《 Battle Of ISANDLWANA 》( 1879/01/22 )_Final

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  • čas přidán 31. 12. 2011
  • The Zulu attack then developed in the traditional horns and chest of the buffalo, with the aim of encircling the British position. From Pulleine's vantage point in the camp, at first only the right horn and then the chest (centre) of the attack seemed to be developing. Pulleine sent out first one, then all six companies of the 24th Foot into an extended firing line, with the aim of meeting the Zulu attack head-on and checking it with firepower.
    Durnford's men, upon meeting elements of the Zulu centre, had retreated to a donga, a dried-out watercourse, on the British right flank where they formed a defensive line.
    The Rocket Battery under Durnford's command, which was not mounted and dropped behind the rest of the force, was isolated and overrun very early in the engagement. The two battalions of native troops were in Durnford's line; while all the officers and NCOs carried rifles, only one in 10 in the ranks was armed with a muzzle-loading musket with limited ammunition and many of them started to leave the battlefield at this point.
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  • @RyanRyzzo
    @RyanRyzzo Před 9 lety +405

    You wouldn't get scenes like this nowadays. It'll be all shaky cam closeups of the same six people doing the same aaaargh sound.

    • @HotaruZoku
      @HotaruZoku Před 9 lety +4

      Well put.

    • @georgeadams3125
      @georgeadams3125 Před 9 lety +46

      Yes, I agree. I really do hate today's battle scenes. You can barely see anything, and the camera shakes like crazy.

    • @yurisc4633
      @yurisc4633 Před 9 lety +41

      If it was today the movie wouldn't even been on the theaters because RACISM.

    • @Nebrox
      @Nebrox Před 9 lety +18

      Or CGI that looks like a low budget game.

    • @illogicalassertations7875
      @illogicalassertations7875 Před 9 lety +29

      I agree completely. They almost always fail to give a sense of scale, heavily overusing close in shots and shaking the camera like crazy. Directors always try to make a big artistic statements, spoiling scenes that would work far better if shot more conventionally. Older films were not immune to this, but it is becoming absurdly common these days.

  • @peterhoughton3094
    @peterhoughton3094 Před 4 lety +669

    At the time Chard, who defended Rorkes drift successfully with 100 men was called "stupid" and "dull".... he faced even worse odds (40 - 1), as against 20-1 in this battle, and was successful. Lots of historians have tried to discredit him and explain away his success. He certainly had good help. But he was also humble and knew good advice when he heard it. He made a simple and clear decision, to fortify and shorten lines and to have a fall back position that everyone knew about. He fought without cavalry and artillery so had no ability to recce or supress. And he was only a lieutenant of Engineers. A General and two colonels failed at Isandlwana. And the zulus did everything right, executing their battle plan perfectly. In tight formation, with the 24th shoulder to shoulder, regular supply of ammo and well protected by a wagon laager, with the artillery firing grape shot and the cavalry picking at the zulu wings, this would have been a one sided fight the other way. Pride, arrogance, poor communication, unclear orders, no contingencies... a copy book example of poor leadership, equally in my view shared by Pulleine (indecisive), Durnford (reckless) and Chelmsford (outplayed). Comments below about failures of the Martini Henry don't stack up. At Rorkes Drift the garrison fired an amazing 20000 rounds from approx 100 rifles - they were still working at the end of the battle. The difference was leadership and strategy.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 2 lety +14

      Pulleine would have defended tighter had Durnford not turned up to upset the apple cart. During the morning false alarm (circa 8.00 to 10.00 am) Pulleine ordered a stand to order right in front of the tents, when news of thousand of Zulus in the hills was first given. Pulleine did not send the troops out far and wide. He only did that later as he was obliged to cover Durnfords retreat if he got into difficulties, which he did.
      Durnford even ordered two companies of the 24th Foot to follow him miles out, before Pulleine said no.
      Pulleine did little wrong, and the camp was far too large to laager it. It was a km in extent. Creating a smallish laager would have handed much of supplies, all the tents, all the oxen etc to the Zulus, and it wasn't until the end of the battle that the true gravity of the situation set it. It was too late by then.

    • @alessiodecarolis
      @alessiodecarolis Před 2 lety +24

      I think they should've fortified the camp from the start, this was common pratice against "primitive" opponents, I never understood why they didn't, perhaps they reputed their enemies too "inferior"...

    • @andrewaustin6369
      @andrewaustin6369 Před 2 lety +37

      Isandalwhana was supposed to be a very temporary stop which is why no defensive work was put into it. Chelmsford had adequate intelligence of the Zulu movement's including the impis to the north of the camp but in his incompetent wisdom believed they were feints to distract his drive onto Ulundi. When the British government found out what freer and chelmsford had done they were going to order a halt and retreat back to natal ironically the victory at Isandalwhana was the Zulu's downfall as Britain was then forced into the war with a completely predictable end once the full support was given to the war.
      The martini rifle used by the British was a problem after firing 30 to 50 rounds the chamber heats to the point that thin casing of the cartridge swells and the rifle isn't able to eject it having to be forced out usually done with the bayonet. At the former firing range i worked at we had a member who had the rifle and a supply of ammunition and was happy to conduct an experiment, in the cool of an English winter we were able to fire 49 rounds at the prescribed rate of the army at the time of this battle it jammed on the 50th round but we were more gentle in getting it out. What most also don't realise is how fragile these cartridges were it was very easy to damage them to the point of deformation it's not hard to imagine in the heat of battle more then few being damaged.
      Bottom line is chelmsford was an incompetent moron who was the architect of this defeat but that takes nothing away from the Zulu's they suffered huge casualties in this victory and went on to lose many of their best at Rourke's drift. Should have said earlier we did the experiment on 3 different days and never managed to fire 50 rounds.

    • @alessiodecarolis
      @alessiodecarolis Před 2 lety +10

      @@andrewaustin6369 Right, but temporary or not it's better stay safe than sorry, if you look f.e. to the ancient romans they always fortified their camps as a rule, just to avoid some nasty surprise, the english at Azincourt lose more men in their acampment's attack from some French stragglers than in the real battle, just because it wasn't properly defended.

    • @andrewaustin6369
      @andrewaustin6369 Před 2 lety +12

      @@alessiodecarolisYour correct It was procedure to prepare defences but Chelmsford refused as he decided that they would be moving out before the defences could be finished, his ability to ignore qualified advice, intelligence and procedure was incredible.

  • @evsal8087
    @evsal8087 Před 10 měsíci +86

    "I was obliged to remain here with my infantry." ....that line makes me tear up everytime.

    • @andrewkamoha4666
      @andrewkamoha4666 Před 3 měsíci

      IMHO, seems a cliche ...

    • @evsal8087
      @evsal8087 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@andrewkamoha4666 Sounds like you're the kind of person who tries to shit on something noble out of your own insecurity.

    • @andrewkamoha4666
      @andrewkamoha4666 Před 3 měsíci

      @@evsal8087 "Sounds like you're the kind of person who" is too dumb to know history. The *hero's journey* exists since Ancient Mesopotamian.

    • @evsal8087
      @evsal8087 Před 3 měsíci

      @@andrewkamoha4666 I see I hit a nerve. Good. Eat shit fucker.

    • @evsal8087
      @evsal8087 Před 3 měsíci

      @@andrewkamoha4666 What? Cat got your crotch? No witty reply for me calling you a cowardly pedant? No self-respect?

  • @simodo11
    @simodo11 Před rokem +73

    It’s a perfect battle scene ,perfectly filmed at all angles ,made it so realistic , this is what we are missing today .

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +1

      Except it didn't happen like this in reality.

  • @24thregimentoffoot87
    @24thregimentoffoot87 Před 8 lety +85

    Most memorable line:
    "Well fought, gentlemen. It's time to save the colours. Get to Rorke's Drift. You must warn them." ~Lt. Col. Pulleine

    • @awesomescience8871
      @awesomescience8871 Před 8 lety +3

      24thRegimentOfFoot You have a cool channel, bro!

    • @mauropersiano5105
      @mauropersiano5105 Před 5 lety +1

      Good Mauro Malta

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Was only given to Melville Coghill was fleeing the battlefield when he came upon Melville and proceeded to help him try and save the colours
      He was Adjt of the regiment at the time

    • @eduardojesusjorgepascual1781
      @eduardojesusjorgepascual1781 Před měsícem +1

      Long lives South Africa....

    • @robertpalmacci7363
      @robertpalmacci7363 Před měsícem

      How can we be sure Pulleine did say so? The three of them all died on the field.

