Why YouTube NEEDS To Get Worse
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CZcams is getting worse, and that’s because it HAS to.
It’s not just you imaging things…
CZcams is forcing people to turn off their adblockers, recommending bad content, removing user feedback, allowing progressively worse advertisers on their platform and trying to keep up with every new trend in video. I hate to be the one to tell you but, it’s not going to get better from here. This video is not the billionth episode of CZcamsr complains about CZcams, instead I want to look at the four business fundamentals driving decisions that is already making the platform worse for creators and viewers. Of these companies only Meta’s Facebook competes with CZcams’s core offering of user generated video on demand but that is secondary to Facebooks core functionality of keeping you up to date with what the boomers are angry about.
All of the other platforms operate in a niche, like shortform content on Tik Tok, live video streaming on Twitch and Servicing the Chinese market for Bilibili. These sites don’t compete with CZcams, but CZcams does compete with them. Months after TikTok started gaining market dominance CZcams reacted by launching CZcams shorts, and the site also competes directly with twitch for live stream content. The biggest missed opportunity is premium paid content. CZcams operates by making a tiny amount of money off a massive amount of people, and that means the content on their site is necessarily low budget. The largest creators on the platform may wow viewers with how much they spend on their videos, but even Mr Beast is only creating something that is akin to a mid-budget reality TV show.
He also produces less content than a similar show that would air on traditional media outlets because his videos are shorter and released less frequently. Paid subscription streaming services or cable TV stations bring in a lot more money on a per viewer basis than CZcams because everybody that uses their platform pays for it. A web-based service like Netflix also has an expense advantage over CZcams on their content side. Netflix has to pay more to produce or license it’s content where CZcams gets it for free from people uploading to their platform but in return Netflix has a more curated library of high value content. In a Bloomberg Feature from 2013 the company revealed that it compressed its entire library of movies and TV shows into a two point seven five PETAbite [2.75 PB] master catalogue. That’s two thousand eight hundred times a petabyte which is how much storage most high-end personal devices have.
Since that report there has been no reliable updates to the actual size of the Netflix library, but the number of movies and shows offered has actually shrunk since then, compression has got better, and Netflix has NOT rolled out any new features like higher resolutions that would demand more storage. CZcams has that much data uploaded to its servers EVERY SINGLE DAY. Netflix and other streaming services pay for their content through licensing deals, CZcams pays for its content by handling billions of videos that will never get a single view so they can keep the tiny fraction of videos that do bring in revenue. There are no new people left to sign up to CZcams, everybody that wants to watch videos on the internet will already use it unless they live in a country where their access is restricted.
When billions of gigabytes worth of data are being uploaded on servers every day the only thing, the company has left to do is switch from getting more users to getting more out of the users they have. There is only so much space on the sites home screen and recommendations side bar so all of these options are leaving less room for the stuff that people usually come to CZcams for.
For those of you who do use an adblocker don’t feel too smug just yet, because it’s time to learn How Money Works to find out why CZcams HAS to get worse.
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Dude can you teach me youtube ? Need to learn how to make videos and monetize them.
Make good stuff and get really lucky, if I really knew the secret I wouldn't tell a living soul.
@@HowMoneyWorks 😄 it was worth a try
@@RahulKumar-xn7hkplenty of YT content out there on this topic, waiting for you to apply what it teaches.
Even if it were told to you, would you do it? A question all of us aspiring creators need to face.
I really like watching educational and engineering content that doesn’t make enough money for mainstream tv
Excatly. Who cares the rality crap that the "big channels" keep dumping out ? (appereantly a lot of ppl, which is kinda sad in its own way) Im here to learn stuff they never have the time or willingness to show on TV.
Honestly, if other CZcamsrs had never mentioned Mr. Beast, I to this day would have zero idea of who he is. Only because they've mentioned him has it caused a video or two of his to appear on my feed. I have since made it known that I do not want to see content by him.
That's the kind of stuff I enjoy watching here too. I think there is a subset of CZcamsrs that make enjoyable content. I have no desire to watch the big channel crap reality shows or stupid stunts. I hated them when they were put on regular television, I'm not going to watch them here at an even lower budget.
I watch CZcams avidly and that's the only content I watch. Engineering, Finance, History, Geography and Animal stuff amongst others. I couldn't give less of crap about rainbow vomit content. Even though YT is worse now, it has no equal when it comes to delivering the wealth of knowledge creators put out. And if that means I watch 5 seconds of extra ads for free educational and enjoyable content from dedicated creators, I am ok with that. I mean what's the alternative? Cable? Lol.
There is so much good content, but you have to cultivate your subscriptions carefully. I get a lot of value from it and pay for premium so the only ads I get are the channels sponsors which I don’t mind.
Ever since CZcams removed the dislike button, I’ve never forgiven them ever since. How quality, accurate educational content is even more elusive.
I never forgave them for disabling comments on videos deemed for "kids".
There is a dislike button, the same one I clicked below your comment.
213 Dislike in these video.
@@LifeChanger_._And do you see any number? That’s the point lol
i can't forgive them for flagging yoru ni kakeru as harmful content when contents much worse are on the platform
I'm also tired of youtubers having to censor themselves during videos on sensitive topics, i.e. saying "unalived" instead of killed.
I think it's funny. It's like CZcams has it's own language now 😂 a cultural phenomenon
Especially if they want to talk about serious issues like suicide and they have to call it sewer slide or some shit
Or like how you want to warn others about a terrible person but you aren't allowed to say the full thing to properly warn them.
@@dridtheasexualredneck6047 even for Xbox parties you have to use a censored language because sometimes mfer will maliciously report just to get you com banned.
Then you arent human
My main problem with CZcams is their community guide lines. It's like they treat their entire audience like 5 years old. Can't swear, can't talk about violence, can't talk about war, can't talk about sex, can't talk about suicide etc... At this point all you can do on CZcams is either, Make music, or make a food channel. I don't know about gaming content either anymore since playing a violent game will get you demonetized (Like 99% of video games out there).
Can’t stand up to trolls. Can’t say anything without it being taken out of context by the algorithm and getting censored/banned. Can’t criticize government or big corporations nor risk facing reprisal for following content creators who do the same.
Exactly. And I’m sure some advertisers are fine with more adult content anyways as that might be their demographic. They need to get better at having more targeted ads
wait, as a pregnant man i find this offensive
@@LearnCompositionOnlinewait what😂
@@shaniaandrews8782 that is called advertiser/creator obfuscation
CZcams had that, once upon a time, but then Karens were harassing corporations for having ads running on ISIS videos and thus the adpocalypse began. Twitter got away with it because the NSFW content wasn't having ads run "on" it, the NSFW content existed and ads existed and seeing a Dora the Explorer ad next to somebody making art of Dora getting railed was, at most a "lucky" coincidence. Since the ads are just placed on the page and not associated with any specific tweet (and content like Dora porn was mostly only going to be found by people interested in it) nobody actually connected the dots and blamed the advertisers. The problem Twitter is having now is not that any one instance of ads and content clashed, it's the fact that the brands themselves were being impersonated by people able to afford the 8 bucks for a check mark.
Technically none of the advertisers care about any of the other things going on with Twitter, they weren't getting blamed for the white supremacy, racism, grooming, culture wars, or pornographic content their ads were in the splash zone of, so they didn't care to remove their support... until checkmark "gate"
Honestly, if YT forces me to watch ads I'll simply stop watching and change my daily routine, hopefully for the better.
you can always copy the URL and download the video on a video ripper website and watch without ads if that happens
yeah i just watched youtube to pass the time, ill either end up watching way less of it or ill just go to twitch, since ads arent too bad there compared to youtube
As an avid yt watcher in the last about 10 years, the day when they force me to watch the incredibly obnoxious mind rot they call "ads" is the day when I quit for good.
Been watching YT for 13 yrs sans ads. Yes its changing for the worse. Now they force ads on us and it seems anyone in the world with a phone is a 'content creator'.
