A Vacheron Constantin Overseas for Half Price? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- When Audemars Piguet released the Royal Oak in 1972, everyone thought the watchmaker had gone mad. The watch was big, it was basic and it was expensive-and it sold by the bucket load. Patek Philippe got in on the action four years later with the Nautilus, and not wanting to be left out, Vacheron Constantin joined the club a year later, completing the 70s trifecta of steel sports watches from the top three. Today, such a watch will set you back from £17,000 and as much as £23,000-but is there something we’re missing that’s just as good for half the price?
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Vacheron has the best sounding name in the industry.
And make the best looking sports watch
David Yule debatable but lets say top 3 ;)
Vagi rone con stan teen
try "rolex"
Hello Kitty watch.
I purchased a 42mm about a month ago. Fantastic and exceed all my expectations. Finishing is amazing on the case and movement. Bracelet wears like silk. A great luxury high end sports watch
The Laureato is very underrated , it is an amazing watch and for the money you pay for it you will get a great value. It looks amazing on the wrist and the movement is flawless. However GP needs to do more to boost their name among the younger generation
No. We don't want GP to get out there.
Is kind of a copy
@@adamleon8504 Every idea is copied from other ideas
can somebody to do comparison with all of them in one place one video? AP, GP, PP, VC, Chopard, IWC and B&R........ PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love both of these watches, and I love that the Overseas is you choice to represent the Holy Trinity sport watches.
In this comparison I feel the VC holds its own, thanks in part to clever design details, like the quick change strap system, and the Geneva Seal. These add up to make the VC worth it’s money.
If we compared the Laureato to a Royal Oak, however, none of those apply anymore, so I’d take the cheaper Laureato every time.
I might be slightly biased though, as it has my initials on the dial...
Agreed. VC Overseas is the only piece there with Geneva Seal.
I think it shouldn't be viewed as a rip off of the royal oak but more of a design trend during that era for steel watches. Just like how rock music is different in the 70s with Hendrix, Led Zeppelin etc from the current scene or how German minimalist design of the pilot watch is common across the likes of Stowa, IWC, Wempe and a.lange.
I thought the GP is a refreshing deiviation from the royal oak which I see on almost every banker's wrist and the overhyped waiting list of the nautilus.
Good review, but you're ignoring a key point: The VC is so much more handsome.
I'd think so , too.......
that's why we pay the money for it.........
I’m genuinely curious why you find it attractive? The VC looks like a generic watch you could find anywhere. You could get a fossil watch or any street special that looks like it. No interesting bezel, lame dial, cheap looking bracelet...where is the cost justified and why would anyone want such a boring timepiece?
@@depthcharge126 100% agree. VC looks like a Rolex day just with regular basel.
@@depthcharge126
They are both attractive Generic does not mean unattractive.
@@depthcharge126 I see you've never handled these in person...the bezel is unique, I've love to see another watch with a bezel like it. The blue in the dial is insanely deep in hand. The bracelet construction and detachment mechanism is rarely seen in watches of this calibre. Never judge a product, especially a watch imo, before handling it. The Laureato, in contrast, is starkly boring in person.
Although, fair point, it's really hard to truly justify the cost of any luxury watch, much less one that costs nearly $20k
I bought a Laureato Chrono 42mm recently. This is my first GP, i must say it is fantastic. Having own a sub date and batman, imo, GP beats them straight off. The winding in the GP is out of the world, smooth and with confidence, The quality is comparable with Patek.
If GP removed the applied logo at 12 to replace it with a more adequate index, it would look much more balanced and less... tacky. The rest of the watch looks great
Outstanding review as always and it’s good to bring more attention to the underrated Laureato. If I didn’t get my AP15400 for retail price and/or had to be on a long waitlist I would consider this as a viable alternative.
For me its the GP 1966, a re-issue of a classic and not an AP imitator.
Just 8,100£ 😂just, JUST!
For what it delivers, yeah, it's a good value for money. Or would you rather pay 60k on a used Nautilus?
You can get it new for around £5k easily enough
FatSamEIE from where I’m interested in. Thx
It’s my wife that’s the problem. I would gladly spend $10 grand on a watch, but she would kick my ass, if I did.
I saw a couple of these second hand here in Tokyo at even lower prices
Laureato is a good call but I cant shake the feeling that everytime you look at it you'll be thinking about another watch
Precisely why whilst I respect all of these watches they are nowhere on my list to actually buy.
