What you miss by playing Persona 3 Portable over FES
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2022
- Just a little collection of animations that I wish could be on portable.
While I overall like the PSP version of P3 better I feel like the game loses a lot of flair by not having the 3d overworld, which simple as it may be had a lot of interesting visual details that gave the characters and the world more personality - Hry
Elaborating on what I wrote on the description, I love little details like having Ken, the kid that's desperate to prove to other people how mature he is, drink from a big ass black coffee mug when he's hanging out on the dorm, or how when you catch the main characters eating there it's always prepackaged food since there's no one but Shinji on the entire dorm who knows how to cook.
Another detail I love but didn't put in the video is how the cat you can feed on the station's back alley gets comically big once you get it healthy.
I also love how detailed the main character's rooms are on the recordings you can watch on the control room at the dorm, sadly I think they went overboard with the CRT effects on portable, so that coupled with the low resolution makes the details a bit too hard to make out.
I really wish we could have a truly definitive official Persona 3 release, but oh well.
I agree
Thanks to Portable we can't define any version as the "Definitive"
We really need Persona 3 with all good things from both games
The only time i think a remaster is needed
So this is not on the game pass?
PSP version has the female character choice and storyline (which is great for people who are female to play the game and get the immersion) and also for simply making the game worth being replayed, since you will see how the world is if you were a girl (even the ost changes and it's still great)
@@cosmicfab7874 Closest we have gotten so far is people saying that through emulation they added in the ability for full party control in FES. Only issue? PS2 emulators are DEMANDING.
Last part aged well
Elizabeth scenes are the biggest hits to me, they lose so much humor in psp
Also the sex scene in the dorm
@@kurosan9712 that implies you see the two PS2 Playmobil models having graphic sex on the TV screen 😂
@@lowhp_comic well you kinda do, but...
@@kurosan9712 no way 😳
I dunno, I still had a good time with them. I doubt my reaction would be any different even if there was more visual to them.
It's really nice to see the more mundane moments of Persona 3 as if the characters lead normal lives, it really is heartwarming.
I love the fact that like 1/3 of these are just Elizabeth being absolutely Elizabest
I really hope that the rumored remake of P3 is true. We need the ultimate edition of P3
So would you want to see all these moments with the Female protag?
@@keip4568 More than that is that I just want to have the QoL changes that they added into P3P into something that doesn't feel like a glorified visual novel.
there’s gonna be no remake
@@TheBaxes Atlus is doing ports of Persona 3 and Persona 5 on Steam, but damn right, hope they go the extra mile and make the "Persona 3 Perfect" with female protag with FES gameplay and P4G QoL changes 🙏
we NEED to be able to play with mc and femc with the answer with at lesast the same graphics as fes but same gameplay as p3p
Bro Elizabeth is so real for that 💀
I don't even know which scene you're referring to, but I wholeheartedly agree regardless.
Man this takes me back. P3 FES will forever be my favorite story in the series.
Coolest characters, actual difficulty/management, and a badass villain with a sweet design and brutal stakes
Persona 3 Reload next year
Only problem with fes:
"Aigis has been charmed"
"Aigis uses diamama on nxys"
The charn salt is real - Atlus (2016)
Luckily I never experience that as I heard talks about how annoying that charm can be on certain boss fights, so I just farmed narssiscus's flower as soon as I could
That has nothing to do with FES tho
I don't even mind it when or if that would even happen. Only delays the fight by 3-4 turns AND I get to listen to the bgm longer.
I'll never forget
this title wasn't kidding i really was missing out wasn't i. had no idea what joys were kept from me. elizabeth on the elevator and on the slide are. incredible
Man I remember playing FES almost a decade ago... As my last major playthrough of a game before i officially moved out of home and became an adult. This game will always hold a special place in my heart.
You can still have major playthroughs as an adult tho
Back when you were 40 😂
I just have to thank you again. I'm like half way through the intro after emulating FES (added controllable battle) and I have to say this shit is so much better. the cutscenes make such a massive difference it's insane. as a first time player you saved me from making probably the biggest mistake with this game so yeah. thanks so much lol
The P3FES is the version that has the Epilogue of the game, it is the Superior version by Story progression and storytelling because like in the video you can see way more personality to some characters that way and of course the cutscenes are necessary for setting the tone of the game, some people seems to forget that the Male MC is the Cannon one, P3P is only good if you already experienced FES.
