Wayne is always in the convo. If you look at everything he’s done, while also having Drake and Nicki, he’s arguably the 🐐. To m, me, Wayne and Hov are the top 2.
@@previnjohn8584 I agree but there's a lot of people who think it's laughable that he's mentioned as the goat. Most of them are people from up north who think their lineage of rappers is the end all be all
Wayne had one of the greatest peaks, longevity, classic projects, multiple hit records, a talented wordsmith, and arguably the biggest influence of any other rapper besides maybe Kanye. From an objective standpoint he has a strong case for goat
Right I feel it. Personally I feel Wayne is the greatest of all time. But these are opinions. That’s why I always say “arguably” the greatest cause I can argue all day on why he is. Lol
@@937youngjay yup I agree. That’s why I feel we have to use certain qualifiers to determine somewhat (even tho you’re right it’s impossible because music is subjective). But Wayne literally checks every box. Sold a milli in a week twice, hits for decades, he can rap damn good, and he has more kids than everyone of his generation. Him with a couple other names are literally what hip hop would look like if they were in the dictionary book
I don't even think Kanye could measure. Him and Jay released an album same week as the Carter 3 and it outsold them. Watch The Throne sold a million less copies. And Wayne won 4 grammies that year. Which was the most ever for a rapper. He dominated the market.
I think the goat is subjective to the time you grew up from teens to 25. Lil Wayne is a top 10 but GOAT nah Jay-Z has more longevity than him. More influential when jay said no crome on my wheels ppl stopped putting crome on the wheels, no throw back jersey button ups kids still wear button ups 20yrs later but wayne is up there
Wayne is just so diverse with his music he can rap about anything and everything gets on peoples beats and takes ownership he's just out of this world and he dont write that just sums it up right there
U seen him not right cause his freestyles be trash bro u speaking highly of a man u never been in the studio with y yall do that like u be right there wayne trash drugs cocaine pill syrup snorting heroin thats yo idol smh
Wayne’s skillset, versatility, impact, longevity, body of work, and like you said leadership (Drake and Nicki) makes him the 🐐. Can’t name another rapper who literally OWNED the game and had it on a chokehold for a solid 4-5 years. Just think about the albums, mixtapes and features. Drake and Nicki were top 5 in the 2010s. Wayne is bigger than hip hop. He made everyone bring their A game on tracks and a whole generation wanted to be like Wayne. To me, Wayne is the Kobe of Hip Hop.
@@allaboutthemurziclil Wayne pussy bars won’t be enough too go up against Makaveli c’mon now lil wayne rhymes about popping pills homie what the fuck is you talking about
It's not Wayne's fault he's still alive. Pac didn't get this kind of worship in mass when he was alive...I remember.. And Wayne has influenced an entire generation more than once. I disagree, but if Wayne is someone's GOAT, I'm not complaining.
Wayne was the 1st to go #1 while being iincarcerated since Tupac & then came out and outsold watch the throne by double, essentially selling a million records back to back with his C3 & C4 additions
@@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze Wayne def has influence their were several artist who tried to steal his flow and we even have a new super star rapper because of Wayne and that’s young thug and uzi(Uzi kinda stole thug’s flow💯🤷🏾♂️)but you have to look at 2pac influence as well, it’s been 25 years later and people are still comparing artists to 2pac and still talking about him the man is dead and people are still not letting him Rest In Peace lol 😂and people are still using quotes pac said from past interviews to this very day. Pac music is timeless his music will always hit and the same goes for wayne💯
Id say wayne is the best just cause like WTF do you rap about when you don did everything.? For 2pac all that was left was good music cause he was poppin and died when he was popppin. Where wayne been doing this for 25+ years. What do you rap now?
@Aisha Mohamed you a lil jit I am from the old school the true school Florida love 2pac tha same way we love 2 live crew Trick daddy Rick Ross and everyone who put on for the crib !
Pedarabbit Mlk nah bro Lil Wayne has done way more at this point from sales to money to putting on other artists to everything PAC don’t compare sorry bro.
Pac...1st to put out a double disc, 1st to wear a record label as a chain, 1st to be considered a serious actor, 1st to make bandanas fashionable....there's more, but I'll stop there.
I can't with this dude...lil wayne😬 is the goat? LMAO 🤣 he's great but Damm.....2Pac is the Gold Standard.....Why y'all think all these dudes wear tattoos...no shirts... I could keep going...Dude died at 25...25....I'ma stop right there....🤦🏽♂️💯
@@dj1835 No the "Gold Standard" is to be the best for decades and keep doing it and nobody can stop u!!!! And keep getting money, and keep making great music, and keep taking care of your family, and keep putting new artists on and feed their families. And that's exactly wtf Wayne has done!!!! Time and time again. Stop playing with the greatest to do this rap shi+. Yall wack asf
I gotta say, Pac is way more then the People’s champ. Lyrics matter, pac made timeless songs, with meaning not just gangsta shit. Real songs. Wayne is a great rapper, but he cant compare to 2pac. Just saying. 👍 great podcast
Wayne is better than pack lyrically tho tf how is this even questionable has 2pac made people search for certain words because of his wordplay, bars and punchlines 💀
@Theoretical Toxic Wayne's songs have no meaning lol, they're just songs. Pacs music is like scripture, Pac is wayyy better than Wayne 🤷🏿♂️ yall just not deep thinkers.
The facts that 2Pac is always mentioned when it comes to these “goat” conversations automatically makes him the goat. He’s been dead 26 yrs and STILL TALKED ABOUT
Wayne freestyles and if you listen to each verse from over 600 songs not including features and he has never said the same bar twice. It took me 20 years to actually admit it based off those facts that Wayne is by far the best to ever do it!!!
But his music is still relevant because it specifically relates to and speaks on alot of things in the Melanated community that are still happening to this day
@@shametrickpowell6918Take your identity politics bullshit somewhere else there is no “melanated community” black people arent a monolith thats all in 1 community
I honestly respect what he saying. On paper Lil Wayne is probably the Goat. When you look at longevity and impact he definitely deserves some credit. Wayne was the best rapper in his age group for a long time. People forget he was part of history and was going gold and plat well before The Carter series!
Wayne the GOAT. He brought me, a middle class white boy, into loving the culture and loving rap. I remember the first time I ever listened to Tha Carter II and it brought into a music I forever will love. Weezy the GOAT 4 life.
I still bump Dedication2,3,drought 3 all the time what do you mean Wayne murdered PAC with his own ambitions as a ridah beat I know you’ve heard it lol
Im with you bruh and it's a few comments througout the comment section trying to defame the King. His music was full of passion, thought, love of self, protection, growth, God, creation and will he felt when played many years from now.
