Debunking the 'FAKE' claims once and for all
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Conspiracy theorists claiming the ISS is just CGI, green screens & wires seem very focused on a particular clip which they say proves its all done in a studio - Time to debunk this once and for all
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Fun fact. While watching gravity from 2013 with Sandra Bullock, my mom actually caught a mistake. While on the ISS, Bullocks character, Ryan Stone doesn’t have her hair moving freely, or up like in real footage of female astronauts in space. Something i didn’t notice until she brought it up.
Little mistakes like that would come up a lot if NASA is faking space missions, but we don’t. So i think on that regard, Its pretty safe to assume that NASA is actually doing what they say they are doing
It's one of the minor things that fuel these "it's all fake" claims: that things don't look the way we expect them to look... because our expectation can often be based on "fakes" (well, fiction).
@@Groffili we already have a flurry of Space movies, specifically the BTS in films (ex. 2001,Apollo 13, Gravity, Martian, Life) that basically show that it takes a LONG STRENUOUS amount of time to make things look convincing no matter how high tech it is, especially at the cadence that NASA does…ANY broadcast.
@@Groffili essentially the actual movies that fake space, show that its nigh on impossible to fake what NASA is doing at the rate they are going.
True. You cannot unsee it once you are pointed to the mistake. Thanks for destroying the silver screen magic 😆
@@arctic_haze no problem 😀
Once again proving that Flat Earthers only pick those parts where they think they have an explanation for it, everything else gets thrown into the bin
They count on the stupidity and/or apathy of the average flat earther to not check.
I am pretty sure they do not even perceive that. People can obviously be conditioned to set out their brain function when confronted with adverse information.
That’s why cherry-picking is a fallacy, and one of the laws of flerfs.
Soooo, basically their brains...
These are the clips that are circulated. Flat earthers a not known for researching sources.
That dog is such a brilliant ventriloquist. You can almost believe it's "Dave" speaking.
🤭🤭🤭
Her hair behaves as a rigid object attached to her head. It's like a mohawk, not like real loose hair.
And what happens to a mohawk when putting on a hat?
It was a green screen that was filmed in a water tank in a zerogee plane, obviously.
They were reptilians so ofc it's possible for them to nreath under water, obviously.
😁👍😃
Maybe the zero G plane was on a harness and that's how they avoided it crashing into the floor 😁
@@DaveMcKeegan Nah, they just flew it at 17500mph at an altitude of around 250 miles above sea level, that way they can get those long, continuous shots.
@@joeschmo3844 wait a minute.. sounds familiar
Why are the flat Earthers willing to accept zero G in a plane, but then deny that gravity exists?
Because they have zero physics knowledge. Not even enough to do a decent reality debunking.
Because all they ever consider is what they need for the thing they are trying to justify at the current moment. They give no thought to the implications for another claim.
Most conspiracy nuts are that way, like saying the moon footage is slow motion then also claiming seeing wires often talking about clips moments apart.
@@Isolder74 Another example is flerfs who claim we do not see over the horizon because we can only see objects closer than a few miles, forgetting that they also claim sun and moon are thousands of miles above us.
Every FE argument exists in its own separate universe, where it is unaffected by the logic or physics that govern any of the others.
Now we're going to have them calling them Zero Relative density disequilibrium flights 🤦🏻♂️
Look at how natural hair without gravity looks on the 0 gravity plane, now look at hers and other Space Station videos with long hair in them.... It doesn't look natural. A kid would be able to tell, especially when someone prints it out
The Dunning Kruger is strong with you. It seems clear to you because you have no clue about hair. Tell your barber that all hair is supposed to behave the same and you will be laughed at.
Imagine if they spent all this effort on reading scientific literature, they might know and understand things.
And yet again, hunting down the original FULL scene, as opposed to only the cherry picked parts the deniers use, DESTROYS their claims.
Who'd 'a think it?! Oh right, everyone thunk it.
Research is a b**ch for flerfs 😂
@@DaveMcKeegan And the hilarious part is, they claim that they "don't blindly believe what they're told", and that they "do their own research". Yea, right. Suuuure you do...
@@ReValveiT_01 They might do their own research, but since they researched how to research on their own, they suck at doing it.
@@DaveMcKeegan 1st law of flerfs, their own citations prove them wrong.
I posted on Level Earth Observer's channel when he cherry-picked Chris Hadfield's "wires". He isn't bright enough to watch the nearly twenty minutes of the original video and see that Hadfield is "sitting" cross-legged for quite a bit. Chris must have abs of granite to be able to hold that position AND dangle from wires without flipping forwards.
Then there's also the minor inconvenience of Tom playing with the Makita drill and Hadfield floating the Nikon about. But the best part is how obvious Hadfield's watch is floating around completely without gravity's influence.
But hey, no one said they're logical.
Imagine actually being a flat earther tho.. how much time must you have to think that the earth is flat
i personally think that a portion of flatearthers do it to gain views on youtube or such, because there is no one flat earth model and they have to change their own model for each question so that it makes sence. im not saying that there arent people who truely believe in the flat earth theory, but i dont think that these youtubers truely believe in that. (or they are really that stupid and dont realise that their own model does not make sense in the slightest bit)
They are that paranoid, they don't believe NOTHING they are told, even their own eyes or (lack of) common sense .Everything's a conspiracy.
