africans who work cannot be taxed any higher. The working people will all immigrate in MASS if they are taxed any higher. Where is the money going to come from Cyril WHERE?
Unfortunately...you will pay towards NHI (extra health tax based on your income)....you may find its a similar Rand amount but you will be receiving state health care instead of private. Will be a mess!
So, the illegal "immigrants '" will get a bed in the hospital, but the taxpayer will be told to go home . What a nightmare. Would rather die at home, but using the NHI will be more dangerous than a home breaking
The private hospitals, private medical aid and private healthcare is worth billions provided SOLELY by the private sector. The government is solely responsible for the state health services with taxpayer money and is a total failure and 3rd world quality. The NHI will not be able to purchase healthcare from the private sector which is a more expensive service as it cannot with the money available at present spend the available money effectively on public sector healthcare. Accessibility in rural areas will not improve whether it is NHI or private medical aid due to geographical realities. Accessibility and availability of private healthcare resources in urban areas are based on the real need and economics of private healthcare. In other words the capacity of resources will not be able to cater for state demand. This is socialistic and communistic interference in the private sector and an ideology that will cause the deterioration and destruction of healthcare in South Africa.
U and I can moan, groan & shout as much as we like - they do as they please by Agreeing & Signing into Law whatever they want for Self Enrichment / Power and Mass Control of the Masses etc. that don’t know any better .. this all started 1994 already. When FREE EDUCATION was Promised … !!! Say what u like.
I'm new to this channel. The lady speaking, sounds so amazing. Professional, educated and in charge. The man from FedHealth however, sounds like a total w@nker and actually proved my point, for leaving FedHealth last year, after having them as my Medical Aid, for 15 years. FedHealth are losing more and more members, due to the fact, that it's run, by incompetent men and woman, such as the speaker here today.
Ramaphosa is the worst nightmare this country has ever had in the history of SA
I don't think so. Mandela maybe yes
Agree he is the worst EVER
Agree he's downgrading the country
I remember we were excited when he was going to be the president of South Africa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Instead he stuffed the money in sofas and matresses 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
New resipe for more corruption.
This entire NHI debacle makes me laugh 😃
This government cannot even run a damn tuck shop!!!!!
The ANC thinks the middle class has infinite money to fund their infinite greed...
South africa as wealth of resources. The poor majority dye to historic wrongs welcome this
Lets put this in a way that anybody can understand .......If i have only enough money to buy a Toyota Etios ......then that is what i must buy ....If i havnt got enough money to buy a Lexus......then i cant buy a Lexus ...Nobody is bitching about that .....i can afford private healthcare .....but now my rights are being destroyed because other people that cannot afford private healthcare must now being GIVEN private healthcare ...Why is this now a problem ....but buying a mansion or a Lexus is ok..??...It is because this corrupt ..communist ...government.... wants to steal all the money that will have to be paid over to them from the Medical Aids ...and of course this is a political move with the Bela laws to sucker the Black population to keep on voting ANC ...!!.....They think we as stupid as they are ..!!
Communism 101
The day you need to be hospitalised the private hospitals will be over crowded and us tax paying medical aid members must vrot in a public hospital and the guy you contributing for has your bed.this is what is going to happen
Healthcare for all is not a bad thing though
WELL GUYS, THE PARTY THAT RULES MAKES THE LAWS & RULES. ANC VOTERS DONT MIND GOOD HEALTH CARE. NON ANC VOTERS ARE CRYING WOLF. HOW SICK THEY ARE
@@theovandyk5402 If this happens no one will continue paying into medical aids unless they don't pay the premiums themselves.
Politicians are not gonna use public health services,mnxm isigebengu esingu ra nko
They usually go to Russia for treatment.
@@tonythebomb4147 Exactly!
They never did in the first place. Everyone remember times like Zuma going to International Medical experts whenever they had anything serious.. So the politicians Never intend to use any local treatments, because ALL the specialists apparently exist only outside South Africa
@@johanbritz976 spot on comment.