Been watching yt since it first came out. Watching ads are not fun, I hate sitting there trying to watch a video that's informative only for an add to appear, then mid way through the video there is a raid shadow legends ad or something.
The worst thing about social media is that everyone is selling something, and the majority of the content we see is advertising rather that's clear or not.
Yeah, this is the sad truth. The moment a platform gains a sizable userbase, there's a horde of people using it to either sell a product or sell themselves (people making so-called thirst trap videos to promote their OF/brand/course).
The extension I love to use are : Ublock Origin, SponsorBlock, Dark Reader, Return CZcams Dislike
That's more than social media, that's literally everything now, even things you wouldn't think of, like that massive pile of clothes in a Chilean desert. Capitalism has no place to grow anymore, many degrowth plans are unsavory, ideologically unfeasible or difficult, and thus the senesensce continues.
That is what I realized about all the emails in my inbox every day.
Honestly they are ALL trying to sell me something. Like, yeah I get the Quora or Reddit digests, but even those are to drive traffic to the sites, which generates revenue. Everything else is straight up advertising via email. Bike companies, gun companies, car companies, watches, motorsport, everything I have joined or subscribed to over the years bombard me daily with sales offers.
true facts
I use Adblock to help protect my mental and emotional health. Being forced to watch constant ads on any platform begins to feel like a form of psychological assault. It's why I don't even watch cable tv anymore. The ads are also just plain annoying.
@@David280GG Think about it the next time you are watching a tv show or a movie online. You just aren't paying attention. But if you like ads, power to you.
On cable TV if one channel was displaying adverts, we'd usually switch to a different channel that wasn't. It worked out well for us, I wouldn't necessarily mind going back to TV - most streaming service shows feel the same anyways.
The problem nowadays is that tv isn't as good as it used to be back in the day.
@JermichaelWilliams-sn7du Pretty good, not seeing ads. How's your evening going?
The ads on television have tripled over the past 25 years It feels like
Id happily start paying for CZcams Premium if I felt like CZcams deserved my money. Reverse awful changes like removing the dislike button, stop censoring videos even slightly controversial and allow for a legacy search function so I actually get showed what I searched for and I might.
that's exactly why I stopped paying for Premium. CZcams has been screwing its users so badly I genuinely felt guilty for giving them money, so I went back to Revanced and uBlock Origin. You want me to pay for your platform? Make it a platform worth paying for
Well, you didn’t pay for CZcams premium when those changes weren’t a thing. So why would reversing it all of a sudden turn you into a paying customer?
@@nawab256Because when those things were not as fucked as they are now, we didn't have 30 sec unskippable ads, double ads and ads that are literally just scams.
They don't police their advertisers at all but police the users to eternity. That behaviour does not deserve to be rewarded.
My stance in why I won't get premium is similar to your's.
I've paid for CZcams premium at various times since it and CZcams red came out, but currently I'm not happy with the cost to value. So I pay for nebula and patreon instead
To me, today's YT amounts to:
- VIdeo essays
- Music videos and tracks
- Live music
So not only I wouldn't watch the more "generalist" videos the platform is pushing if they weren't so easily available, I'm not doing it even today
Same tbh
I have the same philosophy. YT premium is only 6 usd in my country - the cost of a takeout pizza. I use it allot as well, and download podcasts for driving. I havent seen an add on YT for so long i almost forgot they existed.
@@SawGudman Why would I pay for something that I can get for free? cough cough > cough
video essays are mostly generalist-tier.
@@SawGudmanthat’s crazy considering for a huge percentage of mobile users don’t get ads in the first place. But I mean, hey, enjoying paying for it I guess.
The worst part is not the ads. Is the community guideline enforcement
Like what?
@@daus9190 Not being able to question government narrative?
Or are you okay with governments and mega corps banning you for disagreeing with things?
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 it's hard to say without knowing the specific case you are referring to. Way too often those who deem themselves "freethinkers" (or to quote the Fox lunatic "who are simply asking questions") are nothing but lunatics believing bigoted conspiracy theories and as such it's ok to ban them.
Like a video being struck down because it featured a cat sat on a worktop meowing. Or a 3D printer review channel being shutdown completely and the owner's YT Red subscription cancelled because he...reviewed a 3D printer.
@@daus9190 ok groomer by pat that has said that LGBTQ+ communities has been hijacked by chomos had been taken down. And we all draw the line when they came for our children. Yes, most LGBT just want to be left alone not targeting children.
The one thing you didn't mention is that the downside to making advertiser friendly content is that it's forced creators to make videos they don't enjoy making. Which only contributes to making the platform worse.
"That's on there for profiling purposes."
He did mention that at the end.
All because of Elsa Gate content farms
My main gripe with YT ads is that they have access to Google's absurd database and algorithms for serving specific ads, and yet for some reason I keep gettings ads for candy I am allergic to, or products I literally can not buy.
That isn't a targeted ad, that is just an assault on my mental health.
I get ads for tampons, im a boy
Almost like rubbing your face in it is the point....
They want people to hate the advertisements, and I don't know why.
Wait wait ... algorithms....
It could simply be the system has learned that people hate advertisements, so it is trying to make people hate them more?
very fun comment
I get ads for anime A.I girlfriends and therepy sessions and I feel like a loser, youtube is just bullying me at this point.
They apparently want to show me ads for a health company, or someone marinating a hot dog with soap and slicing it up.
CZcams's fundamental problem is a ripple effect from the 20-year-old lie that ad-supported internet was a viable business model.
It never worked, but advertisers just had so much money to throw around that that was irrelevant.
Interesting. It still seems that CZcams OpEx will be high because of CDN fees and storing PBs of data, and that every video needs to be encoded in different formats driving up storage costs. If CZcams were to spend less on flexibility by cutting the number of encodes and purging old videos they may be able to reduce the storage demands.
Instead it’s just sanitized the internet
@@FTW23-qq8nb You're forgetting that CZcams is not a standalone company. Its under Alphabet which has datastores already. The cost will be subsidised by other services and they manage at scale.
"Sanitized"@@anon2427 it's arguably more vile than ever, but in a more insidious manner than before.
@@FTW23-qq8nb I do wonder how much they would have to purge to become sustainable, but this seems reasonable to me.
They should already have stats for video performance and should be able to target videos that haven't seen engagement in years.
It doesn't surprise me that so few people subscribe to CZcams Premium. CZcams is a place to find stuff that entertains you, but for the most part not stuff that you're going to love enough to pay for. It's like the difference between The Voice and The Sopranos. Loads of people will watch The Voice if it's on, but no-one's buying the DVD boxset. The other issue is that CZcams has very little control over whether you see adverts, because the video creators themselves will often put adverts into the video anyway. So you're paying not to see adverts, and then seeing adverts anyway.
IMHO it's too expensive. CZcams isn't producing any of the content, and they have a well-earned reputation for shafting smaller channels. Right now there's that invalid traffic thing going on and they can't be bothered to actually address it in any meaningful way. I’m not sure why I'd pay that much money for the service when I could spend the money on other things.
Oh man, I didn't even think of that! You're right! You are going to be watching ads anyway XD
I follow and watch multiple channels, some that are fun, many of them being informative like conference recordings or lectures of my specialty, some actually needed like tutorials. When in the car I often listen to sth, often on CZcams. Also, CZcams Music is my music service. I watch no TV. So in my case it's a valuable service. I could do that for free but I can't be bothered with interruptions
@@passenger175 I think I'd be more inclined if the money I gave CZcams was split (after they've taken their 45% cut) evenly between all of the creators I'd actually watched that month. But I can't imagine they'd have the systems in place to do that (or if it's even possible). So when you pay your $15 a month, the majority of it is presumably going to the big, already rich channels that you might never watch. Mr Beast or Joe Rogan or something, while the channels you pay to watch are getting the equivalent of the ad revenue from your one view.
