Lenovo ThinkPad Showdown X201-X220-X230-240
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- In today's showdown, everyone is a winner really. You can't go wrong with these machines but some might be heavier lifters than others.
Let me know in the comments which you would choose and why.
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I use my X230 every single day, absolutely love the machine. Mine was 6 years old when purchased as "factory refurbished" but was super clean and a bargain at $220. Great video!
That's how I feel about my X220.
I bought a Thinkpad X220 Tablet, Upgraded it with a 120gb SSD, 256gb SATA III card, 16gb of RAM, It already had the faster WIFI card and an IPS display I paid 219.00 with free shipping and it is a beautiful little laptop. Runs the same or in most cases better than most of the newer machines, and yes it's an i7 with 2 cores and 4 threads. This Lenovo is a beast of a laptop. Typing on it right now. LOVE IT!!!
That is a beast. Pretty much has all the upgrades I'd want to do.
Do you have names or links to that your wifi card and display? What is the resolution?
The IPS Display is 1366/768 and the WIFI card is a N6300, both can be found on EBAY or Amazon....ect. Mostly EBAY for very reasonable prices.
Just do a search and you'll find them1
What about battery life, I am looking for x220 or x240 and I was wondering what will happen with the battery life after such upgrade (or even without doing anything)
It's an interesting situation because if you get the x220 there is a lot upgrade and the battery can only be so big. It's also using a power heavier CPU. The x240 on the other hand uses an Ultrabook low-wattage CPU and has a dual battery system. You will get more performance and more upgradability out of an x220 however if battery life is your primary concern the x240 stands alone in that regard.
I bought x230 a year ago after watching this video, upgraded to 8gb with SSD and it works flawlessly, thank your very much !
Thanks so much for letting me know! I'm glad to hear it is working hard for you.
Is it possible to change the cpu as well? Or is it soldered?
X230 is soldered.
I've got a nice story about the x201 as well :) my x201 has been halfway submerged in seawater 6 years ago. back then i took it apart, rinsed the components with tapwater and let them dry for two days, after that, put it together and it has been working ever since. Nice detail: today i went back to the x201 because my x250 died of a little bit of moisture:(
Wow. That's not something you hear everyday. What a tank.
Something else to consider. If you can get an X201 for a good price unless you are doing something that requires a seriously high powered CPU or over 8 GBs of RAM it is still a good option. People often forget that the Express Card slot gives you alot of flexibility. For 20 or 30 dollars you can get Express card adapters that will allow you to add anything from a vintage serial port to full size Firewire and even USB 3.
Very true, it does depend on your needs.
one of the best channel for laptop guides.. thankyou brother for the uploads...
Thanks for the kind words Rameez. I hope to get to work on some new stuff soon.
Love your videos your intro is inspiring me dood this is the exact video I needed
had a x240 just sold it looking for something better and I really appreciate it.
Thanks for the kind words. It is an amazing feeling machine, I undersold that. If you find one intact, it is great, but repair costs are steeper.
Thank you. The X2 range is a fantastic class of machine and this quick comparison is much appreciated.
You're most welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
@@LaptopRetrospective how about thinkpab T400 ?!
Haven't had any time with one yet.
@@LaptopRetrospective yes, i love it because it has a best keyboard
Thanks for the retrospective! waiting for the T's.
If I get the chance I certainly will. Having the machines around at the same time might be tricky.
I got an i5 x220 with 8gb ram and 160gb ssd a few years back which was absolutely mint condition. The keyboard is such a pleasure to type with. I love it. I just installed an ips panel and upgraded to Windows 10. Dream laptop. 👌
Nice upgrades!
I bought a refurbed X201 5 years ago with a 2010 manufacture date that I use for personal use and it is still going strong. I must have gotten one that hardly saw any use or the whole outer case and keyboard was replaced as it looked like new.
For work, my company issued me a brand new X230 in 2013. The X230 worked great for two years then it suddenly started cutting out without warning as if someone pulled out the battery, I was told that this is an issue with the thermal paste. At first it would happen only occasionally, but after a few months the frequency increased to where it was occurring several times a day. I had it exchanged for another X230 that after a year started doing the same thing. I then exchanged it again, that one was in the early stages of cutting out about once a week when I was issued a new Lenovo Yoga in 2016 which I still have with no issues.
