Yes! Tilly was enjoying talking to Jock and why wouldn't she. Although she probably knew The Story like so many other folks, it was great to hear the story from The Horse's Mouth.. She was also very smart. She didn't "Drink" like Jock did. I'm telling you when a person gets some Cocktails "Loose Lips Sink Ships". I'm surprised that The Glass didn't break when Jock Toasted her with it.
@@SOCORROSILVA-in7px What exactly. If you mean Loose Lips Sink Ships, people tell things that are supposed to be a secret. Also back in the Day according to the Old School Ewing Book Dallas JR was delivered by a Midwife Nurse who was African American.
You know, i felt the same way about my grandpa. Although he was mexican/spanish, his tall broad stature with the silver hair, weathered face, boots and hats...always reminded me of JOCK 😇😇
Yep! He made his fortune the Old Fashioned way "He Earned It!" when me made it, he didn't drink or squander like Digger Barnes did. It was easier for Digger to blame Jock because he was too ashamed to admit his downfall was nobody's fault but his own.
Yes, she was also in Up The Downstair Case as a Foster Mother who had a conference with Miss Sylvia Barrett wo was doing her first Teaching Job. She also won a posthumous Emmy for her work on The Practice.
Digger, Gary, and Sue Ellen were known as "drunks" but practically everyone on the show, including Jock, Ellie, JR, Bobby, Ray, and Lucy, was a raging alcoholic. The only difference between those groups was one was made up of non-functioning alcoholics and the others were functioning alcoholics.
Diggar, Gary, Sue Ellen destroyed their lives and those around them while drunk. Big difference. Ive known people like these 3. Its all or nothing with them. As in the case of Gary, he was a loser. Even when he was winning, he had to lose. Because it was booze over everything when he choose the booze..... I wish we had gotten a second prequel movie chronicling Gary vs JR and his boozing, marriage to Valene and the families reaction to it. The movie ends with the birth of Lucy.
In The New Dallas they could have had Tilly's Granddaughter or even Seth Foster's Grandson be on the show who have a History with The Ewings. Jock was very honorable, he found OIl on Seth Foster's Land and although he could have cheated him out of it he did the honorable thing.
@@htowninatx Yes, her name was Dora Mae. The Folks who worked behind the Scenes wanted to bring African Americans but it didn't pan out. Sharon Leal (Dreamgirls) would have been perfect as Seth Foster's Great Grandchild, or Jessica Leccia could have played The Great-granddaughter of Lupe the "Original" Maid who knew the true story of how Miss Ellie "Saved" The Southfork.
I’m glad you noticed that, lol 😂😈, I was waiting and looking for a comment on that, I’m black too from London, I was happy to see abit of cameo for the two black actors in Dallas, 😃
Dallas Knots Landing and Dynasty were and still are my favorite TV shows. The acting was Superb and all the actors fit their characters perfectly! Falcon Crest and The Colbys didn't have a chance in the ratings not as long as these 3 shows were still aired.!
@@jakewible6139 Yes also it would be the last time they would use the Cloyce Box Ranch. It was still a Five Part Miniseries. In The UK in 1989 there was a Family who came on the Scene on the Soap Opera Emmerdale who were heavily influenced by Dallas with their Power. However, the House they lived in suffered Fires, Airplane Crashes, and the like.
@@kenhernandez8128 Falcon Crest was called Dallas with grapes. Many are surprised to learn that it was produced by Earl Hamner, who is better known for The Waltons. The lead actress on the show was Jane Wyman, President Reagan’s first wife. She played a character like what many accused Nancy Reagan of being.
Unlike a lot of shows, Dallas first season is excellent. Smooth, acting is great. Nuanced, not as mechanical as some television can be and were in the time.
The owners of this house turned them down, when the series was picked up after this miniseries. They then found the south fork that became famous. This house seems more like a house Jock would have built, more his generations type. This house burned down in 1986.
I thought Dallas didn't feature any black actors and actresses. I was wrong. But black Americans only had roles in the first few episodes. The rest of the series was had an all white cast in the leading roles.