A lot do it for money, it's the same as the 5g Deniers, all the science proves them wrong, but they make big money selling "anti-5g" devices to idiots who are afraid and don't look up or understand how 5g works. So they buy a little plastic card that says "5G-Protection" on it, for £200 and think they are now protected. Same with ads on youtube, patreon subscribers for flat earthers, the documentaries netflix and people pay for etc. etc. The ones leading these conspiracies rarely believe in them it's their followers who believe whilst they string them along for power and money...where have I heard that before, oh right a cult/religion. You'll notice a lot of time the followers never do any science or tests themselves, they just repeat the phrases and terms they have been taught by their leaders. Even though a lot of these things are very easy to test on your own with basic equipment, easier to believe than to question.
@@angrychompski The majority are religious nut jobs
Both of the flat earthers I know personally are unemployed freeloaders (apparently paying taxes is a racket of the jews or something). They have all the time in the world to think about the flatness
Seriously, Hollywood needs to start using NASA green screens. They’re so good it looks like they’re not even being used. Seamless effects! 🤔
lol Im so good I can make it look like its not being used. I dont have a nasa budget either lmao
@@mikeknight713No doubt. What’s your channel where you show off your amazing work? With full motion and interacting with objects in the digital background in real time?
@@mikeknight713 Uh, you’re welcome for the 285th view? I guess? But seriously, what channel do you put this seamless green screen work on? Because there was exactly one decent shot in that whole thing (the bullet to the head).
The static shots in the house aren’t exactly hard to get, though the lighting was fine. I can’t say the same thing about the green screen shots. They were definitely no-budget and really obvious.
Spend less time making excuses for looney theories and more time on your day job…because cinematography isn’t your forte.
"Obviously Hollywood is part of the conspiracy and intentionally produces inferior green screen effects to make NASA more credible" - flerfer probably
I dont necessarily think it's fake but I find the fact that her hair doesn't flow around freely in the same manner that her necklace does... kind of odd
It looks completely odd
Her hair isn't _supposed_ to flow around freely in the same manner that her necklace does.
@@Jan_StrzeleckiCan you elaborate?
@@carterfifteen Her hair isn't made out of metal.
Unfortunately, Dave, there is no "once and for all." So long as these people draw breath, they'll claim it's fake.
Well no there isn’t because the nuts just repeat the same lie pretending nothing happened.
More fun for us.
The comment I came here for.
why so ominous
@@Erurehtiowhy so serious?
A healthy level of scepticism is a good thing. Problem being that flerfers and space deniers aren't sceptical, they're either wilfully ignorant or outright liars. . . or both.
Many are compulsive contrarians. They have the secret knowledge the rest of us are too ignorant to have. You get the same kind of thing in Civil War "war was acksually about" and climate change denialism.
I know one. He's neither, just steadfastly believes everything is a lie except what the half baked flat earth CZcams videos show. IMO it stems from not being able to grasp basic concepts like gravity and two people standing on the north and south pole can both stand upright with everything being completely normal.
Denialism is the word you're looking for.
It's a sad life to spend so much time bashing one of humanity s greatest achievements and symbols of international cooperation 😢
_“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed, 21 January 1980
It’s funny to me that space deniers don’t believe that it’s possible to be in space, but acknowledge zero g’s in a plane is possible. The ironic part about being in orbit around the earth, is that that’s exactly what the plane trick is. The only difference is that the zero g’s in a plane has a time limit. All an orbit is, is an object constantly falling towards the earth, but because it’s traveling sideways at such a high speed, it’s always missing the earth. So of course you experience zero g’s in orbit. It’s the plane trick on a more permanent scale. You’re always falling so you always experience this weightlessness.
Debate would be over if they'd show the forth wall. But they won't. Ever.
They literally did, at least a hundred times.
@@frantaspacek9583 OK. Provide one of those "hundreds".
@@ur4givn There's tons on official NASA channel, but you can watch it from other sources. Here is one made by the European Space Agency: Snn1k_qEx20
@@mackflynn it literally is not. I don't even think you know what the "forth wall" is otherwise you would've posted nothing. But, if you really truly are convinced, provide the time stamp. On ANY video.
@@ur4givn I work in theatre. I know what the fourth wall is. Theres a shot of the corridor leading to the room they were shooting in.
The reason I prefer your videos to any other debunking videos, is that you don't just call the deniers idiots. You actually address their (mostly ridiculous) claims, and then provide a logical explanation.
Many flat earthers don’t really have any respect, and just ignore clear evidence or blabber on about something unrelated when they know their arguement is about to be debunked all the while insulting everyone who disagrees.
To be fair it’s quite impressive for someone to not insult flat earthers.
They ARE denier idiots and some, sorry most, just shout down any rational argument against their position. They ARE morons except for the smart ones making money from this and they are just despicable. I suggest they don't believe in the tripe they promulgate.
I mean Dave Farina calls them idiots but literally has hour long videos going incredibly in depth into why they are wrong.
@@thepapschmearmd I still love guys like Dave Weiss calling ‘showing how they are wrong’ gaslighting. They’ve heard a word know it has a negative connotation but have no clue how you are suppose to use it.
to be fair, a lot of flat earthers are constantly attacking and insulting others, so it's satisfying to see them also get insulted :p
And now, watch the goalposts magically shift 20 feet to the right.
@@The1QwertySky
Ever heard of the expression "shifting goalposts"? It's when you can't deny someone's argument, so you just change the end goal of the argument.
@@sc2_Nightmare ah yes that makes sense thanks, no I haven't heard, I agree
speaking of goalposts...if you watch a PAT kick the arc of the ball proves the Earth is....damn it i cant even make a joke lol
😂 gaslighting
After Sandra takes out the hairtie she runs her fingers through her hair with ease. The amount of hairspray needed to keep the hair in that position on earth would not let you run your fingers through your hair like that. Ignorance, pure ignorance.
well, is photoshped, its has to
@@germanhernandezm.7435 and? We know what he said but he didnt say they were FAKE did he?