As for the X201, I am about to upgrade it to Windows 10 and replace the battery. If that goes well and it still performs okay, I will swap the HD for an SSD. To me the X201 always felt more solid than the X230.
I can confirm that feeling. The SSD upgrade should really be done. You won't regret it.
I just commented on your X201 video, thanks for the videos!
Saw that! Hope you enjoy some of my other ThinkPad videos and the stories behind them.
So much awesome in that stack of ThinkPads....great video my friend! Nice to see the side by side comparo.
Couldn't resist. It was a great opportunity.
@@LaptopRetrospective I absolutely love the aesthetic had by the x201, however it's age does make it less attractive. Still, all of these are beautiful machines.
Agreed. Love the ruggedness of it. Hammer nails and fills spreadsheets.
Dude, im spanish, Im in LOVE with your perfect english! THX for this great video...
Thanks for the kind words!
Love your channel,
Please review X230 convertible
Its also favorite
If one ever shows up, I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoy the videos!
I have a x230 and have been using it for 3 years, it is very tough and good, a very smart laptop for daily use and work, and supports the latest windows 10
I've been using an X220 around the house since 2018. 👍
Nice review. I've got an X201 tablet and an X230 (and a T410, T420, T430 and T530). "30" was a good year for Thinkpads. I plan to keep the X230 until it dies, great machine. But I actually prefer the keyboard on the X201 to the X230.
I can understand the keyboard preference. It felt rock solid. Nice collection btw.
Look at those beautiful machine! Nice video
Thanks!
Helpful video. Thanks.
You're welcome!
I got the x200s, its like the x200 but thinner, lighter and with an ultra low voltage cpu, its amazing how much it can still do without issue.
Yeah they are neat computers. Haven't seen the s variant in person yet.
The keyboard in xx30 series was even considerable because keys were bigger then xx40 and laptops that came after that
I have just became an owner of used X240. I am positivly suprised by battery life and overall response. Compact dimensions. Very happy even that I am using it only one day (just writing comment from it)
That's awesome! If you like thin and light machines check out the X1 Carbon 3rd Gen video I just released.
Been waiting for this ;) Woooo
Probably older than what you're used to dealing with but maybe helpful material for research?
Laptop Retrospective Not every wants to spend big cash on laptops and if their needs are basic. Better to get one of these than a bloody ChromeBook 👊
Too right on the Chromebook thing. If anyone wants a Chromebook recommendation, send them my way to learn about a ThinkPad.
made me remember that x201 been accompany me for a long time, although now im not use it anymore... still have it mint complete with the box and everything else... THINKPAD is BLOODY hell lol
Very cool that you have all the original stuff.
Whelp, that intro was downright epic.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for your video.. im actually looking on all the choices you've mentioned.. i really like the x230 with the x220 keyboard. But the major problem is, i am not familiar with how to setup the system in order to change the keyboard ( X220 to X230) . if you have a step by step instruction, i would really appriciate it if you can share it with me.
See my x230 video in the description.
Back in 2016 I bought a used X201 for about $250 with i7 M620 and 320 GB HDD, later upgraded to 120GB SSD and 4GB --> 6GB RAM. Still usable for basic everyday tasks, but it would defenietly be an outdated machine without an SSD. Back then I wouldn't have thought that it would work even nowdays.
That SSD makes all the difference.
I love my X220 but might look into a project X240 for a sibling now.
Not a bad choice. X250 is nice too.
I just bought the x250. It feels awesome on which to type.
Awesome, I hope you enjoy it.
watching this in 2022 on my daily x220. it's upgradable and serviceable. but if I have to choose I'll go for the x230 for the better specs and usb3 ports.
Fair points.
Love the retro track music
Thanks!
Well i ordered another x230t (it came today). So far this one was actually packaged properly and even came with everything the last one didn't (battery, charger, and pen). Have to say it was well worth the extra money this time around
So glad to hear you got a good one.
It kinda runs warm but so far so good
Not surprised. If it's too high it might need a repaste.
Things to consider
Yea my x230 great specs & great price! The best quality! Dock station ssd & big monitor brilliant! In future upgrade extended gpu express card! Greeting from Poland!
Eager to hear how that GPU will go.