What do you mean by that? This was the only time Blacks were used and seen on The Show with the exception of The Hostess at the Restaurant. However, can you imagine how much Money The Caterers made at The BBQ. The Actress Irma P. Hall was in the Movie Up The Downstair Case who would later win a Posthumous Emmy for her Guest Starring Appearance on The Practice. I would have loved for Sharon Leal (Ex-Dahlia Crede Guiding Light) to have played Seth Foster's Great Granddaughter on the Old School Dallas or Jessica Leccia (Ex-Natalia Rivera Guiding Light), play The Great Granddaughter of Lupe who worked for Miss Ellie back in the day who at that time almost lost The Southfork.
Another person who did "Liquor" was Michael Landon on Little House On The Prairie. When they did a scene where he "Drank" water it was actually Liquor most notaby Vodka. The man had so much power. He wrote, produced, directed various episodes of The Show. He was like The David Foster of TV.
@@JA_WILL I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of Men in my Family were heavy drinkers and several died of Cancer including My Father. The damage it does to The Liver is horrifying.
Unfortunately, this is where Dynasty had Dallas beat....role of Black folk. Dynasty went all the way with Dominique Devereaux (Diahann Carroll). Dallas couldn't get past Black servers.
One of The Writers felt really bad about that. In The Book "Dallas" by Lee Raintree The Mexican Staff were smirking when Jock & Miss Ellie got married, becuase they knew the real reason why. Jock wanted to Hire Blacks instead but Miss Ellie said "No!" They could have worked in The Typing Pool, been a Teacher to Lucy, They could represent Chicago's Offices. Anything was possible.
Dont they have blacks in Texas Dallas ? These 2 characters must have been the only 2 black actors who ever had a speaking part in Dallas or come to think of it probably the only 2 black actors ever to appear in Dallas .
JOCK EWING WAS LIKE MY GRANDFATHER BACK IN THE DAYS HIS NAME WAS GRANDPA WILLIS ALSO MY FATHER SAID HE WAS LIKE A LION!!!!!! THE CARTOON YOUNG SAMSON AND GOLIATH I COMPARE GOLIATH THE LION TO JOCK EWING FIERCE AND FORMIDABLE!!!!!!!
If therewas one thing I hated about Dallas was their visible minority cast was always in subservient roles. This was the only time they really associated with Blacks. Irma P. Hall (RIP) was also a "Parent" in Up The Downstair Case with the Late Sandy Dennis. Also she would win a posthumous Emmy for her work on The Practice.
@@bacardilvr Go on! In The UK they are really trying to do "damage control" on Their Soaps. For example Emmerdale that debuted in 1972 was predominately "White" although they've had Indian Families. It focuses on a group of Families living in a Farm Community. They have promised to put in a prominent Black Family in the Village Eastenders that debuted in 1985 has always employed Blacks and Indians same with Hollyoaks that debuted in 1995. The Black Lives Matter Movement has really affected England as well. On the Set of Eastenders when they do Exterior Scenes, they have a beautiful Painting of a Lady. Jock is so "Gangsta & Classy", he had a Drink and he gave one to "The Catering Lady". Alot of Men wouldn't have done that. Jock was right, nobody destroyed Digger but The Liquor.
@@bacardilvr Oh here's another thing that happened in 2017. On the UK Soap Opera Coronation Street Eva Price a Character said "I Got More Roots Than Kunta Kinte whomever he is!" Now keep in mind Roots had celebrated it's 40th Anniversary and the Phone Lines were flooded with folks outraged and angry at such a thing being said. The Actress who played Eva had no idea about the legacy of Roots she must have felt awful afterwards.
Jerry Hinkle Nope he didn't!!!! Digger gave Miss Ellie away THANKS to his drinking! Jock tried to stop Digger from drinking but went right back to drinking! Jock was tough but noble!!!!
"Here's to original sin" Jock Ewing was a man's man!
This is the 1 & only time that I've ever seen black people on Dallas!!
The woman who ran The Cattlemen's Club in the later seasons of Dallas was black.
I would have loved to have had a drink with Jock!
Yes! Tilly was enjoying talking to Jock and why wouldn't she. Although she probably knew The Story like so many other folks, it was great to hear the story from The Horse's Mouth.. She was also very smart. She didn't "Drink" like Jock did. I'm telling you when a person gets some Cocktails "Loose Lips Sink Ships". I'm surprised that The Glass didn't break when Jock Toasted her with it.
Damn right👍
@@laminage
I am not to familiar with that saying.
Can you please be humble and tell me what does that saying mean?
