Man Accidentally Confesses To Rape (VIDEO)
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2017
- An Ohio man confesses to raping a 17 year-old. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, the hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. tytnetwork.com/join/
“Raymond Gates, an Ohio man who was sentenced to nine years in prison for the rape of a 17-year-old, tried to explain his crime away by blaming everything but himself.
Raymond’s police testimony highlights common ways that perpetrators try to shed blame for their crimes. A Periscope video, livestreamed by 18-year-old Marina Lonina, showed the young woman yelling “no, it hurts so much,” “please stop,” and “please no,” according to police documents provided to Teen Vogue. Lonina was sentenced to nine months in prison for obstructing justice.
“It was consensual,” Raymond told Columbus, Ohio Police Detective Brent Close, according to a police interview summary.
“She tells me, 'Yes, everything's cool.' She's cool with making out. She's cool with us getting naked. She's cool with us being there, Then all of a sudden, you know, a couple of seconds before... I mean, I'm sure. That's what happens, girls are like 'Oh. It's just going to hurt' and stuff like that,” Raymond said.
He added: “She just got, like, last second. Like, 'I don't want to do this.' Then we started doing it and everything was cool.”
“This girl came back to my house, she's eighteen, she's a virgin. She's telling me she wants to lose her virginity, man, like that she's ready to do it and everything. And then right a couple seconds before, and she's like 'I don't know,' and stuff like that. I mean, that's how girls get when they lose their virginity,” Raymond said, according to the interview summary.
“I am not a rapist. I am a good guy. I have only been with a few women. I am not a rapist,” he said in a police interrogation video.”
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Her: *stop*
Him: its ok
in a few months
Him: *stop*
Prisoner: *_its ok_*
temp HAHA
Oh they're gonna take turns with him in the Pen, homey is going to get Turned Out and be multiple Convicts Bitch!!! Eight long years "Dude" lol
Lmaoooo
Took me several moments to understand what you were saying
that doesn't happen in prison
Only 9 years, but you get 15 for smoking weed. Smh
Brost 15 years for smoking weed? That is absolutely not true.
Bad joke (?)
Jamie G it happend before...
Prezma nope that’s only possible if you have a felony amount of weed but never by just smoking it
Jamie G yeah, you have that much weed and are smoking it?
Eat a grape
Say no to rape
Every girl says no to rape..... if they don't then it isn't rape.
Smoke a vape
Say no to rape XD
Ancient Keyboard Warrior I stopped vaping
@@kidd595 well go buy some grapes n stfu
i live my life by this, i eat grapes by the second. i go to walmart and constantly buy their grapes, this changed my life. sometimes i just pop them up my ass. i’m a new grape eating man.
Teen robs a store = 60 years
Man rapes a girl = 9 years
I don’t understand America..
That is sad
@@xLEGACYPHANTOMx did you really just say that robbing a store is worse than rape? Seriously?
@@xLEGACYPHANTOMx "1st of all yes it is"
Danisnotonhischair
If you’re robbing multiple places you put multiple people in danger, you also cause panic, you’re also robbing people out their money stealing valuable items that cost more than 4 times the workers paychecks.
Man robs a teen = rape
_"girls are so confusing"_
Girl: Stop
Guy: 🤔🤔
hahaha
true lul
Tubecreeper Man, you must have had bad experiences to make you think that way.
Guys do the same shit too. Stop making the problem about girls and start noticing that shitty people can be both genders.
Tubecreeper that's oddly specific lol
More to it than that. Girls do give a lot of mixed signals, change their mind a lot, and are very manipulative and selfish.
" I'm not a rapist."
-every lying rapist in history
令等
"I'm not a rapist"
Every non-rapist ever.
"Also true."
-Me, while sitting on a toilet reading your reply
令等 😂 loll I don't think they needed that but thanks for making me laugh
Isn't that also what people who don't actually rape people say too lol
I mean, what do you want them to say?? If they say "Yes, I'm a rapist" then they're going to jail and obviously they don't want that.
*This comment section makes it very obvious who has done or would do the same thing.*
Michelle Stella EXACTLY
YUP
Yup
YUP
It’s really scary to think these people are out there!
The judge should have given him at least 20 years sentence *accidentally*
Yes 😌👍
@Ευαγγελος Ζερβας but...He is already "in" the jail.
Lmao this is why you are not a lawmaker
A judge does that to me he leaves the courthouse in a body bag.
First red flag: she's underage
Second red flag: she's drunk
Third red flag: she said stop
Thats like three cases of rape all put in one
she was 18 but ok
Adam Habbas it literally said in the first 10 seconds she was 17
@Tubecreeper for underage sex, they means it's automatically illegal. If she's drunk, she isn't thinking logically and is not in her right mind. And if she says stop and he still does it, that is rape.
AC.507 N 17 is under age, she was 17
AC.507 N and i thought teen pregnancy is bad here I can't imagine what it's like there where it isn't frowned upon to have sex at 16
So it sounds like this guy's never had sex with a woman who really wanted it.
"Oh, they always say no."
Like, what?
You're right. In fact he's never had sex. He's only repeatedly raped.
This guy is a serial predator.
It's so disgusting! I can't imagine why anyone would want to or think it okay to have sex with someone who doesn't want them. Consent needs to be earned, if someone wants to have sex they will say so and actively participate in the sex not fight it!
Rape is a different thing of course but just to answer your question there is something called sado maso..