What does that even mean? I can list off a hundred rappers throughout the years that were only concerned about being original or just wanted to make music for their city or state. Then there’s Uncle Luke nem’ and the Florida movement. Down there it’s part of the culture to dance. In fact, that was rap’s original purpose. Too Short is a bonafide legend. Is he really rapping? I could go on and on. It’s all rap
Pac was never dropped. His first album was gold. He second Album was multi platinum. His third album was platinum thuglife. His 4th album was multiplatinum. Then he got locked up and then interscope was talking about dropping him because of the rape case so Suge got him..
Pac is like Bob marley he got songs that are timeless ...you can play them a 1000 years from now. Wicked you lost I'm sorry 💯. Wayne ain't got 'em Ross ain't got em I'll just stop there...
@@ogbobbyjohnson9981 Gillie eventually said himself that He didn't write for Wayne & that when Wayne was working on The Carter album He(Gillie) would be in the studio with Wayne and Gillie said He would give Wayne pointers on his Flow/ Delivery and certian Words to say & Gillie had left Cash Money when Carter 2 was made which Also said When Wayne was flamming shit on them Sqad Up 1-5 Mixtapes Gillie wasn't around Wayne Just like Gillie wasn't around during The Hot Boy era
Huh? I didn't say nothing about money. The only rapper to have 77 songs to go gold or platinum in one year that he was involved in and nobody else has ever done it! Which means a lot of fans not money
Artistic Integrity has to be included when considering GOAT status. People conveniently use record sales as a qualifier for greatness. But we all know how a record is backed and that influence on pop culture. We must consider the quality of the bodies of work. And for this debate it goes to BHigh again.
Wayne changed the influence on culture. It's the reason I respect him more than most rappers. I don't like what rap has become, but a lot of rappers try to emulate him and its sad to see their lack of talent. He's literally a genius at what he does.
We can argue about who the greatest is all day but if you're asking who the *most influential* figure in the history of Hip Hop is, there is no discussion to be had. It can only be Wayne.
Pac cant freestyle? What? He freestyled the verse on homies and thugs on the scarface album and that is better than Wayne's shit. Pac did songs in one take and so fast it might as well been freestyled. Listen to how edi described when they recorded hit em up. Pac did his verse and after fatal went...pac said oh shit he killed it and then went and did the second verse...after edi finished the song pac went in there and went off at the end...that funny sound during his rant was the mic acting up to that fire pac was saying and they didnt go back and edit anything.
@@vontooreal9946 Wayne's mixtapes are better than Wayne's albums. He was the best at shitting on people hence the quote "When I'm 70 years old and I'm shittin on myself, cause I'm so sick and tired of shittin on everybody else."
If you’re talking record sales then then Eminem has that. Wayne is number 5 on that list. Relevancy is still Pac. Hell all you gotta do as a new rapper is say something negative about Pac to get your publicity. Just a couple years ago that was the new rappers rollout and promo. Pac had more movies, if you’re mentioning movies. If you’re saying he has more money than Ross, TI and Luda...we don’t know that to be true because Baby said “contracts are made to be re-contracted” and Wayne was trying to sue him plus he just sold his masters so money may be looking kinda funny. Just saying. Did Wayne get Nicki hot or did Nicki get hot when she was running with Gucci and Deb Antney?! Wayne just came in and put the bow on an already wrapped present. Free styling doesn’t mean as much if you ain’t saying sh!t Money doesn’t mean you’re the best bruh. Rudy Gobert for the Utah Jazz just signed a bigger contract than Hakeem Olojuwon ever signed but that doesn’t mean Rudy Gobert is better than Hakeem The Dream! Now the Mike Vs Prince thing is a little different. Mike was the “icon” but Prince was the better artist...he played 21 different instruments, completed an entire album solo(wrote, recorded, arranged etc) and wrote for too many people to name..even rock and roll groups.
I don't disagree. Eminem with Dre created the whole aftermath culture when 50 Cent came out. And they traded back and forth for a while until Lil Wayne dominated the market. He made both Nicki and Drake. There was. Period of time where they were untouchable. Wayne even outsold Kayne and Jay Z together when they made their collab album.
If you don’t wanna talk time, then you can’t put them in the same argument, and I did t like Tupac as a person (in the end character), but he was more prolific and profound, with more cultural content for us, than Wayne. Wayne said he never had a problem wit police, he’s a drug addict and he kisses grown men, and he had writers. Can you say Gillis da kid (Smh) @ Wicked!!!
This guy is hater.had the nerve to bring up sales 🤣 pac rapped 4 years & sold over 75 mill wayne rapped over 23 years & sold 100 mill 🤔🤷 & that 100 mill is sketchy i doubt he even sold that
@@vontooreal9946 you cant count mixtapes. half the mix tapes are over hit records recorded by other artist with the best beats from top producers.he even uses the same hooks as the other artists sometimes.& its a dumb comparison & has nothing to do with the point i made.your comparing Wayne's 25 year career to pac 4 year career that almost sold more than Wayne's entire 25 years.nice try tho
@@vontooreal9946 Wayne mix tapes better than his own albums 😂 but to each is own.with out pac there's no telling if Wayne would even had made all that music. NOBODY was making hundreds of songs like that before pac. & the fact that you even comparing 2pac to wayne speaks volumes.wayne is 2nd in my book only because 99% of his music didnt age well as pacs.
Pac music is timeless you can hear is music still being played everywhere..Wayne nor Em have that type of music..Pac had that charisma and realness that made him the GOAT...
Im 41 i grew up listening to Tupac in my high school years..Me against the world got me through alot of hardships throughout my late teens and earlier 20s ..I acknowledge Em for his wordsmith abilities but he wasn’t the voice for my life as a blk boy turning into a Man..My 5 favorite rappers are Paris,Tupac,Nas,Playa fly,Wise intelligent , Chief kamachi,Tech n9ne,T-Rock,San Quinn ,C-BO ,Cormega,and tragedy khadafi
I love Wayne but I can’t put him over Tupac. He did more than just rap and he actually lived and unfortunately died by his word. A lot of these rappers have been able to rap about and profit off these lifestyles they don’t actually live or even condone. Wayne is super creative and has a way with words that most don’t but that’s all he have done is rap. Tupac transcended “rap” and truly left words and influence as well as his actions has continue to help mold us as a race and culture. I love both tho. Tupac just more dynamic and layered
2Pac is the people's champ and the GOAT! I'd put lil Wayne second and Jay-Z third. Nobody had people's hearts or the streets like Pac. He was ahead of his time.