Me too he having a long talk with me i would listen to every thing he got to say something good to 🍸
@@SOCORROSILVA-in7px What exactly. If you mean Loose Lips Sink Ships, people tell things that are supposed to be a secret. Also back in the Day according to the Old School Ewing Book Dallas JR was delivered by a Midwife Nurse who was African American.
My grandfather was the spitting image of Jock Ewing, ran the family the same way. I love watching these clips picturing the old man.
You know, i felt the same way about my grandpa. Although he was mexican/spanish, his tall broad stature with the silver hair, weathered face, boots and hats...always reminded me of JOCK 😇😇
Jock was BAD ASS
Love the bartender and waiter
Back in the day Jock Ewing drank whiskey from a fire hose
They need to make a prequel call the rise of Dallas story of Jock Ewing punk Anderson and digger Barnes
They did it's called Dallas The Early Years
God, I loved Jim Davis!
Joe Nelson Jock Ewing the ruler
The man was a don, a man's man.
I can't agree more! My favourite! Jim Davis, the MAN!
Yep! He made his fortune the Old Fashioned way "He Earned It!" when me made it, he didn't drink or squander like Digger Barnes did. It was easier for Digger to blame Jock because he was too ashamed to admit his downfall was nobody's fault but his own.
The Bartender is Irma Hall, "Big Momma" from the Soul Food Movie
Good eye 👁️
Yes, she was also in Up The Downstair Case as a Foster Mother who had a conference with Miss Sylvia Barrett wo was doing her first Teaching Job. She also won a posthumous Emmy for her work on The Practice.
Boy she was very small. Dammm
aunt tee from a family thing and the lady killers. Blesss her
Jock could hold his liqueur too...
The love for Jock in the comments is awesome. A fine American 🇺🇸
JOCK EWING WAS TEXAS ! THEE ULTIMATE COWBOY JERRY JONES EVEN BENDS THE KNEE TO THIS FICTITIOUS CHARACTER
Jock ewing was Texas !
Like Texas, you don't mess with Jock!
...love Jock Ewing's old man swagg
Jock was the F**king man.
Hong Kong Phooey not strong enough word.
Digger, Gary, and Sue Ellen were known as "drunks" but practically everyone on the show, including Jock, Ellie, JR, Bobby, Ray, and Lucy, was a raging alcoholic. The only difference between those groups was one was made up of non-functioning alcoholics and the others were functioning alcoholics.
+Philip S Yep.
In real life Larry Hagman was a heavy drinker til his 1995 liver transplant!!
Diggar, Gary, Sue Ellen destroyed their lives and those around them while drunk. Big difference. Ive known people like these 3. Its all or nothing with them. As in the case of Gary, he was a loser. Even when he was winning, he had to lose. Because it was booze over everything when he choose the booze..... I wish we had gotten a second prequel movie chronicling Gary vs JR and his boozing, marriage to Valene and the families reaction to it. The movie ends with the birth of Lucy.
Yes, no real businessman keeps a stocked bar in their office. Lol
Joe Hale his drinking is why he needed a new liver. Lol
Mr. JOCK' knocking 'em back
In The New Dallas they could have had Tilly's Granddaughter or even Seth Foster's Grandson be on the show who have a History with The Ewings. Jock was very honorable, he found OIl on Seth Foster's Land and although he could have cheated him out of it he did the honorable thing.
Jock could knock back some booze, and not feel a thing.
A real bloke
@@SeanRankin2a fictional character…
The first & last time I think any black actors appeared in Dallas
there was the hostess at the cattleman's club
@@htowninatx Yes, her name was Dora Mae. The Folks who worked behind the Scenes wanted to bring African Americans but it didn't pan out. Sharon Leal (Dreamgirls) would have been perfect as Seth Foster's Great Grandchild, or Jessica Leccia could have played The Great-granddaughter of Lupe the "Original" Maid who knew the true story of how Miss Ellie "Saved" The Southfork.
I’m glad you noticed that, lol 😂😈, I was waiting and looking for a comment on that, I’m black too from London, I was happy to see abit of cameo for the two black actors in Dallas, 😃
Dallas Knots Landing and Dynasty were and still are my favorite TV shows. The acting was Superb and all the actors fit their characters perfectly! Falcon Crest and The Colbys didn't have a chance in the ratings not as long as these 3 shows were still aired.!
