5G hysteria in the UK is yet another form of this syndrome. At the same time, real pollution causing respiratory failure isn't being seriously considered. What a crazy world.
A telecom built a cell tower on a building. The tenants protested. When the cell tower was finished, the tenants reported increased aches and illness. The telecom responded: "Just you wait until we turn it on!"
There was a case in the UK some years ago, where the middle-class commuters living in a rural village decided mobile phone towers cause cancer. So they disassembled the one on the edge of the village and mounted a guard to stop the telco rebuilding it. If poor inner-city kids had done it, the police would've shown up to crack their skulls within 20 minutes, but these folk got a TV interview. As the journalist walked up to them, their spokesman was front and centre, with his phone clamped to his ear. (He was probably bitching about bad coverage.)
NIMBY is a disease that has plagued people for centuries. Progress, whether good or bad, brings on NIMBYism. The generational change makes more things "nimby", people want freeways ... but not across their county. People fight truck stops, but want more consumer goods. Prisons, we all know that new prison should be in the next town, right. People infected with nimby "just know", but can not give a logical or reasonable reason for ( insert name of perceived danger here) being dangerous ... or is it inconvenient to their lifestyle.
The reason those people get sick IS real ... but it only happens when those turbines make noise in the 27-28hz region, also called the 'ghost frequency', which is KNOWN to make people anxious, sick, when exposed .. Even the police uses this sound to manage riots in some countries... This also happens with AC-fans in buildings. So it's definitely not with all Turbines; only a part of them, especially with certain windspeeds that generate infrasound in the turbine powerplant (unhearable humming) Don't believe me? check this video: czcams.com/video/df8QAgTJIio/video.html
I think im going through that right now. I smoke and Im kinda on meds that have horrible side effects so I don't know if it's just getting old or the combination of everything. I'mma be 40 next year. Its horrible.
Ideas like these are called Basiliks. Information which can be only harmful. One glance at the Basilisk and you are harmed. There are more serious examples of Basilisks, but I'd rather not share them.. Great video though!
@@maxwellhong5218 cognito hazard is like tissue to the Kleenex of the basilisk. One of the most famous cognito hazards is known as Roko's Basilisk, which does an effective job of elucidating it with a more concrete moral dilemma than is given in this video about Wind Turbine Syndrome. Because of the popularity of Roku's Basilisk, the term basilisk has become a slang term, and at least in my mind, the implication of moral imperative. Other famous cognito hazards include: The idea that you have threads growing under your skin The film with Jim Carrey called The Truman Show A number of SCP entries But one could argue that our culture is rife with them. For instance, the fetishization of suburban lawns wastes labor and many resources while harming the local ecosystem, but the United States as a whole supports invasive grass and mostly through no actual legislation. There is no benefit to having a lawn outside of the influence of other maintainers of lawns. I've heard it claimed that the IQ test is also a cognito hazard because it functions as a self fulfilling prophecy. But these last two examples have wide acceptance and I'm not sure if the basilisk term is still appropriate.
I have worked on these turbines for 7 years and have never been sick due to the turbines themselves. So when I seen this video, I was like "oh my gosh, another video about turbines making people sick". But I stayed and watched it and am genuinely happy to see someone explain it properly and not just say wind turbines bad.
I recently learned from a person that wind turbines cause cancer. And the person made clear that they were an expert by saying that they knew more about "wind" than anybody else.
I followed the text at the end of the video saying "Always research what you see on CZcams" and applied it to this comment because I really liked the quote. Turns out there isn't really any evidence that your quote was actually said by Einstein.
She'd flip if she found out Natives here in Central, United States. Love these things. LMAO My Tribe is investing in these things, cause Pine Ridge is "empty" (using non-native speak), and plenty of land and the companies actually willing to pay rent directly to the land owners. Plus a lot of people think they're cute. It's weird
Betcha some operatives appearing to be do gooders but fronting for fossil fuels will soon GENEROUSLY offer the natives compensation to consider another point of view.
We drove out to Wyoming from Alabama in 2011 and my wife and kids had never seen a wind farm. I had driven through the night, so as the sun came up we were in western Kansas, and the first thing my wife saw when she woke up was hundreds of those giant turbines spinning away on the plains as far as she could see. She got excited and woke up the kids and they all thought they were so amazing. I don't think they called them "cute", but they did think the wind farms were the coolest man made thing we saw on that trip. On the way back we visited the Black Hills area and Badlands NP, and we drove south through the Pine Ridge Reservation towards Nebraska. At that time I don't remember seeing any in the reservation.
@@jamesbehrje4279 i understand objects can be called cute, I think the Fiat 500 and the Honda E are both cute, even more so than any Prius and BMW, but cute is not something I would attribute to a wind turbine lol maybe the one at 5:18, but its still a stretch for me
"Dangerous Blow Jobs" was shot by Evan 'Come on I had to' Hadfield. This has to be the best line I've ever seen at the end of any video on this channel.
You are so right. I was born in Uruguay in 1948 and I clearly remember seeing wind mills all over the country side to pump up water. In Villa Serrana ( departament of Lavalleja) every single cottage had a tiny mill to produce some electricity to run the few lights they have and maybe a fridge,nobody has complained of being sick back then. Now we have this amazing mills,taking us from burning fossil fuels to create energy and these millenniums started complaining that they are an "eye sore". Next thing we hear is that they create illnesses. I can give my honest opinion about these people,in two languages,but I don't want to be rude. After all, I being living in Canada for a life time and in here we are known to be very polite. I love your channel and your way to bring real issues in such a clear way. Keep up the good work amigo,greetings from Toronto.
The human being can be so suggestible. I'm nearly eighty and understand well the things I've retained that were simply because I was suggestible. Also, we project to one another all the time, probably unaware of it for the most part and it can have an effect.
yeah decapitating birds and putting out an inconsistent power amount meaning they need to run a generator then getting torn down in 20 years so some asshole can build a new generator on it because it broke down all leading to a high carbon output due to the steel production cost of energy that needs replacement
When i see Windturbines i feel good. I know they replace a coal plant somewhere. When i come by one i sometimes drive up to it, stare at it and ask it "Who's a good power plant" and it goes WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH.
The thing with windturbines is, unless you have massive hydro-plants, you still need those coal plants to be around in case there is no wind, or too much wind (storms) and they need to turn the windmills off ortherwise the wind will damage them.
@@WWZenaDo oh, don't get me started on solar pannels! The moment in time that we need most electricity is when its dark outside (when people wake up/ have dinner + early office hours during the winter) and then solar pannels make NO energy at all. Solar is a additional source at best, it can not be used as a base.
it should make you super human from all that gyroscopic alternator electromagnetic switching in ac current as you whistle behind it with your spanners and pliers and marlboro in your mouth..
you wanna try building them offshore..100 metre towers.....you get seasick when you are in the hub....all that swaying around like being in a fkcuin washing machine
outside my window, rather far away in the distance are a couple of wind turbines. to be honest, watching them turn gently, embedded in the rich fauna of the landscape really relaxes me. they symbolize energy , human progress and sustainability. the only symptoms they made manifest i could think of, is procrastination, as the hypnotizing turning often made me wander off into daydreams instead of working on uni stuff.
I think the bottom line is that misinformation is contagious and every single one of us are "carriers" in some way. You will never be correct about everything, but realizing that you may be mistaken is very hard for people to do. The best way to fight this disease is through humility; admitting that you are wrong when presented with facts rather than doubling down on your ideas. Great video, as always!
It might sound like "alternate facts" talk. But when people present something as "fact" and it goes against what I have observed, I am immediately suspicious if that is "fact" at all. But just in case, for some events talked about as fact, I try to research, I then find often find counter arguments, with evidence, with different facts. In cases where I am certain, I once again feel like I was proved right in my perceiving unsubstantiated claims. But I am still skeptical of both sides sometimes. So I ask in those cases, who is actually right? To really know, sometimes you have to be an expert in the subject. But between lack of consensus between even experts in some fields, and the inability to ever learn everything, even with infinite time as the encyclopedia grows faster then you can read it, to make it a short story. Being absolutely sure of the truth is impossible. Is all information disinformation, or is there only one objective truth amoungst the millions of books and ways of thinking and none of them describe it in full anyway? And you just can't know which is which? Humility isn't enough, put simply. Unless you believe nothing. If you must believe in something to get by in life, you will likely believe something that is wrong. For whatever definition of wrong we use. If you understand that, then you are in the boat I feel I'm in, finding something to believe in, and yet everything is likely wrong, so the only way to believe in something, is to lie to myself. And I find that impossible, if I know what I believe is wrong and a lie, I am not actually believing it.
In Brazil's Northeast Region (one of the poorest areas in the country), nearly *90%* of their electricity is generated by wind power. There are no reports of wind turbine-related illness. I guess they have better things to do, such as working very hard to earn a living.
People who "Love"Nature are cretins,Nature is something to be understood not loved,I would take all these Nature lover's Strip them of all there modern comforts and Drop them in the Middle of the Rain Forrest and see how long their love of nature lasts
I had some issues when I was on Holliday's with a wind turbine next to my apartment But my issue was the obnoxious sound it made all day and especially all night that stopped me from sleeping
Eventually that poor sleep could lead to endocrine problems or exacerbate an underlying health condition due to affecting hormone production of the brain etc. Some of us are very sensitive to these things. People with genetic mutations particularly, who otherwise would never have known they had any genetic difference under normal circumstances.