If I photoshopped a picture of YOU does that mean YOU are fake?
Use your damn brain!
I feel like a lot of people who make excuses for it being fake don't actually think them through, they just kick the can down the road. I honestly don't know what people get out of saying these things are fake
Some people are just contrarians. Anything to be the special person who figures out the "sheep" don't. Attention seeking is part of it. Others are just plain idiots. In either case, once you have argued yourself into a corner you just become defensive and are unable to give up on the idea because you'd look extremely foolish.
@@timolynch149 They love calling other people sheep while going about actually acting like one. They often see a claim by one of their kind then all just copy-paste it without even considering or looking at it.
It's called misinformation for a CZcams channel 😢 do you think anyone in this day and age actually thinks the known spherical earth is not what we see true reality 🤔 nooo obviously.
They MUST claim that those are fake to protect their all important narrative. They CAN'T accept the reality of space. Well, they can accept reality.
Flerfs, and conspiratards in general, are dump people who want very badly to be the smart kids but don't have the will or the means to pull it off. The only method left to them is to "see the big coverup that nobody else does" which is perfect for them because anything they can't understand is potentially evidence in their favor. In the event they don't find anything that they can twist into agreeing with their conclusions, the mere lack of evidence is proof of the coverup, which in turn proves their theories.
Respectfully; Anybody who thinks the world is flat really needs to get some professional help.
Or a REAL job...as unlikely as that sounds.
but professionals are part of the ominous cabal of misinforming organization perpetuated by the evil NASA so they won't ever seek that.
The Royal College of Psychiatrists just collectively shivered ...
Like all of you who believe the governments arent run by a satanic cult. Right kiddo
Wake up and smell the free masons.
i bet a few dubay followers are angry
At this point I’m 80% sure flat earthers and flat earth debunkers are working together so they can endlessly make these kind of videos. And we watch them all (on one side at least).
A smart money making scheme honestly
That’s a decent idea for a money making scheme. Have one person run a FE account, and then also an account to debunk the FE account
I love how conspiracy theorists always share clips at the lowest quality possible in order to mask any details that might, ya know, totally blow up their theories. Watched two of your videos so far. Both were great. Definitely subscribed. Partly because of the content but mostly because of your dog 😉
Oh so you are calling NASA conspiracy theorists then since they lost the original footage?
@@redditsucksyo You can literally find a link to a 720p version of the original broadcast in this video’s description… the clip I always see get passed around certainly isn’t 720p. It’s always just fuzzy enough to cast doubt. Seems like a really targeted coincidence….
Also, I’m not just talking about this video. I’m talking about the dishonest way all of these “NASA LIES” videos get passed around. Like the famous “chromakey” video. They say it shows NASA using a green screen. The evidence? A video of an astronaut using a blue screen with a white grid on it (for measuring motion) can be seen on a screen in the background. That video was filmed for and disseminated to the public, yet people pass it around like it’s something that wasn’t meant to be seen… what a joke. Wasn’t meant to be seen? It’s on CZcams right now…
@@redditsucksyo He never said that and you know it. Why are all of you flat earthers so dishonest?
After watching your first video I was really surprised anyone saw this clip and thought, yep it's fake. Now having seen more of the original video it's clear they didn't think that because nobody could possibly arrive at that conclusion and that clip was selected in bad faith. Again, these science deniers have no honor or class
@@Grauenwolf Yes. Starting with a conclusion and desperately hunting to find something to support that conclusion.
@@Grauenwolf Exactly, pretty much the way these kind of conspiracy theories go is that the purveyors assert that because there's some individual detail in a far larger whole which is "wrong", or appears to be "wrong", they have ostensibly proven something even if everything else fits the official theory and the said detail being "wrong" can be explained in more mundane ways (such as the claimant being mistaken or too inexperienced).
Look at how quickly TC accepts any and all flat proofs offered him without question but picks through every detail of anything related to the globe.
@@Isolder74 That's called Double Standard Fallacy.
@@Kualinar Actually no: it's confirmation bias. You keep answers/explanations that already conforms to your viewpoint.
Double standard is when you hold different people/groups to different standards for the same premise or actions.
It'll never be enough to overcome the power of "nuh uh". But the point isn't to convince those who can't be convinced. It's to show just how weak their claims are to those who might otherwise fall for them. And you've done a fantastic job of that. Clear and thorough, as usual.
Another excellent video from Rusty and his sidekick.
“the power of ‘nuh-uh’”… classic 😂👌🏾
*A piece of information with research done to every last details and logical explanation over physical phenomenon
"Nuh uh!"
Nasa laundering billions
I've come to the conclusion that nobody actually believes the earth is flat. They just have a disorder that direct injects dopamine into their bloodstream when they lie.
This reminds me of "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." Bill Murray
I mean go outside at night and on certain days you can SEE the ISS. Even if you could put them on some ship and send them to space they would just claim they were "drugged" or somehow otherwise tricked. They use lack of evidence...as evidence...because it's a conspiracy lol.
WHAT CAN YOU ACTUALLY SEE ?
Yes you can see the ISS. No one said its not up there. The videos are clearly fake as hell though. This guy made no sense at all from a video editing stand point he sounds crazy. I could fake this contradicting everything he just said. He is simply wrong about everything and go look at 0G plane footage so you can see how hair reacts in 0 Gravity. People are so gullible.
Yea idk about that one pal. Anything can be faked. Technology has the ability to seem like magic even to regular citizens. Statistically unlikely we aren’t told lies about some things.