Falcon Crest did as it got as high as number 7 and ran longer than Dynasty.
@@CaptainSpalding72 Who remembers anything from Falcon Crest? Everyone remembers Dallas.
This was filmed in 77 - 78. IN the SOuth and in Texas, this is what you would have seen at a rich man's party
@@jakewible6139 Yes also it would be the last time they would use the Cloyce Box Ranch. It was still a Five Part Miniseries. In The UK in 1989 there was a Family who came on the Scene on the Soap Opera Emmerdale who were heavily influenced by Dallas with their Power. However, the House they lived in suffered Fires, Airplane Crashes, and the like.
@@kenhernandez8128 Falcon Crest was called Dallas with grapes. Many are surprised to learn that it was produced by Earl Hamner, who is better known for The Waltons. The lead actress on the show was Jane Wyman, President Reagan’s first wife. She played a character like what many accused Nancy Reagan of being.
Jim Davis was born to play Jock Ewing. Wish he could've been here a little longer. RIP
Jock you the man RIP
Unlike a lot of shows, Dallas first season is excellent. Smooth, acting is great. Nuanced, not as mechanical as some television can be and were in the time.
The owners of this house turned them down, when the series was picked up after this miniseries. They then found the south fork that became famous. This house seems more like a house Jock would have built, more his generations type. This house burned down in 1986.
Yep. I noticed the difference after the first season. I don't know how accurate the interior scenes were.
Thank you for sharing this information, it's very interesting!! Blessings.
The frame of the house still stands. It’s on what is now the Brinkmann Ranch in Frisco at Main & Preston.
jock was like my late dad... hard as fucking nails.. took no shit from nobody, liked his rum🥃 and the g g’s🐎 rip daddy.
It's nice to see the old Dallas agen
The first black roles
Wish Jock was my dad.
I wouldn’t have wanted to miss a curfew.
Jock was the best
About time Dallas added some "color" to the show.
This was years and years ago though, when it first came out. You never saw them again.
@@2011Ohmygoodness Lee Rich wanted African Americans on The Show but the Network wouldn't allow it
@@laminage . Sad.
Only in servant roles as you see here these two were probably fired off the ranch shortly after this party
@@laminageThe Network? Hmm Really?
The Jacket Bobby was wearing was the one that was worn in Spy In The House.
I thought Dallas didn't feature any black actors and actresses. I was wrong. But black Americans only had roles in the first few episodes. The rest of the series was had an all white cast in the leading roles.
You got that right
So in this episode they were teenagers when met. Yet years later it was adults and Jock had. First wife that was insane
Now I need a drink.
You know some shht is going down when the only two black people in the BBQ are gossiping.
When "Dallas" meets "Roots".
Phil Hayes yes I noticed it too
What do you mean by that? This was the only time Blacks were used and seen on The Show with the exception of The Hostess at the Restaurant. However, can you imagine how much Money The Caterers made at The BBQ. The Actress Irma P. Hall was in the Movie Up The Downstair Case who would later win a Posthumous Emmy for her Guest Starring Appearance on The Practice. I would have loved for Sharon Leal (Ex-Dahlia Crede Guiding Light) to have played Seth Foster's Great Granddaughter on the Old School Dallas or Jessica Leccia (Ex-Natalia Rivera Guiding Light), play The Great Granddaughter of Lupe who worked for Miss Ellie back in the day who at that time almost lost The Southfork.
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👍👍
EXACTLY
I always liked jock ewing. Treated the staff like family. Tying one on with bar lady🥃🥃🥃 Top man
Another person who did "Liquor" was Michael Landon on Little House On The Prairie. When they did a scene where he "Drank" water it was actually Liquor most notaby Vodka. The man had so much power. He wrote, produced, directed various episodes of The Show. He was like The David Foster of TV.
We don't know but that could have contributed to his Pancreatic cancer. -- GOD only knows.
@@JA_WILL I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of Men in my Family were heavy drinkers and several died of Cancer including My Father. The damage it does to The Liver is horrifying.
Unfortunately, this is where Dynasty had Dallas beat....role of Black folk. Dynasty went all the way with Dominique Devereaux (Diahann Carroll). Dallas couldn't get past Black servers.
