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not mentionned here because its not a game many people would even think about: Quest 64
The core battle system is turn based with a field you can move in where at the start of a turn, you have movement circle you can navigate, place yourself and choose a spell to cast. The game encourages early that when an enemy casts a spell, you use your own movement to try and dodge these spells yourself, kind of how mario RPG games let you try to take action to mitigate or avoid damage.
Oooooor you can just get lvl 36 earth and get Magic Barrier that completely negates all magical damage for 2-3 turns, which is like 99% of all the attacks in the game, I don't even think there's a boss with a physical attack. Congrats, the entire premise of learning spell patterns to dodge them is now meaningless for the entire remainder of the game.
Oh, also before you even get that lvl 36 earth you get the spell avalange at lvl 24 earth, which is arguably one of the best spells in the game with a bit of RNG. It's ridiculous to a point where the only other element you might even need in the game is water to heal yourself the damage taken between the turns magic barrier runs out or to teleport back to the previous town if needed. Near max water lvl you can even drain magic out of your enemies if you so happen to be running out of magic, but that's rarely an issue. Wind and Fire might as well not exist.
The true broken game is the friends we broke it with along the way
And eating taco bell
@@locloudanerpg And thus breaking toilets.
😂😂😂😂
I don't consider a game broken if you need to rely on obscure save scumming cheats. I consider a game broken when you can get an OP item or a skill legitimately
Most people would be inclined to disagree, in my experience.
All of them is legit in game features.
@@keyserv2Nope, I agree
Final Fantasy 10 with a Lord of the Ring paintcoat? Omg, why have I never heard of that 😍
Yup, it follows the trilogies plot too.
It was soo good, I loved playing as the Balrog in this little single fight you'd unlock after beating the Balrog (I believe)...
They were simpler times :P
@@The_WardenYeah, there was a mode where you'd play as all the bosses and try and defeat the party, it was sick
Because it’s not nearly as deep as FFX.
Still cool game but gets repetitive quick
It was really good , the music was also great! Lord of the Rings The Third Age. Good luck finding a copy.
Wild Arms you can max every characters stats before finishing their tutorial by exploiting the item glitch in apples. You then hit shot every battle until late in the game
Not to mention duplicating items that sell for a lot of gella then maxing out all of Rudy’s guns. You can also dupe crest graphs and secret signs so Cecilia gets all her spells at once and Jack’s skill all cost 1 mp
I remember using the dupe glitch to get enough gella for spells and gun upgrades
Cool list!! Xenogears power crisis and Citan Usuki came to mind, maybe for a future list
Im doing a xenogears tier list soon.
@@locloudanerpg Dude, yes!
@@locloudanerpgsub earned
These videos are really fun.
Amazing video! Thanks man!
Pretty good video except for the crossette talk. She never falls off even late game and is used in WR runs of land of challenge for some of them like poisoned paradise. Also surprised about the lack of 3 being mentioned in the video since Xenoblade 3 ups the crazyness and has even more broken combos than 2 allowed. This would make for a great series honestly since there are so much broken stuff in so many games. Very great video and list. Also hot take but FF8 junction scaling is underappreciated by many given how hard it probably is to make harder difficulties. If this does become a mini series i have a large amount of suggestions for other games like a majority of modern persona, SMT3 Nocturne and 4 Apocalypse, trails series as a whole, Star ocean games, FE Engage, Souls games could make the list too honestly. Etrian Odyssey 1-3, Bravely Default 2, FF6, Paper Mario the thousand Year Door.
FF6, TActics and PMTYD almost made it into this video. I'm sure I'll do another one. Send over your hot takes for sure!
Shining refrain resonance can be so broken where you can either best a boss with ease if you have the type advantage or lose to a mob all jumping you.
Fe awakening can be pretty broken due to how dual guard galeforth can basically make your army unstoppable
Tales of vesperia I don't consider broken with the wave technique as they knew what they had with the skit.
Killer video, do a part two pls this is gold
Oh, shit, that's a pretty brilliant video concept!
If it's been done before, it sure wasn't very much, and I bet they didn't have TEN!!
Great vid!
Thanks!
I really liked how you provided more details on how to actually use the broken strats in this video. I use pretty much all your who is best video to determine my party comps but I don't always exactly know the "build" from the information you provide. This video felt like I had a little bit more than normal
20 plus years later, and folks still can't pronounce Suikoden.
😶That Symphony of the night one....wow...
The funniest part about XC2 is that I'm reasonably sure the game is pretty hard it you DON'T break it (specifically the superbosses). But Corsette and Corvin are so good that they are legit a crucial part of most XC2 speedruns
Kos Mos is the most broken. She melts all the super bosses once she is leveled up enough.