Vivienne Chacaliaza nobody says "no" during sado maso, everyone consents
If someone wants coffee but 3 minutes later says nevermind don't try to force them to drink the coffee.
OwlyChan Because talking down to people makes it more tolerable to hear.
Because dumbing down a complicated subject to the point of food and drink makes it more available.
Because criminals care what you think.
Sex is different tho it's hard to stop
@@eduardo42897 your comment scares me honestly......
@@svenny9611 relax I'm not going around raping
@@eduardo42897 wtf
I was raped too a girl was riding me and i said stop but she kept going
Mas A i’m so sorry, I hope you are able to get help. Much love to you I hope you’re okay, it’s not your fault
i’m so sorry you had to experience that :(
People he's being sarcastic. Stop with the I am sorry BS
Apurv Chaturvedi news flash buddy, more than one person can be sarcastic
:/ why do people think guys can't be rapped
I was at a girls bedroom once, we had been drinking, we were making out, getting all hot, we got naked together, I get on top and she says "No I don't think I can do this' so I stop. I'm really wanting it but I stop. We get dressed. We stay up and talk about psychology and some shit. Not that difficult to not assault someone.
Some how I bet the girl was you, and you chickened out and stayed up talking with him.
You can tell the truth man, we won't judge you.
Haha, false majority in order to feel superior? Someone tipped their hand, insecurity issues little Alex...
Don't tease men like that Alex, you silly girl.
lol that's when you dip
Joshua Wood pretty sure he's a guy..
Joshua Wood You're the one who talked to him in the first place though...
Her friend is horrible, and the guy is horrible. End of story.
People who have physical relation with people they barely know and don't even care what happens to them, are horrible people.
Exactly. I agree.
Seriously. Who live streams something like this with out calling for help?
Lady V Yeah, even if it doesn't look like rape, but a little suspicious, people should call or get somebody just in case.
ice_ e 😂
Anytime when a person says stop or no, and if you continue the act, it's rape. Simple as that.
Women☕ everything just happen because of that women☕ the women just drunk drunk and just can't do it😂😂the women is not thinking before do stupid things just women☕☕if the women just leave the guy alone and just finger in the cr alone that will be good of her lust
THE MAN WILL NOT STILL FEEL FOR HER of her disgusting RUDENESS involved the girl
why me i'm a man but i got raped and nothing happend because you know these girl handed by gangs and you can't fight back because you'll get killed in america many times guy raped
In prison, when he says "stop" to other guys, they will say "come on man, your in my cell, we'll just spoon boy" .........
"officer idk what happened. I had the gun to his head, and i decided i wasnt going to actually kill him, but my finger was already on the trigger at that point man!"
legit
😂😂 fr
HAAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
lmfao
“He said he was feeling suicidal, ya know he wanted it”
Cell mate starts to strangle him
Him: Please stop!
Cell mate: I can’t bro, my hands already on your throat.
Hunter Clendenin laughed too hard at this
I laughed so hard 🤣🤣
I love that one lol
Hunter Clendenin don't forget to add the part where "him" tells "cell mate" he doesn't care if you strangles me. So what you just said doesn't relate
Him: please stop, it hurts when you strangle me.
Cell mate: that's how it works, dude. It hurts when you get strangled.
The sad part is that he might really believe it, and its a lot of guys that think like him
@@OO-ef6uf and you're probably one of them.
@@OO-ef6uf sure is right. You can deny it all you want but its the truth assclown
@@OO-ef6uf why does everyone glorify meeting people online vs real life. It's not like I don't have a general feel for your shitty personality already. You made a comment about "NoT aLL mEN" on a video about a grown man brutally raping a young girl. You're a shit pile
I’ve definitely seen a bunch of guys on scenarios like this defending this behavior or saying they did the same. It’s disgusting
This is actually heartbreaking, just reading the transcript of what she said was just horrible. The fact that he says he’s convinced he’s not a rapist even though she said she DIDNT want to do it and he STILL did it is unjustifiable
what she says: no
what she really means: no
what she says: no
what she really means: probably
Purple Dragon, go ahead and take your chance on probably, see how you like saying no to prison, cause they won't take your no seriously either.
iiiluvconverse for real
dustigenes with sex, if she says no ill stop. Things like "baby its cold outside" is not rape. Its romance.
what iiiluvconverse states: something obvious, and stupid
what iiiluvconverse meant to state: something meaningful, and wise
"She said this,"
"She did this,"
"She was drunk, we were drunk,"
She then said no. No means no, male or female. It's the most common of sense.
Sassy girl 101 male or female 😂😂 guys don’t get raped. Well Ive never seen a case where a guy has ever gotten harassed or raped.
guys do get raped but as far as i know it's more common amongst the lgbt+ community, like sassy girl said it's just not reported as much in comparison to rape reports from women :)
Niall Prideaux I think you just replied to a troll
Not unless you have a safe word. Not defending his case by any means tho.
arctic beast... then you’re ignorant and haven’t done your research. There are many cases of men being raped, you haven’t even looked.
Rape is horrifying. A girl losing her virginity is a big deal in the *best* of circumstances. This poor girl (and I know many others have had this happen to them, too) has to live her life with this horrifying event in her head for the rest of her life.
So glad justice was served here.