I love how you stay respectful at all times while debunking this. This is exactly the style of debunking we need, so people who are in doubt stay with you and don't be pushed away by feeling ridiculed. Thank you so much
I agree with you. This is the style of debunking we need but at the same time things don't always need to be debunked. If it's not hurting anybody then sometimes you just have to let people believe what they wanna believe. Left brain logic doesn't need to be brought into every situation in life
Thank you my friend its called live and let live. Wolves are not bothered by the opinions of sheep. Which is why I don't try to convert anyone, I don't need others confirmation to back up my beliefs. I form them based on my own experiences and not the opinions of strangers.
You can't prove a flat earther wrong. They'll simply move the goal postvand act as if they never made the disproven claims
Most of them don't even read what you type.
You can't prove _to_ a flat earther _that they are_ wrong. It's about them, not about the facts.
@@ShizukuSeiji Or see the videos where they comment
You can prove them wrong, but it doesn't mean they have the attention span to listen or remember your debunking. Low IQ people simply don't have much attention span. The moment it gets a little bit complicated is the moment their mind drifts off. That's why flerfs immediately follow up with a new question after getting an answer. And at some point they are gonna start from the beginning and ask the 1st question again.
You can literally send them to space and they would still make excuses.
Flat earthers decided they were right
While roundearthers proved we are correct
Crazy part is how the proof just gets ignored 😂
I don't think the earth is flat but I do know for a fact all nations are run by the free mason cult meaning that they are lying to us. Welcome to the world run by the pyramids eye
@@xXJerry202Xxabsolutely gets ignored when it clearly showed he grabbed wires😂😂😂
You mean globetards?
Im sure they could afford all the editing needed to fake this.
finally a smart person. Its not even hard to do what he claims can not be done. None of what he said about the editing part is true at all. This video is bs
The idea that footage was taken in a Zero G plane would in fact be an admission that Gravity exists, debunking the notion of a flat earth with a paradoxical argument!!
It has to do with weight and the sudden drop
@@Globeisahoaxx 😂😂
@@Globeisahoaxx Weight? Are you sure....
@@Globeisahoaxx Why do objects have weight?
@Globe is a hoax what's the formula for finding somethings weight again?
It's always funny watching people trying to claim every single one of thsee clips are fake. On the one hand they go in to such detail that they've got jewelry on its own harness and a ridiculous amount of editing time in post with huge teams of people, then on the other hand they have to miss and leave in "obvious" signs of fakery.
Standard flerf thing I guess, picking and choosing to try and have things both ways.
It’s Schrödinger’s Flerf. NASA are both incredibly clever and unbelievably sloppy at exactly the same time.
The conspiracy can only be as smart as the idiot uncovering it.
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
What you mean..?
people did not land in moon?
Neil armstrong was fake?
Having worked with green screen editing and animation, I can say that it is extremely difficult to get the shadows falling on a green screen to line up with a background image. Especially like the irregular parts that jut out in the background behind the astronauts. One would have to construct a 3D model that matches the background structure to enable the green screen shadows to conform on it. It certainly could not be done in real time for a live stream.
You reckon you have the same green screen technology as NASA?
@@keithmc8654 🤦♂
@@keithmc8654 Yes.
@@Isaac_Flat_Earth Biggest cult ever
If earth is flying at 800,000 kmph, let's say India is flying upwards, then America would be flying downwards, because it's opposite, so after 12 hours India flies downwards and America flies upwards, right? Meantime other countries fly sideways.
This is the event that you claim that happens everyday. So as you can see how silly and laughable is this! Right?
So sad, billions of people believed on flying ball earth so deep in their every cell, since their childhood, now this sudden truth bothers them deeply, because every brain cell is filled with ball earth, it's the most heart breaking for globers.
"Her hair looks fake!!"
But lets ignore her floating necklace😂
Lets ignore the CGI and Gallon of HAir Gel you mean...lololol.....pure foolishness, wake up silly
@@GreatNewsVideo any proove for the cgi? I mean actual proove? Not just "nah ah" and "wake up silly"
But analysing ORIGINAL footage with a cgi program or find the code that was used for it...
Oh and gel in a necklace? 🤣
@@jasmijnariel if you dont have enough common sense and awareness of reality to realize fakery when you see it then no proof will suffice...otherwise YES there are loads of videos that show impossible things happening.
@@GreatNewsVideoI feel sorry for ppl like you. Your willfully ignorant or you just lie to yourself to make yourself feel better. It’s sad
It is impossibe to convince a stupid person, let the trolls be trolls @@jasmijnariel
Does anybody know were to find the full video of this interview???
He showed the title of it in the video.
STS-135 Flight Day 7 Interviews, Part 2
czcams.com/video/iV-X0NcG8Lc/video.htmlsi=ZsYuwo41_tm2vsxR
Flerf: _Cherry picks video he thinks has a gotcha and demands explanation._
Glerf: _Addresses flerf's points, soundly debunking them._
Flerf: YoU cHeRy PicKeD tHat VideO! WaTcH tHe WhOLe tHinG!
Flerf: Choosing whichever parts of physics they don't like to ignore.
Also Flerf: No, you cherry picking the video.
Feels like flerfs don't have the attention span to pay attention to the debunking and remember it. They gonna ask 15 other questions and then ask this one again.
FE: They must have faked it with a plane that can go fast and free fall longer.
GE: Yes.
Wait, no, wait that's technically true
I mean, even then it would also have to fly at _extremely_ high altitude, like over 200 miles. Oh, wait…
They faked it with a plane that goes so fast that it is freefalling around the Earth... Oh dear, that would require a globe... 🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment of the year. Bravo :D
Yes but it goes in circles
This is where I usually tell those idiots to go watch the new ISS movie. That was all done with wires, and it's obvious. Even though it doesn't seem like a low budget film or anything. They chose to use wires, and harnesses, and you can definitely tell the difference.
i love your dog dude, as soon as you start your outro, he realizes, gets excited it and raises his paws, cute afff
NASA: *experiences one slight glitch in a video feed spanning 254 miles in to space aboard a space station moving at nearly 18,000mph...
