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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2023
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The Icelandic alphabet is ancient and beautiful.
All beautiful untill number 6
@@harakovic 😏
@@harakovic sweden have it too, 6 is sex
@@harakovic Hey, sex can be beautiful too if your partner is hot.
Yes, it's 200 years old being from the early 1800's, introduced by the Danish linguist Rasmus Rask (1787-1832). Not many alphabets are older than that.
Wow it's incredible how little changes Icelandic made through centuries!
Well, the "Old Norse" spoken is not some general Old Norse per se but Old Icelandic with a strong Modern Icelandic AND foreign accent (I don't know the origin of the one speaking the reconstructed "Old Norse", Eastern Europe somewhere?). For example, to me "öllu illu" (1:20) sounds like Old Norse "ylly illy" (not far off from Modern Icelandic disregarding the "ll"), which is way wrong.
This is because Old Icelandic is the dialect of Old Norse that most of the surviving records were written in, as well as the most important ones, plus it takes less liberties with the language than other dialects so it is typically the dialect that is taught. Old Icelandic is to Old Norse what the West Saxon dialect is to Old English.
@@cognomen9142gaur þegiðu veist ekkert hvað þú ert að tala um
@@birgirdagurbjarkason3085 Can you point out exactly what is wrong in my statements?
As a Swede I understood the old Norse better than the Icelandic😂
Thank u for commenting this
Omg yes! Same 😂
That's because Old Norse (even if this is Old Icelandic rather than Old Swedish) and Swedish are closer related than Icelandic and Swedish.
Som svensk också håller jag med. Men jag talar också fornnordiska.
Even the spoken modern language sounds ancient to my ears.
Ég hef beðið eftir því að þú gerir þetta myndband í nokkurn tíma núna! Þakka þér fyrir ❤🇮🇸
Hæ þarna (og ég er frá Íslandi)
Eg heve og bidat på at ho skulde gjera denna videoen lenge.
Icelandic is just a slightly evolved version of Old Norse (it's almost the same language, to be honest) 😱
Just speak Icelandic with a Norwegian accent. = Old Norse 😁
Vamo arriba el bolso
Ik man it’s awesome I could literally go back in time and speak to my ancestors
@@alanguages, there are some slight differences between Icelandic and Old Norse. But that is a good one. 😅
I've been watching Laufey's CZcams videos, where she sings very softly and beautifully at her home. She is originally from Iceland, and she recently posted a video of herself singing an Icelandic song she learned from her mother. That's the only one I've heard so far.
I heard that Icelandic people can read the old Sagas with little trouble. I can see why.
Yeah because it’s just almost the same like the words are the same, so it’s old Norse and Icelandic are almost just the same language
I was looking for this comparison. Thanks for uploading ❤️
Those northern languages usually have a lot of fricative sounds such as f, th, dh, kh, gh also sh sounds are pretty common that also includes German. I think it’s a pretty interesting process. I’m pretty sure the reason why stop sounds in ancient languages( any ancient proto languages) evolved into fricative sounds(like p to f, t to th and etc) is the process called “Lenition”. That can sound kinda harsh but still fricative sounds are usually rare compared to stop sounds among languages of the world. So that makes those languages sound unique. You can recognise that this is one of the northern languages just by its sound.
Just like even modern day English. It sounds a lot like Icelandic mixed with Dutch
Evolution of Icelandic
Old Norse > Old West Norse > Old Icelandic > Modern Icelandic
Proto-Indo-European > Germanic > Northwest Germanic > North Germanic > Proto-Norse > Old West Norse > Old Icelandic > Modern Icelandic
Well, Old Icelandic was a dialect of Old West Norse which was a dialect of Old Norse. They were spoken at the same time except for the early Viking age when Iceland wasn't even settled.
I'm leaving a big heart here ❤️
Can you do a video on the Shetland and Orkney Norn language please?
hello, how do you like the idea to make a comparison of modern Russian and old Russian?
Zamn its very similar
Vikings
@@scarymonster5541 fr
@@scarymonster5541 djöfull já
The most underrated part of the videos is the little pictures of the man and woman in the associated culture that always go with. Makes it feel less intimidating given the subject matter by giving it a "for kids" skin.
Good video andy. I plan visiting iceland one day.
I'm lakota from south dakota, USA. The book " the viking and the red man" by reider t. sherwin is about words from some extinct norse languages that are in indigenous languages along the st. lawrence seaway. Check it out.
Very beautiful.
Good job
Andy God bless you. I think the Icelandic has not evolved at all. It is the oldest language of the Germanic family. Awesome.
The oldest Germanic language is Gothic.
May be not the oldest Germanic. But the most archaic sounding. Might have changed very little in the last 1500 years!!!
@@PaulLovesVarvara He meant extant. Gothic is not spoken anymore.
@@aitokoojii1462 Gothic is the oldest attested Germanic language. It we are only including extant Germanic languages, the oldest attested Germanic language is old Frankish, the ancestor of Dutch, Luxembourgish and some western German dialiects.
Icelandic may be the most conservative Germanic language, but under no circumstances is it the oldest.