@Big Jay You obviously have not seen the influences when 2pac died, 2pac had alot of rappers trying to be like him and sound like him. Lol! Wayne isn't better than MAKAVELI. 💯
Mayyn.. We all know where Pac came from, stood for, how he rolled etc etc And 30 years later they and ya fav rapper still study them albums 'cause they wanna be like, rap like, look like, tatt like, thug like.... That's a OG Class period lol
@@neednoname8095 Point is that we still talkin bout 'Pac and what he did years after he changed the game then left it up to us... Wayne talent & $ aside all that had long been OG shit... Especially between Tejas-Louisiana by time he and the squares who bought those records jumped the train tryin to bite lol
WICKED YOU STARTING TO LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY!!!! L.L. COOL J is AHEAD OF WAYNE!! 2PAC GOT THEM IN HIS REARVIEW!! EMINEM SOLD MORE RECORDS THAN ANYONE SO IS HE THE GOAT?
@Live Life In Love 1111 2PAC & BIGGIE, JAY-Z ,EM. I'm PRETTY SURE YOU'RE ABOUT 30 or younger so I can understand why you feel this way. It's your opinion so I respect that. 2PAC and Biggie music is TIMELESS Wayne music is an ERA. I like WAYNE better when he was with the Hot Boys.
Exactly and he isn’t a story teller, I’ve never heard a Wayne song where he stayed consistent and stayed on one compete subject matter. Thats his one deficiency to me.
This is where I think people go wrong with Wayne. He's a beast. Some people only judge his albums, some people judge his features which are amazing, but most overstep his mixtapes where he kills it. He has his fair amount of Dad jokes and puns, but when you really listen to songs where he stays on one particular topic it's the best.
Wayne is the best rapper to ever live that's just facts now 2pac he's a goat a legend but if he was still here no I don't think anybody could be next to Wayne or even above him he passed Elvis in a year nobody else has done that even pac when he was alive didn't do it
Hahaha if pac was still here you would have never heard about lil wayne! Whaha he would be flippin burgers in McDonald's if pac didnt pass away. Dont get it fucked up. 2pac: 5 years off making music/ passes away more then 25 years ago. Lil wayne almost 20 years off making music/ until this day. And yoh think you can compare the two?! Whaha in 25 years nobody will be listing to this Lil wayne guy, nobody will even know him. Accept you mumble rappers fanboys! Tupac was more then rap!
Wayne has been relevant in rap for over 20 yrs. He revolutionized the mixtape game. He revolutionized the mainstream game. Easily the most influential rapper of all time. Gave us TWO other arguable GOATS. Has the catalog to compete with multiple other arguable GOATS in a versus and not even use the same tracks. His work ethic is unmatched. I can go on and on but the fact that he is an arguable goat can't be debated.
Think about the impact 2 pac continuous to make 27 years after his death. Tupacs clothing still sells. Albums still sell, stories are still told and his music is still playing everywhere because it’s timeless. Lil Wayne’s music was great but it was only great during the times it was hot.
Wayne is gonna go down as AT LEAST top 3 but people not gonna give him his full credit until he's not here too hear the love ....its always like that smh
This is tha REALEST Lil Wayne breakdown CZcams has ever seen! Wayne is definitely tha Greatest of All Time 🔥🐐 4 Generations of Being Famous while Staying Relevant, 1M streams in 24hrs on a 2020 mixtape and most Importantly Still Alive💪🏾 Put Strength on that❣
And i fuck with wayne hard as a teen but eventually we grow up and realize people aren't always who they appear to be. He has writers he never made a good body of work after carter 3 because the writers on that album made it a classic
What do you get from Wayne's music . No story telling , he ain't giving you no game . Just a bunch of raps . Do he got a Brenda's Got a Baby , Friend like me , Holla if You Hear Me , Against All Odds , Out Law , Made Niggaz . Y'all need to chill fam .
He definitely has those kind of songs tho out there and people act like he doesn’t that’s what irritates me sometimes when they talk about Wayne and I could give u a whole list don’t get me started smh
Wayne has so much music we forget about his storytelling. That song with Kendrick lamar is one of the greatest story telling rap songs of all time. Not to mention old wayne before the Carter. He was legit
@@brotherLee340 Didn't that song wit K Dot come out like a year ago . I'm talking bout over all . Not 1 or 2 songs . He just dropped like 2 albums in the last few years . That shit came and went . I think Wayne dope , but he ain't fucking wit Tupac Shakur on no levels . He need to quit the freestyle shit and put some thought into it . Lol !!!
@@dblock5279 I use to listen to Wayne when he first came out wit the Hot Boys . He stood out to me for sure . But when he start spitting that fire man shit it was over . I CAN LISTEN TO THE BARS ON THAT SONG BY ITSELF and tell Gillie wrote that shit . I wouldn't be surprised if Drake wrote for him .
Long Live Pac👑 Lil Wayne good but he ain’t rumbled in the jungle 💯 Pac went up against the best in his time. Wayne was reluctant to respond to Pusha T who would have bodied him. Stop your foolishness
Bro Wicked is wrong Lil Wayne ain’t sold almost 200 million albums not even close he’s sold close to that many singles with features from other top artists like Chris Brown,Drake, and Nikki to name a few but as far as Personal Albums Tupac has sold way more than Lil Wayne look it us Lil Wayne doesn’t have not one Diamond Album that’s 10 million Tupac has two and you can’t compare someone who was only in the music industry for 5 years Tupac to 22 years Lil Wayne smh 🤦🏽♂️ if Wayne died at 25 we wouldn’t even be havin this argument Tupac accomplished more in 5 years of a career than anybody in music history I’m talking peoples first five years who accomplished more nobody
To be honest. Wayne is always debatable. He's one of them names you throw out and can't really dispute. If he aint a Goat, he's in the conversation
Wayne is always in the convo. If you look at everything he’s done, while also having Drake and Nicki, he’s arguably the 🐐. To m,
me, Wayne and Hov are the top 2.
@Certified Big Dog who
@@previnjohn8584 I agree but there's a lot of people who think it's laughable that he's mentioned as the goat. Most of them are people from up north who think their lineage of rappers is the end all be all
Wayne is dope, but aint doper than 2PAC at all... He aint even on PAC'S level
Because he is the goat…. He has the longevity. Tupac and Biggie was only around for 3-4 years lol
Wayne had one of the greatest peaks, longevity, classic projects, multiple hit records, a talented wordsmith, and arguably the biggest influence of any other rapper besides maybe Kanye. From an objective standpoint he has a strong case for goat
Right I feel it. Personally I feel Wayne is the greatest of all time. But these are opinions. That’s why I always say “arguably” the greatest cause I can argue all day on why he is. Lol
@@937youngjay yup I agree. That’s why I feel we have to use certain qualifiers to determine somewhat (even tho you’re right it’s impossible because music is subjective). But Wayne literally checks every box. Sold a milli in a week twice, hits for decades, he can rap damn good, and he has more kids than everyone of his generation. Him with a couple other names are literally what hip hop would look like if they were in the dictionary book
I don't even think Kanye could measure. Him and Jay released an album same week as the Carter 3 and it outsold them. Watch The Throne sold a million less copies. And Wayne won 4 grammies that year. Which was the most ever for a rapper. He dominated the market.
