I worked at Stapleford Cemetery as a gravedigger.Stanton & Staveley moulding concrete pipes,2 times Gregory's Roses, Lowes Rose Gardens, a golf course near Bramcote Hills and numerous other jobs and then in 1970 went to Toronto Canada came back and worked 12 hour shifts at Raleigh Cycles to save some money and then went overland to Australia through a dozen countries and never returned . Retired now in Australia after 20 years working in Asia. But I do have wonderful memories now at 70 of the times and girls of Nottingham. What a wonderful documentary that was and the characters of the females.
My grandad was a pipe moulder at Stanton. Worked there all his life and ended up dying there on shift during his 50th year at the company (at the age of 65).
As a 1960 baby born just south of Nottingham this documentary drew my attention and it is interesting to read the many comments from others; my immediate observation though was the diction and relatively mild regional accent of the factory workers, they certainly seemed much more eloquent than I would have expected.
Doo Wah Diddy by Manfred Mann featured in the film with teenagers dancing to it, was released in the UK in July 1964. Based on the lack of tree foliage in the shots of the personnel lady and her husband by the river Trent, you can therefore assume this was filmed in late Autumn 1964. Fascinating stuff regardless.👍🏼
Amazing video!!Ive just witnessed this factory being demolished,all the history from this place is unreal.Many families were supported by the work this place offered.Shame,but life moves on
I love the union lady. She's smart, genuine, and absolutely practical. Little did she know that women would still be fighting for equal pay and opportunities for promotions in 2018.
It was quite topical in some ways but also some of the gains that have been made were through women like her. What an awful job sat there shredding tobacco day in day out. Yet in the soul destroying routine she found the time to get some education, dared to dream.
Diane, You seriously think women today have won no more rights then these ladies? Are you seriously comparing working life for women in the 50s/60s to life prospects for women in 2019?
Slow Sunday in the Jace Allen home? That's a 2 month old comment responding to a 2019 entitled woman named Diane who thinks somehow she has to suffer the same indignities of women 50 years ago, so why are you responding as if the comment was for you? Can you go haunt someone else dear..thanks
My mum worked at Players during the 1950s and 1960s while my sister and I were at school. It makes me sad now to look at this film all these years later and see how bleak it was. I wish I could talk to her about it, but sadly she has been gone for a while now.
Lived in Notts from 1982 for a year or two …loved it, but i can’t remember the beautiful speaking voices of the ladies as depicted in this utube… things have changed!
The UNI qualified personnel manager shares the same traits of the modern UNI graduate i.e. that they have never experienced the working life of the people they deal with and therefore see them as low lives, nothing changes.
I could tell that Irene Fowler was naturally intelligent. That's why she won a scholarship to Nottingham University. But, I've worked alongside employees like Irene, that left school earlier, with few qualifications, but are naturally very intelligent, but couldn't thrive in a school system. On leaving school, they become successful.
I’d been at work elsewhere for a year when this was made. When looking at Top of the Pops from the 60’s I often think about those attractive girls, and in this video, and how the aging process whilst inevitable seems unfair when you go back 60 years.
The accent seems strange to me and Nottingham was my home around this period and for 20 years afterwards. I think a lot of people "posh up" their voice and behaviour on camera. I knew quite a few people as well as my mother who worked at Players and they all gave the impression that it was a happy place to work with good wages and pension scheme.
I agree. I wasn’t born when this was filmed, I was born in 1983. I’m sure accents change but a lot of them don’t even sound like they’re from Nottingham! 😂
@@twinny555 Twinny by the time you were born the UK population was certainly on the move and more and more students after school had the oppourtunities to leave home to different parts of the UK for both work and further education which no doubt diluted regional accents which had subtle variations in the big cities anyway. Fascinating stuff how language changes over time. If we could go back in time to the 1500's we would hardly understand an English speaker! There's some great sites on line if you're interested. Thanks for your input.
I've worked in a place like this............ Alcan Ekco in Chesham.... I'm so glad the site got demolished ... As my work pension got totally fucked up! For what! Stress????
20:43 a dashboard light comes on and there's a click as she approaches the car and opens the door. She gets in, closes the door and the light goes out. This ought not to be possible. This is the 1960's and there should be no remote central locking.