@@passenger175 But yeah, I get it if you're also using it as a Spotify alternative, then it becomes a better deal. In my country, Spotify is so cheap that it doesn't make sense to subscribe to CZcams for music.
I think the funny thing about CZcams ads is that unlike commercials on TV, which usually are in the background as you wait for the show to restart in it's next part, is that they actively stop people from watching the content they wanted. Which creates a negative impression from the outset, especially if said ads are completely unrelated to the content being watched.
It doesn't help that some of the ads are straight up scams being pushed by the robots.
Once they fully enforce their adblock ban I'm gone, and they won't miss me at all. Almost 20 years using this site means I've seen the conversion from casual independent platform to life support for Television.
They are unlikely to ever be able to do that.
They need to because of the amount of data they shift. Like stuff like 4k video and possibly even full-HD basically made allowing ad-blocking unreasonable. They probably also found out that people who block ads watch more on average and in higher quality than average.
Also, being supported primarily by ads and not subscriptions are the primary reason why youtube has became so dystopian. There's a reason why HBO is known for violent and sexual content.
Just delete your cookies for CZcams. It worked for me.
@@AwesomeHairo saving this comment for later.
Since you asked... CZcams is now our TV content provider; we're retired and after dinner, we watch stuff from all the creators that we support and subscribe to, including you! We stopped watching traditional cable TV years ago. We gave up on Netflix because it's 95% junk. It's interesting to watch how the YT algorithm gets tighter and tighter over time and how there are constellations of "friend festivals" across different genres. Finding new, worthwhile content is actually getting difficult. The good news? I'll be dead in a few years and none of this enshitification will matter anymore.The bad news? See the good news. Keep up the good work!
It's like the name of a book by an economist called "Enjoy the Decline". The world sucks, and its engineered that way. Just follow the Golden Rule. And as for me, when I get to the point I need to be in a nursing home, its time for the "Smith and Wesson Retirement Plan". To hell with that.
@@ShermanT.Potter wtf.. fair enough
It's not really junk for Netflix the fuck you talking about
@@ShermanT.Potter Aaron Clarey is that Economist.
@@deanchur Indeed.
I get why they might push ads harder, but I'm not sure why it seems like the algorithm has gotten worse, suggesting stuff that is obscure or boring, and especially suggesting repeats of things I've already watched.
It's because CZcams cares about keeping you on the platform, which causes a lot of "bad" content to be pushed in front of people. A good example of this is tutorials, if you search how to do _X_ and find a video and watch it, if it's a good one you're probably going to hop off and go do the thing in the tutorial after you watch that video, but if it's a bad tutorial then you're probably going to frustratedly click onto the next video to start the cycle over again. The problem is the algorithm is going to hate the good tutorial, since everybody that watches it stops watching videos for a while, as they go do the thing they needed to do, but the bad tutorials will have people stay on the platform.
Each "bad" tutorial also is another chance to send more ads in front of your eyes, thus it's incentivizing bad tutorials on the platform. The worst part is not only do the bad tutorials keep you on the platform, they also usually drive engagement pretty hard as people are more likely to complain about the tutorial, hit the dislike button, or ask befuddled questions in the comments of the video, where the clear and concise video will maybe get a thumbs up from people. Since a thumbs up and a thumbs down are both "engagement" they both boost the video in the algorithm.
The same problem happens in all other video types, but tutorials are the most clear as to why this behavior exists.
This is Google as a whole. You search for something, you get a bunch of unrelated items that you didn't search for. It's absolute garbage.
I believe a part of the reason you get suggested the same video again is music. People listen to the same music or playlist often, which causes the algorithm to think it's what people want to do because they watch the same thing over and over.
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adblock will never die, they always find solution like they did with ads !
We get an adblocker, they get an adblockerblocker, we get an adblockerblocker blocker, they get and adblockerblockerblocker blocker... and the cycle continues
Ye xD ... Now ublock just blocks the anti-adblock pop-up as if it were an ad itself (o wait it is)
@@toukoenriaze9870haha yes
The beauty of adblock Devs is that there are waaaaay more adblock devs than Google devs, and the freelancer does it for fun, not for a salary.
My adblocker never stopped working
Sponsor block + Adblock + Adguard = minimum set for Enter in CZcams
What is sponsor block?
@@rainacherienne1010 It basically highlights the portion of the video dedicated to sponsorship or self promotion or other annoying stuff. You can automatically skip it or do so manually by pressing a key or do some other action. It's a really good extension worth checking out! :)
@@rainacherienne1010 A crowdsourced browser extension that automatically skips sponsored content, self-promotoion, intro's and other time-wasting bs. It really makes CZcams so much better.
@@rainacherienne1010you know sponsored segments on videos? It's a way to auto skip them but i personally don't do that since some creators i watch sometimes makes their ads somewhat entertaining such as tom ska and internet historian
I'm afraid you're gonna need better adblocks than that as of now. Fortunately the website version of youtube in Brave mobile is quite good at removing adverts.
I stopped watching TV 20 years ago due to the ads. I will do the exact same to YT as well as soon as they force ads on me.
So you just except things for free? It’s either ads or you have to pay money. CZcams isn’t a public service
@@mattschurenko3032 I use ad blockers and yt-dlp. I don't have to pay anything.
@@mattschurenko3032
I always watch stuff for free, and I remember when CZcams actually had no ads, and no clickbait. There was way more freedom on the platform.
If I screw corporations out of money, I don't care because they're stinkin' rich anyways, but they're still gonna screw with me though I'd still find a way to screw them back,
I'd always go on Odnoklassniki to watch full-length movies free, so I don't have to deal with the streaming bullshit anyways.
@@mattschurenko3032 Speaking of ads, I also moved out of the city to get away from all the lousy billboards and lousy bus stop ads. I'd highly miss that.
The thing is HengerR, it was actually an amazing experience to escape the TV, because networks force all these lousy advertisements on you, and all you would get was lousy edited content for the time it run allotted.
I don't smug because I have adblock, it's basic. I smug because I have sponsorblock.
I have been outplayed.
@@HowMoneyWorks au contraire, because he probably saw the pinned comment like I did when he scrolled down to the comments.
@@HowMoneyWorks me too, get outplayed youtube overlords :3333333
Content creator here . When I first started on CZcams , on a different account , it was so easy to gain viewership . At that time , I didn't mind the ads also , since they were banner ads located on the left of the video , below , and on top were the CZcams search bar is now located . Then Google bought CZcams , and ads were being placed on top of the videos I'm watching . Since then , I've used ad block to keep my videos from being interrupted .
I would be happy to turn off my ad blocker , if CZcams managed to stop interrupting and videos I'm watching . Second , CZcams should stop being greedy , and start paying its content creator more . Until then , the ad blocker stays .
You can still bypass CZcams's advertisements by using multiple different methods. CZcams's gonna suffer one way or the other.
I use an adblock but lately it's becoming more and more complicated to handle. I think YT doesn't realize how annoying it is... I also noticed that the YT algorithm has very bizarre suggestions which are way off what I watch usually...
How do you expect them to pay to keep CZcams running? If you aren’t watching ads or paying fro premium then you are the problem
Bring back dislike, rebuild the copyright system to prevent exploitation and doxxing, apologize for past mistakes, stabilize the demonization system, fix CZcams kids so us adults don't have to be forced to watch heavily censored content (or give video essayists a category so they don't have to follow vague Generalized rules, same with other popular genres that aren't categorized so they know what to follow. And so advertisers can choose which categories they're happy to have their ads show up in,) be transparent about EVERYTHING that affects the public facing part of the company, and then I will *consider* paying.
I'm still salty for video playback being quietly taken away a decade ago among other features. Had they made even a corporate "we're sorry but we've grown so we have to do this to keep up with costs" announcement, I would have been ok with that, rather than the silent treatment we keep getting for major changes.