  • @Tankbattlion761
    @Tankbattlion761 Před 8 lety +342

    It is exactly 134 years on this day that this battle took place. This battle shows that should never underestimate an enemy force.

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před rokem +11

      And now it has been 140 years. Only 10 years now until the 150 year anniversary. Quite remarkable how much, and yet at the same time so Little has changed.

    • @Tankbattlion761
      @Tankbattlion761 Před rokem +2

      @@danielwhyatt3278 Yeah

    • @NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl
      @NapoleonBonaparte-of4sl Před rokem

      And then the Brits win on Rorkes Drift despite being very very heavily outnumbered, bruh what the fuck its happening

    • @aceinternational4788
      @aceinternational4788 Před rokem

      @@Tankbattlion761 damn you message back after 6 years loool how old are you now and how are you doing haha

    • @garyturner5739
      @garyturner5739 Před rokem +4

      Well they learnt from massacre because they beat the Zulus later in year. Then British annexed the Zulu lands.

  • @christoph404
    @christoph404 Před 3 lety +193

    there is a real sense of a desperate battle going on in this movie, I mean it is quite intense and actually in cinematic terms it is superbly realised with what looks like thousands of extras, no Cgi or flashy jump cuts or crash editing, just traditional cinema visual language at its best.....a very underrated movie, I have it on a so so quality DVD but it really should be released on a good quality blu ray....it really deserves it.

    • @marcoscalderon5321
      @marcoscalderon5321 Před 2 lety +1

      Deberían hacer un remake , paro usando la tecnología actual ( CGI) y sin censura mostrando como quedaron los cadáveres de los ingleses a manos de los Zulues. ( Látex porsupuesto), porque estas batallas fueron muy sangrientas en extremo .

    • @globalchaos1984
      @globalchaos1984 Před rokem +1

      Absolutely right

    • @finchvalor
      @finchvalor Před 2 měsíci +1

      Dude I swear I thought this was just a live stream clipped from Minneapolis. I visited the year Floyd OD'd, and I literally saw this exact thing playing out. Crazy how history tends to repeat itself. I wonder which Black person OD'd in police custody for this historical event to play out the way it did?

  • @mitchelnorton2692
    @mitchelnorton2692 Před rokem +74

    My dad took me to see this in the theater and that scene where he shot the flag free lives forever . In the theater it made the audience cheer. Bloody damn good movie, way underrated.

    • @willmoore8708
      @willmoore8708 Před rokem +10

      One of the few FICTICIOUS parts of the film. Oh well, gotta give something for the Brits something to cheer about.

    • @The_OneManCrowd
      @The_OneManCrowd Před rokem

      @@willmoore8708 Right? They are now a slovenly nation of 3rd World trash run by unelected marxist bureaucrat dictators.

    • @willmoore8708
      @willmoore8708 Před rokem

      @@The_OneManCrowd That doesn't take away from the fact that that scene was pure Neo-Victorian propagandist horsesh1t.
      But, hey, "Rule Britania", huh?
      By the way... Who elected that horse faced queen anyway? Let alone the present day mule face King?

    • @helmutspanker
      @helmutspanker Před rokem +4

      ​@@willmoore8708 This film is notable for being surprisingly accurate, but it's still a movie, not a documentary. The director's idea to add that scene brought the battle to a wonderful and very symbolic close. This film didn't fare well with critics at the time, but I think it has aged very well and the battle scenes compared to contemporary CGI are a pure delight to behold. The chaos is captured brilliantly.

  • @donfoley1590
    @donfoley1590 Před 5 lety +277

    Probably one of the best battle scenes ever Filmed!! And by the way, they don't make movies like this anymore. A sheer spectical, deserving of an Oscar in my opinion

    • @spicy_rice0
      @spicy_rice0 Před rokem +5

      Bro this actually happened this movie is based off of a true movie

    • @kevinoverbeck4250
      @kevinoverbeck4250 Před rokem

      @@spicy_rice0 Dang! Youre right!

    • @simongray2533
      @simongray2533 Před rokem +9

      You should watch Dino Laurentis' "Waterloo" Starring Christopher Plummer and Rod Steiger and thousands of "extras" from the Red Army!! It's an absolutely stunning film and extremely historically accurate.

    • @garymartin1040
      @garymartin1040 Před rokem +5

      Yeah but they didn't have to kill Burt, last time we ever loan England any actors.

    • @cdeford
      @cdeford Před rokem +2

      @@garymartin1040 America killed him plenty of times.

  • @wendywaustin
    @wendywaustin Před 6 lety +1077

    They caught the Brits napping. Remember: you snooze, Zulus.

    • @tabasco599
      @tabasco599 Před 4 lety +63

      Wendy Austin underrated comment

    • @ingurlund9657
      @ingurlund9657 Před 3 lety +33

      Very good.

    • @user-if2ph3hc9w
      @user-if2ph3hc9w Před 3 lety +13

      скорее всего Британцев на марше разбили , не успели они свою артиллерию развернуть

    • @SYMBI05IS
      @SYMBI05IS Před 3 lety +26

      There's the door, get out..

    • @Ionlydrinktoiletwater1234
      @Ionlydrinktoiletwater1234 Před 3 lety +3

      @@tabasco599 jmj
      Jmjm
      Mkmjj

  • @globalchaos1984
    @globalchaos1984 Před rokem +38

    Respect to both Brits & Zulu, true warriors

    • @NurAbiNaz_kochegar
      @NurAbiNaz_kochegar Před 9 měsíci

      Войны только зулусы, британцы оккупанты

  • @shauntaylor6040
    @shauntaylor6040 Před rokem +8

    The Zulu had one battle in it and this was it, when the British returned with even more artillery and cavalry the next year, the Zulu had lost their best men and had nothing left.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 Před 3 měsíci

      Indeed
      the Brits may have lost 1,800
      but they took 3,000 with them

  • @SAYLEMAN
    @SAYLEMAN Před 5 lety +645

    A thoroughly underrated film. Well researched, well filmed and directed.

    • @thefoolishgmodcube2644
      @thefoolishgmodcube2644 Před 4 lety +5

      John Cornell How so? (If you still exist after a year)

    • @malafunkshun8086
      @malafunkshun8086 Před 3 lety +43

      The filming and direction, yup. The history....not so much:
      1. Some of the strategy and tactics are mischaracterized. The British infantry were not entirely concentrated (as seen in this movie) but deployed much further away from the camp. The Zulu didn’t just charge en masse but also employed infiltration and ambush tactics to surprise the enemy and keep combat up close and personal.
      2. Recent research and a reexamination of written sources has revealed that the British at Isandhlwana had lots of ammo. The problem is that the camp was poorly sited by Chelmsford and the deployment of troops was poorly managed by both Pulleine (basically a supply officer) and Durnford (who had literally just arrived at the camp before the battle began and did not have time to properly inspect or prepare defenses). Durnford also over-extended himself on the right flank and was forced to retreat (as seen in the movie), exposing portions of the 24th to an entire assault by the Zulu “right side” of the “horns.”
      3. While the African auxiliaries working for the British are depicted in the movie, most of them did not have proper rifles, and most of them began fleeing as the battle intensified. This was only partially depicted in this movie.
      3. The ending (flag scene) was completely fictional and was designed - as much of this film apparently was - to portray the arrogance and overall incompetence of the Isandhlwana Campaign. I also detect in this movie quite a bit of “white guilt” over what happened during the Victorian Age when it comes to British Imperialism and South Africa. This “guilt” has a tendency to mischaracterize not only the whites in this film but also the Africans on both sides (although the film makes a fair effort to portray the Zulu in greater depth, especially when compared to the original “Zulu”).

    • @antonyjenkins7197
      @antonyjenkins7197 Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed my friend 👍

    • @mrnobody6447
      @mrnobody6447 Před 3 lety +3

      @@malafunkshun8086 to be honest in zulu it was specifically the point of view of the british and the zulu were regarded with fear, I havent seen this film in entirety but I have zulu. I mean to suppose in zulu you dont get the chance but a few scant scenes to see any indication of their culture outside of battlefield tactics?

    • @elijahjamescomia6331
      @elijahjamescomia6331 Před 3 lety +3

      I want to watch this movie bad eben though im just a 11 year old

  • @10000years
    @10000years Před 6 lety +154

    I didn't know capture the flag could be this intense

    • @kaito1136
      @kaito1136 Před 2 lety +20

      Gamers Moment

    • @danielomar9712
      @danielomar9712 Před rokem +5

      In the end it was a tie anyways so gg

    • @theshakter
      @theshakter Před rokem +2

      That has lit up my day.