The car was already unlocked. The passenger (husband) opened the door and the light came on as was standard on these cars. The driver (wife) then opened her door and entered.
memories..1966 left school...no desire to work..loved reading in central library...some jobs car wash projectionist harry wheatcroft roses in middle of winter..camera shop...stole picture from nottingham castle museum...lincoln prison then borstal...came out bought a motorcycle..headed for londone.. never went back to nottingham..
They were personnel officers then, not Human Resources. They were concerned with workers well being, and the factories / businesses were paternalistic.
These are the women that helped make it possible for Players to sponsor motorsports for many years. Anybody know where they were getting their tobacco? USA or elsewhere? In retrospect, tobacco firms spent a pile on marketing through motorsports. Here in the US, Winston was a lynchpin sponsor for NASCAR.
Speaking to older people who were employed in these sort of factories I find that the women invariably couldn't wait to meet a man and get married as this would alleviate the monotony of a factory job. Some women I have spoken to saw marriage as a blessing and preferred being a housewife and mother to the noisy fast paced factories
Its all terrible pay and conditions but at the end of the day, higher wages demanded by the unions and foreign competition lost them their jobs. Some would say what was really needed was real change in this country. Total slum clearance, free health care, and they were better off without those sort of jobs and living on a better dole system. Not forgetting better education to start with..!!!
Privileged to work in that factory ,I have watched these docos on the London slums etc these people are me makes me sick I'm so called white and privileged. Great film
Think this film was made by one of those left-wing “angry young men”! Gives a totally wrong impression of working at Players, and I was there for over 30 years. Highest wages in Nottingham, a large annual bonus, a huge athletic and social club. An enlightened and philanthropic employer.
And cheap smokes 👍🏼 I remember loading out of the factory by boots a few years ago and the price of Superkings in the vending machine were to good to pass up
An annual bonus in America is a very rare thing these days. Very few employers give them out anymore. Instead they try to compensate with low-budget Christmas parties and a pat on the back. No thank you, I’ll take the bonus instead.
3:50 she has failed at her job right at the start... Because she is supposed to remain a liaison, instead she used the phrase "the other side" so she's already chosen a "side". She will fail the employees before she's begun.
One Building remains now. What was left. exploring the grounds felt Dystopian. I- Need a Time Machine. Seeing that one remaining building at night- Makes me feel nostalgic! Or somewhat Spooky.
I feel so sorry for that one black woman in this vid 9:00mins , I wonder who she was? I wonder how racist it was at Players, must have pretty bad on top of all the other injustices all of the other women were facing. Both my mum and gran worked at Rolls Royce in this same era, they never spoke about it.
Do you feel legally obliged as a half white woman to bring Racism into this comments section? I think these women were more concerned about equal pay, something you can take for granted in this era. if the company had been Racist, she would not have been working there in the first place.
@John Salvage Just like the people of foreign lands didn't want Britain to invade and steal their land in the name of the empire. You know - that Empire you love to brag about! Britain own fault- steal other counties then complain when the people they colonised for 300 years come to the mother country. SERVE YOU BLOODY RIGHT!
@@insertnamehere5146Probably was racism there - unfortunately it was very common and blatant at the time. To say "there was no racism there otherwise she wouldn't be there" is a bit like saying there was no sexism there otherwise those women wouldn't be there! But they are - and they are complaining about unfair pay - otherwise known as.....? Yes - you guessed it - SEXISM - but that company can't be sexist because it employed women - right?
@@insertnamehere5146 And who knows whether the staff were happy about them employing a person of colour. MANY TIMES the srtaff would shun them - but there can;t be any racism because she's there, right? You guys are so blinkered and white-privileged - your comment is a CLEAR example of it. Don't try and shy away from the existence of racism just because it doesn't affect YOU - Thehoneyeffect was CORRECT to raise that point - especially as - as she pointed out - she directly knows people who suffered from it at that time. Life is bliss when you can just pretend it doesn't exist - right insertnamehere?
Overtime - Overtime, what's Overtime ... Overtime should be voluntary not compulsory, many people would live at work if they could because they are just greedy sods.
No one ever thought about following up to find these people years later . See if they're still alive and what happened to them later in life..
My neighbour worked for players on Bull Close, he told us the machine he worked produced 1 million cigarettes a day! he died with cancer early 80s,.