...i agree but would pick Laureato as preferred over AP, for reasons discussed, and as my fave GG design, though blame him for cookie-cutter design ethos...compromised by easy money ? i have to believe he was...
I love the GP Loriato chronograph better than any of the other 3 brands have to offer
If you own a VC Overseas Blue dial as seen in this video, it’s value would have gone up easily 50% due to small production capacity of VC as most VC time pieces have to meet the quality of Geneva Hallmark. On the flip side, the GP’s value would have easily knocked down 50% if you purchase it brand new. Great disparities between these two time pieces.
You could have made even more on the Patek or the AP if that is all you cared about.
@@almac9203 This video title is about “A Vacheron Constantin Overseas for half the price?”. FYI, not all AP and PP can hold its value if this is something you do not know.
@@danlin8310 The VC main rivals are the Patek Nautilus and the AP Royal Oak and they have appreciated in value far more than the VC. If the main advantage of the VC over the GP is value retention than its main rivals have done even better.
Royal Oak and Nautilus are Gerald Genta watches made by AP & Patek. Overseas & Laureato were designed in house. Rolex daytona is a league lower than all these makers, it shouldnt be mentioned.
The numbers on the rehaut doesn't line up with the dial markers on the VC...That sucks
The lume is also horribly applied.
I purchased my first luxury watch, and it just so happens to be the GP Laureato 8017 Chronograph! Well exceed my expectations
@I Thanks mate, it's one heck of a watch! I love how solid and well built our 8017s are, especially for a fraction of current mainstream sport chronographs. And your blue example is absolutely stunning, my white dial said hi!
Your saying £8,100 like its a new watch or a packet of crisps. No amount of saying its only £8,100 is going to make it worth just £8,100. It's just stainless steel, a sapphire crystal and a movement there isn't £810 worth of material in the watch.
But it's only 8 grand.......
😁
Love the Overseas, the Blue Dial is incredible..
GP drips class to me I would love to have one on my wrist at some point in my life
That GP looks absolutely stunning. Some poor quality issues with the VC, spotted with the close-up shots. For me, the best VC wristwatch is still the Fiftysix.
i love this piece its the same look as a AP, and patek philippe, and the vacheron but like you said at more then half the price.
These watches is way too expensive for my taste 🤔 £8100 wow ✌️
@@johannesstevens1929 compared to commercial offerings with huge marketing budgets, it's an amazing value even at msrp.. compared with the likes of Cartier, Rolex, IWC, Hublot, Panerai with far inferior finishing [some with outsourced pedestrian movements]. Those brands sell for more in the real world due to GP's lack of marketing/recognition which causes them to be discounted.
Have both ... and i love them both. The VC Overseas is my all time fav from all my sport watches.
Can't believe how terrible the lume fill is on that VC.
What is lume fill?
The Girard Perregaux Laureato is as beautiful and as good as the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak and the Patek Philippe Nautilus and has a lower price then them. The smart buyer will choose the GP Laureato.
The smart buyer never buys something he cannot sale for 1/2 the day after he bought it.
@@florianthomas7852 That is an investment buyer not a passionate watch buyer. Also, buying watches with the idea of generating income is the stupidest risk you could ever take.
@@florianthomas7852 have you seen the s&p recently / better put the money in tech stocks
2:38 It bums me that the top markers looks a bit off on the Nautilus :S
Seb i think it appears that way because there are two markers at the 12 position, hence the space between looks smaller.
I always thought GP should make the hobnails of the dial with a mirror-like finish to scatter reflected light in different directions. I also think they need green and red dial versions. And so many negative comments about some of their old fashioned designs. Personally, I love those classic designs. Their Vintage 1945 Series is amazing!
“Bank manger” is code for wife approval
The 42mm VCO in full SS is a perfect sports watch in every way: better looking, more legible in all lighting and tougher than an AP, more water resistance than an AP/PP AND my Rolex Explorer MK2, and it has, IMO hands down, the most beautiful and comfortable steel bracelet compared to any Rolex, AP or Patek you can name. I tried on a GP Laureato with a blue dial at the Paris CDG airport and held it next to my VCO. No competition whatsoever but that said, the GP IS far more watch than its price tag costs you. The fit and finish is astounding at this price point (about 7200€ in duty free) and the steel bracelet is smooth as a babies bottom. If a Vacheron is not in your future I wholly reccomend the Laureato which runs the same MSRP as a new Cartier Santos or Rolex Explorer (if you can find one!)
totally agree. but I think 7500 price is already in a rearview mirror ) 8000 will be a great luck)
These are om my dreamlist!!! I only recently got to know Girard-Perregaux but I loved them immediately.