    • @pavel8485
      @pavel8485 Před rokem +2

      @@danielomar9712 I don't think that there was a problem to zuluss to swim and take the flag again in reality

    • @Fergusthygreat
      @Fergusthygreat Před 13 dny +1

      Fr, had to respawn multiple times 😭🙏

  • @floki5605
    @floki5605 Před 2 lety +23

    This was a surprisingly realistic depiction of a chaotic battle, beats modern movies by a long shot. They just don't make em like they used to...

  • @Bill308A10
    @Bill308A10 Před 2 lety +62

    This is what happens when both sides of the battlefield is full of men with utter grit and balls of Steel. One can help to cheer on both sides during the engagement.

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 Před rokem

      What did the men come back to .Poverty

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 Před rokem

      And high gas bills

    • @Bill308A10
      @Bill308A10 Před rokem +2

      @@michaelmcginley7930 this was years ago what does my statement have to do with modern problems ? I know things suck right now but everything isn’t about the current state of affairs or political issues. Your comment is unwarranted.

    • @becky2235
      @becky2235 Před rokem

      Needless death and suffuring?

    • @Bill308A10
      @Bill308A10 Před rokem +2

      @@becky2235 agreed, war sucks and always will.

  • @hannibalkills1214
    @hannibalkills1214 Před 8 lety +352

    Well that was an awesome round of Capture the Flag mode!

  • @russellbrown7028
    @russellbrown7028 Před 7 lety +475

    The British Little Big Horn, and caused by similar blunders of overconfidence, like division of forces and underestimating enemy strength and mobility.

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 Před 4 lety +17

      Indeed

    • @gatonasrani5700
      @gatonasrani5700 Před 4 lety +20

      Thanks.
      I glad Zulu people for this victory, as a Hispanoamerican proud of my Spanish Jewish (Sephardi) ancestry.
      But you had noted in short, the errors that made possible for the Zulu Impi the encircleing, and anhilation of the defensive disposition of Brits.
      Without the red coats' fails, for all the wonderful gallantry, discipline, stamina and organization of Zulu royal army, it wouldn't be enough to defeat and expell the British from there.

    • @craigham93
      @craigham93 Před 4 lety +21

      @@gatonasrani5700 it is widely acknowledged that the decision to widen the defensive perimeter to the extent which their fire was not sufficiently concentrated enough to stop the zulu advance. Had they formed a laager or a defensive square around the camp. They should have had enough fire power to stop even 25,000 zulus. They had the latest weapons and were able to fire 10 rounds per man, per minute. That would have been more than sufficient. There are also theories about the solar eclipse too but it was a tactical nightmare and not one which chelmsford repeated the following year at the kings Kraal at Ulundi

    • @jammydodger1449
      @jammydodger1449 Před 4 lety +25

      It was actually lost because the main force had left the encampment to persue what they thought was the main zulu force in the mountains near-by. It was valid deception by the enemy force in my opinion.

    • @gatonasrani5700
      @gatonasrani5700 Před 3 lety +11

      @Dodadeus That's right. Their big mistakes in Isandlwana were corrected and British learned very well how to deal with a much better known enemy.

  • @joshuagrover795
    @joshuagrover795 Před 8 měsíci +36

    Colonel Henry Pulleine's goodbye letter to his wife.
    "Isandlwana
    Zululand"
    "January 22nd '79."
    "My dearest"
    "I write to you at a moment of great destiny for us out here at Isandlwana, a place of great strange beauty." "Whatever happens you must know that my throughts are with you and our children now and forever."
    "With my fondest love."

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 4 měsíci +1

      No goodbye letter in real life. Pulleine was shot and killed near the front line, Commanding his men. He wasn't in a tent writing a letter.

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@lyndoncmp5751same as Durnford killed commanding the men unlike several officers who tried to make it out on horse like Sir Horace Smith Dorrien who was given his mount by an artilleryman
      One company is actually found halfway towards fugitives drift as they attempted to launch a fighting retreat under their OC but were cut down after running out of rounds

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@wargey3431
      Yes Durnford stayed and made a stand. Are you referring to Lt Anstey of the 24th, who was found along Fugitives Trail with around 40 other 24th Foot men?

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lyndoncmp5751 yes didnt realise it was so few men thought it was a bit more of his company but at least their officer stayed with them to try and fight out they just didnt have anywhere near the amount of rounds needed to conduct a fighting withdraw

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@wargey3431
      All I know is that in Snooks book How Can Man Die Better he writes Anstey and around 40 men of the 24th were found two miles down Fugitives Trail. He says individual 24th bodies were found along the route so probably about 60 men of the 24th initially made their break out with Anstey.

  • @CanadaKeith
    @CanadaKeith Před rokem +25

    I cannot watch the movie `Zulu``without also watching this one `Zulu Dawn``. Both are awesome films, and I cannot say neither are historically accurate because I believe they both are for the most part. Stunning films, the both of them, towering above most anything Hollywood has put out.

    • @jakethomas3205
      @jakethomas3205 Před rokem +1

      Whereas they are both excellent films Zulu Dawn is mostly accurate whereas Zulu is not particularly accurate in its portrayal of characters and depiction of events.

  • @Plentisaki
    @Plentisaki Před 5 lety +85

    I recently discovered my Great Great Uncle was killed at the Battle of Isandlwana. He wasn't in the battle itself, but was on a camping holiday nearby and went to complain about the noise!

    • @pjohnson4718
      @pjohnson4718 Před 5 lety +26

      Plentisaki, my Great Great Uncle was at the same holiday camp and died of food poisoning before he could complain about the noise.

    • @afisemenaborevlaka48
      @afisemenaborevlaka48 Před 2 lety +18

      @@pjohnson4718 My Great Great Uncle was also at the holiday camp but he survived the battle. He mentioned that he warned some dumb a$$ not to complain about the noise, and another one not to eat the pork.

    • @SanitysVoid
      @SanitysVoid Před 2 lety +3

      @@afisemenaborevlaka48 Are you guys kidding? LOL

    • @terrydickinson3296
      @terrydickinson3296 Před 2 lety +6

      My great great great uncle's best friend was in charge of troop entertainment and had hilariously blacked up for a matinee slot. He survived the onslaught due to his accurate impression and fled the battle field only forgetting to wash off before reaching the relief column and was shot by an outrider.

    • @Plentisaki
      @Plentisaki Před 2 lety +2

      Good to see humour is still alive and kicking! :-)

  • @medibar576
    @medibar576 Před 5 lety +113

    At 3:30, this has got to be the best clip to look at regarding the filming. It gives a fantastic vibe to the insanity of the battle and the hundreds of troops from both sides moving about. I love it!

    • @tim7052
      @tim7052 Před 2 lety

      The close-in battle scenes of "Zulu", especially when those 3 ranks of riflemen with their backs to the outside face of the redoubt wall - are,at least, on par!! 👍

    • @medibar576
      @medibar576 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tim7052 That's true.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem

      I dont think there is nearly enough Zulus. The wide shots in this film are disappointing because they lack scale. It's much better when the action is close up or at medium distance. The long distance shots don't do it for me.

    • @globalchaos1984
      @globalchaos1984 Před rokem

      ​@@lyndoncmp5751 true, still massively impressive tho

    • @TheGuyWithTheSniper
      @TheGuyWithTheSniper Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's a shame we'll never get scenes like this in a movie ever again. Every single one of those men in the shot is a real human being and the scene plays out exactly as it appears. Now 90% of armies in grand battle sequences are digitally added. Just doesn't hit the same.

  • @doorusthewalrus6903
    @doorusthewalrus6903 Před 2 lety +8

    The whole "save the colors" bit gives me chills. Just a piece of cloth...but so much more than that.

  • @petehoskins1267
    @petehoskins1267 Před rokem +9

    At 8.15 Col Durnford looks up toward Isandlwana hill and sees the right horn of the Zulu army coming around the hill to encircle the British, knows the battle is lost. An amazing movie. 👍

  • @Crazeyfor67
    @Crazeyfor67 Před 7 lety +80

    The battle scenes were some of the best ever put on film.

    • @kazzatermination7867
      @kazzatermination7867 Před 2 lety +1

      Ikr, absolutely love them

    • @BenKlassen1
      @BenKlassen1 Před rokem +1

      @@kazzatermination7867 Someone actually died in the filming of the battle; note the artillery carriage that flips.

    • @globalchaos1984
      @globalchaos1984 Před rokem +4

      ​@@BenKlassen1 damn rip they died making some of the best cinema known to man

  • @42ndregimentofline60
    @42ndregimentofline60 Před 9 lety +228

    2:46 this scene is really impressive, he's facing death but he picked up a bullet and easily loaded his gun, aims for one of enemies and shot him, after that he smiles but soon he died. I pick this for madness of war.