I love the old British '60s documentaries wish there more
I worked at Stapleford Cemetery as a gravedigger.Stanton & Staveley moulding concrete pipes,2 times Gregory's Roses, Lowes Rose Gardens, a golf course near Bramcote Hills and numerous other jobs and then in 1970 went to Toronto Canada came back and worked 12 hour shifts at Raleigh Cycles to save some money and then went overland to Australia through a dozen countries and never returned . Retired now in Australia after 20 years working in Asia. But I do have wonderful memories now at 70 of the times and girls of Nottingham. What a wonderful documentary that was and the characters of the females.
My grandad was a pipe moulder at Stanton. Worked there all his life and ended up dying there on shift during his 50th year at the company (at the age of 65).
@@sawleyram7405 Sorry. That is so sad.
My Grandad was a grave digger as well
The woman trade union rep is brilliant, we need more people like here today
I love the honesty of this. Nobody would be this honest in a documentary filmed at work now!
This definitely has the 'Saturday night ,Sunday morning ' movie vibe
As a 1960 baby born just south of Nottingham this documentary drew my attention and it is interesting to read the many comments from others; my immediate observation though was the diction and relatively mild regional accent of the factory workers, they certainly seemed much more eloquent than I would have expected.
These people were really hard workers bless them
Great post. The union rep is an amazing woman and the lass from personnel can tick me off anytime.
Doo Wah Diddy by Manfred Mann featured in the film with teenagers dancing to it, was released in the UK in July 1964.
Based on the lack of tree foliage in the shots of the personnel lady and her husband by the river Trent, you can therefore assume this was filmed in late Autumn 1964.
Fascinating stuff regardless.👍🏼
Thank you Sherlock. 👍👍
Amazing video!!Ive just witnessed this factory being demolished,all the history from this place is unreal.Many families were supported by the work this place offered.Shame,but life moves on
I love the union lady. She's smart, genuine, and absolutely practical. Little did she know that women would still be fighting for equal pay and opportunities for promotions in 2018.
It was quite topical in some ways but also some of the gains that have been made were through women like her. What an awful job sat there shredding tobacco day in day out. Yet in the soul destroying routine she found the time to get some education, dared to dream.
Diane, You seriously think women today have won no more rights then these ladies? Are you seriously comparing working life for women in the 50s/60s to life prospects for women in 2019?
I doubt many of these women got to exotic places for their holidays on their wages. How was Florence in Italy by the way?
@@insertnamehere5146 Never said that the situation hasn't improved just that it's not fully equal yet
Slow Sunday in the Jace Allen home? That's a 2 month old comment responding to a 2019 entitled woman named Diane who thinks somehow she has to suffer the same indignities of women 50 years ago, so why are you responding as if the comment was for you? Can you go haunt someone else dear..thanks
Born and bred in the Meadows in the early 60s and proud of it, mi duck.
My mum worked at Players during the 1950s and 1960s while my sister and I were at school. It makes me sad now to look at this film all these years later and see how bleak it was. I wish I could talk to her about it, but sadly she has been gone for a while now.
Lived in Notts from 1982 for a year or two …loved it, but i can’t remember the beautiful speaking voices of the ladies as depicted in this utube… things have changed!
Nottingham born and bread and Proud, great time capsule, a time machine back to the 60's.
Whatever happen to the women in the film, it would be very interesting to know.
They went up in smoke.
Loved the sixties
Brilliant, thanks.
Long before i was born interesting video thank you so much
The UNI qualified personnel manager shares the same traits of the modern UNI graduate i.e. that they have never experienced the working life of the people they deal with and therefore see them as low lives, nothing changes.
Same in the U.S.
I could tell that Irene Fowler was naturally intelligent. That's why she won a scholarship to Nottingham University. But, I've worked alongside employees like Irene, that left school earlier, with few qualifications, but are naturally very intelligent, but couldn't thrive in a school system. On leaving school, they become successful.
I have a 35mm film advert, "people love players" needs to be seen, free to someone..
The woman in the trade union is only 40 ... my goodness!
Seems like a nice woman though.
My ex’s father got me a summer job in the cafeteria there one year. My relatives liked the free cigarettes. It was actually a good place to work.