Until then, guerilla warfare for this monopoly with no chance of me and many others backing down anytime soon.
They want me to play by their rules? Earn it, so far they've done everything to give us more technologically inclined people red flags not to pay.
I think they know exactly how annoying it is, and that is the point.
@mattschurenko3032 It's hilarious how some people think themselves superior because they watch ads. Literally the silliest thing to feel smug about
Tell me, when you watch those ads, how often have you bought the things they advertise? Have you EVER bought anything because of a CZcams ad? Every time you watch an ad and don't purchase the thing, CZcams will charge the company even though it gained NOTHING out of you watching it. If people that don't watch ads are the "problem" for not making CZcams money, then people that watch ads but don't buy everything that's advertised are the problem for costing the companies money for nothing
I use Opera GX for Ads Block and so far, it's good. No Ads cluttering around my screen, Brave Browser used to like this but not anymore.
Here before this channel "disappears"
I don't think so, CZcams is actually very fair about hosting criticism of the platform on the platform.
Yeah, if trans people were in charge there would be none of these problems.
@@HowMoneyWorksYeah, but they will throw you under the bus as soon as they don’t like your politics or advertisers don’t like you…
@@HowMoneyWorkshow do you tell they won't shadowban you by rigging the algorithm against you though
@@HowMoneyWorksI truly hope so, I have seen channels fall off my notifications for no valid reason. I enjoy your content and look forward to more.
CZcams ads aren't just going off only what you watch to determine what you show you. They're connected to Google's ad network, and, unless you've blocked trackers with extensions, they are aware of your browsing history, video watch history, and probably physical location. So just remember that when you're browsing without tracker blocking enabled.
The biggest reason people stopped watching cable TV was because of the ads. You get the privilege to not only spend hundreds of dollars per month to watch content but on top of it all if you are watching a show who's scheduled for one hour, you also get the pleasure of it being interrupted 4 to 5 times with ads lasting 4 to 3 minutes depending. So what did modern companies do ? The drug dealer approach. They give you a taste either for free or for a very low price and then once you are hooked, they milk you dry for all you are worth. Remember when Netflix claimed they would never put ads on their service ?
Also the people who use an ad blocker are either somewhat tech savvy or found out that they existed when CZcams decided to advertise them to the entire world that they existed for non savvy people. For the latter group, all they know is install it and let it be. Since even the FBI recommends to install ad blockers when surfing the web, those people won't know what white listing means so their ad blockers will always be on but yet will get penalized by CZcams for their lack of knowledge which then turns into possible resentment from said group.
What also doesn't help CZcams and wasn't mentioned here is the ads themselves. When you have the majority of ads being suspect, scams or leading you to places filled with malware or installing it on their devices, that is a CZcams problem, not a user problem. CZcams is content with having thousands of people getting scammed so long as they are getting paid for it by the scammers. If CZcams had better quality control, maybe the ad issue wouldn't be so pervasive.
Just give it time. With anti adblock measures its inevitable that only scammers and other con artists will post anything there. There are still lots of good channels that already live off sponsorships instead of channel ads, but since they make no money for the platform they'll be axed too. And then will come inevitable "we have to delete old data", then "we will delete copyrighted content" to save space etc. Unless something changes, yt will slowly die out in a next decade.
I would watch 99% of the content I watch (if it were on my couch at the end of the day) because I don’t waste my time with the “home” feed. I have zero tolerance for letting the YT algorithm decide what I should watch. Instead, I only watch my subscription feed, which I have carefully curated to be as interesting as possible. I’m surprised more people don’t do this; on the other hand, I find Mr Beast extremely boring, so I am probably not a good representation of the average person.
The problem with that, is that it still makes finding videos from new creators difficult, I have a lot of subscriptions on my main acct as well. But, there are many new creators that I would like that will never get any views from me, because the recommendation algorithm is completely useless.
I do that, too. I also use Unhook youtube to remove the sidebar and get me straight to the subscription feed
The sad truth we have to swallow somehow is that whatever gets very widely known/popular always have to pander to the lowest common denominator, which means brain rot content with the only purpose to waste time. It happened with TV it slowly happens with yt too. If the trend continou, soon all we get is clowns making fool of themselves between two obnoxious and irrelevant ad.
@@user-hb5by4kf5j There's also times when the algorithm accidentally gets it right. It's widely known that it does sprinkle in a mixture of random other videos to check to see if you're clicking on them even though you haven't in the past.
I do this too, but it doesn't help that CZcams has been unsubscribing me to people for ages. I've followed The Slingshot Channel for YEARS, realized I haven't seen a single video of his in quite a long time - I was unsubscribed.
I refuse to believe these are some sort of back-end glitches, although I can't decide what CZcams possibly thinks it will gain from this behavior.
I love it when content creators that make money off Ads try to convince you they are against this stuff.
CZcams could also probably get a slight increase if they allowed Super donations regardless of subs and watch hours. Take a cut from the donation, and you get more money right out the gate without making any controversial changes. There are likely lots of little things CZcams could do to enhance their revenue that won't get in anybody's way.
Ikr but all of those are risks ... Screwing over their consumers in a monopoly isn't a risk
Idk about that, people in current wars could easily ask for global donations and it could make wars and terrorism unpredictable
A well-deserved hard spot. Since Microsoft, and probably earlier if I looked, the grift technology has brought us is a service that expands offering one thing, and then becomes profitable rug pulling the services you’ve transitioned to using.
Seriously, this is a really crappy way to make a business, and I’m not disappointed that CZcams is having a difficult period pulling that rug.
My 2 cents
In the past, that was considered predatory and disloyal competition aiming to get a monopoly.
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I've been a paid sub of YT for over 10 years. Since last month, I no longer pay for the content. Having ads in your face is really no different than filtering through all the shit content that is promoted.
it's like the guy who rushes you to clean one of your shoes or wash half your windshield lol. was just saying this about twitter before
these companies become huge by providing free public forum and then get rid of the free, the public, & the forum parts.
@@runawaysailing2032YT premium hasn't existed for 10 years. It started as CZcams Music Key on November 14th, 2014 and only removed ads on music videos from certain labels. It was rebranded as CZcams Red in 2015, then CZcams Premium in 2018.
I'd say right now, the power is in the hands of the viewers because there are always a ton of alternative outlets to get the same information, sometimes even the exact same article of writing. I have never bothered to turn off my ad blocker. If I search for a piece of information, and go to a site that blocks me and forces me to disable ad blocker before continuing, I'd simply never visit that site again and pick another one that has the same article posted there.
If youtube implements ad blocker blocker, then I will kiss it goodbye.
I don't think ADs are a bad thing. It's just in the way that it gets done. Force-fed information will always suck, the same as what happens in schools. Let people have a choice and offer your services in an exciting way.
@@ibrahimmomani9451 I think most people have no issue with ads as long as they do not harm the experience of a given media. An ad at the start of the video unskipable 30 seconds? No problem. 20 fifteen second ads sprinkled in the middle of the video? Now THAT harms the experience and is a reason a good number of people opt for adblockers. Unfortunately maintaining a site isn't free so operating at a loss it's usually the user that suffers...
My thoughts exactly. Most of the sites that disable adblock have way better ad policy than CZcams, I avoid them simply out of principle.
CZcams's ad policy is actually disgusting and makes its videos unwatchable for me. I tried to watch a video on a browser that didn't support adblock for the first time in years and was unable to finish because it had ads literally every 3 minutes. If CZcams disables adblock I will be gome the same day
@@exantiuse497not only that but watching a video that is demonetized for having anime girls with skirts above their knees is too risky for them just to have an ad run on the video with girls in their underwear showing off a car or some shit is absolutely a good reason to ad block. The fact that not only are the standards for the ads lower than the community standards for the videos themselves is bad enough, but the fact that they still run ads on demonetized videos is criminal.