The day I'll wear a Vacheron Constantine, is the day that I'll say to myself "you made it".
You can’t even spell it
@@purplefabian An 'e' at the end, big deal...
You can wear it because Vacheron constantine is a cheap Chinese copy 😂
@@purplefabian 😂😂😂
The bezel on the Laureto looks like the nut under your kitchen sink
What’s with the messy lume at 1.20?
This is one of your better videos, and I think your stuff is always well above the bar, excellent work and thanks for putting it together.
Now i only have to sell one kidney
I’d like to see a review of the Vacheron Constantin Overseas Tourbillon watch. Please.
It's a good day when watchfinder releases a new video.
GP are awesome in all respect. Kering group just needs to invest more in marketing of this.
"new companies like seiko" what? seiko is from the 1800s
End of the 1800's and I think he means new from an international point of view
Yep. Before the quartz crisis, *very* few people knew about Seiko. They were basically JDM-only. Even GS, they started to sell outside of Japan only in the late 90s.
Being sarcastic about how seiko seem new compared to GPs 1791 founding date
Love the Overseas but you’re right about what makes you smile. As I look at my Christopher Ward The Twelve in Nordic blue, it feels unreasonably close to the Overseas for a rounding error of the price. It is even a pinch smaller and thinner, with a colour matched date window at 6 o’clock. Could you be truly satisfied paying over 20X the price for a watch that is so similar on the wrist, with minor flaws and let’s be honest, a more stressful wearing experience. If you buy the Overseas, use your change to buy The Twelve, and be amazed how close they got
For a very simple reason - looks. Watches are all about the first impression and how handsome it looks. Most who buy watches nowadays don’t even know or care what’s inside or about the heritage and history of the brand. Yes GP offers great value but it honestly doesn’t look anywhere near as good as its more popular Swiss counterparts.
AP and VC are beautiful but can look a little ... nouveau on younger people.
GP Laureato is definitely a high horology and stunning watch.
Please review the Stowa, particularly the model one can get with no words on the dial. No "automatic" no "brand name" no "swiss made - (l know it's german)" no "V6" no "500 hp". I love its clean perfect dial.
overpriced as hell. for simply eta movements...
He could do a Flieger edition going from Laco, to Stowa, Wempe to IWC Mark Series and Big Pilot.
@@goodtips8973 As far as I can see, Stowa is indeed using Top Grade ETA and charges only about 1000 dollar. There are many more expensive watches with Eleboré movements inside...
Good Tips you guys with your eta bashing are hilarious, you all talk like Patek or Rolex have always been in-house.
Jenny P. The ETA bashing is hilarious.
The first of the great imitators. Then he goes on to say the ingenieur SL 🤔?! How can a watch be an imitation of another when they are both designed by the same person 🤔 The word "immitaion" here does not apply as it eludes to a lack of originality, which is hardly the case as many designers will have a synonymous design language. I'm not sure about the nautilus though, as I have read conflicting articles about who was the designer behind it, I don't think that patek has ever officially credited the design to Gerald Genta.
Mohammad Al Sharam Because when Patek and IWC hired Genta to design a watch, they wanted something to compete with his Royal Oak, which is why they hired him.
So even though they have the same designer, only the first was truely original, whereas the rest were to a design brief; namely, a steel integrated bracelet sports watch in the vein of the RO (he even gave the Ingenieur screws on the bezel), which is the same brief that the designers of the Laureato and 222 received, making them all imitators in a way.
...i call it lazy... perhaps in his own watches he shows some creativity that others find charming, but in his hired-out work he certainly seemed to use the same template again and again and again...may have left out an again...i like the GP lot and would acquire as my preference, but lazy art can not be forgiven...