Nor exactly. Both him and the "friend' should have got a life sentence.
justice😂😂she just drunked and not thinking right..she just drunking and drunking but she can't handle it...if she just go in the cr and dinger for his lust and leave the guy and not involving the guy in his stupid things...she wants that she derserv it she really inside of his room what if we revserscars it the guy said no and the girl still going...Ohh no society is not paying attention to it
This is why i'm avoiding girls and being a sigma because women☕can make your life in risk😂😂IF THE WOMAN LEAVE THE MEN and go to the cr and finger that would be great not involving the man of her lust
How tf do you accidentally confess???
He's trying to relate to the cop and doesnt have a lawyer
That is an extremely dangerous young man, because he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong.
Then in that case everyone would be dangerous lmfao
You mean everyone goes around thinking that rape and consensual sex are the same?
Exactly! Very dangerous.
Sadly, most rapists genuinely believe that they did nothing wrong.
You're right. We need to educate them, as ignorance cannot become an excuse for this sort of behaviour.
Her friend helped her by live- streaming the worst moment of her life? WTF
The gimz always wins
David Ryan she still should've called the police, wtf are you talking about?
Yea the friend should stop filming and call 911 .
simon caymer uhh yeah it is
Well...it helped really well with the case.But she shouldve called the cops too
_dont do the sax_
Im gonna pretend this reality is a dream...
poor girl :( i hope she's doing okay now
she wants that.she seduce the guy this will not happend if she don't di stupid things and she thinks first and not doinf drunk drunk and she can't handle it
Stop is stop, it's that simple.
Now sometimes it depends, it is negotiable. I once had been told by a girl to stop but then I asked her if its Ok to continue slowly and she agreed, it all in the context
Anis Matar if someone says stop you stop. Don't be selfish
Yeah, it does sound dumb, because murder is almost never consensual. Sex almost always is. Terrible analogy
fobbeh Anis Matar better anology: You agree to pay money to a friend for a used playstation. But when youre in the middle of giving him money, he asks you for 5000$ more than initially wanted for the new playstation. So you say "No, friend, stop. This is way to much money, I need this money myself for food and rent."
Then your friend goes "Well, is it okay if I take the money slower from your hands?" And he proceeds to take the 50ß0$ from you. But slowly.
Youre the friend taking 5000$ from their friends hand. But hey, at least you do it slowly.
Kala Halani What?? No you got it wrong, my girlfriend and I were in love but sex hurt her at beginning so she told me to stop and we stopped, then we wanted to continue but slowly so we continued and it was great we both had multiple orgasms and she slept on my chest after which she gave me best kiss with thankful look in her eyes.
I've had a girl tell me no DURING sex before. It was such a bummer but her not being into it anymore was a complete turn off for me so we stopped. I don't get how guys can do stuff like this. If there's no consent I don't see how sex could be enjoyable for anyone
I think it's about power more than anything else
I think he was drunk and mistook the situation. The girl's friend was filming it like there was nothing out of the ordinary happening and in between her saying it hurt they were talking about other stuff. So he thought there was implied consent and she was just nervous or expressing pain from her hymen being broken.
meltedblack42 I always say this I'm a female but I just don't get how you can enjoy sex when the other person isn't into it. Makes no sense to me
how the hell do you missunderstand someone saying no, it hurts and stop? losing your virginity shouldnt hurt
and you know... how you could do that to another human being? Even if it would still be a turn on? Right dude?
I'm in law school. He admitted she was intoxicated so ANY consent is invalid, even if she never told him "No." A warning to anyone out there: NEVER talk to the police or submit to a deposition without an attorney.
So how come drunk drivers can be charged for murder if they were too intoxicated to have intent to endanger someone? Sounds like inconsistency in the law.
I will however still use your comment to point out the hypocrisy in another thread I am engaged in.
Why do lawyers keep trying to help guilty people not admit their crimes?
Because drunk driving is against the law, you still chose to do it because you're an idiot, and meanwhile you endanger people around you with your reckless behavior. Lives have literally been changed or taken away because of drunk driving, so yoi deserve to be charged for murder if you kill someone because of your stupid, avoidable actions.
Oh yeah he just incriminate himself. Surves him right though
@@FireVixen164
Because innocent people also incriminate themselves without realising it.
And a client is a client regardless of him being guilty.
I can relate to this story. When I was 16, I was raped by two 24 year-old men in a locked bedroom. Not even my crying stopped them...I went to the local police, and they treated it as a joke, and said I'd be so bullied, I'd have to change schools., amongst other nasty comments. Thank Goodness, the incident took place in 1998, before camera and video mobile phones, so I didn't have to worry about someone filming my attack, rather than help me!
you told them no? get off?
I'm sorry for you.
Im sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that .
This is terrible to read. I hope you are ok now.
I've literally had a girl start crying during sex and she said 'it's okay keep going' and I STILL stopped. Most sane men people don't like to engage in sex unless the woman is 1. Consenting 2. Enjoying themselves
lol If you're going to be crying during sex and want me to continue and think it's okay that's something you need to work out with me beforehand, that's not a negotiation we're going to work out during XD
Hell yeah you right
dat dude stfu liar
agreed. some people just lack empathy
J-Stilt 9
Why are you accusing them of lying
How could you even keep it up when you know the other person doesn't want to do it?
CyberRonin That's what I always think. If I ever even get a sign from my girlfriend that she's not into I'm done lol. Just ruins it for me. Even with morality aside, I can't understand how these guys do it.