Ja też Cie greeting 👍
@UltimateGame Def something I want to try, but that is something I need to save for to justify :D
Roger that. Let me know if you have recommended sellers or market places.
@@LaptopRetrospective the x240 have the expresscard slot?
Still got a working X200 lying around as a backup :)
Nice!
Very nice. Have experimented with libre, how is it?
I love my x230 - upgraded to 1080p ips display and personally much prefer the backlit chiclet keyboard. I don't like the x240 as it has that internal battery, as once its dead it becomes basically dead weight and will most likely be much more difficult to replace.
Internal batteries aren't too difficult to source. Yet anyway. IPS upgrade is nice though!
HI and thank you for that wonderful presentation, I am Contemplating Purchasing one of these models my question is do any of these have webcams as I particularly want one with a Shutter to cover the lens, I know I could stick something over the camera but I don;t mind spending the extra cash to do it right Thank you
Hey there. If you want a built in Think Shutter model you'll need to go with the x280 I think. Maybe the X270.
I had x201, it was great, I used that x201 with
SSD 128 and 8gb of RAM and believe me that was running very fast but heat is the big issue here.
Now I replace it by x220 today. I'm sure it will perform great but I know heat would be the issue.
I was using Visual Studio 2015 never close never not responding.
Awesome. Glad to hear these machines live again.
Nice review!
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. It's weird to know others have the same inexplicable thinkpad obsession I have. The opening song was a bonus too. What is the exact name of the LittleRobot track?
Next time I'm near my PC I'll look it up for you!
@@LaptopRetrospective awesome, please dont forget...maybe 50 of your plays have been me getting my fix of the opening song.
Haha, cheers! If I do forget, reply back. Don't let me get away with it.
Jimmy Fontanez is your composer, Dub_Hub is the track name.
@@LaptopRetrospective whoa! Somehow I missed this, i was coming back to nag you! Thanks...will look for it
HI, the x220 has USB 3 as well, if you have the i7 Model :)
That unit was a little monster! i7+16Gb ram+ssd+expended battery, man that thing still beats lots laptop today.
True but it's only one and the i7 models aren't as common.
Nice setup.
@@LaptopRetrospective You are absolutely right! But i have the luck that my company has many of them ;D And i am the IT Guy ;D
I hope your luck never runs out then. 😁
Hi there. First of all tahnk you for this video. Since little over a year my only and daily driver is a Lenovo Thinkpad x230. Upgraded to 16 GB of Ram with a Samsung EVO 860 250 GB SSD.
I also bought a Docking Station and using this machine with 2 external Monitors including internal display to make Websites.
Would you also recommend the 430 series machines???
T430 is a fine unit! You should find it on the channel as well.
You should talk about the ThinkPad X___t series of 2-in-1 laptops! I have the X220t running Windows 11.
I've featured quite a few and have another lined up on the channel.
You can have usb 3.0 on every laptop if there is an expresscard slot. A usb 3.0 express card is 10-15$
True!
Thx for your video. My X201i5, X201ti7, and X220ti5 with upgraded 240G SSD and 8GB ram are still working very well. I still prefer the old keyboard. Tons of spares and parts are still available and in lower prices. I look forward to using them for another decade.^^ Chen from Taiwan (Formosa).
Glad you enjoyed it. Also great to hear you are still using so many of these machines. Have any pictures?
@@LaptopRetrospective Can I upload the pics here? No idea how to do that. I still keep my X201t and X220t in a relatively good cosmetic condition. ^^
Imgur would work. 😀
@Laptop Retrospective naomimini.imgur.com/all/ I got them here. ^^
Thanks! I'll take a look soon.
You can get USB3.0 in the older thinkpads with a express card adapter. That'd be a cool topic for a video, a comparison between different usb3.0 express cards in the market and benchmarks against USB3.0 native laptops like the x230/x240.
It would be, but I'm not well versed in Express cards. Have any suggestions?
@@LaptopRetrospective I haven't used any, just look in Ebay for cards, there are a few different types. They're all around $5 to $15
Do you know off the top of your head which size fits the 220?
@@LaptopRetrospective The X220/X230 have a 54mm slot, the T420 have a 34mm slot
I have one of these in my x220 but honestly never got around to using it.
My X200 gave up the spirit 1 week ago. I've been using it almost daily since 2009.
Sorry to hear that. Going to try fixing it or looking to move on?