@@ssllp6021 I think that's what he meant, the most conservative.
Old Norse sounds alot like Old English
They're closely related languages.
It was mutually intelligible with Old English
@@neyinnerse5614 Really? I never knew that
@@CinCee- there are actually Old Norse loanwords in modern English, like "they"! There's a big list of loans or possible loans on wikipedia. There was a lot of language contact during the Danelaw.
Icelandic is also very close to Anglo Saxon language!!!
Icelandic is amazing!!
Being Icelandic, I'm kinda proud of this.
Vel gert íslenska þjóð!
Amazing.
The more I hear Old Norse, the more I become convinced that the Vocabulary and Syntax of the English language is very similar to it. I think the language of the Anglo-Saxons got influenced a great deal by Old Norse, after the Viking Invasion of England.
Andy loves nordic langs the style he uses to spell made things pratical, truist and simple, real.🤗🤗🤗🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Would love to visit Iceland one day
þú ættir alveg að 👍
Iceland is a fantastic place to visit
It appears the only thing that has changed notably is word order, whereas words and all the inflections remain intact.
Icelandic sounds like when I click on some person in Northland strategy games 😀
Icelandic really hasn't changed much from old Norse
Imagine a language sounds exactly the same way it was 2000 years ago
Sounds like Finnish, which has changed very little
Greek hasn't changed a lot the last 2000 years.
@@AthanasiosJapan also Hebrew, Arabic, Coptic, Aramaic are not changed to much
Meanwhile English: y’all have more than 30% of your old language in the current one???😱😱
@@eladbenm English in this 2000 years changed like 1080•
Imagine being a British person visiting New York and everyone was speaking 17th century Old English... I imagine this is what Norwegians feel when they hear Icelandic.
The Old Norse looks closer to English than Icelandic looks to English.
Nice video 😍💪😍
Old Norse and Faroese?
There needs to be a video of the Sognamal dialect of Norway. Maybe even the Sami language as well 👍😎
Dang, I speak Dutch (and German) and I didn't realize I could understand Old Norse so well. I generally don't really understand Icelandic.
Definitely not identical but pretty dang close
OM gosh! They are too similar. It is like the other one is just a dialect 😲
Basically same language. Differences could be on dialectal basis.
How similar!
It's the same language
Sounds absurdly similar
Less goo
Are you able to translate English to icelandic for an important tattoo to my heart? Any help would be amazing. Love from scotland
0:15 🤨📸
Wow, so similar
0:29 That is interesting, because in all "modern"" translations it is wrongly called "heaven", whereas the original wording is "Heavenly Kingdom" or "Heavenly Empire". Jesus Christ is the King or the Emperor of the World, and as He rules in Heavon, thus, heaven is His Empire, or at the least His "realm".
Why is there no Thou/Du in old norse. It says: es ert(es ist/it is(art))
I do not understand. How can father be neuter, we know Vater is masculine.
Just one thing last "r" was pronounces as "Z"
Heldr = Heldz
No, it was a palatal r in Old Norse, but by the time of the classical Old Icelandic period it had become an ordinary r.
0:15 let's goooooooooo
Icelandic is basically a modern version of old Norse, that is so cool! Vikings still exist after all
This Old Norse is a very late Old Icelandic (14th century) with heavy Modern Icelandic influence (the speaker gotta base the pronounciation on something already existing). We don't have actual recordings of, say, 10th century Swedes speaking. That'd be light years from the reconstruction of a very partocular variety of Old Norse (Iceland, 14th century, Modern Icelandic and foreign accent) in this video.
0:16 AYO
Ich kann erstaunlich viel verstehen.
Icelandic people🇮🇸⬇️
🙏
I loved the prayer cause I am a Jesus's follower who loves the Norse things
0:16 be like
Thy will be done on earth as it is in Valhalla.
Next please- Erzya and Moksha
0:20 icelandic "sjo" sounds a lot like chinese "xue"
ég hef aldrei heyrt þann samanburð áður 🤔
😊🎉
An old norseman would be understood in Iceland
I doubt a 9th century Gotlander would be understood in today's Iceland, though. The Old Norse spoken here is actually 14th century Old Icelandic with heavy influences of Modern Icelandic (the u vowel was completely different in Old Icelandic compared to Modern Icelandic, for example, and there was some kind of pitch accent (think Norwegian and Swedish sing-songy melody) present in Old Icelandic (which seems to have disappeared as late as in the 17th century!)
0:16 😳
Sounds like if you can't pronounce "r", you'd have trouble communicating in Old Norse
There were several r sounds in Old Norse depending on time and dialect. In classical Old Norse there were two distinct r sounds, but the actual pronounciation depended on the time and dialect, and by the time of classical Old Icelandic they had merged n most dialects (but into different r sounds depedning on time and dialect, of course).
sex 💀💀💀💀💀
Bjork's language 😂
They’re similar af wow
Mjög gott!
first
I'm first you're 3rd but not necessary
Sounds like Turkic-Mongolian mixed with German
Old Norse Is Anglo-Saxon
Amazing how English seems closer to Old Norse than Icelandic if you only listen and not read it
Different people narrating