I think the goat is subjective to the time you grew up from teens to 25. Lil Wayne is a top 10 but GOAT nah Jay-Z has more longevity than him. More influential when jay said no crome on my wheels ppl stopped putting crome on the wheels, no throw back jersey button ups kids still wear button ups 20yrs later but wayne is up there
@@Michael-H23 if u listen to all the top rappers it’s all Wayne every top rapper rn is influenced by his sound
Wayne is just so diverse with his music he can rap about anything and everything gets on peoples beats and takes ownership he's just out of this world and he dont write that just sums it up right there
U seen him not right cause his freestyles be trash bro u speaking highly of a man u never been in the studio with y yall do that like u be right there wayne trash drugs cocaine pill syrup snorting heroin thats yo idol smh
@@tnezzstl657 lol you know and i know cant nobody fuck with that man stop it G.O.A.T
Course he wrote stop it
Wayne’s skillset, versatility, impact, longevity, body of work, and like you said leadership (Drake and Nicki) makes him the 🐐. Can’t name another rapper who literally OWNED the game and had it on a chokehold for a solid 4-5 years.
Just think about the albums, mixtapes and features. Drake and Nicki were top 5 in the 2010s. Wayne is bigger than hip hop. He made everyone bring their A game on tracks and a whole generation wanted to be like Wayne.
To me, Wayne is the Kobe of Hip Hop.
@@previnjohn8584 mannn you aint never lied
People keep sleeping on Wayne! I respect this man for speaking the truth!
A lot of rappers had most successful careers than Pac but weren't as impactful as him. Tupac spoke to us in our worst and best times.
Only EM Sold more Records.
Impact has nothing to do with skill get him in a cypher with Wayne and he’s getting bar to death
It aint about “speaking to you” l
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I like pac. Im from the west side but. Lil wayne would outrap that man all day everyday
who outdid tupac at 25 years of age? who has more body of work than Tupac at that age? what is lil wayne's body of work looking like when he was 25?
@@allaboutthemurziclil Wayne pussy bars won’t be enough too go up against Makaveli c’mon now lil wayne rhymes about popping pills homie what the fuck is you talking about
PAC only lived 25 years & did more for the culture & not just in music!!! Stop it. What song has Wayne dropped that has ever changed the world?
Thank u brotha and wit that said u got best comment award and I'm gone ✌🏾✌🏾 THUG LIFE my nigga keep supportin the Real
It's not Wayne's fault he's still alive. Pac didn't get this kind of worship in mass when he was alive...I remember.. And Wayne has influenced an entire generation more than once. I disagree, but if Wayne is someone's GOAT, I'm not complaining.
Like the man said muthafucka what song has wayne made that changed the world???
Like what? Pose nude in bathtub pics and get slumped in every city across america?? 🤣🤣 you should be a comedian
@@MrBroderickg14 he's the reason why young black males can cross dress on rap stages with rainbow hair 🤣🌈👯♀️
TUPAC. ALL EYES ON ME....
TUPAC. ALL GUYZ ON ME...
@@2pacisgay955 STFU
@@DUDULALALALALALA whopper jr. Sir?
@@2pacisgay955 YOUR MY PUNCHING BAG LITTLE MAN
@@DUDULALALALALALA youlike to punch it in the back of 2 pacs
There will never be another pac idc what anyone says no one will be on Tupac level if he was still alive image how many followers he would have
Biggie was better just saying
Wayne was the 1st to go #1 while being iincarcerated since Tupac & then came out and outsold watch the throne by double, essentially selling a million records back to back with his C3 & C4 additions
2pac always be the g.o.a.t
Join The Debate!! Who Do You Thing Is Greatest Rapper Of All Time? Name Whoever You Feel Is The GOAT!
Pac!!
I love Pac..but ima have to say LL COOL J......my 1st rap tape btw
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Lil Wayne all day everyday!! 💯 💯 💯
Makaveli ain't no ghost writing and his shit facts
I respect his opinion because Wayne can really rap and has punchlines for days he’s def one of the best to ever do it 💯but Wayne anit no 2pac💯🤷🏾♂️
Forreal. Wayne is a living legend in rap. And I don't wanna take anything away from that man. But Pac is an icon. Period. Not just in rap either.
Facts Tupac's music still resonates in today's society and it's been 25 yrs. Them hits is timeless
2Pac ain’t Wayne either (respectfully).
The greatest power is influence. Wayne directly influenced several generations of rap to this day. Undeniable.
@@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze Wayne def has influence their were several artist who tried to steal his flow and we even have a new super star rapper because of Wayne and that’s young thug and uzi(Uzi kinda stole thug’s flow💯🤷🏾♂️)but you have to look at 2pac influence as well, it’s been 25 years later and people are still comparing artists to 2pac and still talking about him the man is dead and people are still not letting him Rest In Peace lol 😂and people are still using quotes pac said from past interviews to this very day. Pac music is timeless his music will always hit and the same goes for wayne💯
2pac was screaming love and peace one minute and screaming f the world and started an entire east coast west coast beef he was a hypocrite!
He didn’t want them PAC lyrics though!!!🤣🤣🤣💯Weezy did his thang but he’s a different artist than 2pac was. Both Goats in their own right!
What you mean "did his thang" lol that man haven't stopped yet !!!!!
Id say wayne is the best just cause like WTF do you rap about when you don did everything.? For 2pac all that was left was good music cause he was poppin and died when he was popppin. Where wayne been doing this for 25+ years. What do you rap now?
Can’t be 2 GOATs only Wayne 😏
I fuck wit Wayne but Pac The Goat
2pac hands down Florida nigga's fuck wit pac 305 Miami overtown in here 🌴 !
@Aisha Mohamed you a lil jit I am from the old school the true school Florida love 2pac tha same way we love 2 live crew Trick daddy Rick Ross and everyone who put on for the crib !
@@donkryders8954 Right, 2pac all day. 💯
2pac is the greatest that’s y we talking about him now 20 sumt years ago we still talking bout him
Wayne been around for 25+ years and here we are talking about Wayne, it don’t matter if your alive or dead if you relevant you relevant idaf
Juren Moses that’s y Tupac the best
Pedarabbit Mlk nah bro Lil Wayne has done way more at this point from sales to money to putting on other artists to everything PAC don’t compare sorry bro.