The future will be to pay CZcams to not watch ads and then sit watching the content creator imbuing the video with ads to be able to make ends meet and rely on videos exclusive videos on separate streaming service platforms and the donation of the already paying users. Then CZcams will raise the prices and create a lower ad tier and a higher no ad tier. Clearly sustainable.
The primary value of youtube to viewers are the how-to videos, which we can use to fix our own stuff, do building/hobby projects with, etc.
But nearly all the mainstream crap is basically one large advertisement from "influencers".
I miss being able to see foreign shows on youtube. I like shows from Thailand and Taiwan. It was so easy for people to upload them here and add subtitles. Now everything is so regulated you can't even post a clip without being flagged.
"A place to share videos they are proud of instead of a place where they can get rich..." PREACH! I have been on the platform for years, mainly creating content for other people who have benefited greatly from how all of this works. Once I finally got to a place where I could create for myself, about a year ago, it feels like an uphill battle just to get my content out there for people to enjoy. That is all I want! I could care less about ad rev or affiliate links to make commissions. I want to share the work that I am proud of and hope others will enjoy. The system is broken and needs to get back to its roots.
That's not going to happen as long as CZcams is playing games with which videos are being shown and burying the stuff they know people are likely to want to watch under all the garbage video sthat are advertiser friendly.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade it’s freaking sad to see what a crap show it has become.
@@theCastleberry It is. For the time being I'm somewhat shielded from that because I'm mostly interested in smaller autism channels that are mostly using CZcams for access to the audience with the funding coming either from direct donations or from selling to the audience. That particular niche is never going to be given a fair shake as autistic people have very little money and most are either unemployed or underemployed.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade that is very frustrating. Voices that should be heard and being pushed aside and down for people who want to pull pranks and stuff their face with food. Pointless stuff that does not make a good change in the world. Brings no value. I'm sorry to hear about the struggle. I wish I knew how to break through and make a difference.
I checked out your channel. The content doesn’t appeal to me personally, but I respect you for WHY you do it.
CZcams blocked my watching of videos this morning. I tried to get my adblocker to allow youtube, but I can't get that to work. And now I'm ok with it. I really liked the diversity of yt, and being old, I haven't tried the other sites, tic toc, etc. Now I will have to.
Said it before but when youtube introduced monetization it really stifled creativity with content. As you said now everyone is chasing the same content creation for views and money. It's all too safe now.
Unironically…I feel huge social media sites like this should become a public service. These usefulness should not be limited by how much profit they create.
The thing I find stupid about all of this is that CZcams is already profitable. But thanks to capitalism nothing profitable can just be sustainable. We can't make $1b a year for 30 years. If the profit/year isn't INCREASING it's considered a failure. So we chase to make $1.5b next year. Then $2b the next. And due to the natural stupidity we make the entire company/service worse and kill of our own brand over time. So instead of that $1b/30 year we've now made a total of $15b in only 8 years but we killed our company in the process and now the shareholders are stupidly rich and take their money to the next investment with the intent to destroy it by maximizing profits. Capitalism is a stupid model.
they make a bunch of money by providing free public forum and then take away the free, the public, & the forum parts.
the problem is they revoked it from themselves. all the big media companies made politically aligned statements (literally or through actions) & now they're stuck. they did it because advertisers, young demographics meaning their consumers and their employees, skew left. not cause they actually are. would make little difference if they were red instead of blue, it should be true public forum either way.
CZcams is video hosting, not social media. Calling every possible form of online communication "social media" is peak zoomer.
Who will pay for it then? The public? That will just increase taxes
And who is going to pay for this? America since this is an American company? Should the American citizens pay for a world wide platform every country uses? That's silly, unless you actually have an alternative answer to who will pay.
Too many people quitting their "day jobs" to do CZcams "full-time" and become just another "youtube business" before they have the experience or the following to justify it and are then forced to do everything everyone else is doing because that's what they're supposed to do to be a successful youtube business.
So what's your point here
This is sadly the case. I find smaller, newer channels ran by people that do it as a hobby much more enjoyable than professional channels. In fact the quality of the videos usually takes a nosedive as the channel grows and becomes more professional
Work traditional jobs, even if they are worse. Also get legislation pushed to make traditional jobs better, if possible.
I’m glad my channel has never been successful enough to seriously consider going full time.
@@exantiuse497word I use youtube for fun rather than stress myself out to make it to a career path
Funny thing is there are other platforms. As sad as CZcams's current path makes me I am glad they're doing it now before I get too far into my career as a creator. It is the kick in the butt I needed to get me to get my content on multiple sites.
Video essays, analysis, summaries, commentary, philosophy, history.
The only things I use yt for
I would still use youtube as my main source of content because i only watch the stuff that advertisers don't like
The fact that CZcams doesn't get paid for ads unless someone watches the whole thing or clicks on it is insane, especially as advertisers grow increasingly self-aware and cram as much as they can into the first five seconds or so. I have absolutely been influenced by ads before promptly skipping them. That's just straight up a bad business practice. I imagine it's easier to thrust the consequences of that onto consumers than risk losing advertisers by forcing them to pay more money, though.
To be honest, I think they do a really, really bad job of advertising CZcams Premium. They pushed super hard on it for a while when it was first introduced, and then gave up, so everyone I know sort of just ended up being annoyed by it / mocking it. Unfortunately, CZcams also has to contend with the fact that no matter what unhanded tactics they pull to try to eradicate adblock or similar, it's not going to go away and not everyone is going to give up and buy premium. Personally, I feel as though there are other avenues they could attempt to try in order to earn more money before needing to resort to cutting creator income (though, I agree some youtube personalities are horribly overpaid for the quality of content they produce). However, they've done a real shit job of listening to the community for a long time, and probably don't really care that much as long as they can continue squeezing out as much money as possible while forcing the website to take a slow but steady death march. So. Y'know.
It's kind of their own fault for selling their souls early on to elbow everybody else out of the market. In the traditional online advertising market you get a certain amount of money just for having your image viewed and another if you click through to the advertised site. They could have offered the equivalent of some small amount just for the placement and more money being paid if the viewer made it through the 30 seconds and the entire amount being paid if the viewer clicked the ad. It's a minor change, but one which would discourage some of the more obvious scams. I'm not sure why they're taking their own incompetence out on the people creating the products that the site is selling. The videos and the audience that comes for the videos.
Advertiser here, that practice is pretty common, it's called 'true view'. Google search ads only charge advertisers when the person clicks the ad, Facebook/Insta only charges advertisers when they click an ad (unless campaign objective is set to brand awareness which isn't super common), so CZcams would just exclude themselves from most businesses channel mix if they charged per impression instead of per click or full view, from an advertisers perspective, there's little to no value in paying for someone to watch 3-seconds of your ad.
CZcams premium doesn't actually give you anything. Ad blockers and yt-dlp give you MORE capabilities than CZcams Premium does.
@@JodyBruchon It does give you one thing! Convenience. I don't even think about my Premium sub. It hits my account once a month, and I never see an ad. The smaller features are a bonus, but frankly, the removal of ads without downloading and fidgeting with widgets on my browser and phone is worth the hassle.
@@JodyBruchonthat’s like saying a Spotify subscription doesn’t give you anything, as pirate bay is free. Or Netflix. Or blurays.
I would be down to ditch ad-block and pay for CZcams premium if it meant a truly ad-free experience. However that would mean that creators would have to stop getting sponsorships or have them be a defined segment that CZcams would auto-skip (or simply not show) for premium users.
You can already skip sponsor ads. Just move forward in the video
@@UHeardMe1stTime lol Way to completely not comprehend op's point.
The problem is that the only way to compete with a platform like CZcams is to have a shit ton of money to host all that video content and support all those servers. Only another giant corporation could support something like that and you would end up in the exact same situation we're in now.
I've been saying this for years. The original CZcamsrs people like Good mythical morning. Philip DeFranco, Fred they all started CZcams as a hobby as a fun experience. Now that money gets involved people lose that passion and focus.