@@GhOsThPk yeah exactly. I almost played P3P on my first playthrough 😭
What phone did you use for emulation?
@@Carcosahead I emulated it on PC, with a program called PCSX2. there's tons of tutorials on CZcams to help set it up :)
I’m kinda mixed on this. P3P has so many quality of life changes, the increased social stats on the arcade games, ease of moving around and so on. But I also kinda like having a 3D movable character, cutscenes and a living environment.
Plus the FEMCs music, it’s like ughhh i can’t decide
Honestly, this whole discussion on either portable or FES just makes me wish ATLUS had just remade the game instead
There are rumours about this happening
@@lowhp_comic copium, the fact that they ported P3P says enough
@@insertnamehere2022what do you mean
@@LUKEYDIE a “definitive” P3 is not happening, they just ported P3P and called it a day. If they were gonna make a “definitive” P3 they would’ve held off porting the soon to be “inferior” P3P
@@insertnamehere2022I’ve seen some people say they ported P3P specifically for people to have option as a visual novel. No point in release fes if it’s being remade
Also, you're literally missing out on Heartful Cry; probably the most impactful track to appear in any Persona 3 event
P3P waters to a visual novel. Despite FES's limitations theyre so expressive. And Elizabeth's infinitely raining yen the fountain
I am really enjoying p3p but it is a shame that you can feel pieces of the game missing. It’s palpable that some scenes would hit so much harder if they weren’t just simple pictures.
For real especially towards the end *spoiler* in the scenes where makoto sacrifices himself or when he’s on the rooftop I missed out on a lot of the emotional impact
I only played portable but I felt like this too
I really feel like p3p should dipped deeper with visual novel cgs. Like these cutscenes can just be drawn instead of just having text describing it. Or add some more character portraits.
@@Leeder87 oh for sure! Ideally I would’ve loved it if Atlus had made an ultimate version in the ps2 era style bc those have a lot of charm imo. (Or …yknow with a remake maybe
Having P3P ported up to current consoles over FES is extra embarrassing when you look at how P4G was the preferred version to port up for P4. I get that P3P has the Femtag route, but I wouldn't consider that a worthwhile replacement for gutting the whole game's presentation. Sure, it's fine for the PSP at the time (I guess), but I think we would all prefer a straight-up remake with Femtag as an option.
They choose a version an portable is the one with best gameplay and more extra content plus the answer in not very liked in Atlus team, plus fes is pretty buggy, they should remake person 3? Of course they should
@@suami2529 The Answer is not very liked in general, I think.
@@Baba-yv6ml why is that? I dont know anything about the answer btw so I'm just curious
@@kerresft8745 It's not really like the rest of Persona 3. It's like if Persona 3 was just Tartarus for like 20-30 extra hours, with bad grind and gameplay, and a bit of story thrown in. That's what I've heard, though, haven't played it myself, but even when I hear good things the people saying it always seem tentative about it, like they're not exactly shy about at least giving disclaimers about the gameplay.
>extra embarrassing when you look at how P4G was the preferred version to port up for P4
Uh, how is it embarassing when both P3P and P4G are originally portable enhanced sidemakes of the originals? P4G also fucks up a ton of presentation from the original, notably the Inaba fog.
I want to play as femc in 3D... I want male mc to be able to max out his social links without cheating on the girls and to have social links with his male teammates... dare I say I want redrawn cutscenes... 😢
Now we got reload to make up for that
Playing through P3P myself I will say that I don't mind the lack of 3D cutscenes as much as I thought, maybe it's because I'm more of a reader and don't mind adventure games/VNs but I do feel immersed with the characters and atmosphere. However I will admit that the game being designed with these cutscenes in mind does show at more times than others, especially with some transitions that used to be animated. Luckily a cutscene restoration mod has already been released for that!
It's not my first time with Persona 3, that would be the movies and I have seen a FES walk-through but it's the first time I'm experiencing the game for myself which does make it just that much more sentimental since it's been a game I've been waiting on for quite sometime.