Pedarabbit Mlk Wayne is like the new 2pac but without the positive subject matter and much more success.
Juren Moses you ain’t listening to his songs
His name let's me know it's no truth in him
Bro........You have "Pope" n your name!?!
@@dwayneparker995 yup and yours is was given by a slave massa
@@carolcitypopepope3179 Too gangsta fam. You didn't have to do that to the youngin'.
@@LurnWell 😂💯
@@carolcitypopepope3179 so whats your name?...
Wayne music lacks substance.....I expect this from the younger generation, but this somebody grandfather up here talking this nonsense
I respect Wayne but 2 pac Was the first ever rapper to go diamond
No outkast was
White man paperwork 🤣
@@jonaswatkins2478 VANILLA ICE, MC HAMMER
Wayne was the first to sell a million the week before streams
2pac loved wearing diamonds like a female
Dear Mama, I Get Around, Brenda's Got A Baby, Pain.....timeless music
Yes wayne music 1 play never touch again pac u can listen to his song all day
Carter 1, Carter 2, Block Is Hot, Droughts 1-3, are y'all fuckin stupid? Wayne changed the culture. Tupac was just more woke!!
Pac...1st to put out a double disc, 1st to wear a record label as a chain, 1st to be considered a serious actor, 1st to make bandanas fashionable....there's more, but I'll stop there.
I can't with this dude...lil wayne😬 is the goat? LMAO 🤣 he's great but Damm.....2Pac is the Gold Standard.....Why y'all think all these dudes wear tattoos...no shirts... I could keep going...Dude died at 25...25....I'ma stop right there....🤦🏽♂️💯
@@dj1835 No the "Gold Standard" is to be the best for decades and keep doing it and nobody can stop u!!!! And keep getting money, and keep making great music, and keep taking care of your family, and keep putting new artists on and feed their families. And that's exactly wtf Wayne has done!!!! Time and time again. Stop playing with the greatest to do this rap shi+. Yall wack asf
He (2pac)set the pace for all of them.
Thank You!!
2pac set himself up for failure ever since his first ballet interview 😄
She (tutupac) was the fakest and fruittiest of them all
Tupac wasn’t shit
@@jigglesstephens1637 literally not at all
I gotta say, Pac is way more then the People’s champ. Lyrics matter, pac made timeless songs, with meaning not just gangsta shit. Real songs. Wayne is a great rapper, but he cant compare to 2pac. Just saying. 👍 great podcast
Wayne is better than pack lyrically tho tf how is this even questionable has 2pac made people search for certain words because of his wordplay, bars and punchlines 💀
@Theoretical Toxic Wayne's songs have no meaning lol, they're just songs. Pacs music is like scripture, Pac is wayyy better than Wayne 🤷🏿♂️ yall just not deep thinkers.
@@theoreticaltoxic9058lil Wayne doesn’t have a dear momma & keep ya head up 🤷🏿♂️
@@47times_officialyou obviously don’t listen to The Carter 1 or 2 , you just ass talkin .
Lil Wayne literally influenced a whole generation and put Drake and Nicki on but pac is dang near almost like the Jesus Christ of rap
Beautifully said. I always say PAC is the Muhammad Ali of Rap. They even know Tupac in African villages
Cos he died in his prime
Imagine if Wayne died in his prime
@@EKowAmaruShow Wouldn't have one timeless record
Pac Was A Hypocrite
@@lorenzowright5814 How
The facts that 2Pac is always mentioned when it comes to these “goat” conversations automatically makes him the goat. He’s been dead 26 yrs and STILL TALKED ABOUT
Facts!! And only made music for 5 years!! And has 10 times more of hits then all these rappers in there whole carrier whaha
100% fact
Thats cause his era tends to claim him as the goat a lot so you gotta let them mfs know
Lil Wayne is greatest rapper to ever live 2pac maybe in the top 10
only because he died the way he did
*2pac looking down from heaven* ....."What do we have here nooow"?
B High much love but you need to start drug testing this dude!!!
Wayne is the goat!!!!
@@larrylamar4359 fam you can’t be serious. Wayne was dope and he paved the way for a lot of rappers. But we need to pump the brakes on that 🐐 stamp.
Wayne freestyles and if you listen to each verse from over 600 songs not including features and he has never said the same bar twice. It took me 20 years to actually admit it based off those facts that Wayne is by far the best to ever do it!!!
Correct
2pac is missed dont confuse relevancy with a legacy
But his music is still relevant because it specifically relates to and speaks on alot of things in the Melanated community that are still happening to this day
Stop capping
Um his music remains more relevant today than most.
@@shametrickpowell6918Take your identity politics bullshit somewhere else there is no “melanated community” black people arent a monolith thats all in 1 community
Wayne is the best to ever do it all these dumbass 2Pac and JayZ stans are clowns
Pac didn’t have a ghost writer
wayne didnt have a ghost writer
I honestly respect what he saying. On paper Lil Wayne is probably the Goat. When you look at longevity and impact he definitely deserves some credit. Wayne was the best rapper in his age group for a long time. People forget he was part of history and was going gold and plat well before The Carter series!
He smoking that ATL reggie heavy
Lmaooooo laced wit some crack in it
By the bowl 🤣🤣🤣
@@jtmoney5174 out a foil pipe
@@pep2st8p64 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm in tears! Lmmfao!
Wicked done lost his damn mind. He saying controversial shit just for the sake of saying it.
Wayne the GOAT. He brought me, a middle class white boy, into loving the culture and loving rap. I remember the first time I ever listened to Tha Carter II and it brought into a music I forever will love. Weezy the GOAT 4 life.
He’s nowhere near the GOAT. I have several legends that are better that I can recommend
U know how many white ppl 2pac/ nwa/wu tang brought into rap ? Lol
@@yusufabdullah5008 GOAT imo
@@marvinbennett8384 I don’t disagree. I grew up with Wayne, that’s what I was saying.
@@camfranson1194 I know
Noooooo Sir!!! Wayne is hard but his music doesn’t resonate like Pac’s music.
No sir wayne ain't no more harder than my kitten's ass
@@c-bulletstheblackjesus4230 you a hater big time 😂🤣😂
I still bump Dedication2,3,drought 3 all the time what do you mean Wayne murdered PAC with his own ambitions as a ridah beat I know you’ve heard it lol
@@zerofear2943 they hating on Wayne bro they don’t know shit
This man is on DRUGS
I'm over here yelling at my phone like🗣don't let him do that BHigh!
N.I.C.C.A TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR is the GOAT!! 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Tupac is fake and fruity...the only dude you'd see wear a tutu and g string around guys lol
AMARI...
Im with you bruh and it's a few comments througout the comment section trying to defame the King. His music was full of passion, thought, love of self, protection, growth, God, creation and will he felt when played many years from now.