It's interesting how people don't like the viev of wind turbines. I mean i always thought they looked extremly cool in the fields. It's like the windmills from the past but looking more modern. they kinda make you feel like you live in the future
Honestly in Uruguay, I live a good 80-100km away from (what I think is) the field this was filmed in and let me tell you, there's nothing cooler than looking at the horizon at night and seeing 20-30 blinking red lights from these things
@@TheLOLGINGER over two decades of actual scientific studies and case notes have proven otherwise. Keep your tin foil hat on though, helps us identify the uninformed.
@@TheLOLGINGER Cellular signal effects on humans has been studied and documented since around '94 on hundreds of thousands of patients across multiple countries. In case you aren't able to calculate that, it's been over 26 years of studies. Your statement of nothing being safe doesn't contribute anything to the conversation. The fear mongering is exactly why this video had to be created in the first place.
@@TheLOLGINGER LOL!!! Okay, keep subscribing to those Q Anon forums if gargling conspiracy theories makes you feel special and unique. Move to a deserted island already if you're so afraid of existing in a society or being anywhere near technology. Get off of youtube and put your money where your mouth is.
It's interesting how a trained scientist can STILL allow personal bias to affect their conclusions. Needless to say, asking specifically for people who claim that wind turbines made them sick to come forward and be interviewed is what is known as a "skewed sample". Funny how I seem to have many of these symptoms and the nearest wind turbine is about 200 Km away. Those turbines are sneaky! It couldn't possibly have anything to do with my age, right? This video does make me sick. It makes me sick that someone who is (supposedly) educated would allow their own animus towards wind turbines to literally make people sick. By the way I enjoyed the footage of the turbines. It seems very peaceful and it's nice to be able to look at wide open spaces, even if I can't go there in person. Thank you for this.
I know health care professionals who believe Trump over science regarding Covid-19. Get your head around that one. Ppl, at least some of them, are easily deceived.
It is mostly only in your mind. Most of these discomforts are things we usually learn to live with, but now that you have seen this video, it is harder to leave those thoughts alone. It is on par with saying to you "Whatever you do, do not think about pink elephants or purple toads." ;-)
"It's interesting how a trained scientist can STILL allow personal bias to affect their conclusions." This is a phenomenon called the bias blind spot. Be careful, though - we need to ensure that malicious people don't use it to discredit scientific research in general. The approach to it can't be black and white, as black and white thinking is also problematic. Instead, good peer review, controls, and replication of results is how we need to fight this.
They also could have asked those who had an encounter with Jesus, Aliens or Supernatural Powers to come forward. I bet the numbers would not differ much.
@@Doubledunk It depends of the cost of the materials, for example the carbon footprint made in the making of a solar panel is big enough that it pretty much evens out with the energy the panel will end creating so it is questionable if it is green. Thus we have to ask ourselves if the making of the wind turbine is not on the same spot.
@@RareEarthSeries ...sadly, it doesn't work. You cannot combat the bias blind spot with facts - it actually has an adverse effect in terms of addressing fallacious behavior.
@Rare Earth I take a sleeping pill that may or may not work. It helps me fall asleep, but I don't think it does that for a biological reason. NyQuil has real knockout drugs in it, but the pill I take probably doesn't. The reason the pill works is, in all likelihood, because of the placebo effect. It works because I expect it to work, and I expect it to work because of the placebo effect. Turn this on its head. If someone believes in windmill sickness, they can know how it works and still be sick. They will get sick because that's what they expect, and even if they know why they are getting sick, they still expect to be sick.
@@MrDood-le8mn The placebo effect only works if you believe in it, if you dont believe your sleeping pill actually works, it wouldnt work if it's actually just a placebo.
Thank you for reminding me of this disease. Just like I was diagnosed with depression like 3 years ago, I forgotten about it. Your mind can sometimes be your worst enemy,. Face your fears, y'all
While touring a college, a very charismatic instructor for a class on wind energy showed me the basics on how wind turbines work and how great they can be for the environment, and when I see turbines now I think of the instructor and wish I took that class tbh. I think it would have been a very rewarding field to work in
Damn you, Sir! I contracted a severe case of Typhoid Nocebo with a cachectic dash of Psychosomatic Suggestibility , because of your video. On a side note, the wind turbines have other issues regarding their noise levels when their close to homes (especially at night) and the windmills long-term sustainability among others. Then again, nothing is perfect, there will always be a compromise.
I've never been able to get close enough to one to hear it. They're are drowned out by nearby trees, bushes, and traffic noise. I've heard recordings, and I find the sound quite pleasant. I could sleep to that, as long as it's just the windage through the blades, without any kind of "clanking" sound.
According to many utilities, they are considered "negative load" due to the randomness of the wind. To be considered true "coop", They would need to be paired with electrical energy storage, so the power can be supplied on demand,(dispatchable) not just when the wind happens to be blowing.
I need a turbine outside my house! I, recently, drove through Texas and Colorado and each time I saw a turbine field I would get a sense of euphoria and happiness. I mean, how wonderful to create energy from the wind! I often use those memories when I need a boost. Seriously, I think the turbines are awesome! :)
During the day they're interesting. At night, if you've never driven through the Midwest at night before and can't put two and two together to realize what they are...holy crap all the lights freak you out. I thought I was driving through a secret military base or something.
@@rrudydedogg3779 Yes, sadly some birds are killed by wind turbines. Domestic cats kill a multiple of this amount every year, but I've never heard anyone complain about that.
Our store, which sells cell phones, has to carry a sign saying Some people think it might be trouble. That’s the City of Berkeley. Of course we have an enormous WiFi signal in there too.
I would go down to the New Jersey coast a lot growing up and I always remembered the wind turbines as a pleasant piece of the scenery and a representation of being in sync with nature; something like an idea of progress. Its strange to me that they could be so scary.
an idea of progress? lol we wont truly progress until we start going nuclear... wind and solar are way to inefficient take up to much material and harm to much wild life. we arent saving the planet by using these renewable energies we are just hurting it.
@Kyle Air and water pollution. Particularly Coal Fired Power Plants. Read this..."Impact of Coal-fired Power Plant Emissions on Children’s Health: A Systematic Review of the Epidemiological Literature" www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6604200/
Kyle not wrong. Non scientific but I live in a small community along a river, the power plant is on one side with half the population and the other half is downwind. Everybody knows it's caused health problems from the pollution.
This is one the most interesting videos I have ever watched. I knew about psychosomatics and how it’s done through information , but this has a range of implications
Dude! I discovered your channel two days ago through this video! Why the hell didn't I discover you before?! Watched most Balkan episodes, some Japan episodes and some others, and I'm utterly blown away by the quality and intenseness!
I consider 6 to be my "lucky" number. Kinda spooky you said 6 instead 7.. when showing a sign of 7. Was that mistake? or is my lucky number lead me to making this comment and getting a youtube heart?
Listen Mary, people are sheeple. I figured that out for sure over 20 years ago when a friend and I, bored with being 18 and wondering how smart our group of friends really were, we made up a guy. Just made up a person, we called him Jim and then with no back story for him, not anything resembling details, nothing but a name and how great he was and how much fun we had hanging out with him and we just started throwing comments out when with our other friends. Not even talking to anyone but each other, we'd say , damn man I was just thinking about Jim earlier, I miss that guy so much. Just an occasional mention... It was truly astonishing as it took less than a week, and we heard the first one of our friends fall into our trap, then another as they would start also bringing up Jim. They also missed him and wondered when he'd be back. No one noticed we hadn't even said he'd gone anywhere, like I said, no details, to the point Jim wasn't even believable as an imaginary friend for a child packing in creativity. So, like I said, sheeple. You say something enough, mention someone or something enough and some percentage of the people listening will buy in, even of it leaves them missing a friend that they never actually met because they never existed in the first place. 🙃😉
@@paulryan2128 Be gentle, Paul. Jen is grieving because Jim came down with the wind cancer. I went and saw him the other day and things are not so good.
The feeling after you watch a video about something that's fake that you clicked on because you might not have known if it was real. So you feel like it was a waste of time, but the video is actually about how it's fake, and then in the video you are told that this "sickness" is now spread more because you watched the video. Now you feel even more like you shouldn't have watched it as it really wasn't worth knowing that some people felt something because of them believing in something that's also fake. But it gets worse because you might say something about this to someone else and you might share the video. Now more people are sick not because they believe but sick because they know their time is gone and this fake condition with real symptoms has no bearing on anything and they know you sent it to them. They might be the type to share this sadness or to spread the misery. Thankyou
The footage of Uruguay on this video is so beautiful... So serene.... So peaceful. I know this is unrelated to the topic but I always really enjoy the drone shots in the videos. Uruguay just shot up a few spots in my travel list.
Love your videos. Belief is based on reality and then molds a new one. Placebo effects are as real as physics. There are so many different kinds of wind turbine syndromes.
I love windmills, they're like a monument of humans sustainable energy. It feels like the sort of thing future civilisations would see and be like 'woah, look at these energy monuments'
lol, if they last more than 2 decades. even Chernobyl made of concrete won't last, perhaps the elephant foot is the only thing that will surely remember us, a monument to our time.
First time hearing about this, really weird thing. I didn't even knew that people found wind turbines to be visually annoying, I find them kinda hypnotic to look at.