One little detail I will remember from FES tho is the maMC doing his lil run towards Kazushi in their social link at the train station...oh and Elizabeth's ridiculous coin wallet. Which, thinking about it, does make me a little sad that these kinds of small moments won't be in the most accessible version even with it being sort of insignificant in actuality.
On the other hand the feMC and her social links really does enhance some characters by offering a new and fresh perspective. And her route being designed for the Portable edition makes it feel much more at home than the maMC's route.
This games deserves a PROPER remake. P3P does the job (and It's sometimes cool to have a "fast" version of the game for when you've beaten it like 10 times XD) but, yeah, it's not the same. The atmosphere the backgrounds and the NPCs add cannot be captured in text form.
Also, I feel like Japanese writers are normally... less than average when it comes to writing humorous dialogue, but they do good VISUAL humour and that gets lost in P3P. Elizabeth's scenes are great examples of some good comedy bits.
Well, Persona 3 Reload is official.
The scene were everyone is hanging out at the shrine during their last night is missing, that was very charming. Portable being ported was a huge mistake and sometimes I can't really fathom what goes through people's minds when they make decisions like this.
The scene is still in portable you have to ask koromaru for a walk on the last day
It's call appealing to the majority. Most people playing this are p5 players and FES doesn't let you control characters in combat or other shit.
@scarletlotus7688 social links in Persona 3 are much more complicated than 4 and 5, in which not allowed to friendzone the girls to some extent. Portable is the closest to Persona 4 and 5 in terms of gameplay, quality of life changes and UI mechanics.
The scene still exists and it's not that easy to miss. But yeah, seeing the characters actually play feels more wholesome than just imagining it.
They needed to rush it out for the anniversary and making a combined remaster would take too long. That's what my friend said anyway
Persona 3 FES is the definitive version, the only benefits of portable are the controllable party (a huge godsend at times) and slightly expanded features of some social links. Plus FEMC story is actually interesting. However, FES not only has all these animations. It has the epilogue story. Still there's one thing portable has over FES... The all out attack on Junpei at Yakushima beach XD
Not to mention, Party control is possible on FES with a very simple mod.
"Slightly expanded"
Actually getting to talk to your party
@@ianp5367 this isint p4. Not to mention, there are party social links in fes/male protag that the female cuts out
not a good argument at all
@ImPachoBlue I never said male MC didnt have exclusive social links as well. With FeMC though, you get to talk to the other two thirds of your party, which in my opinion, is way more important. You really only miss out on Mitsuru as well, so yes, it is a fair argument.
@@ianp5367 the female loses party social links so there's still no advantage in those terms.
Fes first then psp female is the best to go simply
Being able to see so many of the potential social links in the first few hours is a really great detail.
If the rumors are true that an ultimate P3 remake will be announced this year with 5s graphics and style of gameplay i hope they don’t change the comedic timing of the animations.
The teacher dropping the book and running away had me dead😂
I was playing Persona 3 for the first time now, on the Switch. This 6 minute video is almost making me stop to play the Portable version and buy the Fes one on the PS3 online shop, for real
Do it, then you'll have both versions and can enjoy the intended experience with the 3D cutscenes, 3D explorable maps, and the story expansion in FES plus the Female protagonist, new social links, quality of life improvements and extra bosses in Portable
0:23 ironic that in the Trails universe, Sharon (same English VA as Elizabeth) reprimands you for playing on the escalators in Roer.
I knew something felt off when playing the P3P Remaster. I’ve played 4 and 5 but never played 3 before and thought I would give the new P3P remaster a shot but I was not aware of how gutted P3P was. It just doesn’t have the same effect without any of the animations. Hopefully we get a more proper remaster of 3.
Less “gutted” and more replaced with other stuff.
play FES on emulator, theres a comunity of modding that enhaces the game A LOT
@@EWOODJ No, it’s gutted alright.
I guess I was lucky by having p3p as my first persona, I ended enjoying it and I moved to the P4 just fine. I'm at p5 now and I enjoyed all my time with the franchise (I do miss the animations tho)
im basically done with p5s base game stuff and about to hit royal but recalling the visual presentation of p3 and p4, it felt like p5 stepped down a lot of times on making visually fun and wholesome segments as well as funny confidant parts.
i remember p3 having some mature yet fun stuff like mitsuru burger and the entire elizabeth arc while p4 really act like high schoolers who throw out comedy at every corner. just wished p5 did more of that.