I'll probably buy a newer model from the same series, I would have done so sooner or later. Excellent laptop, well worth the extra money.
I opted for an USB 3.0 equipped X220, you have to look for an i7 model, the i5 ones only had 2.0.
Correct!
I have the i7 Tablet version of the X201 and I love it. It is probably the most versatile laptop I have. The only "issue" I have is having to fiddle with some of my applications because they assume everyone has a 16:9 monitor and get confused by the 4:3 aspect ratio.
Good point, those taller ratios are great for productivity.
You mean 16:10 ratio (1280x800), not 4:3.
I love the IPS display on the X201 Tablet. Too bad it is so much bigger than the non-tablet X201.
@@herrfaust2020 It is actually not much bigger. The stated screen resolution gives that impression but the footprint was like a miniature version of the old IBM R51 I used to have. It is definitely not a widescreen. Apparently the aspect ratio was 8:5 but in terms of usable real estate and shape it was far closer to the older IBM models. The screen is only 12.1 inches so I am not sure what you mean by bigger.
@UCGmHJmzmA38lQGCfCyCmwBg I own one. Turns out 8:5 and 16:10 are the same thing. But to call it widescreen is a stretch. Sure it is a rectangle but it is still closer to the older aspect ratio. 16:10 is more square anyway which is why it is somewhere in between. But on a 12 inch screen there is no way that involves a serious size difference. Maybe if we were talking a 17 inch. I also have an old Apple 23 inch Studio display which is 16:10 and sure at that point it gets a bit crazy. lol My point is all the X200 series had 12 displays regardless of aspect ration so I am kind of confused why you think the X201T is so much bigger.
@@certs743 , the body and battery of the X201T is much deeper than an X201. Like you said, the footprint of an X201T is like a 4:3/5:4 ThinkPad (squarish), whereas the X201 is more rectangular.
8:5 ratio is the same as 16:10. It is considered widescreen.
yeah i’m still rocking a little old x201, and with some tweaks, it is actually pretty good
What tweaks?
fan control software, unlocked bios so I can put any wifi card, replaced thermal paste and ssd
Nice choices.
thank you :D btw, superb video
Thanks, glad you like it!
The X200 has a card reader in the front lip underneath the palm rest
Correct!
Starting my journey from X200, then X201t to experience pen mode. Jumped to X240 due to spec over X220 or keyboard of X230, and immediately upgrade to X250 for "we all know why" reason. Very happy with it since the performance is great and VGA port is very crucial. IMHO, X200 with current spec is the ultimate working machine :)
Nice collection and I also miss the trackpad buttons. 😉
i have an x230 i5 for 8 years and use it on a daily base for work and private. my upgrades are 8gig ram, msata boot drive, linuxmint19.3 since win7 discontiued, and a big battery.
my keyboard and mousepad are the glossy type (wear) and i'm always thinking to look for a newer model.
but what real advantage wold that offer? i think the best is to get a new keyboard, mousepad and a big ssd and that's it. no demand for more speed.
thanks for the video.
You're most welcome. The X230 is a well loved machine for good reason.
Still rockin my i7-2640m X220, it's blazing fast (it runs a bit hot tho), its IPS screen is great and it's a very capable, sturdy and chunky machine, that's also super easy to service and upgrade!
Lucky you with an IPS display. Is it factory or aftermarket?
@@LaptopRetrospective It's the factory one! And it's fully loaded from the factory with the 9 cell battery, 4G, the faster WiFi card Lenovo offered at the time (the Centrino Ultimate-N), 4GB of RAM (later upgraded to 8GB) and the 90W power supply; but the hard drive was missing so I added a 250GB SSD.
It's a second hand machine and I managed to snatch it up for 120€ so I'm quite happy with it! I don't even want to know how much the original owner spent on this configuration at the time, it was certaintly not cheap! xD
No, I imagine you are absolutely correct. Great find!
What I would like to know is, if it is possible to use (8 Synaptics) to configure the touchpad and trackpoint? Since I love my x220 and I bought a t480 and in SYNAPTICS in advanced or general options there are not many options to configure like the x220?
On the other hand, the t480's keyboard, touchpad and trackpoint buttons suck!