Also Billy Dee Williams, Troy Beyer. She was Dominique's bi-racial daughter with the teacher from "White Shadow".
One of The Writers felt really bad about that. In The Book "Dallas" by Lee Raintree The Mexican Staff were smirking when Jock & Miss Ellie got married, becuase they knew the real reason why. Jock wanted to Hire Blacks instead but Miss Ellie said "No!" They could have worked in The Typing Pool, been a Teacher to Lucy, They could represent Chicago's Offices. Anything was possible.
the original southfork.
Sucked. Completed your sentence.
Dont they have blacks in Texas Dallas ? These 2 characters must have been the only 2 black actors who ever had a speaking part in Dallas or come to think of it probably the only 2 black actors ever to appear in Dallas .
When Bobby was shot Dennis Haysbert played one of his doctors.
Dora Mae, hostess at the Cattlemen's Club.
JOCK EWING WAS LIKE MY GRANDFATHER BACK IN THE DAYS HIS NAME WAS GRANDPA WILLIS ALSO MY FATHER SAID HE WAS LIKE A LION!!!!!! THE CARTOON YOUNG SAMSON AND GOLIATH I COMPARE GOLIATH THE LION TO JOCK EWING FIERCE AND FORMIDABLE!!!!!!!
If therewas one thing I hated about Dallas was their visible minority cast was always in subservient roles. This was the only time they really associated with Blacks. Irma P. Hall (RIP) was also a "Parent" in Up The Downstair Case with the Late Sandy Dennis. Also she would win a posthumous Emmy for her work on The Practice.
David Jacobs tried to right that wrong in the prequel movie. It bothered him too.
@@bacardilvr Go on! In The UK they are really trying to do "damage control" on Their Soaps. For example Emmerdale that debuted in 1972 was predominately "White" although they've had Indian Families. It focuses on a group of Families living in a Farm Community. They have promised to put in a prominent Black Family in the Village Eastenders that debuted in 1985 has always employed Blacks and Indians same with Hollyoaks that debuted in 1995. The Black Lives Matter Movement has really affected England as well. On the Set of Eastenders when they do Exterior Scenes, they have a beautiful Painting of a Lady. Jock is so "Gangsta & Classy", he had a Drink and he gave one to "The Catering Lady". Alot of Men wouldn't have done that. Jock was right, nobody destroyed Digger but The Liquor.
@@bacardilvr Oh here's another thing that happened in 2017. On the UK Soap Opera Coronation Street Eva Price a Character said "I Got More Roots Than Kunta Kinte whomever he is!" Now keep in mind Roots had celebrated it's 40th Anniversary and the Phone Lines were flooded with folks outraged and angry at such a thing being said. The Actress who played Eva had no idea about the legacy of Roots she must have felt awful afterwards.
@@laminage Woooooow! 😮
I wonder if they made a retake on this scene...😊
Thanks for posting
Jock talk plenty of shit talk about Digger and cliff will bad
I was so glad when they moved sets. This home just did not work!
SO true!
I like it better. It has more majestic history to it. These people are rich and you know it.
I disagree. This home was much more grand. The house that replaced it was far too small.
Southfork all the way
Mine to
Why were Jr and Bobby still calling Jock daddy when they were grown men in their thirties and forties.
SHAWN MICHAEL Duncan Its a Texan thing!lol
Because calling your father by his first name is the ultimate disrespect.
@@reginaldjackson4173 Right on Reggie!
Southern thing.
The show is set in the South. That's the way we roll down here. We call our parents "Mama" and "Daddy", no matter how old we are.
It’s Texas but they play the Tennessee Waltz
Jock should have did Tillie.....
He had better standards than that, my God!
And had oj
To soon to Tell
Were these two black people supposed to be regulars? That was a long scene.
Jock stole Ellie when she was 14? Did I hear that right?
Jerry Hinkle no ,watch the early years
Jerry Hinkle Nope he didn't!!!! Digger gave Miss Ellie away THANKS to his drinking! Jock tried to stop Digger from drinking but went right back to drinking! Jock was tough but noble!!!!
No. Ellie and Digger knew each since she was 14.
Jock didnt steal anyones woman or money.
"Stole his sweetheart? Ha, him and Ellie were just kids. His Daddy worked for old man Southworth for awhile, that's all."
Great exposition by the 2 slaves.