The scenes at the thieves's hideout do have some nice animations
I love feMC so idk I guess I’ll take the loss 😭 I’ve also played FES too though
I finished the P3P remaster like… 15 minutes ago and adored it, but looking at the FES gameplay I wish they had remastered that instead! Oh well. I still really really loved it, even if I would’ve preferred FES in hindsight!
Only played portable, didn't know what I was missing. Can't wait for reload.
I'll definitely Play Fes when i replay persona 3
Shinjiro was the last person i wouldn't suspect to be a chef when i first saw that cutscene in game
I just started playing P3P recently and never understood why Fuuka's whole social link was about her wanting to learn how to cook but she NEVER cooks in the dorm!
I like some of the social links but some are a waste of time and some are absolute garbage.
I love that Door-Kun just stands around with his hands in his pockets 99% of the time. Completely unphased by Liz doing the Macarena or Toriumi having a breakdown.
i miss this game... I will never have the feeling of those cozy days playing P3FES for the first time again... But it's all good :o
0:35 velvet room attendant logic 😂
hopefully we get a P3 remake in the scale of P5 that includes the Answers from FES and FEMC route from Portable.
2:53 Ken Amada got his own slapstick comedy
Not seeing elizabeth's silly antics was the worst part about playing portable
6:03 Ah, yes. I will miss the pit of emptiness. Good times
My favorite part of Fes are the fusion spells and how they Work in that game
Man I love this game well this version of the game so many memories
5:10 my favorite scene though
Not to mention the anime cutscenes that gave more impact on some events
The 3d animation in this game was wonderful. Much better than in persona 4
@RAYHAN REHEMA PUTRA I mean from 3:37 I'd say this looks better than anything in inaba. And i prefer the school too. Its fitting for inaba as it's meant to be a boring place in the middle of nowhere but I still think p3 does look better tbh (P4 portraits are generally better though)
@@amaterasu3325 They really did nail the lighting or the filter or the effects or whatever you want to call it, the sunny effect just looks better in P3, in P4 it just looks so bright and offensive, though I do still really like how the effects look in P4.
@@Baba-yv6ml If you played the Golden version yes, but the original is good cause the grain is very nostalgic and soft
I remember playing fes back in 2020 it’s so nostalgic to me
One bit you forgot to include is one moment in the betrayal scene when Koromaru leaps in to take the remote away from Ikutski, that part of the scene has been removed entirely from Portable. While I do understand it being difficult to recreate in visual novel form, but they could've at least make a new portrait of Ikutski holding the remote, much like the new character portraits of certain characters holding guns, and show the bit about Koromaru snatching the remote away as a still image from the original anime cutscene.
Thanks, im gonna replay it again
Minato eating borgars alone is truly a peak relatable moment ngl
Tech progressed so far now that we can play both FES and P3P on the same smartphone.
Oh that's just lovely...
It’s so sad that p3p didn’t include the 3D element of FES
Because P3P is a PSP game. The hardware can't support many things.
@@player2-lightwater914 *remembers playing Crisis Core and Most Wanted 5-1-0*
........huh? What was that about it "being due to technical limits"?
Crisis Core was made solely for the PSP and it's not a PS2 game. NFS: Most Wanted 510 lacked free roam and story mode. P3 is originally a PS2 game and never a PSP game until in the later years.
P3P is taken from original PS2 to make it into a PSP game which is a downgrade which is why there are no 3D environment (except during dungeon exploration), no anime cutscenes, everything turned into visual novels. The Answer got removed because due to lack of storage space in the UMD. Even the PSP version of Star Wars: Battlefront 2 got downgraded with the removal of several maps and no story mode. Imagine if Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater turn from PS2 games into PSP games. The games would have tons of removal stuffs to support the PSP hardware and the UMD.