Great video! Please, I'm thinking of buying my first Lenovo ThinkPad. Do I go for Lenovo ThinkPad E490 or E590 or the "newer" Lenovo ThinkPad E14 or E15? What do you suggest? I will appreciate your kind suggestion. Thanks :)
If you can, go with a T or X series model. They are better built.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I can't afford the T or X series. That's why I seek your suggestion on the E series.
I'd sooner buy a used or older T or X than a few E series.
@@LaptopRetrospective Okay. Thanks :)
What’s the x230 keyboard hack? The chiclet keyboards are my only misgiving about later TPs.
Lots of videos and documentation out there. Tripcode did a swap recently on their channel.
Watching this in 2021. Still relevant and interesting. Thanks from the future and let's skip the recent Xs
Thanks so much! I try to make content that remains relevant.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks to you and keep up the great work.
Will do. If you're a ThinkPad fan, you might not want to miss tomorrow's video.
@@LaptopRetrospective Old enough to own IBMs. Just subbed so will watch.
Appreciate the support. If you are familiar with the IBM era machines then tomorrow night interest you even more. I've teased it on the community page as well as on Twitter.
I can't tell if the Australian market is just totally different to the US one but all the X220's I see are like $500AUD ($350USD). It doesn't seem we have nearly as good a used market with them as you guys.
I can't speak to the US market but pricing and availability is very regional.
Great vídeo,
Thanks Eli!
lol nice intro :) You may actually have more thinkpads than me.. at least in your house. I have a T510 / T520 / T400 / T410 / T420 / T430 / T450 / X201 / X220 / X230 / x61 / T60 / T61 / L440
Glad you like the intro. You have me beat since these are loaners.
Do you collect them? I really don't see the point otherwise.
That's awesome. Congrats.
I bought an x201about six years ago used. A year after I bought it, I spilled milk into the keyboard, so I rinsed it out in the sink. After a full disassembly, a few days to dry, and a new keyboard, it soldiered on for 4 more years. At some point, I added a 100 GB SSD upped the RAM to 6 gb. My desktop is where I store most everything, so the storage sin't an issue. When it finally died, I replaced it with.... An x201 Tablet. Paid $70 for the new used machine with no RAM/HDD, which I pulled from the old one. Helps to be a Linux guy, but that thing is a fantastic machine for my use case, and for the $70 that I paid for it.
That's awesome. Glad you are keeping these machines maintained and given them work to do.
Thinkpad + Linux = Happy PC; Happy User! I know
Thinkpad T410 and Netrunner Linux on this side also. Laptop and user are both Loving Life.
watching this on my x201, works great yet cant wait to get an x230 with the x220 keyboard.
I am really thinking of purchasing the x230. I love the thinklight, backlight keyboard, and the fingerprint features. The prices range between 130 and 165 on ebay. Ultimately I want to run windows 7 and 10 on it. To do that now in 2020, Ill have to upgrade the Wifi module to a Intel 7260 or newer card. But will it actually work for Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity? What do you think? Thanks!
You'll need to remove the whitelist from the BIOS using ivyrain but it should be possible.
@@LaptopRetrospective I bought the 15.6" Version. I had no idea there was a size bigger than 12.5"?? :0 It has small damage on one of the corners (this does not affect any functions), other than that and a missing ac adapter (OEM $9 from ebay), and hard drive ( I bought a 256gb SSD for $26), I bought the laptop for $80!!! I am so stocked. The only thing is that I am not too familiar with the whitelist thing so I may surrender to a usb bluetooth/wifi dongle to make my life easier. After all, the X230 is replacing my ASUS ROG G703 powerhouse and can work with Windows 7! Thanks for your help and I love your videos!!!
If it's 15.5" then it's not an X230. It might be a T530 if it's the same generation. It will literally say on the display bezel. Glad you're happy with it regardless.
@@LaptopRetrospective Wait what? It might be a fake? Hmmm I looked at the bezel from the picture of the purchase and I think it says X230. I provided a link to the purchased Item below if you like to confirm. www.ebay.com/itm/LENOVO-15-6-THINKPAD-X230-I5-3320M-2-60GHz-4GB-NO-HDD-NO-CADDY-NO-OS-9087/283974492452?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
That's an X230 alright but you're not getting a 15" laptop, that part of the listing isn't correct.