Rape isn't about sexual arousal. It's about feeling a sense of power over violating someone and robbing them of their free will. People rape because they like to feel powerful, not because someone saying "no" is sexy.
assassintwinat8 hahaha, the bdsm community begs to differ.
Secondly, if its was just about power than most rape victims would not know their rapist.
ollehkacb I don't understand your point. Why would they not know their rapist? If someone sees you frequently and decided they want power over you to make you do what they want then how would that make statistics any different?
***** because believe it or not rapists know the law. If it was just about power than they would only attack strangers, simply because tracking them would be harder.
Same with murder, most murder is out of heat of the moment, that why people are usually killed by people they know.
Rape is mostly done because of lust, not because of desire for power, though sometimes its both.
"Then don't do the sex!" As funny as that sounds, it's completely true.
The example with two guys was so accurate. Imagine thinking you wanna try it but you stop, and the guy just does it anyways. Hellll noooo
I’ve been in that same situation. This girl was In my bed, we drank all night. As we were kissing, it got touchy, but as soon as I tried for sex, she said she didn’t want to have sex, and I stopped. It’s not hard when you respect women
*respeck wahmens
Respeck
darrin cleary for real! even if it’s not respect for women, you should stop ANYTHING when someone says to. This shit is so tricky
I've been in that situation. She told me put it in. I did. Then she told me "just wanted you to feel what that was like. Take it out". I did. I ain't tryna hurt nobody but that's bullshit. I kicked that bitch to the curb. Women games.
Wahmens*
Her "friend", who live streamed the rape instead of helping her should have gotten a much longer term than 9 months.
"because she was getting so many likes" i swear the society nowadays. only think about getting famous, doesnt matter for the wrong reasons. yeah well, the society happens to glorify them. just look at the cash me outside girl. she have such a bad attitude.
Thats what I was thinking!
SCBJQ what could she have done?
The Proclaimed there's certainly no way she could have called the police or attempted to get him off of her. Totally impossible.
1. Yeah, the rapist would stop raping to go stop the person reporting, which would allow the girl to get up and get away and also get help.
2. If someone had a knife and you start recording them committing a rape, you think they wouldn't stop raping and take the knife towards the person recording?! For that weird twist of logic, I call troll on you.
3. Recording is smart, but broadcasting it and then keeping it broadcast is invading the privacy of the person being raped and giving her an eternal nightmare. She can record and call the police at the same time.
The only point even somewhat on the side of the girl who broadcast the recording is there's a phenomenon that happens when you're recording something: you can end up feeling removed from it. That's why some photojournalists have recorded their own death coming at them even as they're falling, and why they hold on to the camera to the end trying to focus it. But since at some point she noticed that she was getting likes, that shows that she got out of that shocked state enough that she was able to start to process events and make decisions.
This is just another reason that people should be thinking about scenarios ahead of time and what they would do in those scenarios. Practice it so becomes automatic. It's simply civic and community duty to think about these things ahead of time so you don't mess up the life of somebody you want to help.
Honestly If I was in the same situation and I heard “no, stop”, I would stop right away. I don’t get how people take advantage of other people, straight disgusting
Well I get you, but it was probably in the heat of the moment. (He also didn't plan to rape her. She came to him.)
Idk how you could still go even when she's saying to stop. My whole mood/vibe would be gone. NO way dude that just feels so horrible to do. Let me get 30 alone with that guy in a room.
the reason for someone to stop shouldn't be due to prison.
PREACH THAT SHIT BITCH
ikr the whole time they were like you should stop because you would go to prison. bitch wtf you should stop because people have a right to their own bodies!
He was assuming that rapists have no morals. Their morals wouldn't stop them, but maybe the fact that they would go to prison would stop them
Smedra ChamounⓋ it shouldn't be but some people are too sick in the head to stop for any other reason and it's those people we are trying to get to stop this shit. The people who stop for moral reasons already do that.
he then goes on to say that on a moral basis: you should stop if someone says stop
if anyone says simply "no" or "stop" idc if they're drunk or you're drunk, in a relationship, or its plan. the second someone, female or male. if they Say *NO* you stop.
Virtue signalling level over 9000
"From your username..." *Proceeds on carrying out a racist, ad homenim attack to show-off his true white knight colors*
Bet if a man say no or stop to a woman while having sex, and report for raping, they just gonna laugh
Changkyunies Onion Bby *summersalt flashbacks*
@@imapotato7383 Yea, i mean i hope not but i think most people dont take it as seriously, life is weird.
the amount of dislikes this video has shows that even when rapists CONFESS, there are still people who will defend them
What pisses me off is that 10k people disliked the video, indicating that 1/4 of the people who saw this actually think rape is okay.
I disliked it too
@@muzzledwon1845 who asked
Take a shot every time he says "im not a rapist dude"
Loom Geek or every time he mentioned her being a virgin smh
Loom Geek A L C O H O L P O I S O N I N G
id be in a coma in 5 minutes
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Liver damage
So he says he kept going because he "wanted to know what taking a girl's virginity was like". Then he says that, "I know what girls are like when they're losing their virginity. Totally normal reaction." WTF? Did no one else notice that complete contradiction?
He's scared. His mouth is doing the running instead of his feet. No one was fooled or moved though. Now he is getting what he deserves.
He lied to her to get laid.. nothing new..
Bob Poaster
Ilysm
Jane Ryan g
Phil a virgin doesnt role play, she was drunk and she changed her mind and he should of stopped.