36 year old man with a net worth of $17,000, driving a 2000 Cavalier, living in a studio apartment in a dump: "Hah! Clearly they are faking it!"
And cell phones drop signal in the country lol. These people are not so smart are they?
Having more money than someone doesn't mean you are authentic and correct. I would trust the low wage networth $17,000 ORDINARY NORMAL PERSON over the corrupt government funded NASA Freemason a44holes anyday. I owned a Chevy Cavalier, beautiful car, get off your high horse.
If I may weigh in: all those special effects deniers are invoking require so many re-takes, and so much post-production work to make it even remotely believable. Those conferences were held live, with questions from the audience. There is NO image technology that allows any of that. Not even close.
The deniers would say it wasn't live, I think.
Well, that would just be a baseless claim without evidence, so…
They just claim that NASA has secret technology which makes such image manipulation possible. :D
(And at the same time, they claim that NASA does _not_ have the technology for spacefligt. :D )
You are wrong there are even videos of it and you can add objects in real-time eveb interacting with them. Bet ya everything in my savings account. But you go ahead and keep thinking you know what you are talkin about buddy!
Holy! You utterly destroyed any and all notions this video is faked and not in orbit around the earth. One of the best most thorough savage beat downs I’ve ever witnessed!!
Agreed.
Agreed!
Indeed.
You could literally fly some of these flat earthers into space and let them visit the ISS and they'd still insist that it was all just a simulation or something. And the rest of the community would just insist those that visited were CIA plants.
The only problem, ISS is just a movie set in a nasa movie studio. Space is fake
Witsit has said before that if he went to space and saw the earth he'd still think it's flat.
They're just bad faith actors.
Speaking from personal perspective, I can say that the source of such skepticism comes largely from a lack of education. Nearly a decade ago I was big on conspiracy theories. As I got older I decided to pursue educational pursuit in maths, sciences, engineering, and technology. The greater my pool of knowledge becomes, the smaller that pocket of conspiratorial thinking becomes.
Sadly, it's easier for these people to hand wave these things away in denial than it is for them to seek valid sources of trustworthy information.
SO you are saying that high school dropouts should NOT go around saying that all of the Engineers and Physicists are wrong?
Good for you!
@@stuartgray5877 Yeah, I didn't buy into all conspiracy theories. For example, I understood the Earth is round, gravity exists, universal constants etc.. However, I would be one to believe that 5G is a government scheme, I could be swayed to agree with moon landing deniers, and I thought the government would cover up UFOs and extraterrestrial contact.
Also: I'd like to mention that the term conspiracy theorist is a bit of a misnomer. Theories are the best tested proof positives that can yield scientific models. It makes more sense to call them hypotheses conspirators. As you can always make a bad hypothesis that you don't bother to test.
Go watch any of the videos done by Austin Witsit because I bet my next paycheck he's a hell of a lot smarter than 90% of anyone commenting here. You could use some humility and judge others less, because not only are their opinions not harming anyone, but most of us aren't bothered by the beliefs of strangers who are stuck an not growing or evolving like we are supposrd to do. You're mostly followers so you wont get behind or support the truth until the mass majority of others do. Its too much work doing any research or investigating of your own isn't it? Just keep believing what masters say, obey and pay your taxes like good sheep.
5:30 his arm and leg would also collide with the "wire" that was "grabbed". So either the wire somehow passed through his arm and leg, or the wire became disconnected during the roll and instantly reconnected (somehow) in time to be grabbed.
Absolutely. That is the first thing I noticed with this supposedly " Fake " video. His arms and legs must also be CGI.
@@galaxyhunter1978 These astronauts must be fully CGI! In fact, they must be robots invented by NASA for the sake of faking these images!
Side note on "it looks like the other fingers are grabbing something": Yes, the whole hand acts together. The main grabbing muscle, flexor digitorum profundus, connects to all the fingers. Which finger would catch a fold wasn't a great concern, and moving them separately is complicated.
The fact this stuff needs to be explained to people makes me weep for common sense.
Its okay, I did the maths. I seriously doubt there are more than a million flerfs on the planet, most of those in the USA's bible belt of course. Not a single one in the southern hemisphere. Not one with a half-decent education. With 8 billion humans on the planet flerfs make up only 0.0125% so we're totally fine; "common" sense is good to go, there's just a stupidly small percentage of uncommon sense out there and we can safely ignore it.
I think most people arguing “it’s not real” just never observe the entire footage outside of their little bubbles.
its not real and I can do this myself. Everything he just said is totally false from a video editing standpoint. You can see the guy passing the mic to the other hand avoiding the harness cables. Watch footage from a 0G plane and see how hair really reacts in 0G. When she took her hair down she had to shake it violently so it would fluff up. I cant believe people are so gullible but my IQ is 139 so I don't know what its like to be mentally challenged. lol
I think most people who think its real never researched FACTS outside of THEIR BIG Propaganda bubbles.
Speaking of bubbles .... in space. Don't stop believing, mate!
Why are you like that? Serious question. Why the fck are you like that@@mikeknight713
I thought earth is for real flat, but after watching your videos i can sleep well tonight knowing earth is not flat.
You're scared of reality...you need to be told a a fairytale so that you can sleep..you said it yourself. I bet you haven't even watched any decent F.E videos I.E 200 proofs
I personally believe that if a flat earther got invited to go into space and to the Station to see for them selves that the earth is a globe, they would come back and still claim it was fake.