Wayne is not a reality rapper so I can't relate to all of that nonsense he be rapping about
What does that even mean? I can list off a hundred rappers throughout the years that were only concerned about being original or just wanted to make music for their city or state. Then there’s Uncle Luke nem’ and the Florida movement. Down there it’s part of the culture to dance. In fact, that was rap’s original purpose. Too Short is a bonafide legend. Is he really rapping? I could go on and on. It’s all rap
Drug talk an stunting an hoes is not all that bro yall act like wayne head hancho battle rappers would destroy wayne
Wayne trash now
That’s cuz you don’t really listen…open your mind
@@yeseniabatista3079 that's because I never been to no damn outta space or anything like that nor wants to hear pussy in every other song 😂
I love y'all convos "B" and Wicked! Y'all make the culture great for us!
How tf can you compare Tupac's 5 year career to Wayne's 22years in terms of sales ?? This dude whole argument is invalid
that "made niggaz" reference.. pac killed that shit
Don’t ever go against Pac again!!!!💯💯💯
Pac was never dropped.
His first album was gold.
He second Album was multi platinum.
His third album was platinum thuglife.
His 4th album was multiplatinum.
Then he got locked up and then interscope was talking about dropping him because of the rape case so Suge got him..
YOU KILLED HIM WITH THE TRICK QUESTION ABOUT WHO WAS THE GREATEST BOXER 😂😂😂
Name me one positive song Wayne made
How to love
That’s 1
Happen to you it drop in 2020 on his album funeral (deluxe)
ALL HIS TWERK SONGZ
God Bless Amerika....Hustler Muzik
Pac is like Bob marley he got songs that are timeless ...you can play them a 1000 years from now. Wicked you lost I'm sorry 💯.
Wayne ain't got 'em
Ross ain't got em
I'll just stop there...
Nah, pac is like the first Disney princess tiana
@@2pacisgay955 go and watch a video about the backstreet boys or something. Stay out of our business.
@@chadtep7571 y'all business is in pacs queen bed huh?
@@2pacisgay955 ya'll? Stop it pinky
@@chadtep7571 you like pacs pinky alright 🤣
2pac is the GOAT
*2Pac is a GOAT.
It’s several.
Can only be 1
Wayne
AINT NO GOAT PERIOD!!!!!
PERIOD....
Pac ain't have a ghost writer 🎤
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Facts!!
@Tashreeq Rhoda GILLIE DA KID, BIRD MAN ADMITTED IT.
Everyone in the music industry has ghostwriters period, look up the album credits from any artist in history they all have songwriters.
@@ogbobbyjohnson9981 Gillie eventually said himself that He didn't write for Wayne & that when Wayne was working on The Carter album He(Gillie) would be in the studio with Wayne and Gillie said He would give Wayne pointers on his Flow/ Delivery and certian Words to say & Gillie had left Cash Money when Carter 2 was made which Also said
When Wayne was flamming shit on them Sqad Up 1-5 Mixtapes Gillie wasn't around Wayne Just like Gillie wasn't around during The Hot Boy era
Lil Wayne is definitely the GOAT
Lil Wayne is the only rapper to have 77 songs gold or platinum in one year!
In 2007 you could not turn on the radio for more than 10 minutes without hearing a Lil Wayne feature..
irelevant since is not about money making
@@brimstonevalar6053 what🧐
Huh? I didn't say nothing about money. The only rapper to have 77 songs to go gold or platinum in one year that he was involved in and nobody else has ever done it! Which means a lot of fans not money
@@jeremyloving3620 ye you right my bad
Lil Wayne The Goat Point Blank n I'm A Huge 2 Pac Fan and Was Around For His Whole Career.
Wayne suck yo favorite rapper had ghostwriters
Artistic Integrity has to be included when considering GOAT status. People conveniently use record sales as a qualifier for greatness. But we all know how a record is backed and that influence on pop culture. We must consider the quality of the bodies of work. And for this debate it goes to BHigh again.
Tupac is the Jesus, but I'm still taking wayne
Wayne changed the influence on culture. It's the reason I respect him more than most rappers. I don't like what rap has become, but a lot of rappers try to emulate him and its sad to see their lack of talent. He's literally a genius at what he does.
We don’t care about them stats!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We can argue about who the greatest is all day but if you're asking who the *most influential* figure in the history of Hip Hop is, there is no discussion to be had. It can only be Wayne.
You comparing a 25 year old 2pac with a damn near 40 year old Wayne. Remember that! I love them both tho
Love when he interviews “Wicked”
I have to watch them every time. Pure entertainment.
B High.. AwReady know who's The G.O.A.T when He spoke the Gospel! 2Pac Nuff Said.. Luv the debate!💯💪🏾
That sudden head turn kilt me😂😂😂
Pac cant freestyle? What? He freestyled the verse on homies and thugs on the scarface album and that is better than Wayne's shit. Pac did songs in one take and so fast it might as well been freestyled. Listen to how edi described when they recorded hit em up. Pac did his verse and after fatal went...pac said oh shit he killed it and then went and did the second verse...after edi finished the song pac went in there and went off at the end...that funny sound during his rant was the mic acting up to that fire pac was saying and they didnt go back and edit anything.
Pac freestyled lots of tracks and it's plenty videos of him freestyling off the dome
@@masco2483 right! If he ain't a pac fan just say that
Wayne's mixtapes are better than Pac's albums🤫
@@vontooreal9946 gtfoh with your delusion💀😂
@@vontooreal9946 Wayne's mixtapes are better than Wayne's albums. He was the best at shitting on people hence the quote "When I'm 70 years old and I'm shittin on myself, cause I'm so sick and tired of shittin on everybody else."
This ninja is crazy.2pac king
If you’re talking record sales then then Eminem has that. Wayne is number 5 on that list. Relevancy is still Pac. Hell all you gotta do as a new rapper is say something negative about Pac to get your publicity. Just a couple years ago that was the new rappers rollout and promo. Pac had more movies, if you’re mentioning movies. If you’re saying he has more money than Ross, TI and Luda...we don’t know that to be true because Baby said “contracts are made to be re-contracted” and Wayne was trying to sue him plus he just sold his masters so money may be looking kinda funny. Just saying. Did Wayne get Nicki hot or did Nicki get hot when she was running with Gucci and Deb Antney?! Wayne just came in and put the bow on an already wrapped present. Free styling doesn’t mean as much if you ain’t saying sh!t Money doesn’t mean you’re the best bruh. Rudy Gobert for the Utah Jazz just signed a bigger contract than Hakeem Olojuwon ever signed but that doesn’t mean Rudy Gobert is better than Hakeem The Dream! Now the Mike Vs Prince thing is a little different. Mike was the “icon” but Prince was the better artist...he played 21 different instruments, completed an entire album solo(wrote, recorded, arranged etc) and wrote for too many people to name..even rock and roll groups.