For those who think it's funny that a rapist gets raped in prison... Here is a thought for you to think about.
I myself have been raped. I wouldn't want what happened to me, to happen to anyone else. I personally couldn't rape anyone and inflict that kind of physical and emotional torment towards anyone, not even to the person who raped me. In order for a person to rape someone, a person has to have that kind of a mind set and lack compassion and empathy in order to carry out raping someone.
That being said... I'm sure most everyone has heard someone make the statement, "I only steal from stores. I don't take things from people I know." More times than not this is not a true statement. Stealing is stealing regardless of who you are stealing from and despite whether or not you know who they are.
Now consider the following statement: "I only rape people who are rapist because they are rapist." Rape is rape regardless if the person you are raping is a rapist or not. Someone who rapes a rapist, just makes themselves a rapist also.
Despite the person's reasoning behind why they raped someone, rape is never okay to do to someone even if they may deserve it.
The sad part about it that people are missing is that whoever the friend was that was videotaping was an assessor he to the whole ordeal if your friends or so-called friends which I don’t think she was her friend had the time to record but not stop and say hey you are going a little bit too far leave my friend alone and pull him off but daddy record the whole ordeal you should get jail time just as well
Brandon Robinson “Accessory”. The word you were looking for is “Accessory”.
How would a man feel if he went to get a tattoo but was nervous so he says actually nevermind. Then the tattoo artist holds him down and tattoos him anyway. "What do you mean stop I already started"
Rot_yor_brain finally someone with sense
William Dong it's an analogy
Rot_yor_brain exactly, some people use their dicks as brains
Keggstar1207 not all rape and sexual is from men but most of it is, woman or man, you should stop when someone changes their mind about sex. if i was tired and i said no but a girl keep riding my dick i would feel weird
lilgreymuffin what the hell are you talking about man
No means NO, here in Australia it means STOP !! Clearly its rape. Do the time dude.
Johnny Not unwashed don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time
No means stop anywhere dude, lmao wut
The_IntrovArt goofy bitch😂😂sounds like your 50
It should be death. Forget the time. He doesn't deserve a life.
Nate
Sounds like you’re 9 😂 😂 😂
9 years?? Should be 90
Stop, don’t touch me there this is my no no square
Drunk Sayori how tf do you know that?
hey 👏🏼 don’t touch me 👏🏼 there 👏🏼 this 👏🏼 is my no 👏🏼 no 👏🏼 square 👏🏼
Hey stop causing trouble, those are my no no bubbles
OMFG YESSSS
“R-a-p-e get your penis out of me.” Learned that haunting jingle in middle school. I knew no means NO in MIDDLE SCHOOL. This guy knew better. He just wanted to fulfill his own sick desires.
It makes me uncomfortable listening to that guy trying to make himself seem innocent 💀
KittyKatGirl KKG same. It makes me feel sick.
people do this shit all the time when they're drunk, the girl who got "raped" didn't even report it. like, is it seriously rape if the girl herself doesn't even consider herself raped?
i understand that he should stop when she says stop, but SHE didn't even consider it rape.
@@jasonpeng5798 yes it's still rape. If she isn't giving consent and clearly saying stop or no then it doesn't matter if she considers it not rape . It still is.
yes i couldnt even look at him
Lol sex don't even matter. I need my hand and a slick lubricant.
If someone says "stop" before sex, you stop.
If someone says "stop" during sex, you stop. Pull out.
This isn't that hard people. No one owes you their body ever.
Anonymous Annie no its very limp...not hard at all.
Anonymous Annie what if you saved thier life and they said i owe You everything?
Still no. It's great that they saved their life in this scenario, but that doesn't mean you own them, just like a parent does not have the right to abuse their children. "I owe you everything" is a phrase and although they might have meant it in the moment, remember that consent is on-going. So if the guy asked for sex as repayment and the woman agreed, it wouldn't be rape because both consented. But if she didn't, then its rape. Consent it on-going, so at any moment a person can change their mind and say no, and if the other person continues that is rape.
Frida Nilsson lol just a hypothetical question regarding predetermined consent. In this case after a person promises their everything. You could say they raped the sense that a promise cannot be broken by taking away the purity by which the idealogical premise that a promise or a deal cannot be broken is built upon... That's all
Anonymous Annie i love that comment
This happened to someone close to me. It has been almost ten years and she is still traumatized by it.
It's sad we have to talk about this.
Appreciate that lady who said if a boy or girl says stop cos it goes both ways
Louisnotonfire I caught that, too. Female on male rape is not taken seriously in our culture. Most of the time, no one will believe him. If they do believe him, he will be severely shamed.
Cute12Beauty
that was the best argument about it I’ve ever heard, holy shit
That is NOT true.
AndréSage it is though
no it really doesnt, it actually really doesnt, if a guy said stop while a girl was riding him and she doesnt stop when he also wanted it beforehand, she wouldnt get 9 years, maybe not even prison time, the guy would probably not even call the cops
He said at least twice, "If she says stop [BEFORE] you begin..." Dude, even if she says stop while, it's time to stop.
Ken Johnson Thankyou! Cenk was seriously pissing me off with that!
I was pissed reading this-hadn't got to that part of the vid yet-cos usually Cenk is with it. I'm not sure based on what he said that that's what he meant.
He said if she says stop before hand "you don't do the sex" and that if she says no/stop during, you stop.