Yup, they'd say they'd been drugged and shown fake movies on a screen.
Yup, absolutely.
William Shatner went to the supposed edge of space and he said all he saw was the deepest darkness he's ever seen and nothing but death above us and and that earth shall always be our only home and none of you want to hear that.
@@tommosher8271 and despite all the poetry, earth is still sphere shaped haha
@@tommosher8271 Why does William Shatner's opinion matter?
People are sometimes critically stupid
And in the case of flat earthers...they're stupid all the time
Yes, we all are! I used to believe in an almighty and invisible god that loves me until I was 10 and started wondering if some entity like that actually exists. When I was 19 I believed that there was strong evidence that aliens had visited Earth in the past. Who knows which of the beliefs that I hold today are equally nonsensical? I am 64 now and somewhere along the way I got degrees in chemistry and in physics and I have often been "accused" of having a scientific mindset. (I take that as a compliment even when I know the person stating it didn't mean it that way! 😜) It's really hard to know which of one's beliefs are utter nonsense and which aren't! Hopefully I have learned to be way more skeptical as I grew older but that doesn't completely protect me from holding nonsensical beliefs and that's true for all humans! At least I know that I can still give up strongly held beliefs even after multiple decades because I did just that about half a year ago. Still, I have no idea what nonsense remains in my little grey cells!
@@ruschein see how arsenal got 36 likes but you got 0? Its because we aren’t talking about religion and you are just begging for attention
@@ruschein also nobody asked lmao
@@a_coloradan8689 I am neither begging for attention nor do I care how many likes I get! And yes, religion is the greatest example for people believing in unsubstantiated nonsense and therefore pertinent in this discussion!
The view from that window is frightening!! But beautiful at the same time
Dear Rusty’s human, I want to keep Rusty. Yours truly, not Rusty’s human
The effort it takes to create/manipulate this kind of footage is almost more difficult than actually going to space
When it comes to the moon landing footage, from a technial standpoint it was easier to send people to the moon than to film something that looked the way it did.
@@RocketboyX Sure it was rocket boy sure it was . Unfortunately all the telimentry data was trashed so hard to back it with numbers and facts .
@@creamwobbly yeah and launching from moon and docking with tiny module was child’s play.
@@rustybeltrebel6213 Any proof ?
@@pierreboissonneault Proof of what ?
people who claim they are in harnesses have never spent time in a harness, not only would what you say in the video be true but spending that much time in a harness without taking weight off of it can lead to toxic shock
I like how you just un-picked their cherries by pulling out the entire broadcast
Sandra's necklace is about the most obvious thing in shot which indicates that this is happening in zero G.
It's also a, fairly common, piece of jewelry which would be hugely expensive to fake using CGI.
Occam‘s razor: exists
Flerfs: I pretend I didn’t see that
If only flerfers put this much mental energy into productive things.
yeah, like a real map or pictures/images showing a wide flat plain spreading off into the distance showing the lights at night of other cities far away .....
I have this feeling that flerfs are not productive people, no matter what they do with their time.
They write some pretty entertaining songs, and make amusing desk knick-knacks.
@@bunnykillerthese kind of things have been shown many times, but you will never hear of it on these channels, I have seen footage if mountain ranges from over 200 miles away which not even the most extreme/convenient amount of refraction would allow to see that far
@@Ellegedly Incorrect. Flat earthers have never been able to put forth an actual functioning map or any of the other things bunny mentioned. All observations line up with a globe expectation. If you think otherwise then by all means provide the picture along with all the necessary data to put it to the test. If you are going to try pic de Finestrelles to pic Gaspard in the alps well that fits the globe just fine as the photographer himself said he tried many different times and got the perfect moment relying upon refraction in order to see it. Furthermore the taller mountain being observed is below the level of the photographer which confirms the curvature of the earth as on a flat earth the other mountain would still be above the level of the photographer.
Flerfs accusing you of "cherry-picking" video clips while asking you to look at one of their cherry-picked video clips. The irony is not strong with them.
And The Cult of The Flatness says, ‘Nuh-UH!’
(tummy rubs for The Most Excellent Doggo ❤️❤️❤️❤️)
I have definite proof that your videos are shot under water. Your "dog" is obviously a seal in disguise 😜
Genetically engineered gills. 🤫
Are you sure it's not a dogfish?
@@kevinskinner4986 Only Hans can get to the bottom of this pantomime! 🙃
@@arctic_haze Would that be Hans Hass, who with his wife Lotte pioneered under water film making and documentaries in the 1950s? Or would that be Hans Wormhat, the all round nutter who believes that just about every animal on the planet is fake?
@@thearmouredpenguin7148 In the flat earth, there is only one Hans. The one who claims that koalas are disaster actors. Yes, Wormhat.
Sadly, with flatards and reality deniers, there's no such thing as 'once and for all'
As the old saying goes, 'You can't teach stupid" 🙄
You can't cure stupid. Being as stupid as a flatard is a disease.
I think we're all stupid, it's just a matter of degree!
@Johannes Ruscheinski
Ignorant, yes, foolish too, but stupid in the science denying flatardian sense is something of a special kind.
A degree is something no flatards will ever have. 😉
@@Zubareffstream111 Well, just look at the millions that believe that there is no climate change caused by humans even though there is near universal consensus in the scientific community or the all the nuts that believe in various conspiracies relating to vaccinations or the millions that believe that Trump's re-election was stolen etc., etc.
Also, don't get me started on religious beliefs! We humans love to believe things that make us feel good, whether it's that we're in on something that others aren't or that we're special etc.
@@Zubareffstream111 Wilfully ignorant people are the worst.