3 years later, the GP is now over $10k
You are well positioned now to step over to 4K mate. For this channel and this exact kind of content, it's very much time. You can grab a good 4K DSLR for less than 700 quid on E-Bay
Great watch and value, but nothing could scratch the itch of a Royal Oak. That watch is special
There are so many watches that are better than a RO. Open your mind 😈
Brilliant. Again! On GP's old website they mentioned the GP7000 Chrono as a milestone in their history, but never said why. To me, they made more of those than they could sell and then were sold at large discounts almost everywhere. But, maybe I am missing something. Is there an interesting story to the GP7000 that you are aware of?
The top of the range longines chronograph is another maker who make a superb watch for around 3.5k. 5 year guarantee and very accurate. I certainly prefer them to Tudor and theyre Zenith Primero quality for half the price. Panerai are another great maker of gmt watches.
I absolutely love Vacheron Constantine
This is exactly why I bought one! Incredible value!
Not sure the lume on the vc is actually sloppy. Seems to be done on purpose to look a bit mother of pearl. Very often lume looks like shitty plastic. It's not the case here. The very idea of luxury is a close to perfection finish by hand instead of a perfect one by machine.
I like the GP but also for a less pricey alternative with a workhorse movement I like the Bell and Ross BR05 i think the brushed finish is very nice looking.
Omega Ingeniuer is also another Genta watch that came after the AP and before the Naitilus.
VC OS. Noticeably better up close than any Rolex.
And now the Laureato 38 is discontinued.
What a gem 💎
1:26 new companies like Seiko? (founded 1881)
Thank you
People haven't learn that for a watch over $5k+ usd without a Rolex or Omega Logo are seldom get attention from normal people seen as a high end watches. The pure 3 hands design of V.C over sea watches only for the brand that well know from the enthusiasm group.
the GP a dream come true. The VC and very good too, but the hidden and unsuspected talent remains the GP.
And GP has better quality control than VC (so much for Geneva Seal...)
Thanks for the interesting comparison!
We Fucking Love Watches .... it inqueddibull!
I love how Noone ever includes the tissot seastar ..when speaking about 70s integrated steel watches ..like the prk is not a new design.
I really wished I liked the VC. It’s great in its parts but every time I put one on, it just doesn’t wear well. I’ll stick to my 15400. Waiting to try on 5711.
That VC is beautiful....love the brand, just hope they would make more 34-36mm.
my only complaint is the thickness of VCO.
Can you do a review or JLC sector dial. I can’t seem to find many online for sale to compare and also is this a limited run watch. Maybe the classiest watch under $10,000 I’ve ever handled
For some reason, I feel like if you guys did a video on Roger Smith watches, you'd make people very happy.
If the quality is there, it doesn't matter who copied who.
To be honest looking at the macro shots the laureato doesn't come close to the overseas. The price is fair for that sort of finishing. It just looks cheaper than the Vacheron clearly
Excuse my ignorance but what are the big 3? Patek, Vacheron and? or is completely different?. great videos!
Audemars Piguet :)
@@bishoyibrahim8598 this bs title needs to stop asap. There isn't a damn thing holy about any watch brand. People are way out of pocket throwing around that word like that. Only our Father in heaven and his son, our Lord and savior are holy
My bank manager will not be happy about me buying an $8,100 watch. Who spends 8K on a watch?
Lots of ppl
Go Seiko brother. All in house.
@@tomkhong9828 I have the sarb033
dwaynejava That’s a classic in the making .
Tell your bank manager to take a hike.
The laureato of 1975 is a complete different watch compared to the current copy of AP
Everything you say makes sense and yet somehow the Laureato feels like a compromise, something you settle for because you can’t get what you really want.
This is my dilemma. I wanted to get the 15500 in blue but not a chance. I happened to notice this video and it has drawn me towards the GP. I happened to see one in Dubai and tried it on. It was so comfortable, much more so than a Rolex. Felt so good on the wrist. But I can't help thinking it's a compromise for the real thing. Or have I just been brainwashed to think that. So tempted
@@madgpol You are a fool for not going with your gut instinct, and falling for the hype and the opinions of others. Therefore GP, even though you recognize true quality, is not for you.
Out of all the watches I have handled I think the most impressive in hand has been a laureato
The wording leaves a lot to be desired "the rich wanting to show off their wealth" If someone works hard and is able to afford what they desire....why should they be stigmatised ? Should we all drive a Lada car for example ? Should we all wear a plastic Casio watch ? Surely if the choice is out there then you ought to be applauded if you can strive to get to there ?