GMM has one pretty well and EmpLemon too, but many others have become bland content for general audiences. You know, like TV.
To CZcams: If you don't want me to use an ad-blocker on CZcams, do not put ads on CZcams.
Better argument: Instead, put them near the video description, comment section, and/or above the video recommendations of the video someone's currently watching. Exactly like how old youtube did it. All of them are better ways to put ads on youtube than interrupting the video randomly to make the viewer watch a 30 second ad, convincing the viewer to use adblocker.
I don't think you understand how this works.
@@easiestcc6451old youtube didnt make money, so that makes no sense. Advertisers want to pay for video ads within the videos. Ads outside youtube videos bring i very little, like 10% of the money youtube would need.
I subbed to CZcams premium years ago after realizing I watch CZcams way more than anything else. But I’m concerned with the fact that they’re increasing the price while literally adding nothing new. They could at least give me a way to skip sponsors more easily considering I’m paying money not to listen to anything be advertised to me. Make video creators put the sponsor at the beginning of the video and premium users have the video start as soon is it’s over. I’d also like to opt out of CZcams music and whatever other parts of premium I don’t use and shouldn’t have to pay for. Have a basic no-ads tier.
So you pay a premium not to watch ads and you're forced to watch sponsors anyway meanwhile the creators don't make any more money but CZcams does which is exactly why I won't sub
@@CharmSchool_RejectCZcams pays much more to the creators for "premium" views than a "normal" views. So what you're saying is not true.
@@CharmSchool_Rejectyoutube premium pays creators 10x more than moocher viewers.
I’m one of the suckers who got premium, so I hope that answers your question. Lol. I watch way too much YT to stop now. I wouldn’t stop unless my favorite niche-ish YT’ers stopped.
That’s people like you, Retromation, and myself. The music, the gaming, and history.
I kinda bounce between those three categories, as a nerdy person who is a musician on this platform.
0:10 Delighted that my comment made the video 😂😂
10 seconds in, you should have to pay for that type of promotion!
YEP!!!! I just got the 'AD-BLOCKER' 3 strike, and had to turn it off. Luckily, I have my VPNS as a 2nd and 3rd tier to block ads. I don't care what anyone says, I am not watch 6 ADS for a 10 minute VIDEO!!!!
Honestly if i cant watch youtube for free witbout ads anymore i will stop usimg it alltogether. The ads are extremely egregious these days. They used to just be a banner at the bottom but now they can force you to watch an entire minute of ads for a 10 minute video sometimes. As a working adult my time is already limited so i hate having any of my free time wasted by someone trying to sell me.something i'll never buy
I'm not gonna lie, if they remove ad block I will not use it unless I have to.
I don't want to watch ads everytime I try to watch something. It just makes me angry and hate the advertisers.
Then pay for premium. CZcams doesn’t owe you anything
@@mattschurenko3032 nah
@mattschurenko3032 This is exactly why I'm pro piracy, if the site doesn't owe me anything, I don't owe the site anything either.
Now explain why CZcams is randomly unsubscribing us from our favorite content creators.
There may be a limit on subscription count like there is on liked videos. I've wondered about this.
@@JodyBruchon they limit how many videos I can like? What's even the point it's not like I go back and check what I have liked
@@IFRYRCE Go look in Library. Find your Liked Videos Playlist. It'll never have more than 5000.
And i thought i was crazy here 😂
When I turned off ad block I realized how many garbage scam ads YT allows on their website
Honestly, I think the biggest problem isn't *just* CZcams itself, but the creators who dedicate themselves to making it a full time job, and their primary source of income. CZcams was never designed to be a primary source of income; ad revenue was supposed to be a "thank you" vs a "here's your paycheck." Unfortunately, the idea that you could make a living off of such payments has resulted in more and more channels that make more and more clickbaity content, as they all fight for the same resource: the userbase's time.
In the past when a business hit the wall of what they could do, they transitioned from a growth security to a dividend security model and told the now-unnecessary growth shareholders to get bent. They didn’t shit in the pool.
Yeah but capitalism has innovated since then.
CZcams overpaying creators has additional downstream effects. Like making Logan Paul influential.
They didn’t “make him famous” his viewers did. You can’t blame a company for that.
@@squirrel9760 Actually you can, cause they pushed his videos at the top of search results and recommendations. This way, CZcams is directly responsible for making big channels bigger, and smaller channels smaller.
This morning YT kept telling me it couldn't load videos because my internet wasn't connected. But it could load comments just fine. Disabled my ad blocker and it worked fine. Reenabled the blocker and it kept working. Maybe it was convenient timing of a backend issue. Maybe YT is experimenting with screwing with people.
I went to ad blocker as soon as they started putting ads and not giving any money to the creators. Whitelisting was a big thing for those you liked, but now watching an ad was 100% pointless.
As much as I would be inclined to leave CZcams if (when) they counter-block adblockers (which I myself use), I'm not sure if I could properly replace CZcams for what I use it for. By far the largest value I get out of CZcams is easily accessible educational content, which I simply wouldn't have the money to pay for otherwise. There are also an immense amount of creators on the platform who I genuinely want to support, but again, money is an issue. As such, I support them by watching their content on CZcams, listening to their music if they are a musical artist, and in some cases, recommending their content to people I know irl.
I cannot describe the anger I feel at CZcams, and at Google broadly, for the downstream effects that their terrible business model is soon to have. The fact that truly valuable, useful, and transformative content hosted on their platform for little to no cost is soon to be gatekept by money because some faceless shareholders need their profit for doing almost nothing to contribute.... they must be punished for this.
lots of people say educational content, but do you mean truthfully educational in the sense that you encounter something, look it up, learn about it, then return to the thing & utilize the information? or do you mean educational entertainment like this channel?
not that theres anything wrong with that, it's most of what I watch, but I just know all these people saying education cant really mean the first thing can they.
Free lunch don’t last forever sadly
What are you on? If you are using an adblocker, not paying for premium or channel memberships you are supporting no-one. YT Creators only get paid from these means, and as stated in this video it is not low cost to host and distribute such enormous amounts of video content.
Just download the educational videos . ;)
Wait, while I'm all for ad-blockers as ads are for the most part annoying trash, I'm supporting content creators via different means because I can afford it. If I couldn't, I'd at least watch ads on their content so they at least get a few pennies from my eyeballs. How exactly are you supporting them by listening to their content when you won't bother to even watch the ads on their content? They gain nothing from your eyeballs...
Creators are also selling out to sponsorships. Like, I'm here for your content, not to sit through some random coffee ad.
Sponsor Block is a beautiful thing
I wouldn't usually count some coffee sponsorship as selling out, people heve got to pay the bills if they want to do it as a job. There are quite a few very sketchy sponsors on youtube though and those I would definitely count as selling out. I guess that everyone just has their own place where they draw the line.
Eh, I don't mind supporting the creators with their imbedded ads- they don't get squat from YT's ad payment system anyway. I'll forward past if it's something irrelevant to me (eg. 'Manscaped') but if I'm watching a video chances are I like and want to support the content.
The trouble with blocking Ad Blockers is that it is nearly impossible to detect them if they let the ads play in the background and then just trim them out from the video 'stream'. There are already YT players that do exactly that, in preparation of YT's blocking of ads and they are making more loss for YT as they 'pre-cache' all the videos that would show up in ones feed to provide seamless, ad-less watching experience in case they decide to watch one of those. Thus, YT is paying bandwidth for both the video and the ad that has a high chance that nobody will watch.
If CZcams had stayed to a 5 second video per video I would have let it go but as it goes.. anytime that CZcams catches the ad blocker and won't show me ads I literally just refresh the screen until there are no ads so it still doesn't work for them
Back in the day people were really working on high quality show/film stuff.. but a few adpocalypses later, that was discouraged.... there's only a few CZcams film makers doing their thing in the shadows.