The trade Union lady wanted equality but then thanked her husband for giving his consent allowing her to do trade Union work.
Love the train union lady.
Working ten hours a day five and half days a week.
ahhhh those early days of our slavery
Very interesting to watch !!!!!!
I’d been at work elsewhere for a year when this was made. When looking at Top of the Pops from the 60’s I often think about those attractive girls, and in this video, and how the aging process whilst inevitable seems unfair when you go back 60 years.
The accent seems strange to me and Nottingham was my home around this period and for 20 years afterwards. I think a lot of people "posh up" their voice and behaviour on camera. I knew quite a few people as well as my mother who worked at Players and they all gave the impression that it was a happy place to work with good wages and pension scheme.
I’m from Glasgow and my grandmother had her posh telephone voice 😂 but she was certainly not posh at most times
I agree. I wasn’t born when this was filmed, I was born in 1983. I’m sure accents change but a lot of them don’t even sound like they’re from Nottingham! 😂
@@twinny555 Twinny by the time you were born the UK population was certainly on the move and more and more students after school had the oppourtunities to leave home to different parts of the UK for both work and further education which no doubt diluted regional accents which had subtle variations in the big cities anyway. Fascinating stuff how language changes over time. If we could go back in time to the 1500's we would hardly understand an English speaker! There's some great sites on line if you're interested. Thanks for your input.
I've worked in a place like this............ Alcan Ekco in Chesham.... I'm so glad the site got demolished ... As my work pension got totally fucked up! For what! Stress????
i wonder what became of the beautiful blonde girl
If you sat on the bosses lap and made the right noises, that was your chance of an upgrade.
Brilliant👍
The Nottingham accent was stronger then ,so much more diluted now
Factory work was hard, however you earned more than salesladies and office workers.
Lived in Radford,Mum hung the washing out ,it stank of tobacco when brought in .
i love it so much
Doors locked?
Common practice in those days, I'm afraid, until a series of deadly fires made it law to have unclocked fire exits.
Shocking. It’s a kind of imprisonment.
My god we've come no further
20:43 a dashboard light comes on and there's a click as she approaches the car and opens the door. She gets in, closes the door and the light goes out.
This ought not to be possible. This is the 1960's and there should be no remote central locking.
The car was already unlocked. The passenger (husband) opened the door and the light came on as was standard on these cars. The driver (wife) then opened her door and entered.
There's a jib between East and West, ie, men and women, things in circumstance, that year 1960s, now 2021, a whole new world.
❤
Anyone rember when the fountains were instaled in slab square? And how the water went blue when a copoer got thrown in? 😂
memories..1966 left school...no desire to work..loved reading in central library...some jobs car wash projectionist harry wheatcroft roses in middle of winter..camera shop...stole picture from nottingham castle museum...lincoln prison then borstal...came out bought a motorcycle..headed for londone.. never went back to nottingham..
My gosh --- no personnel officer today would be called on to do social work. Not in my experience, anyway.
but it is commendable that she did it...
They were personnel officers then, not Human Resources. They were concerned with workers well being, and the factories / businesses were paternalistic.
The young blonde woman I bet was an actress.. Very posh voice slipping through, not the management one.. who loves to say she works for the management
There is a bit of posh in there for sure 👍🏼
111 he’s back ♟
Jill hates that place.
Hyson green Radford Nottingham, born n bred
You went to players,boots,Raleigh ,or Drury and Edward's or Bastows
These are the women that helped make it possible for Players to sponsor motorsports for many years. Anybody know where they were getting their tobacco? USA or elsewhere? In retrospect, tobacco firms spent a pile on marketing through motorsports. Here in the US, Winston was a lynchpin sponsor for NASCAR.
At last scientist have found something that can do the work of 10 men...... 1 woman!
Nottingham accent sounded different back then meh duck 🦆
My beloved city has been ruined by inept councillors.
I'm surprised at how well articulated were,considering the fact that education was very limited or non existant in some cases.