I had never seen a wind turbine for most of my life. The first time I did was in an alpine valley while i was in vacation. The vista was absolutely stunning, and the turbines made it way, way better. What would've been only nature before, now was nature with a moving sculpture to humankind's attempt at synergizing with the natural world. White, clean, sleek and majestic.
In some areas they used strobe lights as markers on them to ward off aircraft or whatever. When you have an area with dozens of bright blinking lights, that can be annoying at night. The ones with glowing red markers don't have that problem. The only other thing I could think of is being downrange and into the shadow during sunrise or sunset. Because then you'd also get a strobing effect with the sunlight as the blades move. Other than that, they seem just fine.
I love that you referenced the 1985 Episode of Frontline that features the experiment with brown eye'd and blue eye'd children, which is actually an experiment that was meant to combat racism and did in those children by the end.
I'm surrounded. Wind turbines were built all around my rural home....when I moved here there were none. I can tell you this: I hate them. I hate living near them. I'm up right now 11pm and I can hear the one they built closest to my house...INSIDE my house. I moved here and built an energy-efficient 900 square foot strawbale house. It was my dream. I had found heaven in the peaceful, rural atmosphere. Now the horizons look dystopic....dotted with hundreds of giant white, spinning, noisy machines. It used to be just the sound of the birds and breeze in the trees....now I seldom have a single day without the noisy turbine, steadily strumming away...it's LOUD. They get tax breaks, meanwhile, my property taxes went up over 70% in one year after the turbines were built within sight of my house! Talk about insult to injury. Yes. I absolutely hate the #blattnerenergy turbines here in #millscountytexas I'm heartbroken and struggle with bitterness every day due to this situation.
We used to have a windmill that pumped all the drinking water for the farm. I don't think these high priced, high maintenance wheels operate quite the same.
True, but those were not generating electricity or spinning so quickly. It's a bogus illness, but old windmills is not the strongest argument against them.
I slept somewhere in Kansas in my truck for a night or two night and 1 wind turbine several miles away drove me freaking crazy. I didn't know there were turbines anywhere near where I was but a low grumbling caused me not to sleep all night and I discovered the turbine over a couple hills as I continued my trip towards the East. I was a disbeliever myself but after that experience I'm hear to tell you it really is a sleep disrupter.
@@TacticusPrime it shouldn't be. silencing stupid opinions makes those opinions seem like they have something behind it. if they're stupid, they're easily disproved, so disprove them and convince people. if you let people in power silence people, the rules made to silence others will inevitably be used to silence you
@@natalyst Agreed. Ridicule, sarcasm, satire and humor are better at exposing the foolishness of frightened people who have no critical thinking skills.
illegal* but I get your point. To me it's the fundamental flaw of democracy. It's impossible to eradicate stupidity yet every vote matters. Stupid people have as much of a say in politics as intelligent people. But stupid people are far, far, far less likely to have a political opinion rationally based. They are subject to manipulation. From people they know and from people who campaign for election. The whole point of a democratic system is to give the general public a say in politics. To reflect their own interests in the state. But the problem is, too many people don't know what they want. And that's the sad truth. All you need is a politician to tell you what you want, tell you what you want to hear and manipulate you into believing they reflect your interests. Democracies don't reflect the interests of the majority, it's simply a system to trick people into thinking they are reflecting their interests. But to speak out against it, you would be declaring that people are stupid and can't think for themselves. Which is completely true for a lot of people, at least in terms of politics, but would obviously be shot down in the time of social correctness where everybody is a special flower and everybody needs to be protected from criticism. Maybe, the governments wanted this... By protecting the idiots from criticism they are essentially protecting their ability to ignore the purpose of democracy. I don't know, maybe I am just a cynical bastard, but I think we are seeing an increasing trend worldwide of morons being manipulated to vote for things that don't support their best interests. How do I know I am not one of the twats I speak of? Well, I don't. But I did study politics and political theory and focused my final thesis on the democratic lie so I think I am in a position to criticize. I mean there is no easy solution, but one way to start would be a better education system. Schools are still teaching religion while politics and health are not mandatory. There is a reason that in the majority of democratic nations, few feel it necessary to educate their population on politics and their national political system. The more politically ignorant your population, the easier they are to manipulate. And yes, politics is everything in this discussion. People who are irrational towards vaccines, windmills, 5G and that sort of stuff, tend to have irrational political opinions too. What fuels all of those communities is the same thing. Fear, mistrust and conspiracies. The more people understand their country and how it is governed, the less fear and conspiracies float around. But good luck extending political education. If that happens, people might not be so quick to forgive the state for all of its many misdoings.
One was recently installed within a couple hundred feet from my house. Before it was installed, in March, I begin having mild-moderate dizziness, and frequent vertigo starting in April. My symptoms are slowly decreasing, and it doesn't seem to affect my symptoms at all. The whirling noise from high winds is a little annoying, but that is it. I'm worried about radiation, if it causes radiation. But living next to it, hasn't caused any new symptoms that I already had. I believe my symptoms are mostly anxiety related.
I think you have nailed it. I have been in India in an area where wind turbines are abundant and not heard of any cases of sickness attributed to them by the locals. Thank you so much for expressing this viewpoint. And eventually we can hope to see a scientific study addressing this issue. Meanwhile we can expect fossil fuel corporations to try to undermine any green technology.
@@gdttdeggegdh5471 - Ha ha ha ha ha! This is along the lines that dinosaurs burst into flames because there was too much oxygen in their atmosphere and with their tiny nostrils they breathed too fast, causing their noses to ignite. That's also where humanity's legends of dragons came from, because humans were around when dinosaurs lived... Was that from Ken Ham? Or somebody worse than him?
I live under 5 miles from hundreds of wind turbines. I've never heard of this and it makes no sense. Although a lot of them do leak brake fluid, so if you're underneath them they can burn and really mess with your eyes. Once you're more than about 10 meters away you're fine.
To be honest, I would have trouble sleeping at night if my house was the next-door neighbour to wind turbines, but that would mostly be caused by the unsteady noise and that a heavy smell of hydraulic fluids might drift by and in through my window.
The idea is that somehow they create a electromagnetic field which messes with the electric field in your body. This is so stupid as it drops off so fast that you probably would have difficulty measuring it even 20 feet away.
@@TrondBrgeKrokli Wind turbines are not loud at all. 100 meters away from the turbine they make the same amount of noise as a mid size window AC unit....like the kind that people install directly into their bedrooms. At 400 meters away, wind turbines are quieter than the refrigerator in your house. Does your A/c or refrigerator noise keep you awake too? If not then you're complaint is nonsensical. I've never experienced any of the hydraulic fluid if I was more than 100 meters away. You have to basically be directly underneath them. Your whole argument seems like someone with an agenda.
@@bobhope4288 Not at all, I just imagined living close to a wind turbine as some of those I saw in west-coast Sweden about 2003. I could hear their machinery from 500 meters away (although varying a bit) as if I was standing under it, if they have become less noisy in modern versions.
i love how you take on theese rare topics! wold you consider halogens and metalic salts or the parasites they so diligently cover up with colorful nomenclature?
There's more to this when this issue gets interlaced with internet and closed communities. When you are fine, you don't post on the internet about being fine. When you are feeling bad, you do sometimes post, and you sometimes do research and so you find other people's posts suggesting all sorts of things. One of them gets you. In one of them you believe. Then people form communities around these suggestions and these communities evolve like almost like an auto-imune disease. A few years ago I got in a rabbit hole of worry over my mother developing "chronic lymes disease" after she was diagnosed with just regular lyme disease (which is gone today). Long story short it took me MONTHS and one big scary revelation to understand that there is no such thing. Today I laugh about it and how my mom is doing just fine now that we stopped thinking about this stupid suggestion, but at the time, we both thought it was soon going to be the end of her life, and that wasn't fun. So please, whenever you grasp an idea, don't immeaditely accept it with all your claws like I and my mom did.
When I lived in NJ, I always saw a big wind turbine in Bayonne. It's almost a hundred feet higher than the Statue of Liberty. And it's in a so out of place location, makes you wonder why it's there. From boats, you see the skyline of NYC, Ellis Island, the Statue of Liberty, and then you see a lone wind turbine. It was a very interesting decision to build one there, it's the first Leitwind (Italian company) wind turbine to be installed in the US.
Maybe it was a test unit for an offshore product, they often do this on land for new types, but next to the ocean, presumably to expose them to the a salty environment but still make access easy for maintenance and monitoring.
I have a small problem with them but not quite the same as this. When driving past huge fields of them, seeing them spinning around can make me dizzy/nauseous if I focus too much on the spinning propellers. It doesn't happen if I'm not driving or in a moving vehicle though and is easily remedied by looking away from the propellers themselves. Standing in front of a field of them is just fine. I also get motion sickness when riding sideways in vehicles and on carnival rides that move side to side. I have also had a few cases of vertigo in the past where an inner ear infection caused me to wake up feeling extremely dizzy as if I was falling but that is completely unrelated to wind turbines. I don't have an issue with wind turbines being installed in places for alternative energy so long as they are placed in appropriate locations where there is enough wind for them to generate power and definitely wouldn't be protesting against them just because I get dizzy from looking at the spinning propellers while driving. Heck, looking at a bunch of those spinning pinwheel toys will do the same thing if they are big enough and I'm driving past them. In my case it isn't so much the turbines making me sick, it's a form of motion sickness. I wonder if some of these people initially had an issue like mine, but then got more psychosomatic issues after hearing her claims?