I always had a medical aid until I had to tetire, and its terrible. I get Sassa only and cannot afford a medical aid. To😢😢 make it worse is if you have an existing chronic problem, 😢you dont even get an ear.
Exactly. To the minority is a loss
Old retired people pay nothing !
😢 as Government official, I pay a lot for my medical aid scheme and rarely use it!!!!!!!!😢 It sounds like an illegal looting system is being forced into law??????😢
I've said the same time and again. What they stole is insufficient for their needs. The NHI allows them to steal even more.
Lmao. Corporate SA is a joke. Imagine negotiating with communists and then being shocked when they effectively legislate you out of the market. Lol.
Best Comment Ever!! Nail on the head! Scary, but True
I have no confidence in the ANC
Its not just corporate SA, its all people of SA 😂 remember the time ANC took over the country 1994, where are we now?
The poor are happy the rich are poor.
@@lovedlover2667 the poor are so happy they start looting
People have the right to have medical aid.
State Health care...Supplied by South African Government.
Which ppl you referring too. The gogo in the shack and her grandchildren are elated
WOW another service we have to pay twice for. First the post office then the police now this
Prepare to wake at 4am and standing in long lines at Life just to hear come back tomorrow 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I understand our president at all, worse even his advisers, why are they not fixing Government hospital to the best, they must improve Government facilities, so that even those Doctors that are not working can get a job. I mean really u can't fix right with wrong. Private hospital, its the only thing that is working in SA. I was in Brooklyn Police station weeks back i couldn't believe how Dirty the place is, from the reception it's full of dust , and inside the building u can see that the paint in the wall its old, i can't talk about the floor. No ANC they must start stop this thing of Stilling money.
Why do we need to be defensive about this. Government health options are poor to non-functional. I pay for better. Why is this a problem?
Exactly, why not fix the current state hospitals which are in a state of destruction. Typical ANC not looking after anything
It's really mind boggling! If I can pay why not let me? If I can't pay then help me access institutions that can solve my medical problems
Tax my friend, tax. We are going to be taxed more to pay for this... That's why it's a problem. More money to a government that can't do anything right with what it already has. That's why it's a problem
I guess now that the taxes are paying for free medical, we the tax payers can request that the corrupt public servants can get a free medical to remove fingers or hands that take/steal money that don't belong to them?
...the military hospitals, where parliamentary served will that also be open for public?
Must be
Now, will my 2 Grannies Penshiner Medical aid no longer be valid? Because they do not get enough Pension to afford the Cronic Medications, and I wont be able to afford them on my pitiful salary..? Or will have I have to try and upgrade their SASSA profile or something because they MUST get their medicine paid through this?
My colleague was very upset this morning about this!
Do they have example of where a similar model has been implemented successfully?
Why must I pay R3,500/month for Discovery when I can save that money and go for free under NHI? Sounds good to me. Thanks Cyril!
Walk into a State hospital...Look at what South Africans pay according to their income...Then talk. 😂 Then look if it still sounds good. Remember your Politicians running this😂
@@freddievanrensburg982 I cancelled my private medical aid because it was too expensive. You still pay for yours, but it will be taken away from you, and you will have to pay extra tax to pay for likes of me to get free health care. Who will be 😂then?
Instead of paying medical aid, you will pay tax more. Lol. You will still pay but more to cover not just you but everyone else
It is great. Until you need medical care.
30% tax increase higher vat. Money must come from somewhere. Now you have an option of getting a medical aid. This bill will force you to get ot
How will this affect Dr's pricing for services. For example Dr's who ask above medical aid tariffs. How will they be paid out of the NHI.
They must stop overcharging and must charge normal rates
Who determines normal rates ? Who paid for that doctor to specialise ? Who made the sacrifices to sit and study and become that professional? Who gets to determine what that professional can charge for his or her skills
@@trevorryan4448 you’re a communist without basic economics knowledge
They won't. And South Africa will lose these skills as these skilled medical professionals will all go overseas. A national health programme is a good concept, but not in a country where 5% of the population sustains the other 95% through their taxes. The solution is to implement sound economic and labour policies to sustain growth, not the outdated policies of the ANC.