Laptop Retrospective 1) Is it possible to mod the X240 with the X220 keyboard? 2) Is it possible to CoreBoot or LibreBoot the X240 and remove it's IME, for a completely Free system?
~ Thanks for all you do !!!
Sadly, I think the answer to both is no.
Hey, hope you are doing well!
Well i am late, but i want to know is it still worth to buy x230?
And to which extent one can upgrade it?
Thanks!
Depends on your needs. You can upgrade a fair bit just not the CPU.
I just bought x240 with 8gb ram and 180 SSD, I really like it, I installed windows 10 and 2 linux OS (triple boot), it all runs very fast! and the big advantage of this laptop is its small and light, even lighter than my retina macbook pro. The only thing I dont like is just the TN display
Very nice. Which two distros?
@@LaptopRetrospective manjaro and fedora, thank you
Cheers. Thanks for sharing your favs.
X201 is my favorite, the display was terrible but it wasnt as streamlined and boring as the X220/X230 series.
Definitely has some design quirks.
They can be modified to fit an AFFS display (similar to IPS) which is a huge step up from the original TN panel.
True. X201 has many of those green lamps which make it look retro but at the same time they're very useful. On X220 there are only three on front, and the Sleep/Battery is on back so you always have to check its back for battery status when in some terminal OS or a full screen application. X220 also lacks the hinges which I like.
Got the x230 with the i7 and 8gb of ram refurbished almost 2 years ago. Added a 1 tb ssd. Now it's almost ten years old and still going strong. I think it will still last a long time. It can even handle some light gaming quite well! However I can't really reccomend it for video editing. Perhaps I'm using the wrong software, but its just so damn slow when editing videos. Its practically better to edit them on my phone.
CPUs of that era and type weren't built with it in mind. Modern CPU's handle it much better as more people are using their computer for that kind of work.
I really want to have x250
unlocked card and things... bridge battery... what not to love?
X250 went back to the dedicated buttons for the trackpad didn't they?
@@LaptopRetrospective and the last one with unsoldered ram!!! (if you purchase extra ram on x260 they will solder it)
I wanna get X250 on it's 5th birthday,
"There is only one ram slot available but you can purchase aditional ram which would be soldered on the motherboard so maximum can be 32GB." - hpemikoc on reddit
www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/6xarc4/x260_ram_clarification/
So some is on board and then they have one expansion slot right?
@@LaptopRetrospective exactly!! Talking about reparability
So I have a burning and time sesitive question. I currently use an x210 with 6gb ram. I want to upgrade a bit. My x210 has seen better days. My x210 has an i7 (first gen,,,) The x230 that I plan to upgrade to will have the RAM from the old machine etc. But the x230 has an i5 (3rd gen.) Are they just about equivellent? Would the newer i5 architecture be faster than the older i7.
I'd suggest CPU Benchmark to compare the two CPUs side by side. Great website.
I have a ThinkPad X230. It's amazing!
They are a favoured machine to be sure.
They are also one of the best supported laptops for BSD wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops
Crazy the things you can do with them.
The x230 _tablet_ has a full size display port... And all USB ports are 3.0 😄
Interesting. Looks like the tablet was better equipped.
Show us their asses! Do all of them have a connector for a docking station?
I got a x201t, the tablet version where you can turn the lid. With docking station, it has plenty of USB-ports, external keyboard and mouse, big monitor. I only seldomly take it pure for travelling, but it is a big advantage over a stationary PC or a Laptop with a couple of USB-HUBs.
The painting possibility was a nice to have, but mostly for experiencing, that sketching on paper and scanning is almost always more convenient for me.
All have docking connectors but they are not all compatible with each dock. For example, the x240 uses a different dock. I've got a T model coming to the channel soon. 😉
Don't these all have a Docking Station? My X201 with Dock is a Beast!I run Ubuntu Linux 16:04 LTS. It is my GO-TO when my Desktop is down.
I can make it a Desk Top vt attaching Keyboard, Mouse & Monitor.
Only one stick of memory, tho; it it so old, I have had it since 2015,
Have you ever swapped the HDD for a SSD in any of these?
Got mSATA in my x220. I also have a dock for it.
Hello.. What do you think about the x270?
Haven't featured one yet. Hope to one day soon.
Why is there a lot of complaints about the X220 feeling hot/heating?
Old paste on the CPU? Fans wearing out?