    • @markjosepholimpo3014
      @markjosepholimpo3014 Před 5 lety +3

      Regis

    • @Dom-fx4kt
      @Dom-fx4kt Před 4 lety +8

      @Plutarch Notice how he said "scene" he was talking about the scene of the film. There's no point on trying to be that condescending prick to feel cool.

    • @Dom-fx4kt
      @Dom-fx4kt Před 4 lety +9

      @algogy The truth is even better than fiction.

    • @TruthLivesMatter
      @TruthLivesMatter Před 2 lety +15

      I think that guy was 1 of the Generals of the zulus

    • @Captan40000
      @Captan40000 Před 2 lety

      @@Dom-fx4kt what happened?

  • @AtomicExtremophile
    @AtomicExtremophile Před rokem +4

    Should have been a trilogy, the third movie being Battle of Ulundi - now that was a battle!

  • @markhamer7220
    @markhamer7220 Před 5 lety +75

    Although they were ultimately well beaten you have to admire the discipline of the British Infantryman.

    • @RS-nh9gu
      @RS-nh9gu Před 2 lety +1

      F*ck the British infantryman. Brutons just fought like US nowadays. Poor people and poor countries.

    • @markhamer7220
      @markhamer7220 Před 2 lety +6

      @@RS-nh9gu it was cos of these guys Britain used to rule 70 percent of the known world. You know fu_ k all big mouth.

    • @thegreatdogzilla5855
      @thegreatdogzilla5855 Před 2 lety

      @@markhamer7220 You mean rape, kill, tortured, and enslave poor people.

    • @markhamer7220
      @markhamer7220 Před 2 lety +5

      @@thegreatdogzilla5855 you y can come out with all this colonist bollocks, i am talking from a purely military view point. You can argue all you like about the rights and wrongs of the british empire but one thing you cannot argue with is the fact they were tremendous soldiers.

    • @thegreatdogzilla5855
      @thegreatdogzilla5855 Před 2 lety +1

      @@markhamer7220 The Navy was impressive. I love those old sailing ships.

  • @tachikoma747
    @tachikoma747 Před 9 lety +145

    Funny part is that 105 British did the same thing to 4,000 Zulus the next day. It's all about strategy. Chard seemed to understand that.

    • @patrickmonaghan9131
      @patrickmonaghan9131 Před 9 lety +36

      ***** Chelmsford also spread his men out too thin and Chard kept a continuous firing rate.

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie Před 9 lety +8

      Same day, actually.

    • @irnagtx2366
      @irnagtx2366 Před 9 lety +19

      British imperialists went to Africa occupying local land, looting local resources, destroying the existent structure of local society and call local Aficans "Barbarian". Bragging Britishmen "Bravery". What a shame to brag "Bravery" in Pirate/Bandit behavior!

    • @xXDonTdODRugZXx
      @xXDonTdODRugZXx Před 9 lety +48

      irnagtx Oh, buhu. That was way in the past. I bet the africans would do the same if they were the first to reach the industrial age.

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie Před 9 lety +3

      Bilbo Baggins It was a while ago, but it's effects are still with us today.

  • @warrenharding3796
    @warrenharding3796 Před 6 lety +79

    I love the British Colour Bearer in this. Stays for a long time holding the flag, then when it's time to relieve his flag, whips out his revolver and stays the Zulu. Such heroism. The 24th Foot is a legendary unit!

  • @clonecommanderfoggy682
    @clonecommanderfoggy682 Před 3 lety +45

    "We'll fought, Gentlemen. The time has come to save the colours" Hahaha love officers. It's all going Pete Tong and they still maintain dignity, respect and the stiff upper lip.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 2 lety +7

      All the 24th Foot officers died with their men and didn't flee on their horses.

    • @clonecommanderfoggy682
      @clonecommanderfoggy682 Před 2 lety +5

      @@lyndoncmp5751 Chads. Every single one of them. I salute them all.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 2 lety +1

      @@clonecommanderfoggy682
      Me too. Cheers.

    • @rup54
      @rup54 Před 2 lety +3

      as they should.

    • @willjanalaurin1929
      @willjanalaurin1929 Před 2 lety +3

      I really loved the representation of that officer + his badass uniform

  • @ubaldocollu6491
    @ubaldocollu6491 Před 3 lety +13

    Fortunately there's always a senior master sergeant that helps someone to get time sacrifing himself and killing a considerable amount of enemies

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Před 8 lety +285

    Reminds me of Custer's last stand on a much larger scale. A mixture of arrogance and incompetence of the leadership led to disaster.

    • @53Betsy
      @53Betsy Před 8 lety +6

      David Smith That came to my mind also.

    • @sierrapundit
      @sierrapundit Před 8 lety +8

      +David Smith The subsequent battle of Rorke's Drift (Zulu!) also reminds me of Custer's Last Stand, except the natives didn't win.

    • @kempaku982
      @kempaku982 Před 8 lety +20

      +David Smith Isandhlwana was considered a "Little Big Horn" for the British Army for many years after..

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel Před 8 lety +1

      +John Reece More like the stand made by Reno and Benteen then.

    • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
      @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Před 8 lety +8

      b52gf16c I still get pissed when I think about that. They were asked to do the near impossible and not given the proper support to do it.

  • @geraldshields9035
    @geraldshields9035 Před 6 lety +31

    This is funny: We lose the battle, but bloody hell, I got the guy carrying our flag! :)

  • @tim7052
    @tim7052 Před 2 lety +70

    Sad to relate that it was only some months AFTER the battle, that the battlefield was cleared. Reports state of how eerily silent the place was, and that only skeletal remains of the fallen were found and recovered.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před rokem +5

      I hear there's a lot of wildlife in Africa.

    • @tim7052
      @tim7052 Před rokem +5

      @@AudieHolland Moot point. But most skelons found were complete, disproving the theory of dislocation by predation.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Před rokem +2

      @@tim7052 If they weren't eaten by vultures at least, their remains would have been mummified.

    • @tim7052
      @tim7052 Před rokem +5

      @@AudieHolland No. Not in the African sun. Putrefaction would've rotted the tissues away. Mummification, however, requires a stable environment out of sunlight and the elements to be successful.

    • @adamp5879
      @adamp5879 Před rokem +7

      They also found the camp dogs as well living in the area. Most of them had gone wild. I think you can imagine what they are to survive.

  • @malcolmcog
    @malcolmcog Před 3 lety +8

    My distamt relative, Nevill Coghill, was awarded the Victoria Cross for his attempt to save the Colours

  • @RworldKM
    @RworldKM Před 9 lety +226

    Gotta give that ammo quartermaster a facepalm, cause he's apprently blind to the zerg rush coming and still took his own bloody sweet time.

    • @Radrook
      @Radrook Před 9 lety +8

      Overconfidence!

    • @RworldKM
      @RworldKM Před 9 lety +8

      ***** Errr, no they didn't. The British were the pricks in this war; they wanted to colonize Zululand for their natural resources but the Zulu people refuse. So the British took it by force. They thought that it'd be easy since they had superior firepower, but this battle proved them wrong.
      The Zulu people lost the war, but from then on they were forever immortalized as fearsome warriors that not even guns could faze them.

    • @MKIVWWI
      @MKIVWWI Před 9 lety +11

      Rworld Tactically, it was the final major battle of the war, the Battle of Ulundi that broke the Zulu military power once and for all. The British deployed in a massive square (which they should have done here), which proved impossible for the Zulus to even reach, let alone break. Some accounts say no Zulu got within 30 yards of the British line. With a little over 100 total casualties (10 dead, 87 wounded), the British inflicted about 1,500 Zulu casualties (roughly 500 dead and over 1,000 wounded).

    • @rainthegenericname_7131
      @rainthegenericname_7131 Před 9 lety +1

      Rworld "BLOODY KIDS THESE DAYS. YOU GOT TO WAIT YOUR DAMN TURN YOU YOUNGSTERS!"

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel Před 8 lety +14

      +Rworld Don't blame the quartermaster. He'd been warning them to construct additional pylons throughout.

  • @09maximous
    @09maximous Před 9 lety +42

    The part when the zulus came over the hill it gave me goosebumps

  • @stevenmoore4612
    @stevenmoore4612 Před 2 lety +15

    Just imagine being that surprised and outnumbered! It would definitely be terrifying to experience and live this!