Speaking about the suggestibility of classroom children, there is a genre of scientific literature going back to the '70s dealing with the suggestibility of teachers : the tendency of a teacher to create a reality in the classroom according to his/her preconceived ideas
You guys are awesome. This is such an important message and so well said. This can apply to the internet in full.. An echo chamber of viral dangerous information, disguised as 'wellness'.
'Effects of low-frequency noise from wind turbines on heart rate variability in healthy individuals' Chun-Hsiang Chiu et al, published in Nature in 2021. Infrasound can cause strange effects, especially making people feel uneasy.
Thank you. I live in Hawaii and every time a wind power, solar farm, renewable project comes up, there's always a protest that cites "magical sickness" that is caused by new thing.
I will always remember that one farm outside town that sold some of their land to the wind farms, within 2 years they sold the place due to the turbines for like 2.5 million, that was about 10 years ago and since then its been bought and sold 3 more times, most recently it sold for like 800k.
I work in the wind industry and I am glad to see that this comment section is for the most part full of rational people. I spend at lease 10 hours a day 5 days a week on wind farms and at lease 8 of those hours a day are spend inside the turbine and it has never made mee sick bar the odd headache from the spell of hydraulic oil.
I would rather educate a person to manage misinformation, than try and shut the source. This is how we made more progress in the last 1000 years than the many before it.
Have you tried to argue against any conspiracy theory? It does not matter how good the arguments are or how much proper science/data you throw at them, the info is available for everyone anyway, problem is that they don't trust anything. People with strong beliefs will just come up with more insane explanations for contradicting facts... In their view everyone else is just stupid, brainwashed, etc. and does not understand the secret "truth" that they found. I think it is almost impossible to get out of that loop, especially if you believed something for years and would have to admit that it was totally wrong.
the key is to keep those radicals beneath 15% in every given society. Make every possibility for education accessible until reaching those numbers again and modulate resources acordingly. like stew suggested.
@jimmyjones05 oh, now I understand! It's like trying to teach gun nuts about how buyback programs in various have had a proven effect on violent crimes and suicide? Or explaining to right-wingers that our nation spends more per-person on healthcare than any other country on Earth, yet is not even close to first in healthcare quality, and we could easily support a single-payer healthcare system (the one proven around the world to have better effects on the health of citizens), but refuse to because of lobbyists for pharmaceutical companies paying for politicians' votes? I think I understand now, so glad you could explain it to me
An understanding of Hypnotism gives a very rewarding insight into the workings of the everyday human world. Virtually all information is completely free. It's on endless platforms. Everything you hear and see takes on a subtle meaning.
That end there is starting down some "roko's basilisk" route with that whole 'if only you hadn't've watched this because you're a part of the problem now too' bit. lol
Grew up with wind turbines in my home city. They've been there on the other edge of town as long as I remember. They are located near a large sports complex that I went and played soccer at as a kid. Never had a problem with them and I honestly wish we had more of them.
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I'm a carrier now? Shit
Very timely. People are setting 5g towers on fire.
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Are you guys back in Canada for this? I've been concerned
5G hysteria in the UK is yet another form of this syndrome. At the same time, real pollution causing respiratory failure isn't being seriously considered. What a crazy world.
Can I pay in toilet paper
A telecom built a cell tower on a building.
The tenants protested.
When the cell tower was finished, the tenants reported increased aches and illness.
The telecom responded: "Just you wait until we turn it on!"
That had the ring of Phoney symptoms 📉😎📈
Good that I have my RF + WiFi protection stones and essential oils.
@@JTA1961 under appreciated comment.
Tinfoil is cheap.
There was a case in the UK some years ago, where the middle-class commuters living in a rural village decided mobile phone towers cause cancer. So they disassembled the one on the edge of the village and mounted a guard to stop the telco rebuilding it. If poor inner-city kids had done it, the police would've shown up to crack their skulls within 20 minutes, but these folk got a TV interview. As the journalist walked up to them, their spokesman was front and centre, with his phone clamped to his ear. (He was probably bitching about bad coverage.)
Usually, we get the SCP foundation to deal with memetic hazards like this.
Holy shit, that's accurate.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this
She's a MTF in disguise
This! :D
I scrolled to read if someone commented exactly that
Sounds like the good “doctor” was suffering from an advanced case of ‘Not In My Back Yard’.
NIMBY is a disease that has plagued people for centuries. Progress, whether good or bad, brings on NIMBYism. The generational change makes more things "nimby", people want freeways ... but not across their county. People fight truck stops, but want more consumer goods. Prisons, we all know that new prison should be in the next town, right. People infected with nimby "just know", but can not give a logical or reasonable reason for ( insert name of perceived danger here) being dangerous ... or is it inconvenient to their lifestyle.
Only way to solve this is to add another 100 solar panels there to counter the ''windmill effect''
I suspect she has been wealthy and privileged all her life.
She would like to think she is doing the world a favor. We should be grateful !!
I have heard of this before, in San Francisco. The mere suggestion of building new housing causes people to break out in hives there.
The reason those people get sick IS real ... but it only happens when those turbines make noise in the 27-28hz region, also called the 'ghost frequency', which is KNOWN to make people anxious, sick, when exposed .. Even the police uses this sound to manage riots in some countries... This also happens with AC-fans in buildings.
So it's definitely not with all Turbines; only a part of them, especially with certain windspeeds that generate infrasound in the turbine powerplant (unhearable humming)
Don't believe me? check this video: czcams.com/video/df8QAgTJIio/video.html
I have lived with a windmill for 14 years and has effected me- it has saved me THOUSANDS of dollars in utility bills!
I'll bet you're doesn't have 90 foot blades, rise up hundreds of feet or have concrete base weighing 600+ tons.
@@inquirer1599 I think his windmill is a middle age european style windmill
If it cost less than THOUSANDS to construct then it isn't the same kind the video is talking about
All you all trying to prove something or show youre superior? He has a windmill. It saves him money.
@@inquirer1599
That's a tiny windturbine... I've climbed 450ft towers with 200ft blades. Those are big.
After age 40, I've felt all sorts of changes in energy and pains. It's real easy to misattribute signs of aging with external negative influences.
hell yes... i was sooo sure i had chronic lyme disease - what surprisingly started around age 45 or so :D
Because you couldn't possibly be getting older. That's for other people. Y'kow, THEM.
These are vaccine side effects.
@@peterrippon3854 I certainly hope you are joking.
I think im going through that right now. I smoke and Im kinda on meds that have horrible side effects so I don't know if it's just getting old or the combination of everything. I'mma be 40 next year. Its horrible.
My biggest issue with wind mills is that they use up all the wind, ruining the childhood for thousands of children who only want to fly their kite.
Won't anybody think of the children????
Eventually we won't even have any air left to breathe... Damn our energy needs..
xD
Lol, your comment sounds like something Ken M would write.
Pretty sure that's not how physics works, chief. But I'm sure you're only joking.
Really.. interesting who knew?
Oh it was a joke..haaa funny
Ideas like these are called Basiliks. Information which can be only harmful. One glance at the Basilisk and you are harmed. There are more serious examples of Basilisks, but I'd rather not share them.. Great video though!
Wow, that was one hell of a rabbit hole you sent me down.
Another example is spiderman. He kills you
I thought those were called "Cognito-hazards"
@@maxwellhong5218 cognito hazard is like tissue to the Kleenex of the basilisk. One of the most famous cognito hazards is known as Roko's Basilisk, which does an effective job of elucidating it with a more concrete moral dilemma than is given in this video about Wind Turbine Syndrome. Because of the popularity of Roku's Basilisk, the term basilisk has become a slang term, and at least in my mind, the implication of moral imperative.
Other famous cognito hazards include:
The idea that you have threads growing under your skin
The film with Jim Carrey called The Truman Show
A number of SCP entries
But one could argue that our culture is rife with them. For instance, the fetishization of suburban lawns wastes labor and many resources while harming the local ecosystem, but the United States as a whole supports invasive grass and mostly through no actual legislation. There is no benefit to having a lawn outside of the influence of other maintainers of lawns.
I've heard it claimed that the IQ test is also a cognito hazard because it functions as a self fulfilling prophecy.
But these last two examples have wide acceptance and I'm not sure if the basilisk term is still appropriate.
we need some anti-basilisks
I have worked on these turbines for 7 years and have never been sick due to the turbines themselves. So when I seen this video, I was like "oh my gosh, another video about turbines making people sick". But I stayed and watched it and am genuinely happy to see someone explain it properly and not just say wind turbines bad.
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Just because you go to college does not mean you are not crazy.
Most destroyers were well educated
@Boco Corwin One does not conquer the moral high ground with civilized behavior. You have to slaughter your way to the top.
*Ben Carson has entered the chat*
That's not what the voices say to me, you are a liar
@@stealthcactus "Ben Carson has entered the debate" Oh great, another SDA godder...
I recently learned from a person that wind turbines cause cancer. And the person made clear that they were an expert by saying that they knew more about "wind" than anybody else.
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well, we know tRump can't think his way out of a paper bag or research ANYTHING so just chuck anything he says on the informational compost pile
@@cherylcarlson3315 spot on 👍
REEER REEER REEER REEER
I was going to write the same thing, then thought I should see is someone already did
Einstein said it best "The only difference between Genius and Stupid is that Genius has its limitations."