Society has been dumbed down
Education was much better. My mother went to college as a mature student and became a teacher in the school that Players local workers kids went to.
looked so much healthier bk then. teeth aren't so jacked up
Speaking to older people who were employed in these sort of factories I find that the women invariably couldn't wait to meet a man and get married as this would alleviate the monotony of a factory job. Some women I have spoken to saw marriage as a blessing and preferred being a housewife and mother to the noisy fast paced factories
Im a HCA and lve been under paid 2000 year for 15 years management new all along whats so disgusting I work for the NHS
Its all terrible pay and conditions but at the end of the day, higher wages demanded by the unions and foreign competition lost them their jobs. Some would say what was really needed was real change in this country. Total slum clearance, free health care, and they were better off without those sort of jobs and living on a better dole system. Not forgetting better education to start with..!!!
I agree, these jobs were shit. no one would want their kids doing this sort of jobs these days.
What new jobs?
Privileged to work in that factory ,I have watched these docos on the London slums etc these people are me makes me sick I'm so called white and privileged. Great film
I'm American, been checking the mail box for my white privilege for years! Working class,living paycheck to paycheck, isn't privilege
Think this film was made by one of those left-wing “angry young men”! Gives a totally wrong impression of working at Players, and I was there for over 30 years. Highest wages in Nottingham, a large annual bonus, a huge athletic and social club. An enlightened and philanthropic employer.
And cheap smokes 👍🏼 I remember loading out of the factory by boots a few years ago and the price of Superkings in the vending machine were to good to pass up
An annual bonus in America is a very rare thing these days. Very few employers give them out anymore. Instead they try to compensate with low-budget Christmas parties and a pat on the back. No thank you, I’ll take the bonus instead.
@@handsoffmycactus2958 truth.
Are you a bloke? If you are then you are not qualified to speak.
It was good for you because you where a male employee.
Human Resources is there for the employer. They pay their wages.
3:50 she has failed at her job right at the start... Because she is supposed to remain a liaison, instead she used the phrase "the other side" so she's already chosen a "side". She will fail the employees before she's begun.
Dead right, CD 1! That's exactly what I thought. Wouldn't tell that woman ANYTHING!
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@@mrpeters8947 well in
God save the governing class thankyou your lordship an your Earl shit
bob a lob
One Building remains now.
What was left.
exploring the grounds felt Dystopian.
I- Need a Time Machine.
Seeing that one remaining building at night- Makes me feel nostalgic!
Or somewhat Spooky.
it was alright making them as long as it was not you smoking them cancer sticks mmmmmm
I feel so sorry for that one black woman in this vid 9:00mins , I wonder who she was? I wonder how racist it was at Players, must have pretty bad on top of all the other injustices all of the other women were facing. Both my mum and gran worked at Rolls Royce in this same era, they never spoke about it.
Do you feel legally obliged as a half white woman to bring Racism into this comments section? I think these women were more concerned about equal pay, something you can take for granted in this era. if the company had been Racist, she would not have been working there in the first place.
@John Salvage Just like the people of foreign lands didn't want Britain to invade and steal their land in the name of the empire. You know - that Empire you love to brag about! Britain own fault- steal other counties then complain when the people they colonised for 300 years come to the mother country. SERVE YOU BLOODY RIGHT!
@@insertnamehere5146Probably was racism there - unfortunately it was very common and blatant at the time. To say "there was no racism there otherwise she wouldn't be there" is a bit like saying there was no sexism there otherwise those women wouldn't be there! But they are - and they are complaining about unfair pay - otherwise known as.....? Yes - you guessed it - SEXISM - but that company can't be sexist because it employed women - right?
@@insertnamehere5146 And who knows whether the staff were happy about them employing a person of colour. MANY TIMES the srtaff would shun them - but there can;t be any racism because she's there, right? You guys are so blinkered and white-privileged - your comment is a CLEAR example of it. Don't try and shy away from the existence of racism just because it doesn't affect YOU - Thehoneyeffect was CORRECT to raise that point - especially as - as she pointed out - she directly knows people who suffered from it at that time. Life is bliss when you can just pretend it doesn't exist - right insertnamehere?
@@insertnamehere5146 BTW - look at the comment from John Salvage. see the ignorance - don't be like that dickhead
Overtime - Overtime, what's Overtime ... Overtime should be voluntary not compulsory, many people would live at work if they could because they are just greedy sods.
Factory is m, and the all EWG ist so. Fake
A lot of work to assist people in killing themselves by smoking
Such ignorance of business and economics coming from the trade union woman and the others. Shameful 🤨
Easy to say 60 years after the event.