I don't disagree. Eminem with Dre created the whole aftermath culture when 50 Cent came out. And they traded back and forth for a while until Lil Wayne dominated the market. He made both Nicki and Drake. There was. Period of time where they were untouchable. Wayne even outsold Kayne and Jay Z together when they made their collab album.
I agree 👍
If you don’t wanna talk time, then you can’t put them in the same argument, and I did t like Tupac as a person (in the end character), but he was more prolific and profound, with more cultural content for us, than Wayne.
Wayne said he never had a problem wit police, he’s a drug addict and he kisses grown men, and he had writers. Can you say Gillis da kid
(Smh) @ Wicked!!!
How did all that add up to them being musically talented? That's what we talking about! The music brother! Let's keep it positive.
You didn't know my kuzzin as a person at all
Wayne is the Goat stop this nonsense
Everyone has ghostwriters stop.
@@queputo1241 not me!
This guy is hater.had the nerve to bring up sales 🤣 pac rapped 4 years & sold over 75 mill wayne rapped over 23 years & sold 100 mill 🤔🤷 & that 100 mill is sketchy i doubt he even sold that
Wayne mixtapes are better than Pac's albums. And I love both artists. But 👉U, dont have a fn clue
Edit:🤫
@@vontooreal9946 you cant count mixtapes. half the mix tapes are over hit records recorded by other artist with the best beats from top producers.he even uses the same hooks as the other artists sometimes.& its a dumb comparison & has nothing to do with the point i made.your comparing Wayne's 25 year career to pac 4 year career that almost sold more than Wayne's entire 25 years.nice try tho
@@supremevictory4310 the bottom line is Wayne's has better music and hell of a lot more of it.
Not to mention 2 Pac had 1 flow. Wayne got like a dozen and he sing lol
@@vontooreal9946 Wayne mix tapes better than his own albums 😂 but to each is own.with out pac there's no telling if Wayne would even had made all that music. NOBODY was making hundreds of songs like that before pac. & the fact that you even comparing 2pac to wayne speaks volumes.wayne is 2nd in my book only because 99% of his music didnt age well as pacs.
PAC is the only GOAT of rap.
Pac is the only rapper to pose nude in bathtub pics like a fruitcake 🌈🎂
But pac is a ballerina thesbian
Nah............PAC songs gives u the past n present!
Pac music is timeless you can hear is music still being played everywhere..Wayne nor Em have that type of music..Pac had that charisma and realness that made him the GOAT...
Im 41 i grew up listening to Tupac in my high school years..Me against the world got me through alot of hardships throughout my late teens and earlier 20s ..I acknowledge Em for his wordsmith abilities but he wasn’t the voice for my life as a blk boy turning into a Man..My 5 favorite rappers are Paris,Tupac,Nas,Playa fly,Wise intelligent , Chief kamachi,Tech n9ne,T-Rock,San Quinn ,C-BO ,Cormega,and tragedy khadafi
I love Wayne but I can’t put him over Tupac. He did more than just rap and he actually lived and unfortunately died by his word. A lot of these rappers have been able to rap about and profit off these lifestyles they don’t actually live or even condone. Wayne is super creative and has a way with words that most don’t but that’s all he have done is rap. Tupac transcended “rap” and truly left words and influence as well as his actions has continue to help mold us as a race and culture. I love both tho. Tupac just more dynamic and layered
Give me biggie over pac
2Pac is the people's champ and the GOAT! I'd put lil Wayne second and Jay-Z third. Nobody had people's hearts or the streets like Pac. He was ahead of his time.
Wayne wanted to be Pac (his words) nuff said.
PAC is the Goat!!!
Negative
Pac is only good at ballet
@Big Jay You obviously have not seen the influences when 2pac died, 2pac had alot of rappers trying to be like him and sound like him. Lol! Wayne isn't better than MAKAVELI. 💯
Mayyn.. We all know where Pac came from, stood for, how he rolled etc etc And 30 years later they and ya fav rapper still study them albums 'cause they wanna be like, rap like, look like, tatt like, thug like.... That's a OG Class period lol
Wayne had mf getting tear drops on their face , sipping lean and etc what’s your point?
@@neednoname8095 Point is that we still talkin bout 'Pac and what he did years after he changed the game then left it up to us... Wayne talent & $ aside all that had long been OG shit... Especially between Tejas-Louisiana by time he and the squares who bought those records jumped the train tryin to bite lol
@@rodharris1997 I’ll bet you everything Wayne has more influence over these rappers then pac
@@neednoname8095 Probably over new school rappers, but not the old school. 2pac over Wayne all day. 🔥
My blood pressure up now after all this salt wicked jus spilled. Pac had too smash a girl or 2 of his😂😂😂😂
Tupac is the Jesus Christ of Rap God damn it I'm glad somebody else said it
I’m go to grave knowing pac the best all round rapper to ever do it
EVER
Facts
Nope Scar face is.👍🏿✊🏿
@@BeinformedBefree bullshit face kool but not enough hits to be the goat im sorry.ide even put pimp c over face.
@@supremevictory4310 some folks say cucumbers taste better pickled.
WICKED YOU STARTING TO LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY!!!! L.L. COOL J is AHEAD OF WAYNE!! 2PAC GOT THEM IN HIS REARVIEW!! EMINEM SOLD MORE RECORDS THAN ANYONE SO IS HE THE GOAT?
@Live Life In Love 1111 WHO WAS THE FIRST RAP/HIP-HOP STAR. LL MADE RAP MAINSTREAM. WAYNE WOULDN'T BE WHO HE IS WITHOUT LL.
@Live Life In Love 1111 2PAC & BIGGIE, JAY-Z ,EM. I'm PRETTY SURE YOU'RE ABOUT 30 or younger so I can understand why you feel this way. It's your opinion so I respect that. 2PAC and Biggie music is TIMELESS Wayne music is an ERA. I like WAYNE better when he was with the Hot Boys.
Dmx > 2pac
All that true about Wayne but he lacks the lyrical depth 2 pac had I never heard a Wayne verse that gave me goosebumps/Playboy
Exactly and he isn’t a story teller, I’ve never heard a Wayne song where he stayed consistent and stayed on one compete subject matter. Thats his one deficiency to me.
This is where I think people go wrong with Wayne. He's a beast. Some people only judge his albums, some people judge his features which are amazing, but most overstep his mixtapes where he kills it. He has his fair amount of Dad jokes and puns, but when you really listen to songs where he stays on one particular topic it's the best.