You'd think a multi billion dollar company spanning the globe would have enough money/authority to order a re-take of the shot where everyone's obviously messing with the wires.
Also, spinning around and wires don't go well together. 8:34 Try doing that with wires.
10:33 Obviously "Highrish" doesn't know how a green screen works. It's not for making things overlapping the actors look like something it's not, it's to make the background look like something it's not.
Her hair would be moving around if she was in space
Based on what evidence?
Calm , Rational well reasoned - debunking done pretty well perfectly
😂😂😂😂 which part did tye debunking more like it just showed actual proof of wires 😂😂 dufus tf
OMG!!! You could actually bring some these people on the ISS and they still wouldn't believe it.
Even as they died in agony after “stepping outside” they’d still be thinking “Nah, this hard vacuum that’s killing me isn’t real.”
@@joeschmo3844 They probably would think that someone put the ISS inside a vacuum chamber just to fool them. And after the flerf died, others would think that person was killed to protect the secret.
Nasa never share raw footage
This debunking is absolute bunk.
You're very much welcome to explain why.
I work with a Chroma screen every day as part of my job. A green screen would be blatantly obvious.
But they could use Rear Projection (like they did for the moon landing) or disney sodium vapor
@@MarquisDeSang I cannot tell if you're being serious or not, and that scares me...
@@fafnir242 The earth is flat, join me, we will jump from the edge.
"They faked it by (insert insanely complicated set of explanations that require a stupid amount of effort just to perpetrate a hoax that has no plausible reason to bother perpetrating)."
Really what about the BILLIONS NASA spends every year? It's more than the annual profits of the music, movie/tv, & gaming industries COMBINED...multiple times more. That's nothing?
An all we get is CGI composites and make believe stories in return. The cog dis is real hope you can overcome! Blessings.
Great review. And mentioning that it is just a cut of a much longer, continuous video is a killer. That microphone cord, during rolls and putting over Doug's head is pretty tough to explain as well. It's easy for someone to say 'green screen', but only by those that haven't actually done it. I've learned so much by watching your channel, and you always have a calm, informative approach. Keep it up.
If I am ever graced with the opportunity to visit and inhabit the ISS, I would like to see if I could take with me the LEGO Ideas ISS set to assemble on a live stream.
Then I could ask Flerfers how would that footage be fake when there are 864 LEGO pieces floating about in whatever trajectory they were moving upon opening the bags that contained them.
Of course the real entertainment value would be in seeing me chase after these pieces in a Zero G environment.
Send a message to Elon Musk. Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Never hurts to ask. I'd personally donate to fund even the most staunch FE to send up in space and someone film his face as he's seeing our beautiful planet.
I'd donate to send you up with your idea even. I'm all for showing proof and I know millions would also support. This has to stop its screwing up the future for our Grandkids.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 I don't have an X account, so that might be tough lol
But that would be entertaining as well.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 That would be quite the donation. The funny thing is, LEGO has once used a high atmosphere balloon and broadcasted the entire journey of a bunch of Classic Space Minifigs being sent to near space before eventually landing to the Earth. CZcams doesn't like links, but I think it's somewhere on LEGO's official CZcams channel. Though FE's will likely just claim its CGI.
One of the greatest pieces of evidence is you can go out and see the ISS. Ive seen it fly over a dozen times. It really puts onto perspective how awesome humanity really is. We can do this shit, how awesome!
I don't get why people try to disprove space travel. Do people not like the idea that we can do great things, that we can challenge nature and do things that are far beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors?
The idea! You said it yourself...its nothing more than an idea...a fantastical lie. They programmesd you with science fiction (star wars etc). You have an emotional connection to the lie that is outer space...but what it comes down to is that you feel like you don't have
the strength inside you to accept that you're living a lie
And with regards to you seeing the I.S.S...you have seen something travel across the sky that you've been told is a spaceship....one that is around 100 miles above you and is not much different in size to a jumbo jet.....could u see a jumbo jet if it were at the same height as the supposed I.S.S?
The answer is no....ALSO there are many videos showing the supposed I.S.S fading in and out in the sky...as if it it is nothing more than some kind of holographic projection
Isn't it painful to think that all these flerfs talk about "do your own research" and "I have looked into it", only to point out that they haven't really 'done their own research' or 'looked into it' as they have only watched, listened to and pointed out small snippets of a full video or argument that their papa flerfs have spewed out previously..
These are the same people that were probably told not to copy other peoples homework or test answers as they could be wrong.. and in this case, they very much are.
Also, the fact that Christopher drifts to the left is another reason why he's obviously not on cables.
Yes, if he was on cables he would swing in a gentle arc.
The look on your dogs face at 5m 40 when you talk about microphones is priceless! He is almost saying " That is a load of old shit Dad and you know it!"
It's actually genuinely incredible that the people that claim it's green screens, or wires, or what-have-you clearly have no idea how any of those things work and seem to be ignorant to even how things behave here on earth in regards to gravity, drag and even just being in water.
Yep, that is the funniest part of flerfers and moon hoaxers coming up with comparisons and technical details: they just reveal that they have no clue about those either.
WHATS SO INCREDIBLE ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE COMMENTING ON THINGS THERE NOT EXPERT ON?
IT WOULD LITERALLY BE HARDER TO FAKE THIS, THAN TO DO IT FOR REAL.
So you're saying we should film the fake moon landing... on the moon?!
An excellently placed Mitchell and Webb reference? Why I think so!❤
@@Hawk_of_Battlebut then it wouldn't be fake
@@kittyn5222 that's the point we've been trying to make for years.
