Christianity As Mystical Fact 1/12: Rudolf Steiner - The path from belief to experience of Christ.
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2023
- Jeff and I embark on a voyage of discovery into Rudolf Steiner's transformational book "Christianity As Mystical Fact: And the Mysteries of Antiquity". What is a mystical fact? What organ of cognition does it presuppose?
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During the fall and winter of 1901-02, Steiner gave a series of lectures called “Christianity as Mystical Fact” to members of the Theosophical Society. The lectures were rewritten and issued as a book later that year. They mark a watershed in the development of Western esotericism. Steiner wrote of the idea behind his book:
“The title Christianity as Mystical Fact was one I gave to this work eight years ago, when I gathered together the content of lectures given in 1902. It was meant to indicate the special approach adopted in the book. Its theme is not just the mystical side of Christianity in a historical presentation. It was meant to show, from the standpoint of a mystical awareness, how Christianity came into being.
“Behind this was the idea that spiritual happenings were factors in the emergence of Christianity, which could only be observed from such a point of view. It is for the book itself to demonstrate that, by ‘mystical,’ I do not in any way imply a vague intuition rather than strict scientific argument. In many circles, mysticism is understood as just that, and therefore it is distinguished from the concerns of all ‘genuine’ science.
“In this book, however, I use the term to mean a ‘presentation of spiritual reality’―a reality accessible only to a knowledge drawn from the sources of spiritual life itself. Anyone who denies the possibility of such knowledge in principle will find its contents hard to comprehend; any reader who accepts the idea that mysticism may coexist with the clarity of the natural sciences, may acknowledge that the mystical aspect of Christianity must be described mystically.” - Zábava
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Look forward to reading along! Thanks guys!
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The greatest words God ever spoke were spoken during the process of the creation of nature, the universe, the laws and principles in that everything we need, all our capacity, capabilities were made through the creation process and there is no-thing missing or to be added or to be removed, we are whole, there is no separation between nature and man, existence is one undivided whole
Life is then is process of discovery, it is not a process of becoming, it is a process of discovering our wholeness as being
Why Steiner used the word 'mystical' in the title?!
'Christianity As MYSTICAL Fact' translates into 'Christianity as ETERNAL Fact'?
In episode 4/12 we will be looking more into the difference between mythos and reason which further helps understand the use of "mystical fact". Pherecydes of Syros is very interesting in this context as he was capable of both mythical (imaginative) and reasoned descriptions of the true, good and beautiful.
@@TheExceptionalState Looking forward to that!
You and Jeff go into details that many times I tend to glance over - which makes your discussions extremely instructive. Thank you for that, Angus 🙏
Hello Mr Jeff
hello Alex
Mystical fact, isn't that an oxymoron?
Not at all. There all kinds of facts: historical and scientific facts yes, but also poetic facts, religious facts, aesthetic facts, musical facts, and so on. All facts are experiential, based on the perception of their occurrence, and therefore also more subjective than objective. It follows, then, that not every experience is had by others, for example, the experiences of yogis or long-term meditators.
@@PetrusSolus As far as eye know there is no such thing as a mystical fact or religious fact, not even God or the existence of God is a fact, God cannot be proven or disproven..
The sun is a fact, thinking is a biological fact, process and yet what is thinking is not a fact, that's the main reason why there is so much violence fueled by the belief in God, because believers want to force non-believer to submit to what believers say is true.
And the more believers talk about God the less credible they sound, truth cannot be force and cannot be proven or given or made real with words.
The vast space between all form, the silence between all sound, the stillness between all movement that's it! Nameless, formless, sees without eyes, hears without ears, touches and creates without hands, all knowing never went to school
Not once you've experienced it, in fact, its the only way it becomes fact.
@@mitakon21 A mystical experience is not a fact, a fact is something that can be proven for all to see, a fact is a self evident reality
Hi Alex - Riddle me this as the joker would say :)
Non-believers also believe in their own beliefs, consequently the term non-believers could at best be called other-believers.
Concerning your statement about facts. All experience is a fact and is first made conscious through thinking, so recognition of a fact is inconceivable without thinking. To test this idea. Name to yourself one thing without thinking about it and you will realize the impossibility of this. You might be able to experience it without thinking about it, but as soon as it comes to naming it you have thought about it.@@alxartzen