Man came with some facts! Wayne still killin it
Wayne is the best rapper to ever live that's just facts now 2pac he's a goat a legend but if he was still here no I don't think anybody could be next to Wayne or even above him he passed Elvis in a year nobody else has done that even pac when he was alive didn't do it
Hahaha if pac was still here you would have never heard about lil wayne! Whaha he would be flippin burgers in McDonald's if pac didnt pass away.
Dont get it fucked up.
2pac: 5 years off making music/ passes away more then 25 years ago.
Lil wayne almost 20 years off making music/ until this day.
And yoh think you can compare the two?! Whaha in 25 years nobody will be listing to this Lil wayne guy, nobody will even know him. Accept you mumble rappers fanboys!
Tupac was more then rap!
Pac is the god of rap. Can't be ranked. Impeccable!
Sorry wayne!!!!
Gimme BIG over pac
2pac is the only GOAT.
The only GOAT who likes wearing nose rings and tutus like a woman
@@2pacisgay955 STFU
@@DUDULALALALALALA Hersheys cookies and creme sir?
The Greatest Rap Debates! I love it Wicked & Bhigh....Keep em coming!
Wicked is truly a unique individual lol. That dope fiend is not even close to Pac!!!
HoldHoldHold up O.G. you right alot of times,but u lost this Debate Brudda.Wayne don't have one song that could change the world
Well said
What Pac song change the world tho I'm not hating just asking
@@cyence7183 Dear Mama
@The Gentrified Gentleman Well said and I agree. Those lyrics alone should resonate with all Native Black Americans.
Brenda's got a baby Keep ya head up
So yall gone act like he didn't say the HULK
Wayne has been relevant in rap for over 20 yrs. He revolutionized the mixtape game. He revolutionized the mainstream game. Easily the most influential rapper of all time. Gave us TWO other arguable GOATS. Has the catalog to compete with multiple other arguable GOATS in a versus and not even use the same tracks. His work ethic is unmatched. I can go on and on but the fact that he is an arguable goat can't be debated.
Think about the impact 2 pac continuous to make 27 years after his death. Tupacs clothing still sells. Albums still sell, stories are still told and his music is still playing everywhere because it’s timeless. Lil Wayne’s music was great but it was only great during the times it was hot.
"Nigga is you here?!" 😂😂😂 I agree with everything Wicked said 💰
Wayne the goat
Lil Wayne rhymes about eating coochi Popping pills & sipping lean & calling other men his daddy 2PAC raps about REAL LIFE SHIT
Wayne is gonna go down as AT LEAST top 3 but people not gonna give him his full credit until he's not here too hear the love ....its always like that smh
No tf he aint
It's debatable but 2pac had that voice. Wayne got the wordplay
This is tha REALEST Lil Wayne breakdown CZcams has ever seen! Wayne is definitely tha Greatest of All Time 🔥🐐 4 Generations of Being Famous while Staying Relevant, 1M streams in 24hrs on a 2020 mixtape and most Importantly Still Alive💪🏾 Put Strength on that❣
And i fuck with wayne hard as a teen but eventually we grow up and realize people aren't always who they appear to be.
He has writers he never made a good body of work after carter 3 because the writers on that album made it a classic
No one is better than Pac. No one is even close.
Social impact of Wayne? Pac's words help me navigate society to this day. Wayne does not have a Keep Ya Head Up.
What do you get from Wayne's music . No story telling , he ain't giving you no game . Just a bunch of raps . Do he got a Brenda's Got a Baby , Friend like me , Holla if You Hear Me , Against All Odds , Out Law , Made Niggaz . Y'all need to chill fam .
He definitely has those kind of songs tho out there and people act like he doesn’t that’s what irritates me sometimes when they talk about Wayne and I could give u a whole list don’t get me started smh
Wayne has so much music we forget about his storytelling. That song with Kendrick lamar is one of the greatest story telling rap songs of all time. Not to mention old wayne before the Carter. He was legit
@@brotherLee340 Didn't that song wit K Dot come out like a year ago . I'm talking bout over all . Not 1 or 2 songs . He just dropped like 2 albums in the last few years . That shit came and went . I think Wayne dope , but he ain't fucking wit Tupac Shakur on no levels . He need to quit the freestyle shit and put some thought into it . Lol !!!
@@dblock5279 I use to listen to Wayne when he first came out wit the Hot Boys . He stood out to me for sure . But when he start spitting that fire man shit it was over . I CAN LISTEN TO THE BARS ON THAT SONG BY ITSELF and tell Gillie wrote that shit . I wouldn't be surprised if Drake wrote for him .
@@slikron8536 yall say whatever tf on the internet
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS MILLENNIUM DON'T EVEN KNOW MUSIC. 2PAC WILL ALWAYS BE THE 🐐 GOAT HANDS DOWN, PERIOD!!
Wayne is dope,but his music doesn’t have the same substance and impact as pac’s
Long Live Pac👑 Lil Wayne good but he ain’t rumbled in the jungle 💯 Pac went up against the best in his time. Wayne was reluctant to respond to Pusha T who would have bodied him. Stop your foolishness
Wick knows Pac would've sold 200 plus if he made it to 40 like Wayne. Plus stats don't equal GOAT
Bro Wicked is wrong Lil Wayne ain’t sold almost 200 million albums not even close he’s sold close to that many singles with features from other top artists like Chris Brown,Drake, and Nikki to name a few but as far as Personal Albums Tupac has sold way more than Lil Wayne look it us Lil Wayne doesn’t have not one Diamond Album that’s 10 million Tupac has two and you can’t compare someone who was only in the music industry for 5 years Tupac to 22 years Lil Wayne smh 🤦🏽♂️ if Wayne died at 25 we wouldn’t even be havin this argument Tupac accomplished more in 5 years of a career than anybody in music history I’m talking peoples first five years who accomplished more nobody
none of y’all respecting wayne in these comments but the dude arguing for 2pac said nothing but respect to wayne
Give me a rap debate that’s only about rap music, exclude money, wives, and everything else! Please
Thank u niggaz be forgettin this shit is about WHO CAN RAP THE BEST
If where just talking about pure rap wayne is the goat
What is pure rap?
2-pac👑 da goat of rap even Lil Wayne will admit it💯
AINT NO GOAT!!!!
Let's not forget, Gillie changed Wayne style. And wrote for him.
He got drop when he caught the rape charge
he actually had two albums under Interscope Records before he got dropped
He actually had 4 albums under Interscope: 2pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 my N.I.G.G.A.Z., THUGLIFE, and Me Against The World.
I been saying Wayne made more music than all rappers combine just go on CZcams 🤦🏿♂️
Whats yo point r the songs replayable or a 1 play never touch again no substance
Maane I love when y'all debate each other... Dope energy