If she, he, or they, says yes but then wants to back out then YOU NEED TO STOP.
So 9 years for rape but not life
America EXPLAIN WDYM
honestly feel so sorry for her. no one deserves "friends" like this
daniel fishburn the friend that live streamed it did her the biggest favour legally. More often then not even with dna evidence rape cases it comes down to he said she said the live stream video footage gave her beyond a doubt proof of the crime.
Cathy Baldry she could’ve at least called the cops n not just stop to livestream the whole thing lol
+Cathy Baldry she live streamed it
+Cathy Baldry my bad nvm
@@chiarab8250 RIGHT. The friend could call the police or just RECORD it, not LIVESTREAM it on social media. It's disgusting that they just took a chance to gain likes and stuff instead of really helping the victim. Disgusting.
If you’re having sex with anyone and they say “no, stop”
Then stop.
the world is nerf'd
It’s not sex it’s rape .
belahbella _ it was sex. Then she said no. Then it became rape. She “wanted it” at first then changed her mind, he still forced it. I know what I’m talking about.
Is it that easy?
Naima Ali to people with common sense, yes.
He took advantage of her 😒
He’s desperately trying to get out of this but he’s digging himself into a deeper hole with every word that’s hard to watch because of how cringy it is.
He will be saying "no, stop" for the next 9 years in prison! It's gonna hurt when he drops the soap and someone is inside of him!
Marina Garza hahaha so true
no he wont. its called solitary confinement
😂😂😂 that man ain’t gon be walking straight when he come out
Marina Garza don’t worry. In prison, other prisoners check your papers (crime documents) if it had anything to do with sexually assaulting women and children, then you are put on a KOS list which is kill on sight. That’s when the inmates can earn stripes per say.
Assaulting women??
That would be half the damn prison.
Special treatment is reserved specifically for people who violate children.
This happened to me once. I stopped. If she says 'no sex please', you stop.
Period.
Stephen Samuel comma placement bro, changes the meaning of that sentence a lot
Lord bless both of you. I wish more people understood this.
OMG, there's more of you! Bragging about how you didn't rape people... WTF is wrong with you??
@@tiny_toilet they have the right to brag, because they're rare af and we respect them alot for it. Ofc it SHOULD be common sense for a guy not to do shit like that, but apparently it isnt, so honestly hearing stories like these keeps my faith in humanity
9 years tho, life destroyed, i think 1.5 years - leason learned, he doesnt seam like an evil guy, he is young and stupid.
That poor girl is going to be traumatized for life and her friend just watched wtf.
if a girl is gonna rape me, im not gonna say stop.
This is one of the scariest videos out there. This guy feels 100% justified in what he did. He literally doesn't understand.
yeap. Tho I find it equal parts sad and scary. Not sad like pity, but more like..sad about the lack of education and self awareness
Sounded like he was drunk and mistook the situation. He said they were also talking during the sex and her friend was filming like nothing was wrong so he was getting mixed signals; it's almost like he thought the girl was just insecure and saying it hurt because he broke her hymen. I'd give him a year in jail to teach him not to do that again, but I wouldn't give him 9 years like he was out on the street and grabbing strange women and holding a knife to their throats, raping them.
And this, right here, is why feminists say "Teach men not to rape". (I think "Carry out comprehensive conversation about consent" is better and catchier but hey, you take what you can get.)
It is mind boggling how many people refuse to believe guys like this are out there, that people who don't think you can rape your girlfriend or wife are out there, that there are people who think men can't be raped period. It's infuriating.
Cheep Cheeps nigga he literally heard her say stop I don't want it that's common sense that you neeed to stop even if you're drunk that should be an immediate thing
wtf are you guys talking about...Did she struggle did she push him or did she try to leave? Or she did just staying there like an idiot to say "no stop"???
I mean 9 years in prison for a woman who wanted to be fucked....
"Dude, you're getting a cell."
Iron Bowtie a galexy S7?
Galaxy S7. The Galaxy S7 ones that blow up.
and almost certainly some BBC
Always ask for a lawyer
2:28 So, he has taken a girl's virginity before... Interesting. Is that another confession?
if a girl says no, even if she said yes beforehand, you stop. it doesnt matter. you are allowed to take your consent back. dont let ANYONE tell you that youre not.
taylor kennedy indeed Hiyori.. you're right *nods*
taylor kennedy once a girl does that just cut contact from her. Indecisive bitches wasting everyone’s time.
if a person says no, even if she said yes beforehand, you stop. it doesnt matter. you are allowed to take your consent back. dont let ANYONE tell you that youre not. ( man can be rape too )
LemmeEatYoAss yes please, cut contact so they don't have to deal with pieces of shit like you ✨
Insidious Sid She means if she takes back consent before the sex dumbass
"I wanted to stop a rape, but the likes were more important." I don't know what's wrong with people! Has social media gone so through our heads that rape of a friend is okay!!?? I'm disgusted by humanity! We need to change! This incompetence deserves so much more than 9 years and 9 months!
Millie Cashman RIGHT
Millie Cashman - you're right .
Millie Cashman Your right and DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO DAD
It is not social media's fault. The people are the one who can think.
Messed up monsters have existed way before the internet.
She is just as evil as the rapist.
They both deserve life sentence.
this comment section
Is crazy and some people in it are
When she says 'no', that's it. You stop right there. No matter what, no matter when, you stop as soon as that word is uttered.