I followed the text at the end of the video saying "Always research what you see on CZcams" and applied it to this comment because I really liked the quote.
Turns out there isn't really any evidence that your quote was actually said by Einstein.
Abraham Lincoln always said, don't trust everything you read on the internet...
Davinder Chandhok bruh 😂
I think this guy misremembered the Einstein quote of
“Two things are infinite: the universe, and human stupidity.”
Let me guess, you think you are a Genius!
She'd flip if she found out Natives here in Central, United States.
Love these things. LMAO
My Tribe is investing in these things, cause Pine Ridge is "empty" (using non-native speak), and plenty of land and the companies actually willing to pay rent directly to the land owners.
Plus a lot of people think they're cute. It's weird
Cute?
Betcha some operatives appearing to be do gooders but fronting for fossil fuels will soon GENEROUSLY offer the natives compensation to consider another point of view.
@@Yingyanglord1 objects can be described cute!!! Look at Toyota Priuss or those BMW Smart cars !!! Lol
We drove out to Wyoming from Alabama in 2011 and my wife and kids had never seen a wind farm. I had driven through the night, so as the sun came up we were in western Kansas, and the first thing my wife saw when she woke up was hundreds of those giant turbines spinning away on the plains as far as she could see. She got excited and woke up the kids and they all thought they were so amazing.
I don't think they called them "cute", but they did think the wind farms were the coolest man made thing we saw on that trip. On the way back we visited the Black Hills area and Badlands NP, and we drove south through the Pine Ridge Reservation towards Nebraska.
At that time I don't remember seeing any in the reservation.
@@jamesbehrje4279 i understand objects can be called cute, I think the Fiat 500 and the Honda E are both cute, even more so than any Prius and BMW, but cute is not something I would attribute to a wind turbine lol maybe the one at 5:18, but its still a stretch for me
"I'm not a big fan"
(a wind turbine)
This comment deserves more likes! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Well...I'm a BIG fan. (a bigger wind turbine).
I'll be a turbo-fan.
Good one
Hahaha Dad joke!
"Dangerous Blow Jobs" was shot by Evan 'Come on I had to' Hadfield. This has to be the best line I've ever seen at the end of any video on this channel.
What? I don't get it.
@@anselmschueler check the credits of the video
heh
You are so right. I was born in Uruguay in 1948 and I clearly remember seeing wind mills all over the country side to pump up water. In Villa Serrana ( departament of Lavalleja) every single cottage had a tiny mill to produce some electricity to run the few lights they have and maybe a fridge,nobody has complained of being sick back then. Now we have this amazing mills,taking us from burning fossil fuels to create energy and these millenniums started complaining that they are an "eye sore". Next thing we hear is that they create illnesses. I can give my honest opinion about these people,in two languages,but I don't want to be rude. After all, I being living in Canada for a life time and in here we are known to be very polite. I love your channel and your way to bring real issues in such a clear way. Keep up the good work amigo,greetings from Toronto.
Local woman hates clean energy so much she makes herself sick
@@moljinar what
The human being can be so suggestible. I'm nearly eighty and understand well the things I've retained that were simply because I was suggestible. Also, we project to one another all the time, probably unaware of it for the most part and it can have an effect.
Wind energy is the worst kind of ""clean"" energy
yeah decapitating birds and putting out an inconsistent power amount meaning they need to run a generator then getting torn down in 20 years so some asshole can build a new generator on it because it broke down all leading to a high carbon output due to the steel production cost of energy that needs replacement
but hey atleast its not solar
Agreed, I feel very sick when I'm strapped to one and left spinning for half a day :(
Oml 🤣
When i see Windturbines i feel good. I know they replace a coal plant somewhere.
When i come by one i sometimes drive up to it, stare at it and ask it "Who's a good power plant" and it goes WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH.
I know of a famous person who talked to windmills. It didn't go well for him.
The thing with windturbines is, unless you have massive hydro-plants, you still need those coal plants to be around in case there is no wind, or too much wind (storms) and they need to turn the windmills off ortherwise the wind will damage them.
@@wybo2 And then there are solar panels to act as backup for wind turbines, when needed.
@@WWZenaDo oh, don't get me started on solar pannels! The moment in time that we need most electricity is when its dark outside (when people wake up/ have dinner + early office hours during the winter) and then solar pannels make NO energy at all.
Solar is a additional source at best, it can not be used as a base.
@@wybo2 indeed, most alternatively power sources are supplemental, though I think w can all agree that it's good to have those alternatives at all
I’ve worked inside of wind turbines for almost 3 years. They don’t make you sick.........
it should make you super human from all that gyroscopic alternator electromagnetic switching in ac current as you whistle behind it with your spanners and pliers and marlboro in your mouth..
@John R
WHEN HE GETS HIS MUTANT SUPERPOWER!
you wanna try building them offshore..100 metre towers.....you get seasick when you are in the hub....all that swaying around like being in a fkcuin washing machine
outside my window, rather far away in the distance are a couple of wind turbines. to be honest, watching them turn gently, embedded in the rich fauna of the landscape really relaxes me. they symbolize energy , human progress and sustainability. the only symptoms they made manifest i could think of, is procrastination, as the hypnotizing turning often made me wander off into daydreams instead of working on uni stuff.
I think the bottom line is that misinformation is contagious and every single one of us are "carriers" in some way. You will never be correct about everything, but realizing that you may be mistaken is very hard for people to do. The best way to fight this disease is through humility; admitting that you are wrong when presented with facts rather than doubling down on your ideas.
Great video, as always!
It might sound like "alternate facts" talk.
But when people present something as "fact" and it goes against what I have observed, I am immediately suspicious if that is "fact" at all.
But just in case, for some events talked about as fact, I try to research, I then find often find counter arguments, with evidence, with different facts. In cases where I am certain, I once again feel like I was proved right in my perceiving unsubstantiated claims.
But I am still skeptical of both sides sometimes. So I ask in those cases, who is actually right?
To really know, sometimes you have to be an expert in the subject.
But between lack of consensus between even experts in some fields, and the inability to ever learn everything, even with infinite time as the encyclopedia grows faster then you can read it, to make it a short story. Being absolutely sure of the truth is impossible.
Is all information disinformation, or is there only one objective truth amoungst the millions of books and ways of thinking and none of them describe it in full anyway? And you just can't know which is which?
Humility isn't enough, put simply. Unless you believe nothing. If you must believe in something to get by in life, you will likely believe something that is wrong. For whatever definition of wrong we use.
If you understand that, then you are in the boat I feel I'm in, finding something to believe in, and yet everything is likely wrong, so the only way to believe in something, is to lie to myself. And I find that impossible, if I know what I believe is wrong and a lie, I am not actually believing it.
So much of our first world society is represented by this story...
More society in the whole. It's humanity, really.
In Brazil's Northeast Region (one of the poorest areas in the country), nearly *90%* of their electricity is generated by wind power. There are no reports of wind turbine-related illness. I guess they have better things to do, such as working very hard to earn a living.
Nah its even worse in undeveloped nations.
People who "Love"Nature are cretins,Nature is something to be understood not loved,I would take all these Nature lover's Strip them of all there modern comforts and Drop them in the Middle of the Rain Forrest and see how long their love of nature lasts
@@leebennett4117
Burn the forest down, just get these mosquitoes off of me.
I had some issues when I was on Holliday's with a wind turbine next to my apartment
But my issue was the obnoxious sound it made all day and especially all night that stopped me from sleeping
Eventually that poor sleep could lead to endocrine problems or exacerbate an underlying health condition due to affecting hormone production of the brain etc. Some of us are very sensitive to these things. People with genetic mutations particularly, who otherwise would never have known they had any genetic difference under normal circumstances.
It's interesting how people don't like the viev of wind turbines. I mean i always thought they looked extremly cool in the fields.
It's like the windmills from the past but looking more modern. they kinda make you feel like you live in the future
Exactly. Coal/Gas plants look dystopian by comparison.
Honestly in Uruguay, I live a good 80-100km away from (what I think is) the field this was filmed in and let me tell you, there's nothing cooler than looking at the horizon at night and seeing 20-30 blinking red lights from these things
Maybe people prefer the subtle lines of a coal fired power plant?
I've got some in my near by hills and they make me feel like I'm in a Ghibli movie.
This issue has now evolved into 5G cell signal "truthers"
OMG my mom believed that one. *smh*
Chelsea Older Past tense a good sign?
@@TheLOLGINGER over two decades of actual scientific studies and case notes have proven otherwise. Keep your tin foil hat on though, helps us identify the uninformed.
@@TheLOLGINGER Cellular signal effects on humans has been studied and documented since around '94 on hundreds of thousands of patients across multiple countries. In case you aren't able to calculate that, it's been over 26 years of studies. Your statement of nothing being safe doesn't contribute anything to the conversation. The fear mongering is exactly why this video had to be created in the first place.
@@TheLOLGINGER LOL!!! Okay, keep subscribing to those Q Anon forums if gargling conspiracy theories makes you feel special and unique. Move to a deserted island already if you're so afraid of existing in a society or being anywhere near technology. Get off of youtube and put your money where your mouth is.
It's interesting how a trained scientist can STILL allow personal bias to affect their conclusions.
Needless to say, asking specifically for people who claim that wind turbines made them sick to come forward and be interviewed is what is known as a "skewed sample".