@@player2-lightwater914 I guess you're right in that regard. If anything, I don't think it was a good idea on Atlus' part to make only the Portable game with full control. Apparently (from what I heard) the idea behind that was that they wanted to have characters that felt more like themselves given the theme of the game instead of being extensions of your control and as such you were being a "leader" to give them orders (naturally not everyone follows orders irl) but unfortunately if that's the main reason? Yeah, it doesn't gel with me considering I have NEVER aspired to become a leader in any capacity for anything. Namely because if I lead a team, most of the time it just feels like I say "ok, do your thing but be sure to support me every now and then!" and I don't feel like that translates to good RPG game mechanics especially when it feels so close to a certain Battle Facility in Pokemon Emerald (looking at YOU, Battle Palace. Seriously, how did Game Freak even think that letting your Pokemon fight according to NATURES was a good gameplay mechanic?!)
5:53 is why persona 3 is the goat it not a game, its merely turns the mundane in the magnifique about life
The Elizabeth and Koromaru scenes are the best. So cute..
Cant wait for them in reload
I wish Nintendo ported over the Persona FES instead but whatever. I love this game and glad I'm able to play it on the go too.
really hope the community makes this a reality on portable,since now there's no limits for modding
I really hope so too, and it seems like it could happen, I've seen some work in progress P3P mods for that already and while they're still very unfinished, the fact that something might be possible for that excites me. I really hope that eventually the entirety of P3P can be in 3D (and maybe even The Answer getting ported as well). FEMC will be really rough but someone can probably find a way to do it.
Idek if thats possible. But people have modded the original P3FES that it may as well be the true definitive version of P3
Just emulate the game and stop being n utter consoomer throwing money at corporations and simping for them when they dont give a dam about you.
And yes there are limits on modding.
4:09 love how MC get's BITCH slapped and does not React to the slap for no reason.
MC: "I don't care, life is meaningless anyways"
I’m playing portable on ps5 right now and mannnn… this is so much better
I never noticed how in the scenes where you walk through an area that you can see the social link characters in the background.
Elizabeth asks to be clapped
Persona portable was my first persona 👍
My friend just got through telling me how while it is nice to have the portable version, there's really no reason why they couldn't give us the fes version or merge that version and the portable version with some of the improvements to make an overall definitive version. Because now it just looks off when compared to say persona 4 golden and persona 5 Royal. Hopefully we should get a remake but looking at these they missed out on a great opportunity to give us a Persona 3 Definitive Edition.
Pretty sure that the reason is the engine for p3 fes or something. It's not that they couldn't rerelease it for technical reasons it's more that it's legally not ok I think.
@@halt348 Still no excuse.
@@MrDarksol true, could've at least put a minimum amount of effort into it. Smt 3 had a port that not only added voice acting but actually allowed you to assign skills to personas when fusing them. Kind of absurd they didn't at least add that onto portable + the animated cutscenes.
@@MrDarksol I mean if it is a legal issue that's a very good excuse
@@cooltwittertag I'm just saying if we were able to get nocturne perfectly fine then at the very least remake Persona 3 if all you are going to do is just be lazy and give us the PSP version.
It would be awesome if game would have a combined version like Naruto Storm Trilogy a Persona 3 Collection with FES+P3P
But that would make logical sense
I remember buying this on the ps3 store and falling in love. I still haven’t played p3p and really don’t plan to. I can’t wait for the remake.
This series peaked with the Elizabeth dates.
playing right now the p3p with the 2D animation cutscenes mod and it's ok but after p4g, p5r and p5s I miss this element; as I already like enormously the tone of p3 and the story already I will redo a fes walk-through immediately after, I have to
Bro I forgot the "Take Koromaru out for a walk parts." I love those
We may not be getting a definitive P3 version, but we got the new persona for mobile (p5x) which is a real persona this time and being for mobile it is the most accesible it can be
Make the remake with features from both portable and FES please ATLUS! Persona 3 Indigo!
thankfully you can mod P3 FES to make the party members controllable now.
No fun in that, I'll be missing mitsuru stupidity.
@@abdulsoleh7131
Makoto : Come on Senpai there is 3 Shadow that weak againts ice please use mabufudyne
Mitsuru : OBEY ME!! (cast Marin Karin)
(MISS)
Makoto : Looking for a real revolver to shoot him self in the head 😂😂😂
@@abdulsoleh7131 Mitsuru spamming Maya Karin is only in the vanilla P3. She does not do that much in FES.