  • @spectreman2532
    @spectreman2532 Před 2 lety +8

    Epic. They don't have the balls to make raw movies like this anymore.

  • @Isildun9
    @Isildun9 Před 6 lety +30

    The saddest thing, Chelmsford couldn't even own up to what was obviously his own failure. He placed the blame on Colonel Durnford, despite that he ha left Lt. Colonel Pulleine in command, and he had neglected to order the camp to laager up with the wagons, despite the numerous warnings from the locals, and he all but blatantly ignored the numerous messages that were sent from the camp to him, begging him to come back and reinforce them. He may have regained the Queens favor some time later, but it is a small satisfaction that after the Anglo-Zulu War, he never held another active military command again.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem

      Durnford WAS largely to blame tactically for the defeat.

    • @B25gunship
      @B25gunship Před rokem +1

      The Brits had some doozies. Montgomery comes to mind. I read where at the late stages of WW2 his contemporaries openly laughed in his face. And he had the balls after the war to claim if he had been listened to the war would have end sooner. Maybe if he had fought his way out of Caen it would have ended sooner too.

    • @himoffthequakeroatbox4320
      @himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Před rokem

      @@B25gunship Utter tosh. Sure your MAGA hat's not too tight?

    • @himoffthequakeroatbox4320
      @himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Před rokem +1

      And before all that, dividing his force and not scouting properly.

    • @andrewaustin6369
      @andrewaustin6369 Před rokem +1

      @@B25gunship Always welcome the input of an American.

  • @robertstorey01296
    @robertstorey01296 Před 8 lety +64

    I know this one was caused by incompetence but a last stand fighting to the end is a magnificent thing.

    • @CorsetGrace
      @CorsetGrace Před 8 lety +10

      +bobst657 Unless you are there. On the wrong side, I mean.

    • @FHIPrincePeter
      @FHIPrincePeter Před 2 lety +2

      It was caused by superior tactics and strategy on the day.

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian Před 2 lety +1

      It wasn't incompetence or last stand. It was utter defeat of the British and decisive Zulu victory.

    • @MNM-lq9te
      @MNM-lq9te Před rokem +1

      I mean what else could you do? You can't flee since the zulu warrior is much faster than you, and can cut you off from fleeing and stab you in the back while running. You can't really surrender either since in the heat of the battle no warrior is going to stop and take you prisoner, they would kill you and move on.
      You could try to pretend to be dead but there is a risk that some of the warriors in the up coming groups double tap the dead to make sure they are dead and are most likly to loot the bodies like we see in the last scene and for someone to be that still and hold their breath for that lost in near impossible to do.

    • @condedooku9750
      @condedooku9750 Před rokem

      @@MNM-lq9te There is a way to survive... Take a horse and run away! Because if I'm not mistaken the only British soldiers who survived this battle escaped because they were on horseback.

  • @charlesmaximus9161
    @charlesmaximus9161 Před 2 lety +6

    11:45
    The salvaging of the colours, as the ol’ Union Jack swims her way back to safety. Beautiful.

  • @mfundomagubane8499
    @mfundomagubane8499 Před 2 lety +8

    I am proud to be a Zulu our forefathers wasn't coward that why we're not scared for death

  • @Earthman99999
    @Earthman99999 Před 2 lety +4

    Geez.... these Wakanda Warriors are a formidable opponent in numbers.

  • @matthewmcmahon8980
    @matthewmcmahon8980 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Epic cinema. I dread to think how this might be cast in 2024!

  • @arkwill14
    @arkwill14 Před rokem +9

    Shout-out to the stuntmen performing the stunt at 7:40. That's no simple task overturning an artillery wagon by going over a steep grade and not getting anybody hurt. It looks like it practically rolled over that one guy.

  • @DV1287
    @DV1287 Před 3 lety +20

    The British totally underestimated the enemy they were facing, which is why they lost. But they did bought enough time for rorkes drift. The two officers who died defending the colours (red is melvill, and coghill is in blue) both earned Victoria crosses for their actions posthumously.

  • @SillyPersonHere
    @SillyPersonHere Před 7 lety +20

    Fun fact about this battle: the Zulus were ordered to kill all the men in red, so those, who had non-red uniform (cavalry, cannons crew etc) were more likely to survive.

    • @amsfountain8792
      @amsfountain8792 Před 2 lety +1

      They were all killed.

    • @SillyPersonHere
      @SillyPersonHere Před 2 lety

      @грец any proof ?

    • @samanth.
      @samanth. Před 2 lety

      @@SillyPersonHere zulus killed everybody

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem

      No, its because those in red were on foot. Those non redcoats who survived did so because they were on horseback.
      The Zulus killed everyone and everything they got their hands on, including horses and camp pets.

  • @sexyAnonygirl86
    @sexyAnonygirl86 Před 10 lety +85

    the worlds 1st game of capture the flag.

    • @emiliu81
      @emiliu81 Před 6 lety +1

      sexyAnonygirl86 the trouble is that was no game, sorry 😞 👎

    • @erichogan9769
      @erichogan9769 Před 2 lety +1

      first game of capture the flag? that would have been thousands of years before this battle

  • @chrisfarr2114
    @chrisfarr2114 Před 2 lety +21

    People forget Zulu Dawn but it is an excellent film as commented by others. Britain's arrogance in just walking into Zululand was astounding. I have been on the Zulu battle-fields tour and for any enthusiast, it is well worth going. It's only when you stand next to the cairns on ISandlwana and look down to where the Zulus attached from, do you appreciate the fear in the British soldiers. Rorke's Drift is nothing like in the film as the film was made in the Drakenburg mountains. If you get a chance to stay at the hotel that is built into the side of the Nqutu hills, do it.

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Před 2 lety

      fear animals is always there

    • @Trebor74
      @Trebor74 Před 2 lety +2

      It wasn't Britain that did it. It was the local govern without authorization from parliament. It only became British after the battle was lost and parliament took control

    • @liverpoolscottish6430
      @liverpoolscottish6430 Před rokem +1

      It wasn't official British policy to enter Zulu territory. Sir Bartle Frere, the governor of Natal took that upon himself. The official British government policy was to seek a peaceful settlement with the Zulu. B-F decided that the Zulu's had to be defeated to remove the potential threat that they presented to Natal. Ergo, you really ought to be attributing, "arrogance," to Bartle-Frere, NOT Britain ;)

    • @thomaspickard4138
      @thomaspickard4138 Před rokem +2

      Considering there was only 750 British troops and some 25,000 zulus yeh ignorance 😂😂 the still won the 2nd boer wars and took full control of South Africa so maybe it Paid off lol

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +1

      They didn't just walk into Zululand. They took a large army.
      Despite some good tactics and brave/skilled fighting the Zulus just got somewhat lucky at Isandlwana. Had the full 3rd Column been there, they would have lost. They would have lost even against the forces that were there if Durnford didn't make massive tactical blunders.

  • @bowenc24
    @bowenc24 Před 2 lety +10

    Just a great battle scene, I know it sounds cheesy, but they don’t make battle scenes like the movies from this era anymore.

  • @KarateTy
    @KarateTy Před 11 lety +8

    Its from Zulu: Dawn
    If you saw the movie Zulu, this is based off the battle before that.

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 Před 5 lety +220

    Militarized Walmart employees fight off horde of Black Friday shoppers, 2022 (Colorized)

  • @aceofspades.2856
    @aceofspades.2856 Před rokem +8

    Even with her overwhelming numbers. The Zulus ultimately lost the war 🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 Před rokem +2

      thats because their numbers were actually *tiny* , like most of the tribal-based cultures. The Zulus may have 'won' this battle but it was a strategic defeat for them.
      The British force that was wiped out was not even one full regiment, and it was less than 1% of the total strength of the British Army. Replacement troops were shipped over within the month and the loss of the unit had little overall effect on the goals of the Army.
      The Zulu force however was pretty much 100% of the entire country's military strength. All 13 of the Zulu regiments were either in the battle or at Rourkes Drift. And the way the Zulu impi set up on the battlefield, the fittest troops they had (at the front of the 'horns') and the most elite troops (at the front of the 'chest') were the ones who recieved the majority of the British rifle and cannon fire, and hence the ones who made up most of the troops killed.
      The Zulus could not replace their losses from this battle. The British could.
      Its the same with all tribal-based cultures. Once they get into an open battle with an organised army, they may defeat them on the battlefield, but their martial strength is permanently gone. Organised armies dont have this problem - even defeated forces (think the Nazis and Japanese in WW2) never 'ran out of soldiers'

  • @craigham93
    @craigham93 Před 4 lety +6

    One of the best soundtracks I have ever heard and although inaccurate, the film was a perfect encapsulation of Chelmsfords arrogance and incompetence. On both counts, his men paid with their lives.