Please educate yourself on consent if you believe this guy did nothing wrong
Maria M he did nuting wrong
Maria M incels will believe he did nothing wrong, probably.
He entered her when she said stop. That is sexual assault. It does not matter if she says it before or during no means no.
The Lost Sinner idk ask her. But you think it was not rape. But answer nicely I'm here to debate with anyone
The Lost Sinner I'm not sure if she made out with him or not I haven't watched the video in like 5 days so you will have to point it out to me but When she said no he was supposed to stop because he no longer had consent literally she said it repeatedly. After he started crying like "why did you assult me" and this guy literally doesn't care. Talking about "oh we were drunk" still that does not mean have sex with her even if she asks you to because she's not in the right mindset to fully think the the situation through that's just my opinion because I don't wanna be labeled as a rapist for the rest of my life. Now I would like your point of view on the situation remember I'm not here to argue.
Oh the Rapist got 9 years? Weldon Angelos got 55 years for selling weed.
That makes sense...
Yeah, that was my point.
Weldon was serving 55 years in federal prison for three counts of possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime and various charges related to marijuana trafficking
The undercover cop went to his apartment to buy weed. Apparently, though it was never proven, Angelos had a gun in his own home. So now its TECHNICALLY possession of a firearms in the furtherance of a drug crime. Even though he never raised it, never held it, never talked about it, and never showed it to the officer.
Once again... he got 55 YEARS to life.
But that's the point. Why is drug trafficking taken more seriously than RAPE?
I wish I knew this when I was younger, and when I have daughters, this will be something I make sure to teach them
I hope this gets shared all over the place...
"No Stop It Hurts" Is going to be a phrase he gets real familiar with over the next 9yrs.
Damn, that was just nasty.
The guy is a pos, though, so I'm struggling to feel any sympathy for his upcoming predicament.
AGENT 355 love how people who are against rape seem to relish prisoners being raped.
Mr Grumblebum You have a point there, it is a bit contradictory. However, I'm not sure it's always about relishing on the perpetrator being raped, but sometimes people just don't care about what happens to them since it's hard to feel any sympathy for someone who commits a crime as heinous and inexcusable as rape, since it's the only crime that has no explanation whatsoever, other than the perp being a thoroughly horrible and crazy bastard.
Come to think of it, all other crimes can be explained in their origin. Theft? Perhaps you were so hungry/in serious debt/hooked on drugs/in urgency to save a sick relative you will do anything to get the money you need as soon as possible, since you're desperate and probably out any other source of income. Homicide? Sometimes you don't even mean it, can be a bar fight that went overboard or even a prank gone horribly wrong. Other times it's on self-defence (which will obviously get you acquitted since you just had no other choice). Perhaps that's why those actions are not always met with the same derision, since they're understandable if not at all justifiable (except for the self-defence thing).
Rape? Not so much. The only reason for it is that you're an entitled prick who will get anything you want no matter what, since you don't give a shit about the safety and feelings of anyone else and are too self-centered and socially retarded to even realize that no one wants you around.
That's why people have such a hard time feeling bad for these sick fucks when they suffer in jail. Granted, it's not OK, but it's a feeling that I understand and, I hate to admit, sometimes agree with.
Anon
Rapist gets Raped = Justice
Anon is not funny but he has it coming.
Sorry "dude" your going to know about "no, stop, it hurts"...over and over in prison
If The Guy Acts As An Animal...Then He Should Be Like One...Chop The Damn Thing Off!..
Jr The kid
You been to prison have ya?
Joanne Haywood Not over and over, just the first few times 😉
Jr The kid well damn, didn't realise that going to one prison means you know what its like in all prisons all around the world.
Just because you were lucky enough to be in a pleasant prison doesn't mean thats the standard for all prisons everywhere.
You people are a bucnh of hypocrites on one hand you say its wrong to rape someone on the other you wish he will get raped in prison, wtf is wrong with you people twisted minds..
It doesn't matter what was said beforehand. As soon as someone is uncomfortable and says stop. You stop. Period! This guy makes me sick.
As a comedy show once said "Your not being raped until you say no" pretty sure she said no.
I've heard so many "this is not rape" arguments like these in my life... It always makes my stomach turn. A person is literally entering another persons body while she is saying "no please stop" And he doesn't stop. How does anything she said or did before these actions even matter. How does someone have so much arrogance to believe they can/should take control over someone's body like that.
But maybe he _did_ stop; long enough for her to say ok, go ahead, _again._
Did you hear the tape or see the video? Were you on the jury?
Brian Mahoney were YOU? You're saying "maybe" so none of that made up shit you said just now is definite. Let it go
No. But from what I gather, the only people who thought it was rape, including the girl in question, who _asked to lose her virginity,_ were the people watching on the Periscope app.
Even her friend, standing right there recording was never once asked for help. I don't think he raped her. But I don't know. All I know is that a lot of people would gladly ruin his life over something they had nothing to do with, and have very little information about. The police don't care about his life, believe me. A conviction is just plain better for his career than saving this kid.
No. I'm just opposed to locking people up for crimes they didn't commit based off of a knee-jerk emotional response.
I think it's best to make sure we have all of the facts before we cast judgement.
No. I hate rapists.
I'm also very much opposed to locking people up in cages for crimes they didn't commit based off of a knee-jerk emotional response.
I think it's best to make sure we have all of the facts before we cast judgement.