If you like cheating, use the mod.
Damn I wish we got fes on the switch instead of portable
To be fair, I tend to miss a lot of this anyway, since I always play Minako's route
When i played p3p, everytime that i wasnt in a battle i was watching a gameplay on yt while passing the dialogues
Old but gold
This is why I will not be buying P3 until we get a true remake of FES. Persona 3 was a huge part of my childhood, and these scenes give most of the charm to it in my opinion.
I wish i could play fes but man i am not used to the getting tired mid-tartarus, plus i have a pretty far in save on P3P, so no going back
Just deleted my P3P save file and everything. Let's get this! 😤
if its getting remake...i hope the game 3d grapgic for femc, and the mc also can chose either eli or theo also can interact with male team mate for social link tho they can make different dialog when its mc or femc , also the answer, and....the costume
well its just a hope
1st time playing Persona 3 and it was the Portable Version on Ps4 and I had no Idea that there were Character models and actual explorable locations in FES like in P4. I can't get it for ps2, so I'm just gonna wait for the remake, because after P4 and P5 it's just painful to play through.
Edit: I'm stuck in Tartarus with this stupid statue 🗿🌪️
All I can say is, at least we have the remake coming close 😞
I played portable on my brother xbox today on gampass and I hear about the fes version on ps2 and well... now I want to play that version
You can on xbox, do you have a xbox one or series?
@@zozzinator I have a series X
@@flyinghaiku you can use emulators for basically anything, so retroarch, ps1 (duckstation), ps2 (aethersx2), GameCube & Wii (Dolphin), Xbox 360 (Xenia), ..., either in a sandbox mode (safer but costs 10 bucks) or in the normal xbox mode (free but may slightly risk a ban), both are basically official so theres no jailbreak required or anything, I've actually fully played persona 3 fes through it in nice & crispy 4k with a widescreen and party control patch
@@zozzinator Can you explain me how to play Persona 3 on Xbox series?
You forget to put junpei and chidori scene after takaya shot junpei
5:58 no way, they even had Discord in FES version?!
The sound that haunts me every day
Big cat still haunts my nightmares.
I still loved p3p since it’s all Xbox has but man having the 3d models all the time would have been so nice
Imagine Koromaru social link with FES graphics...
mario could never offer this 3d plataform expirience, and square enix still dreaming about making this animations.
Just finished Portable and honestly I regret playing it. Not having the animated cutscenes and walking around the town, really made the game much less impactful.
Wish they remade P3 with all the bells and whistles.
I love how this whole video is just in game scenes. Doesn't even come close to mentioning the Answer, which is not only more Cannon than Femc, but was also interesting from a game play perspective.
I do have to say, it's baffling that they remastered P3P instead of Fes. It just feels too weird for the other games to have so much personality in the daily lives of the characters, and then have P3P have almost no models, and a huge lack of content. This even goes as far as the hot springs scene being basically neutered.
If they really want to promote P3P, then the best they could have done was make the male route be FES, and then have the Female route be the visual novel. Of course, this absolutely mandates the necessity of the implementation of the Answer, especially how much Persona Arena is being pushed. Without the answer, much of the inclusion of the P3 cast feels weird, and also doesn't account for Aegis having access to the Velvet Room.
The Answer was a 30 hour grindfest with a dumb story, which is why Atlus decided to not include it in Reload
Im slightly okay with them removing 3d animations despite it working just fine during combat. But the fact that they removed 2D CUTSCENES is completely beyond my understanding
PSP UMDs probably didn't have enough space for the video files, the audio files were already compressed to hell
YES I NEED THIS CHAD MAKOTO
that's why P3 Remake needs to happen
Thank the lord I still own my ps2 and fes. Im really gonna miss the fatigud system in reloaded.
Looks funny, I hope they come back in reload
Still not having to watch as SOMEONE spams marin karin is a fair trade for cutscenes
are you fucking kidding me. Im getting the emulator rn
i don’t remember which it was that reduced your player model into a smt 3/5 type cursor that zooms around but i dont like that one more for sure
Aw man I had no idea
Main reason I went retro and got fes on ps2 recently.