Instead of calling for stigmatisation, you should consider what is true or not..... because it is the only thing that matters.
What if people wanna show that they are loaded? Nobody said there is anything wrong with it. In fact many people buy fake watches in that sole purpose....to show that they are loaded (while they are not).
Please review the JLC Polaris Chronograph. Love your channel!!! 😍🤩
stunning piece
Hit like if u think Girard Perregaux is underrated!
cG WenH they can produce some awesome stuff but unfortunately they produce crap that destroys their image too.
@@BobbyDazzler888 can u pls tell me what crap did they produced? I own a Vintage 1945 the looks, finishing are great..
Hugely underrated!
cG WenH you need thicker skin, are you telling me GP doesn’t have ugly models? Com’on Stan.
a vintage GP even cheaper alot than an omega.... ;))) that something lol
Vacheron Constantin y patex Philippe the best watches the wold beatifull watches
The Nautilus in Royal Oak are overpriced for what they are rather buy an annual calendar or tourbillon.
@Sam Clanon but only stuck up snobs would care.
@Sam Clanon Untrue. Frederique constant has a tourbillon for under that...
While I’m not so sure for Royal Oak money, I definitely agree with the Nautilus. They’re currently going for US$70K+, which is enough for a precious metal complication watch, like an annual calendar, or even a tourbillon (second hand), from any of the Holy Trinity. Why anyone thinks a steel Patek is worth that when you can get a complicated Patek in gold is beyond me.
Agreed but demand set the price as everyone has jumped on the bandwagon..
In terms of what it cost to make vs selling price, no comparison.
That is a good camera
I love GP, their Sea Hawk III is on my buy list and I’d certainly consider the Laureato in chronograph form at the right price! Happy for it to stay under the radar and beat the “big three” at the value for money game!
The GP was also quartz originally. The mechanic version arrived lator on
why oh why does the vacheron not have a dial matching date wheel...
Love the videos!
Just out of curiosity... What about the Rolex 5100 that came out at Baselworld 1970? Ok it's in white gold and it's a beta21, but I still think this is the model that got Genta to play his game! (He might have been behind the design of the 5100 aswell!)
Cheers!
I admit I had to google the 5100. It's beautiful !! Too bad it's quartz though...
The Maurice Lacroix Aikon is better. Gotta hold one in your hands to understand 👌🏻
Perfect as always 👍👍
Please comparison video of this GP Laureato to an AP Royal Oak.
what is your opinion on Breguet sports lineups?
I think the GP actually looks better☘
Very nice video. Do both watches have a pressure crown ?
Nice piece for sure. Overseas for me..
Why is the VC Oversees being covered by most channels as of late?
George Yang I am seeing this also. Maybe vacheron are pulling some string
Because it’s superior to the Royal Oak for the same money(ish), and on par with the now ridiculously overpriced Nautilus. As a result, many reviewers have been trying bring people’s attention to the new Overseas collection, as it was almost unknown in its release.
Here is an affordable alternative comment for "first comment"
I am looking at buying a GIRARD PERREGAUX Laureato Automatic 42mm, sick of the usual Rolex, Omega etc timepieces. Any thoughts on this?
The Bearded Yorkshireman Well as this video pointed out, the Laureato is an excellent watch that competes (or is at least in the ballpark) with high horology sports watches, for only slightly more than Rolex (the same second hand), yet much less than the Holy Trinity.
They’re objectively good timepieces that you wouldn’t be disappointed in (unless you have your heart set on the AP RO or VC Overseas and you’re settling for the GP, but it sounds like you wouldn’t be doing that).
Sounds like so much Yorkshire BS actually (you asked for thoughts) but we still like you :+)
A genuine watch enthusiast knows about GP and their Laureato...
The main difference, the VC, looks very prestigious. And the AP and the Nautilus. Seems like cheap horror.with out the name, Can't believe anyone would buy them
where can we see or buy VC in USA?
Can't really find a store to check it out in San Jose
Can't really go at the moment, but CH Premier Jewelers in Stanford Shopping Center has a Vacheron. They also have GP. The difference is night and day between the two.
I think you misspelled Zenit Defy Classic haha
Battle of giants… honestly i don’t know which one of the two has more prestige or quality but Vacheron is my choice. However also GP is at the top of watchmakers.