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
your videos are great, easy to understand explanations, great examples and editing, and very informative
Thank you, glad people are enjoying them 😊
@@DaveMcKeegan That and Rusty.
CZcams censor comments and videoes about nasa lying, looks sus
If only they WANTED their views to make sense, then this would totally destroy these ridiculous "fake" claims.
The wires dont get tangled with the mic cable because he switches the mic from one hand to another mid roll
THANK YOU! finally someone with a brain lol
@@mikeknight713 You serious? What about the cable at 9:48 what do you think there. It's wild to me that you watch this entire video and you're still convinced its fake because you think that one tiny element could make sense with your theory. Wild!
It’s totally obvious and clear that the microphone cord is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space, and each individual one of her hairs is connected to a harness to give the appearance they’re in outer space, in fact this comment currently is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space 😳
I don't believe you.
Unfortunately the flerfs that watch this video will just "nuh uh" it all away. They cannot accept reality so they must create a vivid fantasy of a flat earth.
This video is a great example of Occam's Razor, something I'm sure Flat Earthers understand, but wrongfully apply all the time.
Debunking the BS is always a good thing. There is always a great potential to keep someone on the brink from falling for the foolishness. There is seldom a chance to reach a true believer who can simply cry 'fake!' at any evidence presented.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
The key with Flat Earth folks is that they have FAITH. Thus they can explain away any facts and logic you present.
Faith? Like Flerfs are a 'Religion' ... or dare I say ... 'Cult' 😂😂😂
@@TheMvoelker1 Yes, like a religion (FE CZcams are their holy scriptures), but no to the cult. There's no leader, just some FE folks are more prominent than others.
I love all the "it has to be fake because [thing that would be impossible on Earth]" claims 😂
Alright sweet now doing one on the people appearing out of nowhere
Not only people. Also objects appearing out of nowhere. Lot of ISS clips clearly identified as cgi and forgery. Maybe not all but a lot.
Because nothing actually exists unless it suits some stupid flat earth theory.
I don't understand the need to cherry pick a few frames and fill the blanks with complete nonsense when the full uncut 20 minute video is available to anyone. 🤷♀
Gotta cherry pick to flerf. It’s a requirement.
i think i have figured it out, its wireless harnesses connected by bluetooth
Ah yes when im in a cgi green screen my jewelry and hair are being manipulated by zero g gravity
If someone was using a green screen for this, they would not have let Sandra take her hair out of that bun. Anyone who has actually worked with green screen knows what a nightmare long, loose hair can be to try to key out in post. It can be done, but it's incredibly difficult and you really need to have a near perfect lighting setup on set to make it look good (which the lighting in this clip is clearly not conducive for high-quality green screen).
Indeed - it is one of the many "why would they bother with that if it could be avoided?" moments. Just like when they move through the whole station without an edit - possible to fake but they could produce hours worth of material when avoiding that. Gravity is just over 90 minutes for a reason.
I watch your "flat earth" video with the same humor of knowing I should not drive by a road way accident, and slow down to view the carnage. You do a great job of countering all of the conspiracy theories of "...it was on a sound stage, with green screen...". Well done Dave.
They can hardly accuse anyone of cherry-picking, considering that is their modus operandi. They trawl through many hours of video, trying to find a few seconds they can claim are faked, while ignoring all that they cannot fault.
The hair is the most interesting thing to me in these video. Not because I think it's proof that it's fake. But because I don't understand why on ISS the hair stays up no matter what but on the 0G plane the hair floats like it's underwater. The hair clearly behaves differently on the ISS and those 0G planes for some reason.
On zero-g-planes, the people usually have nicely washed hair. On the ISS it is more sticky as water is limited.
NASA is like: uuuhhh this peasent cant be helped we invest billions for the space missions and spacecrafts and some people still think its fake
Necklace. NECKLACE! A FREAKING NECKLACE just floating around, but YEEEEEAH harness and hair blah-blah-blah. Are people just selectively blind or something?
Imagine raising a child for 18 years only for them to grow up to be a flat earther.
How to fail as a parent.
Imagine being 18 and finding out your dad is a flat earther. My daughter was about to marry a guy, so we had his parents over for dinner. Future father in law starts going on about how the moon landings are fake. Run away, run away!
@@johnritchie3889 At least with the moon landing conspiracy there's a vaguely plausible reason for faking it even if the evidence isn't conclusive - believing that an unknown cabal of elitists (aka "they") are hiding the shape of the planet for no apparent reason with literally no supporting evidence is another thing altogether. If my daughter's future father in law believed the moon landings were fake I could let that slide ... but if he was a flat earther, yeah I'd have issues.
sounds like you wouldn't be done parenting yet. lol
Imagine raising a child only for them to "grow up" into a spiteful, self-righteous, and judgemental, crowd follower who only appeals to authority and believes everything they hear without actually investigating it themselves. Why are you so bothered by opinions of complete strangers? Even have to hurl insults and talk down on them simply because they have different opinions on something that doesn't harm or affect you. It's really ignorant and only serves to slow your growth. Rise above it you are better than that. Be an adult.
They're obviously using blood magic to get those effects, come on Dave use your brain (this is satire)
Why does no-one ever talk about L and P waves to prove the earth is a globe
Because it goes right over the flerfs' heads.
@@Mandelbrot_Set or under their feet 😁
Or the fact that if you do a head stand, all the blood rushes to your head....cuz ya know...gravity? Not one single flerf has ever been able to explain why a pressurized system like that behaves the way it does on a "flat earth"
@KorbinX what's their excuse for gravity? Buoyancy isn't it? 🤷
@@davidbugden8548 Or they claim that when you put different densities next to each other, it magically create a downward force. They only made that up a couple of years ago.