Girls are confusing
Girl: *Says no*
Guy: She's clearly speaking a different language
Guy: I DONT SPEAK NO-TALIAN.
The fact that this video has over 9k dislikes makes me really sad for humanity
the fact that he said it so confidently is beyond repugnant
I started getting stomach cramps once. I was in pain and said, "We have to stop." We stopped. Very simple.
+ChubbyBu Not the best of comments to say there huh ChubbyBuddy?
ChubbyBu lmfao 😂
Don't know what's worse, him, or her so called close friend that continued to stream and post it who's basically getting away with it.
Both are equally screwed in the head
She got sentenced for 9 months
both of them are garbage.
In what way is a 9 month sentence getting away with it?
People who post comments telling people to kill themselves should switch to people like the rapist and the victims friend.. Cuz the world would be a way better place without them
it isn’t just that you are gonna go to jail. have some damn respect. dont do it because she didn’t want to do it.
bro only 9 years??
Wow ... Thank goodness he's going to prison. Now he can see what "No" means.
Sulueti a he's about to be on the other side of the penetration lmaooo
So we fight against rape by celebrating another rape? This guy deserves to go to prison, but are we really saying that part of his punishment is that he should get raped too? Really?
So what happens to the guy that rapes him? Should he get raped as well as a punishment? When it's an eye for an eye, everyone ends up blind.
Well in prison, booty, a man's butt is more important than breathing, it is more important that freedom.
Sulueti how intelligent, we show people not to rape by raping them.
Hypocrisy.
What strikes me as particularly terrifying is that 1) He seems to be really clueless as to why he is being accused of rape and 2) How can he keep an erection after she is obviously become scared and unwilling to do anything? Perhaps it's just me, but any sign of discomfort from a girl turns me off right on the spot, even if it's super frustrating to be rejected at any moment (and, in my case, a bit ego-bruising, I have to admit). Normal people just suck it up and move on with our lives. Not that there won't be another chance anyway.
Also, how is a girl being piss-drunk an excuse? If anything, it's an aggravant. If a person is so wasted that they can't even stand up straight, it's obvious that in no way can they make a conscious decision about anything. Seriously, what the hell?
Pablo Yáñez Batarce No worries it's probably not you that makes them wanna stop your ego can stay in tack XD
Pablo Yáñez Batarce a lot of guys get turned on by girls being scared and resisting. The difference between those men and a rapist is that those guys aren't raping women
quinn murphy This guy gets it
Right. I almost took this girls virginity a while back and as we were about to have sex she started having a panic attack. I immediately lost my erection and felt so bad that I helped dress her and everything. I didn't fully understand it at the time but apparently she was almost raped by somebody that I actually knew and i guess that's what triggered the panic attack. But anyone who can keep going after obvious signs not to is completely sick
weirdly cool
In BDSM they have a "safety word" they are supposed to use when they really want to stop. If the safety word is used you have to stop or it's rape.
That’s how you know that his pull out game gonna be weak af
She screamed "no please stop" he deserves to go to prison for 9 years
I don't think that *a few men* understands that when engaging in sex, women are the only ones going through the pain, and has the ability to become pregnant. Men do not have to suffer from that. So when a woman says no. It's no. Understand this. Their body is their own.
yeah but the thing is, i dont think he deserved fuckin 9 years.. thats too much. what he did is way different than someone kidnapping and raping a woman who did not even say yes at start then changed her mind when they were already drunk and naked and basically entered her already.... wtf
Blessed Stealth or for an empathy angle: you are both drunk and in her bedroom. You fall on the bed when you try to get up, already having second thoughts, she pounces on you, your brain is foggy and your body is weak. She kisses you and she tastes disgusting, your stomach hurts from anxiety and you can’t get her off you, there are other people in the room watching, she takes out her clam and it’s blue and infected and disgusting. You tell her no stop and she says “were drunk, you wanted this a second ago, we are already in my room.” She slides that gross thing around you and bounces on you so hard your d*ck snaps and you scream no stop but she doesn’t care about your words or your pain. Afterwards you are afraid she will get pregnant and come after you again, you worry if you caught a disease, You have to think about her disgusting body and her disregard for your feelings and your pain in every relationship afterwards and grow impotent and afraid of women forever. She goes to prison never admitting wrong, justifying her actions as being all your fault and your weakness as a person. Empathy doesn’t trump the facts of what is legal or illegal but it might be nice to have.
Women shouldn’t ask for sex if they aren’t prepared
Henrik Kemppainen Thank you for letting us know.
Blessed Stealth he deserved nine years. This kind of shit should not be part of the society. Taking in consideration your thoughts on this you shouldn’t be neither.
If she doesn't want to do it then she doesn't want to do it. Jesus Christ wtf is wrong with people
heavymetallust they are dumb af I hate people so much
HAIL TRUMP AND H1TL3R how does your mama feel about ypur profession as a troll ..pretty sure she's very proud
If she changes her mind.... it's better to go rub one out in the bathroom than to potentially get charged with sexual assault!
James Crummack probably deserves more
James Crummack is America great again yet?
Bruh when a black dude gets accused it's 30 years
I think you're making up an issue to drag racism into it. All rapists should get that, at least
If the girl is gonna have to stick with the pain and trauma of her virginity stolen by rape, then the rapist is gonna have to stick with 9 years locked up. The fact that she was only 17 just makes it worse.