Funny how I seem to have many of these symptoms and the nearest wind turbine is about 200 Km away. Those turbines are sneaky! It couldn't possibly have anything to do with my age, right?
This video does make me sick. It makes me sick that someone who is (supposedly) educated would allow their own animus towards wind turbines to literally make people sick.
By the way I enjoyed the footage of the turbines. It seems very peaceful and it's nice to be able to look at wide open spaces, even if I can't go there in person. Thank you for this.
I know health care professionals who believe Trump over science regarding Covid-19. Get your head around that one. Ppl, at least some of them, are easily deceived.
It is mostly only in your mind. Most of these discomforts are things we usually learn to live with, but now that you have seen this video, it is harder to leave those thoughts alone. It is on par with saying to you "Whatever you do, do not think about pink elephants or purple toads." ;-)
"It's interesting how a trained scientist can STILL allow personal bias to affect their conclusions."
This is a phenomenon called the bias blind spot. Be careful, though - we need to ensure that malicious people don't use it to discredit scientific research in general. The approach to it can't be black and white, as black and white thinking is also problematic. Instead, good peer review, controls, and replication of results is how we need to fight this.
It's not like they were actually trying to do science. They had a cause to push and looked for things to back it up.
They also could have asked those who had an encounter with Jesus, Aliens or Supernatural Powers to come forward. I bet the numbers would not differ much.
Dude. U are in uruguay?we uruguayans are always amazed when people choose to come here hehe.
love ur videos!
You live in a beautiful place! I’m from Connecticut, USA and have been there twice. I stayed in Montevideo and out in the country. ❤️🇺🇾❤️
The story of how bias entered science and ruined it for the rest of us.
“Nature person” against renewable energy is like animal rights activist who encourages dog fighting.
Animal shelters kill hundreds of "unwanted" animals daily. This is done for the love of animals.
Is wind energy really green though? Wouldnt be suprised if net carbon outbut barely breaks even after 15years and they stop working after 20
@@Doubledunk It depends of the cost of the materials, for example the carbon footprint made in the making of a solar panel is big enough that it pretty much evens out with the energy the panel will end creating so it is questionable if it is green.
Thus we have to ask ourselves if the making of the wind turbine is not on the same spot.
@@Doomroar that's why we need to adapt to it faster, it the economic of scale
Nuclear power: Chuchu motherfuckers!
Your title will bring a lot of people who believe in this sickness. Haters gonna hate.
Edit: Omg Rare Earth replied to me! Hello from Ontario
Good that they be forced to confront reality.
@@RareEarthSeries ...sadly, it doesn't work. You cannot combat the bias blind spot with facts - it actually has an adverse effect in terms of addressing fallacious behavior.
@Rare Earth I take a sleeping pill that may or may not work. It helps me fall asleep, but I don't think it does that for a biological reason. NyQuil has real knockout drugs in it, but the pill I take probably doesn't. The reason the pill works is, in all likelihood, because of the placebo effect. It works because I expect it to work, and I expect it to work because of the placebo effect.
Turn this on its head. If someone believes in windmill sickness, they can know how it works and still be sick. They will get sick because that's what they expect, and even if they know why they are getting sick, they still expect to be sick.
@@MrDood-le8mn The placebo effect only works if you believe in it, if you dont believe your sleeping pill actually works, it wouldnt work if it's actually just a placebo.
@@MrSHADEKILLA No. Recent research shows that the placebo effect still works even when people know it's a placebo. The mind is weird.
Thank you for reminding me of this disease.
Just like I was diagnosed with depression like 3 years ago, I forgotten about it.
Your mind can sometimes be your worst enemy,. Face your fears, y'all
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While touring a college, a very charismatic instructor for a class on wind energy showed me the basics on how wind turbines work and how great they can be for the environment, and when I see turbines now I think of the instructor and wish I took that class tbh. I think it would have been a very rewarding field to work in
"Alternative thinkers" :o What a diplomatic way to call these people, I love it :)
Alternative sanity holders...a polite way to say nuts...
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This whole thing made me think about how people are associating 5G with the COVID pandemic
It makes about the same amount of sense: NONE!!
YEP !!
5G and Covid or mainstream news and irrational covid panic?
Two separate threats
Or corona beer
Damn you, Sir! I contracted a severe case of Typhoid Nocebo with a cachectic dash of Psychosomatic Suggestibility
, because of your video. On a side note, the wind turbines have other issues regarding their noise levels when their close to homes (especially at night) and the windmills long-term sustainability among others. Then again, nothing is perfect, there will always be a compromise.
I've never been able to get close enough to one to hear it. They're are drowned out by nearby trees, bushes, and traffic noise. I've heard recordings, and I find the sound quite pleasant. I could sleep to that, as long as it's just the windage through the blades, without any kind of "clanking" sound.
@@vincentrobinette1507 It´s infrasounds that is a problem..
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I've been a wind technician for about 9 years, they are really coop machines!
According to many utilities, they are considered "negative load" due to the randomness of the wind. To be considered true "coop", They would need to be paired with electrical energy storage, so the power can be supplied on demand,(dispatchable) not just when the wind happens to be blowing.
I need a turbine outside my house!
I, recently, drove through Texas and Colorado and each time I saw a turbine field I would get a sense of euphoria and happiness.
I mean, how wonderful to create energy from the wind!
I often use those memories when I need a boost.
Seriously, I think the turbines are awesome! :)
You are noz alone. I could watch them for hours with good weather and a good cup of tea.
During the day they're interesting. At night, if you've never driven through the Midwest at night before and can't put two and two together to realize what they are...holy crap all the lights freak you out. I thought I was driving through a secret military base or something.
@@roguishpaladin they are testing a new secret technology that creates power out of thin air!
Take a walk around the base of one some day. You might be surprised at the number of dead birds you'll find.
@@rrudydedogg3779 Yes, sadly some birds are killed by wind turbines. Domestic cats kill a multiple of this amount every year, but I've never heard anyone complain about that.
Exactly the same thing that causes "Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity Disorder", except the noicebo is radio waves rather than wind turbines.
Don't tell those people that the light they use to see is electromagnetic, and thousands of times more energetic than a radio wave.
I like the term, "Noicebo".
Noice.
I remember an eddie murphy movie where that was the big villain. The movie was funny, but the EHD science was cringy.
electromagnetic hypersensitivity is chuckanery
Our store, which sells cell phones, has to carry a sign saying Some people think it might be trouble. That’s the City of Berkeley. Of course we have an enormous WiFi signal in there too.
Well put, sir!
This is going on the extra credit list for my high school classes!
Thank you! Stay safe!
I live in Germany near 18 of these. Various years of construction, various sizes. Since 1997.
We experience zero effects on our health.
Ich bin Freiburger
I would go down to the New Jersey coast a lot growing up and I always remembered the wind turbines as a pleasant piece of the scenery and a representation of being in sync with nature; something like an idea of progress. Its strange to me that they could be so scary.
Yeah for real! Especially when the alternative is burning coal...
uperdown0 I know I love wind turbines
Seeing a neat line of wind turbines and using them as a guide when taking a photo always create an interesting composition.
Probably the same or a similar reason to why some people don't like clowns.
an idea of progress? lol we wont truly progress until we start going nuclear... wind and solar are way to inefficient take up to much material and harm to much wild life. we arent saving the planet by using these renewable energies we are just hurting it.
The irony a fossil fuel power plant can actually make you sick.
@Kyle not wrong
@Kyle Air and water pollution. Particularly Coal Fired Power Plants. Read this..."Impact of Coal-fired Power Plant Emissions on Children’s Health: A Systematic Review of the Epidemiological Literature" www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6604200/
@Kyle idiot
Kyle not wrong. Non scientific but I live in a small community along a river, the power plant is on one side with half the population and the other half is downwind. Everybody knows it's caused health problems from the pollution.
Who knows, fossil fuel might not be fossil but mineral after all
This is one the most interesting videos I have ever watched. I knew about psychosomatics and how it’s done through information , but this has a range of implications
Dude! I discovered your channel two days ago through this video! Why the hell didn't I discover you before?! Watched most Balkan episodes, some Japan episodes and some others, and I'm utterly blown away by the quality and intenseness!
I consider 6 to be my "lucky" number. Kinda spooky you said 6 instead 7.. when showing a sign of 7. Was that mistake? or is my lucky number lead me to making this comment and getting a youtube heart?
They commented 7 hours ago
@@blueraspberrylemonade32 And I see your reply was posted 3 hours ago when Yeetles Law posted 10 hours ago. 10-3=7.
@@blueraspberrylemonade32 I'm reading your comment 7 hours after you posted it
Reading this at 5:27. Illuminati confirmed.
Listen Mary, people are sheeple. I figured that out for sure over 20 years ago when a friend and I, bored with being 18 and wondering how smart our group of friends really were, we made up a guy. Just made up a person, we called him Jim and then with no back story for him, not anything resembling details, nothing but a name and how great he was and how much fun we had hanging out with him and we just started throwing comments out when with our other friends. Not even talking to anyone but each other, we'd say , damn man I was just thinking about Jim earlier, I miss that guy so much. Just an occasional mention... It was truly astonishing as it took less than a week, and we heard the first one of our friends fall into our trap, then another as they would start also bringing up Jim. They also missed him and wondered when he'd be back. No one noticed we hadn't even said he'd gone anywhere, like I said, no details, to the point Jim wasn't even believable as an imaginary friend for a child packing in creativity.