  • @gunslinger1911a1
    @gunslinger1911a1 Před 9 lety +107

    This of course, is a showing of tactical and logistical failures. As where of course the battle of Rorke's Drift, is one of logistical, tactical and man to man successes. The real differences here folks, is ground. Rorkes drift was small, easily fortified. Less ground is always easier to hold, than more. Sun Tzu would call it death ground, where men are turned into heroes because they will fight and die for every inch. That's the primary reason for victory in Rorkes, but it is added upon, by proper use of defensive tactics of a siege. What they called a flying platoon, is better known by the Prussians and French who invented it, as a Buttressing Force. A unit to move from place to place and stop up the flow of any foe who might be making a breach. As well as being able to funnel the foe into killing zones, where the famous English Volley Fire could be used to greatest effect. This is the Art of War all the way. Small area, easy to defend, with no hope of retreat, properly fortified, allowed less than 200, to throw back more than 20 times their own number. Sun Tzu would have been proud I am certain.

    • @paulweston4829
      @paulweston4829 Před 8 lety +2

      gunslinger1911a1 How can the Prussians and French both invent the buttressing force? Either it was the one or the other - if indeed your statment is correct.

    • @gunslinger1911a1
      @gunslinger1911a1 Před 8 lety +4

      Uh no. They both invented the same tactic, at the same time within a couple years of one another. So they both invented it. They pioneered its use. Neither one is dated as the first to use the concept, but both dated as using it around the same time. Thus they both invented it. Until you can bring empirical proof that one or the other did first. Do that and I will concede my position.

    • @josephpeck8723
      @josephpeck8723 Před 3 lety +2

      @FlyingVualtDweller Out of curiosity, have you ever heard of a band called Sabaton?

    • @The_OneManCrowd
      @The_OneManCrowd Před 2 lety

      @@josephpeck8723 Nice lol.

    • @The_OneManCrowd
      @The_OneManCrowd Před 2 lety +1

      The Japanese commander during the Boxer Rebellion told the American and European troops trying to relive the foreign legations under seige that if you surrounded or cut off the Chines troops, they would fight to the death no matter what. However, if you gave them an avenue of retreat, they would take it and give up the position with minimal bloodshed. They'll be back lol.

  • @ron44968
    @ron44968 Před 9 lety +16

    That General split his troops and that's how they lost. He to busy been a gentleman rather been General.

  • @tullyvision7085
    @tullyvision7085 Před 7 měsíci +2

    For footage from 144 years ago, this is good quality😂❤

  • @anor_naur
    @anor_naur Před 5 měsíci +2

    6 months later the British returned with 5.000 men, 10 cannons and 2 gatling guns. They faced off against 15.000 Zulu warriors at the Battle of Ulundi.
    Unlike at Isandlwana, this time the British formed into a proper square formation and obliterated the Zulus that charged them. Not a single Impi warrior got within 30 yards of the Brits.

  • @Kiyoko504
    @Kiyoko504 Před 7 lety +6

    The best part about these old films is, a ton of it well fallowing directions was improvised on the spot, like when that soldier fell and the General just said "Get Up" and yanked him by the scruff!

  •  Před 7 lety +74

    Should not have split their forces and should have formed a defensive square very early in the battle. The Zulus themselves were no angels, they attacked and enslaved other less powerful African tribes.

    • @markjosepholimpo3014
      @markjosepholimpo3014 Před 5 lety

      Regis

    • @xarv368
      @xarv368 Před 5 lety +2

      Todo pudo ser posible. Lo concreto es que los zulus mostraron superioridad tactica y lo ingleses mucho prejuicio. Así se ganan las batallas. Inglaterra=1300 muertos. Zulus= 1000 muertos. Por otro lado, los ingleses de aquella época eran conocidos en diferentes lugares por ser unos sanguinarios cerdos imperialistas (américa, africa, china, india, etc)

    • @thatoneradicalizedprussian225
      @thatoneradicalizedprussian225 Před 5 lety +3

      @BLACK DEATH Calm down there. How's your day going? Bad it seems.

    • @roberteugene7295
      @roberteugene7295 Před 5 lety

      @@xarv368
      Actually, the Zulus lost about 2,000 dead, and considerably more wounded.

    • @phumlanimncwango7686
      @phumlanimncwango7686 Před 4 lety +1

      Zulus have never enslaved anyone. They united many tribes under one rule. In the same lands they were in.

  • @user-vf7me8ex5v
    @user-vf7me8ex5v Před rokem +9

    Зулусы молодцы.

  • @dragonstudios5234
    @dragonstudios5234 Před 3 lety +11

    1:59 holy shit that looks epic

  • @robertcrespo9773
    @robertcrespo9773 Před 8 lety +213

    Gentlemen, I have been a student of military history since I was little. The movie Zulu (1964) got me interested in this war. Recent study of the battlefield of Isandlwana show that what has believed to have gone down there(and, was shown here) is completely incorrect. Ammo supply was abundant. There were simply a series of failures in the actual ammo itself, not in its absence, as well as various command mistakes made by the C.O. Plus, the Zulus were underestimated, the British were over confident( lets call it what it was, arrogance) and 1,360 or so British troops were facing 20,000 to 25,000 Zulus. BTW, there were about 60 survivors, they were all on horseback. I am compiling a report on Isandhwana and other such mistakes. I will publish them all once finished. I am a tactician, a weapons expert, and bloody honest. Political Correctness is offensive to me. If anyone doesnt want to learn the truth( as in the good, the bad, and the ugly) I suggest you do not read my reports.

    • @fredrickrogers90
      @fredrickrogers90 Před 8 lety +4

      +Robert Crespo Well said sir

    • @jamiegascoigne7321
      @jamiegascoigne7321 Před 8 lety +13

      I personally think that historical events told from an unbiased viewpoint, correctly researched. make for far more intresting and compelling reading. Well done sir.

    • @mstash5
      @mstash5 Před 8 lety +9

      +Robert Crespo Let us know where we can read your reports, sir. As an archaeology student and military history aficionado, I am genuinely interested in what you uncover!

    • @robertcrespo9773
      @robertcrespo9773 Před 8 lety +8

      I shall do so over the summer. I would like to request the British after action reports but as yet do not know how. Also there are still some as of yet unresolved issues concerning exact number of respective troops involved. I will do my best. Thank you gentlemen, for your interest.

    • @robertcrespo9773
      @robertcrespo9773 Před 8 lety +18

      Apparently not. Battlefield scans with metal detectors found tons of bent screws from the outer wooden part of the boxes and lots of the pull loops from the thin metal lining. What was concluded went wrong was that the ammo boxes were at the front lines in abundance. It's just takes time to open them. You have to unscrew a bunch of small screws, then , if I'm not mistaken, pull off two tin straps, then unscrew a single large screw to be able to slide the wooden lid off, then grab the pull loop and yank on it to actually get to the cartridges. This sounds easy. Until you need that ammo in a hurry. The bent screws on the front lines indicate that men partially unscrewed the smaller screws, then disengaged them from the boxes with their rifle butts. Then the men broke open the sliding lid by the same method. With modern brass cartridges this isn't a problem. But the Martini- Henry rifle rounds were very weak and couldn't take any amount of pounding without deforming. Try to shove a deformed round into a gun already caked with black powder fouling and the round might fire. However, extracting that round is going to be lots of fun. Especially when you got thousands of Zulus lost in the immense cloud of black powder smoke in front of you, there is a solar eclipse over head, and your nearest comrade in arms is 5 to 10 feet away. This stuff tends to make enlisted men rather nervous. There was also no attempt prior to the battle to make any sort of defensive fortifications around the camp itself. Plus by the time recall was issued most of the men were already killed at the forward skirmish line. The handfull of survivors ran back through the camp and were chased down and killed by the Zulus. The line of retreat is known as fugitive's trail. It's marked by the cairns of white stones containing the remains of the British Troops.

  • @johnpage4581
    @johnpage4581 Před rokem +5

    Have walked this battlefield many times,really atmospheric place.

  • @iamlegitsubbingtoeveryonew8452

    When is Black Friday at Walmart i’m in my house probably on the roof drinking water for some reason and I just hear this from my nearby Walmart I literally ignored it

  • @mr.majestic8713
    @mr.majestic8713 Před 2 lety +6

    Amazing how the Zulus seem to always be one step ahead of the men on horseback.