Thanks for mentioning your history channel, i did not know about it and if it is even just half as good as this channel you have a new binge watcher
Welcome aboard!
@@HowMoneyWorksWestern men are honestly the worst. BRICS is gonna win the global South and become the new Superpowert to rule
CZcams needs less ads and higher charges for advertisers. Instead of making it free for them to display 30 seconds of ad to the user CZcams should charge them for every second of advertisement they shove down our throats. End double ads and charge advertisers by the second length of the ad. This way we will have lots of 2-3 second ads that will just shout “BOUNTY” or “TIDEPODS” At us and we can get back to the video. This builds less negative brand association because the consumer doesn’t hate the brand for harassing them 24/7. It also would earn youtube more revenue
This is a great video I really appreciate the dedication in each video you post, I learn a lot watching your videos and it has always been helpful to me. Building a steady income is quite difficult for newbies.. Thanks to John Desmond Heppolette for improving my portfolio. keep up with the good videos.
It amazes me greatly the way I move from an average lifestyle to earning over 63k per month, utter shock is the word. I have understood a lot in the past few years to doubt that oppor-tunities abound in the financial markets, The only thing is to know where to focus....Thanks so much to John Desmond Heppolette.
The best course of action is to ask a consultant or investing coach for guidance or assistance.
Speaking with a consultant helped me stay afloat in the market and grow my portfolio to about 65% since January, even though I know it sounds obvious or generic.
See the problem with paying creators less is that there will be more sponsor ads baked into every video I watch. I already pay for premium and I still have to skip an ad manually in almost every video I watch now and it's disgusting
get Sponsor Block
CZcams can't and doesn't really care to prevent you from using it because they don't get a cut from the sponsor anyway. Many sponsors only care if the segment is in the video, only a select few of them go into the nitty gritty of making sure the viewers aren't skipping it. Most videos you'll watch will already have the time codes input by another user so you'll rarely have to input the sponsored segment into it to skip it anyway.
I've had warnings about adblockers for a week now, and two videos before this I got my first video player block from CZcams. I already hate the ads now that I've turned off my blocker. I can't believe how bad its got.
PC or smartphone?
I'm watching CZcams + uBlock Origin on a Windows 10 PC with a Firefox ;-)
Either pay for premium, stop complaining or stop watching
@@mattschurenko3032 So weak willed you beg to get ads?
@@mattschurenko3032 I'll just use invidious
@@mattschurenko3032Stop crying
Considering that there are other platforms we need to upload to those platforms. Don't limit your content to one platform. Upload to multiple platforms to branch out.
CZcams declared a 30b dollar profit in 2022 in the us alone. and it was an average year. Predicted to climb 10% per year. Most creators don't get paid. The ones that do get 1/10th of a cent for often 1000s of views. CZcams also runs adverts on the overwhelming majority of channels on the platform and never pay them. they also run adverts on demonetized channels which not qualify for the youtube partner program and always have done, so basically CZcams abuses content creators which are the CZcams backbone business also CZcams don’t verify advertising people/companies so there were cases when the advertising on CZcams were scams , no matter what, they get their billions.
Here in Canada, I just had CZcams figure out my third or fourth ad blocker and ban it. Watching less CZcams now because these ads are sooooo annoying.
Apparently ubl0ck 0r1g1n has countermeasures
There are competitors to YT. Rumble is the most viable and closest competitor. But Bitchute and Odysee are also competitors (though less profitable/viable for creators).
I post all my stuff to about 9 different platforms. CZcams is only attractive due to revenue and reach, but I get more views on my less "popular" content on other platforms.
The main issue is every fucking creator wants to continue to use CZcams. I try to find them off of this network, but it seems they just refuse to break up this monopoly. This is where I come in and blame the U.S. government. Google was a search engine, it should have never been allowed to buy CZcams in the first place. I have no empathy for Google, I'll continue to use adblock. They can't force me to pay. It's pretty much impossible. I have bills to pay, and that $14 is better spent on groceries or my epilepsy medicine. And the ads? Another scam, what do they expect.
This video is brilliantly metaphorical. The ad and some fake news is the result of how CZcams has become this shitty. And this comment being on your SPAM comment section is too...
I’m one of the few people who pay for CZcams Premium, simply because i watch more CZcams than anything. I watch on my iPad and TV predominantly so ad blocks just don’t work as well. I don’t watch as much other streaming services because my favorite content creators are all on here. It just makes it so much easier to have one site with all my favorite realtors that do essay style content like you.
I don't even get why there is a bad reputation against CZcams Premium, it's flexible (4 family members), it's cheap, the features that it gives on demand are pretty good for the ones who care etc. I said it was cheap back there but due to currency conversion rate everybody I know uses some kind of adblock here, including me.
I know that tech-savvy people like to show off their ad blocking servers and etc but your run of the mill (basically everyone) person doesn't even need to hassle about stuff like that.
@@flintfrommother3gaming I'm not sure about other people. But, given the shenanigans with how the ad revenue is doled out, and how these sorts of programs are run on other sites, I don't trust that the money will be given out fairly. They already rig the algorithm in favor of corporate news outlets and went to the extreme of hiding the dislikes so that people wouldn't know just how unpopular some of these channels are that are being pushed. I don't personally trust that they'll hand out the money to channels fairly.
Same, I rather pay for it because I mostly watch on my Roku.
Without it the commercials are getting to long. If my kid wants to watch it they use a guest account, and some commercials are an hour plus.
On the other hand they now know what is like to grow up with commercials.
Plus premium comes with music, which I can use in the car.
I also use Premium. I mostly watch CZcams and its long-form content, so I don't want ads. I recently had to let it go for about a week due to not having enough money at that moment to renew it and this platform became awful. All of my ads were for TikTok and Temu 😖. Mobile ad blockers can be finicky and I always see they have reviews about "You guys updated the app and now the ad block doesn't work!" I wanted to bypass all of that. I also like that since I can't afford to add on being a CZcams Member for the channels I watch, nor can I afford to contribute to Patreon, at least my viewership gives more money to the creator than those who aren't using Premium.
I can also now run my videos in the background, a feature you don't think you'll miss until you can't do it.
I did switch to the student Premium plan this time as well, since I started college again this semester after a very long hiatus.
Same.
I pay for premium, it's as much as the cheapest netflix in my country so, to the question "if CZcams wasn't free how much would you watch?" The answer is "exactly the same". Premium is how I buy my time back, of I get 2 5-10 sec ads once every 10 minutes, and I watch 1 hour a day, that is 1-2 minutes a day wasted waiting to skip ads. 30 days a month... That is 30min to 1h a month wasted waiting to skip ads. Would you pay 8$ to buy 1 hour of time back? This is why I hate "creators" that do both patreon and sponsored messages, they take both their viewers time and money.
CZcams is getting so much worse with constant interruptions with ads. It’s on purpose to buy their premium! Ugh smh I hate it so much
I've always had ad blockers since I can remember. When I first started watching youtube regularly, it was through a browser on a PC connected to my TV so I actually wasn't even aware of the ads until watching something on my phone CZcams app. That experience was unpleasant. I've been served the adblocker threat by CZcams and resolved it already, without them getting any money from me.
The problem I have is that if I pay for premium, there's still the reality that videos get demonetized and creators are forced to play it safe. While I expect a certain degree of moderation to keep Nazis and whatnot away, a CZcamsr should be able to make a fact based documentary on, say, the Middle East without the threat of losing revenue.
My experience with CZcams ads is that they have NO idea what I want, and just show me the same damn ad again and again on my phone, and I skip it every freaking time, until finally I select the "I don't want to see this ad again" option. Then it repeats with a new annoying ad for something I don't want or need.
What I find more interesting is that today is first day I ever got a popup about ad blockers on CZcams on my browser, and here is this video 🤔
I know right. Exactly why are they trying to show ads to a broke person like me? I won't actually buy anything cuz I literally can't.