So, like I said, sheeple. You say something enough, mention someone or something enough and some percentage of the people listening will buy in, even of it leaves them missing a friend that they never actually met because they never existed in the first place. 🙃😉
So, aahhhh.... Jen! Whatda ya hear from ... I mean what's Jim been up to lately? I havnt heard from him lately, thought you might have...
@@paulryan2128 Be gentle, Paul. Jen is grieving because Jim came down with the wind cancer. I went and saw him the other day and things are not so good.
I have work for you. Spin doctoring is hell but it pays well 😃.
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The feeling after you watch a video about something that's fake that you clicked on because you might not have known if it was real. So you feel like it was a waste of time, but the video is actually about how it's fake, and then in the video you are told that this "sickness" is now spread more because you watched the video. Now you feel even more like you shouldn't have watched it as it really wasn't worth knowing that some people felt something because of them believing in something that's also fake. But it gets worse because you might say something about this to someone else and you might share the video. Now more people are sick not because they believe but sick because they know their time is gone and this fake condition with real symptoms has no bearing on anything and they know you sent it to them. They might be the type to share this sadness or to spread the misery.
Thankyou
I saw the title and I rolled my eyes. I was expecting an anti-wind farm video. I decided to watch it anyway and I was pleasantly surprised.
FeelFroggyJump same :)
"Alternative Thinkers" - Yep. Gonna steal that
They're taking the alternative to think.
@@somedragontoslay2579 I really like "Alternatives to Thinking" xD
It's thinking using "alternative facts" from "alternative media"
The footage of Uruguay on this video is so beautiful... So serene.... So peaceful. I know this is unrelated to the topic but I always really enjoy the drone shots in the videos. Uruguay just shot up a few spots in my travel list.
It is as you describe. You are always welcome here :)
Love your videos. Belief is based on reality and then molds a new one. Placebo effects are as real as physics. There are so many different kinds of wind turbine syndromes.
As an uruguayan citizen, I invite you all to stop for a minute and appreciate the beauty of Uruguay portrayed in this video! 😍
Since I am early, just leaving a message to say I love your content!
Alright, time to watch the video now.
I love windmills, they're like a monument of humans sustainable energy. It feels like the sort of thing future civilisations would see and be like 'woah, look at these energy monuments'
I like the aesthetic of wind turbines
Yeah they're pretty monumental when they only last 15 years and no one will tear them down once they stop.
Wind mills utilize mill stones to grind grains into flour.
You’re brainwashed... they don’t work when the wind is not blowing and it takes a lot digging up the earth for metals.
lol, if they last more than 2 decades. even Chernobyl made of concrete won't last, perhaps the elephant foot is the only thing that will surely remember us, a monument to our time.
In the same way that people can focus on a need to feel poorly, the mind can also cause the body to feel well! Some people even do this!
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You guys do an outstanding, amazing job.
The way I see it?
By watching the video, more people are innoculated against the mind-virus than are infected.
An antimemetic agent
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First time hearing about this, really weird thing. I didn't even knew that people found wind turbines to be visually annoying, I find them kinda hypnotic to look at.
I had never seen a wind turbine for most of my life. The first time I did was in an alpine valley while i was in vacation. The vista was absolutely stunning, and the turbines made it way, way better. What would've been only nature before, now was nature with a moving sculpture to humankind's attempt at synergizing with the natural world. White, clean, sleek and majestic.
for real. There is no accounting for taste, but i think they're pretty, personally.
In some areas they used strobe lights as markers on them to ward off aircraft or whatever. When you have an area with dozens of bright blinking lights, that can be annoying at night. The ones with glowing red markers don't have that problem.
The only other thing I could think of is being downrange and into the shadow during sunrise or sunset. Because then you'd also get a strobing effect with the sunlight as the blades move.
Other than that, they seem just fine.
I always become happy when I see these things
They're like giant pinwheels, that happen to generate power.
Nice work bro I really love your stuff. Only just recently discovered you and I'm happy I did
I love that you referenced the 1985 Episode of Frontline that features the experiment with brown eye'd and blue eye'd children, which is actually an experiment that was meant to combat racism and did in those children by the end.
This sounds like something from an SCP entry. A Memetic disease
have you seen a black cat lately?
i thought it was called psychosomantic
ChubbyEmu title: A psychologist had a wind turbine installed in her backyard, this is what happened to Australia's brain.
I'm surrounded. Wind turbines were built all around my rural home....when I moved here there were none. I can tell you this: I hate them. I hate living near them. I'm up right now 11pm and I can hear the one they built closest to my house...INSIDE my house. I moved here and built an energy-efficient 900 square foot strawbale house. It was my dream. I had found heaven in the peaceful, rural atmosphere. Now the horizons look dystopic....dotted with hundreds of giant white, spinning, noisy machines. It used to be just the sound of the birds and breeze in the trees....now I seldom have a single day without the noisy turbine, steadily strumming away...it's LOUD. They get tax breaks, meanwhile, my property taxes went up over 70% in one year after the turbines were built within sight of my house! Talk about insult to injury. Yes. I absolutely hate the #blattnerenergy turbines here in #millscountytexas I'm heartbroken and struggle with bitterness every day due to this situation.
The Dutch have had windmills for hundreds of years and I’m almost sure this illness doesn’t occur in the Netherlands 🇳🇱.
Hush now. Troublemaker.
We used to have a windmill that pumped all the drinking water for the farm. I don't think these high priced, high maintenance wheels operate quite the same.
True, but those were not generating electricity or spinning so quickly. It's a bogus illness, but old windmills is not the strongest argument against them.
Unfortunately we have such idiots in the Netherlands as well.
I'm on the winning side Explain the high maintenance. Please do not ridicule things you do not know.
I slept somewhere in Kansas in my truck for a night or two night and 1 wind turbine several miles away drove me freaking crazy. I didn't know there were turbines anywhere near where I was but a low grumbling caused me not to sleep all night and I discovered the turbine over a couple hills as I continued my trip towards the East. I was a disbeliever myself but after that experience I'm hear to tell you it really is a sleep disrupter.
Rare Earth's videos are always top notch in information and quality.
I agree and nice to meet you again.
That's why I subscribed.
@@alistairlee7604 yeah same here
Anyone who catches this “affliction” from your video is already afflicted with a substandard intellect.
I really like the view of a wind turbine in nature. For me, it's the symbol of enviromentalism and the strive for green energy.
to answer all your questions:
being stupid is not ilegal. I wish it was, but its not. hell, it might make you president.
Spreading stupid can be made illegal.
@@TacticusPrime it shouldn't be. silencing stupid opinions makes those opinions seem like they have something behind it. if they're stupid, they're easily disproved, so disprove them and convince people. if you let people in power silence people, the rules made to silence others will inevitably be used to silence you
@@natalyst Agreed. Ridicule, sarcasm, satire and humor are better at exposing the foolishness of frightened people who have no critical thinking skills.
illegal* but I get your point. To me it's the fundamental flaw of democracy. It's impossible to eradicate stupidity yet every vote matters. Stupid people have as much of a say in politics as intelligent people. But stupid people are far, far, far less likely to have a political opinion rationally based. They are subject to manipulation. From people they know and from people who campaign for election. The whole point of a democratic system is to give the general public a say in politics. To reflect their own interests in the state. But the problem is, too many people don't know what they want. And that's the sad truth. All you need is a politician to tell you what you want, tell you what you want to hear and manipulate you into believing they reflect your interests. Democracies don't reflect the interests of the majority, it's simply a system to trick people into thinking they are reflecting their interests. But to speak out against it, you would be declaring that people are stupid and can't think for themselves. Which is completely true for a lot of people, at least in terms of politics, but would obviously be shot down in the time of social correctness where everybody is a special flower and everybody needs to be protected from criticism. Maybe, the governments wanted this... By protecting the idiots from criticism they are essentially protecting their ability to ignore the purpose of democracy. I don't know, maybe I am just a cynical bastard, but I think we are seeing an increasing trend worldwide of morons being manipulated to vote for things that don't support their best interests. How do I know I am not one of the twats I speak of? Well, I don't. But I did study politics and political theory and focused my final thesis on the democratic lie so I think I am in a position to criticize.
I mean there is no easy solution, but one way to start would be a better education system. Schools are still teaching religion while politics and health are not mandatory. There is a reason that in the majority of democratic nations, few feel it necessary to educate their population on politics and their national political system. The more politically ignorant your population, the easier they are to manipulate. And yes, politics is everything in this discussion. People who are irrational towards vaccines, windmills, 5G and that sort of stuff, tend to have irrational political opinions too. What fuels all of those communities is the same thing. Fear, mistrust and conspiracies. The more people understand their country and how it is governed, the less fear and conspiracies float around. But good luck extending political education. If that happens, people might not be so quick to forgive the state for all of its many misdoings.
That doesn't answer the question about the purposely misleading energy companies.
It still feels weird getting ads for Evans dads masterclass before these videos.
XD
I wish I got more masterclass adds, the ones I get are lame
Hey, you can't get much more on topic than a Hadfield in an ad for a Hadfield. Gotta give the CZcams ad targeting some credit for that.
One was recently installed within a couple hundred feet from my house. Before it was installed, in March, I begin having mild-moderate dizziness, and frequent vertigo starting in April. My symptoms are slowly decreasing, and it doesn't seem to affect my symptoms at all. The whirling noise from high winds is a little annoying, but that is it. I'm worried about radiation, if it causes radiation.