  • @thagamerzzz
    @thagamerzzz Před 9 lety +12

    2:58 THAT'S A DAMN BIG ROUND

  • @bethlehemisgay4752
    @bethlehemisgay4752 Před 6 lety +12

    Just think about it its amazing how they managed to make films with all those people and make it look so realistic in it famalamadingdong

  • @user-fc5wi3ze8c
    @user-fc5wi3ze8c Před rokem +12

    Сколько горя принесла эта империя людям

    • @Adept_Ponasenkova
      @Adept_Ponasenkova Před rokem

      Что за чушь?!
      Эта империя принесла цивилизацию! А эти дикари не хотели подчиняться, а они такие хорошие дикари просто с замечательными духовными традициями зжигать заживо вдову! И так далее, сейчас в некоторых регионах это возвращается, я читаю просто в ужасе, там кого-то в жертву принесли там кого-то сожгли, а европейцы боролись против этого и они такие плохие?
      Первые путешественники в Африке и Индии писали что у детей был гной в глазах потому-что не было воды чтобы их промыть, а опять европейцы такие плохие что промывали глаза этим детям.

    • @samanth.
      @samanth. Před rokem +1

      @@Adept_Ponasenkova 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤮💩💩

    • @huseynhuseyn9911
      @huseynhuseyn9911 Před rokem

      vse imperi prineslala qorya lyudyam

    • @CHE_polino
      @CHE_polino Před rokem

      Все империи, особенно британская и росийская

  • @alfredroyal3473
    @alfredroyal3473 Před rokem +5

    Been there and Rorke’s Drift 3 times. Unbelievable what happened.

  • @Eurotrash4367
    @Eurotrash4367 Před 5 lety +14

    This entire scene was filmed in East London in 1993. No extras were required.

  • @skyrim654
    @skyrim654 Před 6 lety +9

    I love the feeling of suspension and grit, without the use of excessive gore. War is gore, yes, but its use in movies today almost feels like a cheap fallback, rather then a detail in the grand scheme of the scenario.

  • @Thomas-sx9wq
    @Thomas-sx9wq Před 8 měsíci +2

    An interesting part of military history. It took overwhelming numbers of Zulus to achieve this Pyrrhic victory. It really served no purpose in the end though because the British returned in larger number and defeated the Zulus. Causing the collapse of their kingdom.

  • @franciscampagna2711
    @franciscampagna2711 Před 10 lety +17

    A stunning victor for the Zulu's but at a very high cost. As Cetshwayo, their chief proclaimed. "It is as if an assegai has been thrust into the belly of the Zulu Nation"

    • @alastair9446
      @alastair9446 Před 2 lety

      Stunning in what way? They outnumbered the English 10 to 1, and still loss three times more troops than they killed. If you measure by troops killed the English won. If by who was left standing on the land it would be the Zulus. Of course, no denying beating the most advance army with just spears is impressive but in terms of military I would not call it stunning.

    • @justinthebeau2590
      @justinthebeau2590 Před 2 lety +3

      Isandlwna was a pyrrhic victory for the zulus

    • @user-gx2iz7iw2y
      @user-gx2iz7iw2y Před 2 lety

      Вся суть англичан! Имеешь преимущество-убивай! Нет -беги!

    • @alessiodecarolis
      @alessiodecarolis Před 2 lety +1

      @@justinthebeau2590 VERY phyrric, they were repelled not only at Rorke's Drift, but also at Eshowe (where a single Gatling destroyed the horns of the impi!), and in various minor engagements, then at Ulundi they were litterally butchered by British firepower (10 deaths vs.more than 1000!). Probabilly with a more competent commander the war would've ended at Ishaldnwana, with the Zulus suing for peace after a disastrous defeat.

    • @alessiodecarolis
      @alessiodecarolis Před 2 lety

      @gary roberts feelings? For the Zulus? Ask to the others tribes of Transvaal and co. how loved were them, it wasn't a struggle for freedom, on the contrary was a clash btw empires, one from the age of iron (the Zulus), the other from early industrial age, don't forget that a LOT of natives supported the British against the Zulus, that had just invaded their lands (with many more deaths than this war)!

  • @m.otoole7501
    @m.otoole7501 Před 5 lety +63

    No wonder the British lost.
    They were all red-shirts. By Star Trek logic they had to die.

  • @kennyjones3679
    @kennyjones3679 Před 3 lety +7

    The Zulus had a special bond with the 24th of foot.In later they admired their Bravery.Fighting literally to the death.

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 Před 4 měsíci

      The so called desecration of the bodies was actually a zulu right reserved only for those who had died a brave death fitting a warrior to allow the spirit to leave the body the bodies found down fugitives drift were not desecrated

  • @shuliu4804
    @shuliu4804 Před 4 lety +12

    1:40 me and the bios getting the bloody hell out of there

  • @BrettonFerguson
    @BrettonFerguson Před 9 lety +9

    PBS: Secrets of the Dead has an episode about this battle. Based on the metal hinges and brackets found, they think many of the ammunition crates were smashed open with the buts of the rifles. They also believed the initial British lines were set to far away and the men to far apart. If they were in a small area close together, shoulder to shoulder, two or three rows deep, they would have had a better chance. Far apart they each fired one round and then tried to retreat with no cover.

  • @DASCO2136
    @DASCO2136 Před 10 lety +92

    Now imagine what would've happened if the British had three machine guns with 30,000 rounds of ammo

    • @grahammoulton3374
      @grahammoulton3374 Před 10 lety +17

      that would be over quick

    • @Dreaded88
      @Dreaded88 Před 10 lety +1

      What Song to sing while mowing down the Zulu's with a 12-Gauge Gatling Lazagna Maker!?! :D

    • @Dreaded88
      @Dreaded88 Před 10 lety +3

      All's fair in Love and War!

    • @THEFREDDYNATOR2
      @THEFREDDYNATOR2 Před 10 lety +17

      *****
      fair fucking fight? You fight to win, the only place you can fight fair is in a duel.

    • @KevlarX2
      @KevlarX2 Před 5 lety +7

      rmr1812 Nobody in war wants a fair fight.

  • @matthewmizelle7923
    @matthewmizelle7923 Před 2 lety +3

    Their over confidence got the overwhelmed just like Custer at the little big horn.

  • @tandemfandom1
    @tandemfandom1 Před 3 lety +5

    I love the effort put into getting the colours across the river

  • @albion2742
    @albion2742 Před 7 lety +61

    I am very surprised Burt Lancaster did,nt win this battle on his own, John Wayne would have.

    • @jinnymudlark1815
      @jinnymudlark1815 Před 5 lety +1

      Ha ha! Thank you - I knew that the face was familiar, and couldn't work out that cheeky smile!

    • @stevenzawacki
      @stevenzawacki Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, just like he did at the Alamo.

  • @Warhero1171
    @Warhero1171 Před 9 lety +18

    I think it would have been a whole lot more awesome if they had showed Captain Younghusband's last stand in this movie.

    • @TeamMastaPr2
      @TeamMastaPr2 Před 9 lety +5

      Younghusband, impressive name.

    • @kennyjones3679
      @kennyjones3679 Před rokem

      Yes they bayonet charged the Zulus after shaking hands.

  • @billyshane3804
    @billyshane3804 Před rokem +6

    Many Zulu warriors were named Jackie and Ronald. Their chief was affectionately known as "Big Edwin"

    • @billyshane3804
      @billyshane3804 Před rokem +2

      Well, that is most remarkable! Thanks for sharing that with everyone Billy Shane.

    • @motorbrain6349
      @motorbrain6349 Před rokem

      @@billyshane3804 bro forgot to switch accounts

  • @kennyjones3679
    @kennyjones3679 Před 3 lety +6

    Best battle scenes ever in any war film great stunts.

  • @stanleyjensen1950
    @stanleyjensen1950 Před 9 lety +36

    Battlefield forensics & archaeology support the theory that the Martini-Henry was at fault (not taking anything away from the Zulus who were amazing warriors), that, after continued use, black powder fouled the weapon and ejecting shells and loading became impossible.

    • @markburgess4949
      @markburgess4949 Před 9 lety

      Excuses excuses

    • @johnolive3425
      @johnolive3425 Před 5 lety +3

      In the US Army, the problem was the ammo as well. In the Springfield rifles, the copper case would sometimes expand and split in the chamber as it was fired, leading to a jam. It was fixed with an improved brass case, I believe.

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father Před 3 lety +6

      Gun jamming didn't cause this defeat. Poor operational planning and ISR caused this defeat.