Man, I'm thinking about getting the x201, but I'm afraid it's too small. My purpose is to use it on college to code. What do you think?
Size is personal preference so that's entirely your call.
Damn that quality lol
nice channel :)
Thank you very much!
my sound on my x220 is very low I have to use earbuds to hear can I turn up the sound or is there a speaker adapter I could buy.
The X220 doesn't have loud speakers. People modded in speakers from an old Nexus phone but beyond that a plug in or Bluetooth solution is best.
The old keyboard is probably the only reason I'd still opt for the X220 myself, otherwise I'd pick at least the X230 if I hadn't the X240 already.
The shared jack for microphone and headphones is a bit annoying but same can be said about the T420 that I also own and honestly... I don't care too much as I barely use a mic anyway.
This reminds me I still need to upgrade my X240 to 8G RAM and increase disk space, lol.
Sounds like a project in the making.
The X230 can be modified very easily to fit an X220 keyboard. In fact, if you get a X220 palmrest to replace the X230 palmrest then the X220 keyboard becomes a drop-in replacement.
@@SebisRandomTech That's quite helpful input there!
Just... isn't there still that cable mod that needs to be done to the connector unless one wants a fried ThinkPad?
Yep, link should be in the description on how to.
On the x230 video.
@Laptop Retrospective Your videos are very informative and useful .I hope to purchase a X230 and upgrade it to 16 GB RAM , SSD etc . I do like to know if 1) Can i attach a USB wifi dongle ( 802.11 ac with 2.4 and 5 Ghz frequencies to it without any changes to BIOS ? 2) attach an external keyboard and monitor without changing bios ? 3) use a 95 W charger made for X220 ?
Thanks for the kind words! The answer to all three of your questions should be yes. It sounds like you are planning some desktop use, if so, seek out a Dock. They are found used for cheap prices and the x230 still has the dock connector on the bottom.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks for the prompt reply.Your channel is going to be a favorite of mine !
@@dmjohn6695 No problem. I hope to hear from you again!
i got an x201 for about £45 and got to say its nice. though getting lenovo drivers for wndows 10 has been tricky
Linux that baby.
@@LaptopRetrospectivewindows is a must for most things I do. But i'll dabble with Linux. Duel boot maybe is a plan
@@LaptopRetrospective alas i need windows for a fair amount of what i do at work. but this is a 'tinker' machine for me, so ether i'll swap drive and play linux (Kalli i think this time) or set up a duel boot.
already got it up to windows 10, but found that lenovo dont support it on 10. so now scratching my head to work out why the think light wont turn on.
I hear what you're saying. It is worth a shot.
@@LaptopRetrospective Ooo, and I got a dock with it! I'll tweet you some images if you are that interested
Hi, I want to ask, can you install a 2nd ssd or hhd on the x230?
You can use the standard drive bay and install an mSATA drive.
Correct.
I'm still using a X201, with a SSD disk. First with a crunchbang linux and now with an archlinux with i3wm. Super combination, less as 4seg boot time, only the display is not so good. Using it to write this.
Glad to hear it is still usable. 👍
@@LaptopRetrospective and the i3 is ideal for the trackpoint, btw.
I love my X201 and several X201 tablets. Mechanical keyboard and status lights below the screen, the IBM design. All have 8gb and SSD, real little rocketships. Have docking stations too, 2nd SSD and the other with a Bluray/DVD. Also have an Express Card USB3 adaptor
Yep, lots of cool accessories.
I wanna know if the X230 battery matches with the X220
If we are talking a factory Lenovo battery, x230 battery works and charges in an x220.
Is it still okay to buy an x240 at this time? I'll be getting i5 4th gen 4gb Ram 500gb Windows 10
Yep, nothing wrong with them. Some places have the x250 for the same price which is nicer.
Hey man, had a question, which one to buy?
X230 or X220? ( i love the keyboard on X220) and some little tips would be nice for buying🫡 also thanks for the greatttttt content 🫶🏼🫶🏼
You can buy the x230 and install the x220 keyboard if you like. Lots of tutorials out there on the process.
WOW! Thanks for the super fast reply man!
No problem. Let me know if I can be of further help.
Sorry if i ask a lot of questions but Just wanted to know, is the difference between performance noticeable between these two?