It is just wasting my time and their ad view.
@@person1420 Exactly, you'd think with all the data they supposedly collect on me they'd know what I do and don't buy. But no, I'm shown ads for luxury cars when I can't afford a used car, ads for luxury clothing, when I dress like a blue collar worker, and every vegetarian supplement known to man when I'm a dedicated weight lifter who eats lots of meat every day. They can't get a single ad correct for me.
CZcams is getting worse but this channel keeps getting better
Money and Censorship aside, the general recommendations are absolutely broken. I have channels featuring content i hate re-appearing after blocking them, thumbs downing etc. Once you search or watch an obscure video it will be featured on your home page forever it sux
CZcams should allow small creators to put their videos under a paywall. The main problem with youtube is dealing with people that want something for nothing, such as wanting tons of videos without ads or wanting tons of content from creators even though they don't support them in any way. CZcams needs to let these customers go if it wants to survive as a business, having billions of freeloaders on a website is not a good business strategy.
Even Premium has Ads. In video Sponsorships are just as bad and should not be allowed if you’re paying for Premium
Those are really not the same but if most people used Premium, creators wouldnt need sponsorships
In-video sponsorships could be brought down, but not in the system where people get shadow bans and yelly smelly in the least transparent way possible. CZcams starts to shoot them down - and creators lose any means of stable income outside of whole videos being paid by some "charity" or "private fund".
That's how it turned out to be - the add-on ads feed CZcams (And pretty much only youtube because people are NOT paid ad revenue for short videos at all, 100% goes to youtube, plus good luck getting any video monetized in your favor when anybody can scam the system by fictional copyright claim (Many remix "artists" make remix of classics/simple sounds, then copystrike with monetization leech the parts which are essentially the thing they have no relation with. For example, your 2 hour video about Red Alert 2 gets claimed by some dubzzsoundgargleblaster whose composition contains 20 seconds of raw Frank Klepacky's Hell's march you used in the beginning.
Things get extra stupid with sound banks stepping into the game. Someone records a pigeon, labels it and suddenly all pigeon sounds become a copyright danger, even if you recorded them by yourself.
And winning a dispute does nothing. By the time you do it all money already gone since 95% of views have already come and gone. Sometimes gone with a shadow ban for too many copystrikes against you.
The issue there is that the sponsorships exist because YT isn't paying some of these channels enough. It's part of why you'll occasionally see sponsorships on tiny channels that wouldn't be making enough to compensate for the gear or purchases involved with running the channel.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade my point is if you pay to not see ads CZcams shouldn’t allow ads, that’s what you’re paying for in part when you choose to pay for CZcams. Whether or not CZcams pays creators enough is beside the point and ambiguous. What’s “enough”? I don’t know about you but who doesn’t want more money? Do you really think all these popular CZcamsrs are like, nah, I have enough, I’ll stop doing sponsorships?
This is such a complex topic and it gets more difficult the deeper you go. There is so much potential, diverse users and investors, interests of all sorts, ...
I've used all the features like premium, memberships, super chats, gifting, ad blocker and so on. I'd like for money to stay out of the communties though and rather pay for premium in the sense of community responsibility, like donating to wikipedia.
I think that the bigger issue is how the small creators have been exploited for years and once they get large enough to get a share, it gets taken away with things like the invalid traffic bug and the vaguely worded rules against having too many ad accounts, but no information about which ones need to be closed in order to proceed.
So here's a question: What would happen if people started clicking on every youtube ad, then just close that new tab immediately? That costs the advertiser money on every click, but with this behavior, maybe only 1 in 1,000,000 clicks leads to an actual purchase (probably fewer). Not a good ROI for the advertiser. But YT couldn't really discourage or stop this behavior, because it is the exact behavior they are optimizing for the user to do. Suddenly the advertiser is paying for every time their ad runs even though all of the clicks are "false positives". Kind of a little FU to each advertiser, and ultimately to YT as advertisers become unwilling to pay as high of a rate for ads knowing that the resulting clicks don't yield revenue.
PS: most ad blockers will block the actual site from the ad from opening. I don't know if it's the click on YT's platform that triggers the revenue, or the landing on the advertiser's page, but if it is the former, YT is still billing the advertiser and paying the channel, but the user is guaranteed to not make a purchase because the target site doesn't even open.
I have no intention of continuing with yt after my premium free trial ends. All content & comments have to be advertiser-friendly so google makes more money. It's become tedious & boring. Movin' on.
So far browser plugins have been saving me. Returned dislikes and removed shorts from youtube. There are also still ways to conveniently block ads. Hopefully, they'll keep up for a while. I would be a lot more willing to pay for youtube if they made the service better instead of making it progressively worse.
I like the sound of getting rid of shorts, as well as non-video posts (creator family moments, memes, etc).
This channel is the most researched channel that uploads content regularly that i watch every upload. This is fantastic work. You may not be the best, but you don't claim to be, you tie your answers with articles and sources.
I am taking notes, because the way you do youtube is the way convince people thta what you are saying is right!
Honestly, the few perks CZcams premium offers is totally worth it. I split the cost on a family plan so it’s not too expensive.
Most of my listening is while commuting with my phone screen locked. The lack of ads gives me more time back in my life. And when I travel I can download like 20 videos before boarding a flight.
I still can’t believe advertisers aren’t charged from the first second that an ad is played 😮 if the ad is 1 minute and you skip at 0:59, it’s crazy that the advertiser pays nothing. Is Google not the biggest advertising behemoth to have ever existed? Why are they letting advertisers get away with this? I realize they are the real customers and users and creators are just the product being sold, but man, what a wimp google is to let this happen. I guess it’s much easier to play tough on users and creators than on advertisers
I am surprised how anyone wouldn't use ad blocker at this point. I have been using ad blockers for years, also I never use CZcams native app and always watch in mobile browser that also has an ad blocker. If CZcams ever decides to block ad blockers, I would stop watching CZcams for the better.
I use adblockers on my laptop, but I can't find one that works on my android.
I'm on the autism spectrum, and overly-aggressive ads cause me physical pain. I stopped watching TV decades ago because I couldn't stand the forceful impact of the ads. If YT forces me to watch advertisements, I'll have to make hard value judgement on whether it's worth paying for their premium service, or if I should just bail. There's a lot of creators I support here but... this is no Netflix or Nebula. I'm glad so many science and history channels have set up Nebula as a backup, because I suspect I'd just switch to that in a heartbeat.
Advertising is a psychopath's field, and we now have a psychopath algorithm hell-bent on forcing people to see them. I suspect things will get pretty dark when YT stops adblockers.
TV is somewhat better in that respect now, but it's still a problem. The issue that I've got here is that the kinds of videos I'm watching are mostly smaller channels and it's unclear to me how many of them get any revenue share and of those that do how much it is. There's little point in me paying for the premium package if most of the money is going to channels with less of a need. Especially with the dickish stuff like not allowing smaller creators to get donations directly from the viewers.
Physical pain.
Tv from ads is not that bad
Yeah I have misophonia, a severe sound sensitivity and I'm in the same boat.
The Copycats are the worst! Non-creative folk who like to Rip off other creators….. wish there was a way that CZcams could recognize a Copycat and follow suit, but they are too concerned with making money to think about that.
“YT has been trapped paying creators too much”
Ten seconds in and I’m already screaming in agreement. I’ve heard rumblings from an ex-Google employee that this is quite literally the problem for which there are MULTIPLE symptoms. It’s apparently been responsible for things like “cancelling” ban waves and demonetization: Current climate is just a good excuse to cut the rampant spending.
I've been using CZcams since 2007. In the very early days, it was just people posting videos for fun. There was no revenue sharing. When it got to the point where it is now, where people are making videos CZcams as a career, you know it's unsustainable.
God forbid people who put in the effort to make videos get paid.
@@MagnaGreshYT wasn’t designed in the beginning to be a career