But living next to it, hasn't caused any new symptoms that I already had. I believe my symptoms are mostly anxiety related.
I think you have nailed it. I have been in India in an area where wind turbines are abundant and not heard of any cases of sickness attributed to them by the locals.
Thank you so much for expressing this viewpoint. And eventually we can hope to see a scientific study addressing this issue.
Meanwhile we can expect fossil fuel corporations to try to undermine any green technology.
Is it cause they break the air into smaller pieces that arnt good to breathe? Right?
Exactly. They cut up the molecules creating dangerous particles, sometimes even radioactive ones
Pretty sure that's not how physics works, chief. But I'm sure you're only joking.
The air pieces are cut so thinly, they become sharp and end up causing microcuts in your nose, throat and lungs.
How fucking anime doesn't that sound!?
@@gdttdeggegdh5471 - Ha ha ha ha ha! This is along the lines that dinosaurs burst into flames because there was too much oxygen in their atmosphere and with their tiny nostrils they breathed too fast, causing their noses to ignite. That's also where humanity's legends of dragons came from, because humans were around when dinosaurs lived... Was that from Ken Ham? Or somebody worse than him?
I live under 5 miles from hundreds of wind turbines.
I've never heard of this and it makes no sense.
Although a lot of them do leak brake fluid, so if you're underneath them they can burn and really mess with your eyes.
Once you're more than about 10 meters away you're fine.
To be honest, I would have trouble sleeping at night if my house was the next-door neighbour to wind turbines, but that would mostly be caused by the unsteady noise and that a heavy smell of hydraulic fluids might drift by and in through my window.
The idea is that somehow they create a electromagnetic field which messes with the electric field in your body. This is so stupid as it drops off so fast that you probably would have difficulty measuring it even 20 feet away.
@@TrondBrgeKrokli Wind turbines are not loud at all. 100 meters away from the turbine they make the same amount of noise as a mid size window AC unit....like the kind that people install directly into their bedrooms.
At 400 meters away, wind turbines are quieter than the refrigerator in your house.
Does your A/c or refrigerator noise keep you awake too? If not then you're complaint is nonsensical.
I've never experienced any of the hydraulic fluid if I was more than 100 meters away.
You have to basically be directly underneath them.
Your whole argument seems like someone with an agenda.
@@bobhope4288 Not at all, I just imagined living close to a wind turbine as some of those I saw in west-coast Sweden about 2003. I could hear their machinery from 500 meters away (although varying a bit) as if I was standing under it, if they have become less noisy in modern versions.
This was the first time I actually read the end note. Hilarious! Thanks for making your videos.
i love how you take on theese rare topics!
wold you consider halogens and metalic salts or the parasites they so diligently cover up with colorful nomenclature?
i have them all documented and wold gladly share with anyone that has the curiosity to look.
There's more to this when this issue gets interlaced with internet and closed communities.
When you are fine, you don't post on the internet about being fine. When you are feeling bad, you do sometimes post, and you sometimes do research and so you find other people's posts suggesting all sorts of things. One of them gets you. In one of them you believe. Then people form communities around these suggestions and these communities evolve like almost like an auto-imune disease.
A few years ago I got in a rabbit hole of worry over my mother developing "chronic lymes disease" after she was diagnosed with just regular lyme disease (which is gone today).
Long story short it took me MONTHS and one big scary revelation to understand that there is no such thing.
Today I laugh about it and how my mom is doing just fine now that we stopped thinking about this stupid suggestion, but at the time, we both thought it was soon going to be the end of her life, and that wasn't fun.
So please, whenever you grasp an idea, don't immeaditely accept it with all your claws like I and my mom did.
When I lived in NJ, I always saw a big wind turbine in Bayonne. It's almost a hundred feet higher than the Statue of Liberty. And it's in a so out of place location, makes you wonder why it's there. From boats, you see the skyline of NYC, Ellis Island, the Statue of Liberty, and then you see a lone wind turbine. It was a very interesting decision to build one there, it's the first Leitwind (Italian company) wind turbine to be installed in the US.
Maybe it was a test unit for an offshore product, they often do this on land for new types, but next to the ocean, presumably to expose them to the a salty environment but still make access easy for maintenance and monitoring.
I have a small problem with them but not quite the same as this. When driving past huge fields of them, seeing them spinning around can make me dizzy/nauseous if I focus too much on the spinning propellers. It doesn't happen if I'm not driving or in a moving vehicle though and is easily remedied by looking away from the propellers themselves. Standing in front of a field of them is just fine.
I also get motion sickness when riding sideways in vehicles and on carnival rides that move side to side. I have also had a few cases of vertigo in the past where an inner ear infection caused me to wake up feeling extremely dizzy as if I was falling but that is completely unrelated to wind turbines.
I don't have an issue with wind turbines being installed in places for alternative energy so long as they are placed in appropriate locations where there is enough wind for them to generate power and definitely wouldn't be protesting against them just because I get dizzy from looking at the spinning propellers while driving. Heck, looking at a bunch of those spinning pinwheel toys will do the same thing if they are big enough and I'm driving past them.
In my case it isn't so much the turbines making me sick, it's a form of motion sickness.
I wonder if some of these people initially had an issue like mine, but then got more psychosomatic issues after hearing her claims?
Speaking about the suggestibility of classroom children, there is a genre of scientific literature going back to the '70s dealing with the suggestibility of teachers : the tendency of a teacher to create a reality in the classroom according to his/her preconceived ideas
You guys are awesome. This is such an important message and so well said. This can apply to the internet in full.. An echo chamber of viral dangerous information, disguised as 'wellness'.
this reminds me of roko's basilisk
google at risk of having your life artificially extended or revived so you may be tortured forever as punishment.
Rationalists are goofy, never change
Not quite the same, but close enough
'Wind turbines cause typhoid' at the very end cracked me up!!! 🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣
'Effects of low-frequency noise from wind turbines on heart rate variability in healthy individuals'
Chun-Hsiang Chiu et al, published in Nature in 2021. Infrasound can cause strange effects, especially making people feel uneasy.
That's why they turned off the turbines before asking the health questions, to determine if it was due to an unheard frequency or just psychosomatic
Time to walk around talking about how much I love Wind Turbines.
I'm a big fan of the big fans!
Thank you. I live in Hawaii and every time a wind power, solar farm, renewable project comes up, there's always a protest that cites "magical sickness" that is caused by new thing.
Very well put and strikingly true
Thank you, this episode is the best. Helped me a lot in understanding vegans.
they dont realise hundreds of ants killed in getting vegetables to the market
The Hippocrates
Almost didn’t click because I thought it was another conspiracy
Same here.
I will always remember that one farm outside town that sold some of their land to the wind farms, within 2 years they sold the place due to the turbines for like 2.5 million, that was about 10 years ago and since then its been bought and sold 3 more times, most recently it sold for like 800k.
I work in the wind industry and I am glad to see that this comment section is for the most part full of rational people. I spend at lease 10 hours a day 5 days a week on wind farms and at lease 8 of those hours a day are spend inside the turbine and it has never made mee sick bar the odd headache from the spell of hydraulic oil.
"Dangerous Blow Jobs" is most certainly my favorite title so far!!
Not that dangerous. You can't even be removed from orifice, er office for that in 'some countries'.
I would rather educate a person to manage misinformation, than try and shut the source. This is how we made more progress in the last 1000 years than the many before it.
Have you tried to argue against any conspiracy theory? It does not matter how good the arguments are or how much proper science/data you throw at them, the info is available for everyone anyway, problem is that they don't trust anything. People with strong beliefs will just come up with more insane explanations for contradicting facts... In their view everyone else is just stupid, brainwashed, etc. and does not understand the secret "truth" that they found. I think it is almost impossible to get out of that loop, especially if you believed something for years and would have to admit that it was totally wrong.
the key is to keep those radicals beneath 15% in every given society. Make every possibility for education accessible until reaching those numbers again and modulate resources acordingly.
like stew suggested.
@jimmyjones05 oh, now I understand!
It's like trying to teach gun nuts about how buyback programs in various have had a proven effect on violent crimes and suicide?
Or explaining to right-wingers that our nation spends more per-person on healthcare than any other country on Earth, yet is not even close to first in healthcare quality, and we could easily support a single-payer healthcare system (the one proven around the world to have better effects on the health of citizens), but refuse to because of lobbyists for pharmaceutical companies paying for politicians' votes?
I think I understand now, so glad you could explain it to me
It's impossible to argue with morons, I doubt even forced re-education would help
@jimmyjones05
Don't push your shitty politics as "common sense". Thank you.
An understanding of Hypnotism gives a very rewarding insight into the workings of the everyday human world.
Virtually all information is completely free. It's on endless platforms.
Everything you hear and see takes on a subtle meaning.
That end there is starting down some "roko's basilisk" route with that whole 'if only you hadn't've watched this because you're a part of the problem now too' bit. lol
Grew up with wind turbines in my home city. They've been there on the other edge of town as long as I remember. They are located near a large sports complex that I went and played soccer at as a kid. Never had a problem with them and I honestly wish we had more of them.
Hah! I am from Ontario, everyday I drive by these turbines along HWY401, I tried to look for my symptoms! I guess I am asymptomatic
Love how you go deeper with your own questions...still in Uruguay?
Best video I have watched in a while