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father Před 3 lety +6

      @@LouisE-mp8lx Is that why the Union lost the Battle of Fredericksburg? Because their guns jammed? Or was it because General Burnside was an incompetent operational planner? (Its the latter.) Same reason here. The British lost because they arrogantly underestimated their enemy; invaded an area without knowing the size or location of the enemy; then divided their force; and allowed the enemy to get within 5 miles of their base without detection.....but yes explain to me again how they lost because a few rifles jammed...

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father Před 3 lety +2

      @@LouisE-mp8lx I think you're ultimately making excuses for poor operational planning. That's my point.

  • @overopensights
    @overopensights Před 7 lety +5

    The Queen's Colour that are carried off at 5.15, resemble nothing like a an Infantry Colour. The originals were very heavily gilded wire and braid heavy clothe. When recovered some days later they were conveyed home to England where Queen Victoria placed a wreath on them. Those original colours are kept at Brecon Cathedral, and hung in fine mesh to preserve them.

  • @darrellr.bacon4677
    @darrellr.bacon4677 Před 2 lety +13

    If you pay attention in the movie Gladiator with Russel Crowe in the first part of it on the battlefield you can hear the warrior cry of the Zulus from the movie made about the same time as this one just titled ZULU. Very memoirable. I remember that movie from my childhood in the 60s and Saturday spent at the movie theaters.

    • @alexpaulyoungthemuso3937
      @alexpaulyoungthemuso3937 Před rokem

      Zulu was filmed in 1963 I believe

    • @ste123456754
      @ste123456754 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@alexpaulyoungthemuso3937 no 1964

    • @alexpaulyoungthemuso3937
      @alexpaulyoungthemuso3937 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ste123456754 I said believe because I know the movie came out in 64
      I don't know the date so I assumed they filmed it a year prior

    • @ste123456754
      @ste123456754 Před 11 měsíci

      @Alex Paul Young the Muso yes your probably right as it was first shown 22 Jan 1964👍

    • @richardsavino3612
      @richardsavino3612 Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly. Sub Urban myth. 2 totally different timelines. Crowe wasnt even born in 64. Jeez yous guys.

  • @christopherrodriguez9448

    Zulu dawn is a very exciting film;Interesting from beginning to end.Action packed. - Excellent 19th century Battle recreated Warfare scenes;Super great effective Military Film! Always a Ball and a Blast to enjoy watching.

  • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
    @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Před 7 lety +40

    8:09 Gotta love the last stand there, banding together, low on ammunition and still held their own against the masses of Zulus

    • @ImperialistRunningDo
      @ImperialistRunningDo Před 7 lety +3

      Truth is even more amazing than fiction. You might read up on the last stand of Capt. Reginald Younghusband.

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Před 7 lety +6

      ImperialistRunningDo I have, shame it wasn't included in the film, 60 of them bayonet charged straight down at the Zulus

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Před 7 lety +5

      LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH If Chelmsfords dispatched force had been at Isandhlwana i reckon they may well have won the battle.

    • @Alte.Kameraden
      @Alte.Kameraden Před 7 lety +3

      I remember when Custer's Last Stand was heroified like that for over a century. Then forensic team came in some time in the 2000s and found out it was more like a last route. Though opinion of the battle already started to change before that which lead to the investigation to begin with. Which is a pity, I remember reading an article of a writer who interviewed the native Americans on the battle, and he wrote a book on their accounts of the battle, it completely contradicted contemporary American History of The Little Bighorn, so much so it ended up ruining the man's career. I so badly wish I could find that article so i can find the name of the writer and the book. As it's a perfect example of how an amateur historian can be more right than the majority of historians. Similar to the discovery of the grave of King Richard.

    • @Alte.Kameraden
      @Alte.Kameraden Před 7 lety

      LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH Ya, but I was referring to most of the little details. I honestly doubt the Zulu themselves kept very accurate accounts on specific parts of the battle. Definitely being so many of them later died, so you get a huge vacuum of information from both sides because of the casualties.
      Little Big Horn the Native casualties were very light, even the women partook in the after battle. So there is a mountain of information from the Native side of that story.
      It is obvious because of the Zulu Casualties that the British stood their ground. It's just thoe smaller details, that seem to be impractical but over glorifying that often bug me on Zulu Dawn.

  • @ELViejito100
    @ELViejito100 Před 5 lety +12

    3:31 Imagine be there... Scary

  • @RandomAussie-dx9fj
    @RandomAussie-dx9fj Před 7 měsíci +1

    For some reason I am obsessed with the scene where they open the ammo crate.

  • @Max-oi4kj
    @Max-oi4kj Před rokem +2

    Зулусы молодцы, это же какое надо иметь мужество, что бы практически безоружными победить врага с огнестрельным оружием.

  • @freeman8128
    @freeman8128 Před 5 lety +27

    In that unfortunate and unnecessary conflict there were brave and mighty men on BOTH sides.
    My people were on one side, my wife's people were on the other. Today there is peace and mutual respect.

    • @dont-want-no-wrench
      @dont-want-no-wrench Před 2 lety

      so let us hope.

    • @thanhhoangnguyen4754
      @thanhhoangnguyen4754 Před 2 lety

      @@dont-want-no-wrench Only the British Empire wanted this fight. In thus case diamond is all the excuse the British Empire need to wage a war on the Zulu.

  • @davidmurray5399
    @davidmurray5399 Před 2 lety +65

    There were two flags that comprised the 'Colours". The Queens Colour and the Regimental Colour. Both were large[four by four], heavily brocaded and decorated. They were heavy and difficult for a man to carry under normal circumstances. The weight and the awkward nature of them is why Melville and Coghill were caught and killed by the Zulu's before they could get across the Buffalo drift.

    • @liverpoolscottish6430
      @liverpoolscottish6430 Před rokem +6

      WRONG. Melville and Coghill DID succeed in crossing the river into Natal. Unfortunately for them, the Zulu's had positioned a cut off group on the Natal side. That's where M & C died- with their backs against a rock formation and they are buried there.

    • @patashton1769
      @patashton1769 Před rokem

      It's "Zulus" not "Zulu's"

    • @ransomedavis2208
      @ransomedavis2208 Před rokem +4

      some people saw melville and coghill as deserters claiming they were simply making a run for it. i believe they carried out their orders untill being surrounded and murdered. i class myself as a pretty brave guy but if i was in this battle i dont know how i would have reacted the terror must have been immense.

    • @philshyu5248
      @philshyu5248 Před rokem +1

      I can never understand why it is so important to save the regimental banners in that day and age. The same goes for the Roman legionary standard. Seems like a waste of manpower to have someone be taken out of the fight due to carrying a stupid flag.

    • @stantheman5657
      @stantheman5657 Před rokem

      The British army were too dispersed and as they were forming into ranks the Zulu were constantly charging with no regard for their own personal safety.
      The Zulu were the most fearsome warriors ever to come out of 0:02 Africa.
      Also of course the British had to reload after every shot. Even if they had access to all their ammunition, without defensive formations they would probably have been overwhelmed by sheer weight of numbers.

  • @christopherrodriguez9448

    One of my very favorite military movies.Outstanding production work in recreating Islawanda,with very great accuracy.Africa is a fantastic place on Planet Earth. - Definately a land of high adventure.It's people are not just intriguing;Very often times they are fascinating truely.I believe the Human Suffering and poverty are significantly declining,Issue matters that definately have been steadily beginning to deminish.It may be,with no clear ending sight but the African people will someday both eventually see a.light at the end of the tunnel and will glorious succeed and reach the promise land.This great film from one of Africa's fantastic historic milestones -winning the battle,the battle of Islawanda proves it.

  • @Makeitso2023
    @Makeitso2023 Před rokem +4

    As the soilder said when they were in a steady firing line,bullets run out but them spears don’t:

  • @janhollon3078
    @janhollon3078 Před 5 lety +20

    I had heard that the Zulu can run 20 miles and go straight into the fight without resting first.

    • @thefoolishgmodcube2644
      @thefoolishgmodcube2644 Před 4 lety

      50*

    • @peterobbo7512
      @peterobbo7512 Před 3 lety +2

      If you send them in the wrong direction they'll be fucked after 40 miles.

    • @8b_03_akhtargyaneshwarpurw3
      @8b_03_akhtargyaneshwarpurw3 Před 2 lety +5

      I dont use burger eaters system, i use metric

    • @copferthat
      @copferthat Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, a 20 mile run was not uncommon but if any Zulu fell behind or collapsed during these runs, they were put to death. It was an astonishingly brutal society.

    • @copferthat
      @copferthat Před rokem

      @@samanth. I refer you to the bible of Zulu society, The washing of the Spears, by Donald R Morris