‘Cuz the price difference in my country is a lot between them, and i think the only important thing that I’m losing is the usb3 ports. So as a laptop pro, can you tell me the path to choose?🫡 much love
If the price difference is significant, go the X220 route, that is to say, if it's cheaper. See if you can find an i7 as they had a USB 3 port.
I wish we had the x201 (220 has the same?) keyboard. It was the last, and only keyboard I ever liked (I think I had a t400 as well that had that type). :(
I'd take any ThinkPad keyboard over another.
I wanted to purchase for general entertainment, study purpose , is leneovo thinkpad x240 os good and still worth in 2019? Cause I wanted to use it for say more 3 to 4 years next... Please reply.
I still have the one from the video. Great for productivity and watching videos. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@LaptopRetrospective I wanted to use it for presentations, ms office, browsing, youtube video watching, netflix n stuff. Also what is the quality of display? In terms of video watching on youtube like 720p 1080p? I am getting it for around 260 dollars the x240 one ..
@@kamleshvlogs4008 It came with three display options.
12.5" HD (1366 x 768)
12.5" HD IPS (1366 x 768)
12.5" FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) with Multitouch
@@LaptopRetrospective okay I am getting 12.5 inch one I don't know exactly it's resolution, it's i5 4th gen 8 gb ram 500 gb HDD. Duel battery. Is it good rather than going for new one ?? Which will cost around 500 dollars
Is that $500 USD? That is pretty high if it doesn't come with the FHD touch panel. Ask the seller if it is the nicer screen, but it does seem pretty steep for what they normally go for around here and I work in Canadian dollars.
Should I use x240 or x230 for business laptop I want to make sure I want to take the best laptop
Excellent assessment, my thoughts exactly.
@@ProfTheorie thank you so much for the information
@@ProfTheorie cool asesment
What online games can might be play on x240? On a i5 4th gen,8gb of ram and a 256ssd. W10 os.
Anything that runs on integrated Intel graphics.
Why my thinkpad x240 doesnt have fingerprint like on this video?
The fingerprint reader was optional from the factory.
Never liked the X220/X230 because of the low vertical resolution. I much prefer 1280x800 versus 1366x768. However, what you missed was the X200s/X201s, which had 1440x900 panels as an option. I lucked out on an X200s for cheap. Looking around to find an X201 base unit for cheap. My X201 is a disgrace, with a cracked palm rest (bought that way) and I gave my mint condition X201 to an old girlfriend.
by all means, please DO treat yourself to an IPS panel as soon as you can afford it.
i did upgrade the screen on my X220 out of necessity (wrecked the original panel) and it is just SOOOO much better.
especially because of the improved brightness and contrast.
with the TN panel i could barely read anything when i brought my laptop outside on a sunny day.
reading emails while sitting on the front porch with a cup of coffee?
was not happening with the TN panel but with the IPS it is not a problem.
by the way - how much better is the X230's CPU performance compared to the X220 (assuming both are equipped with i5 CPUs) - i want a new 12" thinkpad sometime in the future and i don't mind the new keyboard but i DO want klicky buttons with the track point
i guess the X240 is not for me as all laptops with U processors that i have used so far felt pretty underwhelming (they seem to always run out of breath when CPU power is needed the most)
I'd love to. Perhaps over the summer if I have time I'll get it done.
I'd like one, but I heard many of these laptops usually end up not powering up due to motherboard issues, anyone knows about that?
seems to be a common issue.
old age
Hey, I bought used x240 in now with 4200u processor. I would like to know what mods I can use to get max performance.
Also, could you tell me 4200u vs 2330m which processor is faster better?
The X240 doesn't really have any mods for performance. Get a good SSD and max out your RAM at 12GB and that's it. The 4200U has the better GPU built in and better battery life easily.
@@LaptopRetrospective ok. Can I put 16gb ram in it? Appreciate your quick response 🤗
No. 4GB is on board. Max it will take in that slot is 8.
Can I add a SSd to x240 in addition to inbuilt HDD..?
Can't remember if there is an mSATA slot in this or not. Check the maintenance manual in the description for all the details.
I DJ with an X201 (no fingerprint reader)
M540 @ 2.53GHz
8GB Ram 64 bit
windows 7
Awesome!
You got an SSD with it? The sucker is super fast with one
I love my T450s. :D
Lots to love.