@conniedebeer1550 where do you get these ridiculous numbers?🤣🤣🤣
i didnt hear anything, yall played with my 7 mins 😑
Maybe you should get your ears checked with your new NHI account
I foresee the increase in tax just to get funds for the NHI , its gonna end in tears 😭😭 for the working class , thats if they'll still be having jobs
I think the Principal Officer is trying to defend this.
It’s a simple question and it wasn’t answered. How is this insurance bill going to effect us who have medical?
You will pay twice....
@@dominiquesmith7178 like everything else. 😂
Governments should never interfere with the people to this level - we are still not China or Russia
🛫
This government could not implement anything succesfull in the longterm in this country. They start of with a grwat idea to get peoples votes and then with bribary the give the contracts to friends of family that never complete the jobs. Would like to see how this one is going to roll out😂
If government can come up with a way that ends up with me not being robbed by medical aids, I'm all for it. The private sector is milking us and it's not like their services are better. Why must a hospital charge R12000 per day for me being in their facilities? It's just a bed with a few people in the room.
The government will take over the robbing. Their track record speaks for itself. Sorry to disappoint you.
The government just needs to take responsibility for the healthcare system wtf has the minister of health done over the past years
The infrastructure of these heathcares
The fact that most areas are far away from any medical facility
Areas without any medical facilities
This not fair
And where is the money going to come from for this scheme? The 65% of South Africans who work cannot be taxed any higher. The working people will all immigrate in MASS if they are taxed any higher. Where is the money going to come from Cyril WHERE?
Nhi is not free because the government is not paying for it it's the worker
Will cancel my medical aid
Me too
Same here. Bye bye Discovery! I'll keep my R 7 500 pm and bum off the goverment like the majority ........
Unfortunately...you will pay towards NHI (extra health tax based on your income)....you may find its a similar Rand amount but you will be receiving state health care instead of private. Will be a mess!
Why not fix the public health care centers first.
Not going to happen
I am going to stop paying medical aid. I will the monies and invest it
I welcome NHI as Western Cape Healthcare, albeit the pick of the bunch, is a dysmal failure. I feel sorry for the other 8 provinces.
The British, who are an educated nation cannot run their National Health System....how the hell is RSA going to get it right???
So, the illegal "immigrants '" will get a bed in the hospital, but the taxpayer will be told to go home . What a nightmare. Would rather die at home, but using the NHI will be more dangerous than a home breaking
Liar liar pants on fire
All the money will be looted
The private hospitals, private medical aid and private healthcare is worth billions provided SOLELY by the private sector.
The government is solely responsible for the state health services with taxpayer money and is a total failure and 3rd world quality. The NHI will not be able to purchase healthcare from the private sector which is a more expensive service as it cannot with the money available at present spend the available money effectively on public sector healthcare.
Accessibility in rural areas will not improve whether it is NHI or private medical aid due to geographical realities.
Accessibility and availability of private healthcare resources in urban areas are based on the real need and economics of private healthcare. In other words the capacity of resources will not be able to cater for state demand.
This is socialistic and communistic interference in the private sector and an ideology that will cause the deterioration and destruction of healthcare in South Africa.
HKGK mense!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Groot looperige kak
@@theovandyk5402
Hahahaaaaa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He sounds botha. Apartheid is a system of separate but one.
U and I can moan, groan & shout as much as we like - they do as they please by Agreeing & Signing into Law whatever they want for Self Enrichment / Power and Mass Control of the Masses etc. that don’t know any better .. this all started 1994 already. When FREE EDUCATION was Promised … !!! Say what u like.
I'm new to this channel.
The lady speaking, sounds so amazing. Professional, educated and in charge.
The man from FedHealth however, sounds like a total w@nker and actually proved my point, for leaving FedHealth last year, after having them as my Medical Aid, for 15 years.
FedHealth are losing more and more members, due to the fact, that it's run, by incompetent men and woman, such as the speaker here today.
talking from a point of privilege so selfish and racist
What are you talking about there millions of black people using private medical aids!