No Trails series with the evasion tank build? Thought it would deserve a spot.
Ah the legendary Fei- in cold steel 1& 2 and instead of patching it they gave us other character who could achieve 100% like Sarah in the next titles 🤣
I almost put Reverie here.
No Evade SUCKS even on easy mode USE a full party with a FULL Str setup for 99,999 in CS1 4x 500,000 damage S craft users and Nightmare mode bosses still DIE IN UNDER 30 SECONDS NOT 1 to 2 HOURS on Nightmare.
Another Loclo fire video!!!
Another comment from a nice person!
Literally any Trails of Cold Steel game can be broken via Evasion tank Fie, physical nuke Laura, magical nuke Emma, eternal Delay Rean, a plentiful choice of CP batteries, a plethora of orders and busted S-Craft spam strategies - not every method works in every game, but every single one of them has a combination of several of them.
I remember learning about one of the lesser broken setups, playing Morrowind at age 13 I found out by accident that if you can make it to the Ghost Gate, you can steal a half set of Glass armor with zero sneak skill, then if you have Mournhold, you will get a set of Dark Brotherhood armor, so as long as you can dodge Cliff Racers, you can get a half set of the best light armor and the other half being the second best before level 10. I still play a light armor 2h build with alchemy and alteration every time I end up playing it
Ff8, weapons are one of the least broken thing it can offer lol. They jjst increase a little bit of damage by a little bit. The extra abilities for Squall arent even that good excpet Lion Heart. But I agrre with the stats and limit brreaks being broken as hell. Zell armageddon fist only does 1M+ if you have 11 seconds and max strength. Selphie's the end depends a lot on luck. But other games in the series have the other instant death that goes through immunity too. ff7,10,13 to name a few.
I would have included sands of destruction. You can chain flurry attacks together and once you figure out how to do it you can one shot every single enemy in the game for the entirety of the rest of the game except flying enemies. So you get two bosses that are mildly difficult and everything else does instantly through no real hard work of your own
More RPG-adjacent, but one of my favorite aspects of the Borderlands series is how utterly broken some builds can be. Like I stumbled onto 1HP Moze in BL3 and had an absolute blast seeing how quickly I could clear out entire rooms of baddies.
Short version: At the end of the first campaign, you get an item which takes away all your HP except 1, and puts it into your shields. This would be an iffy tradeoff for most characters, but Moze has an entire skill tree dedicated to getting combat and shield buffs when her HP is low. Properly built with a couple other key upgrades, Moze can wade straight into an entire mob of enemies, racing around and shotgunning them in the face while ignoring all their attacks, and come out the other side with *more* shields than when she went in.
Persona 1 should be on that list. Just use a Devil/Moon persona on the male characters and Judgement on all others and you are practically immune to magic attacks (except for Hama/Mudo/Kouga/Eiga spells). Magic attacks kill more in that game than physical attacks.
OH WAIT HANG ON THIS IS ACTUALLY A NEW VIDEO I NEVER CATCH THESE!
Firstly, Love for The Third Age makes me so god damn happy to see anyone talking to it and yes, It's absolutely broken as all shit and the worst part is you can literally just grind everyones abilities as soon as you get them.
Literally any Final Fantasy game can count here just by mechanics, same as Pokemon...
The most broken one I can think of that I do for fun is Lost Odyssey. Level up the mortals to get their last abilities, get all 4 immortals to learn every skill, then literally just make whatever party you want. Or Eternal Sonata as Viola just, makes the game completely broken on her own, add Polka and I actually don't think they can die at all.
Final Fantasy 8 : once you are in the town of Laguna, you get to a kind of highway where an overpass has a spot where you make an enemy appear from the air , landing above you and attacking you. You can repeat this fight with a turbo/automatic controller and leave your party (once strong enough) to level up to level 99 at this spot. Same thing : Final Fantasy Legend 3 (aka Saga 3) is a game with a space ship homebase, with a computer simulator combat spot to level up. Use a turbo/auto controller mode to level up during the night and return the next day. Final Fantasy 6 has this on the river escape scenario with a looping river path that can be exploited the same way!
Honestly hitting your own characters to increase their HP in Final Fantasy II is actually pretty awful. The real way to break FFII Pre Pixel Remaster is to run one naked frontliner and build evade% and Evade level. Evasion determines turn order and boosting evasion level to 10 few enemies can actually connect with physical damage which is good because enemy drain attacks work the same way the Blood Sword does.
Toad is hideously busted. You also don't want your magic to increase too quickly early game in FFII.
Oh that amnesia move with Alakazam, Mewtwo or even Snorlax...those were good times.
Thought you would add the "broken" dagger from Dark Cloud 1 😆
I don’t know about you all… but I **love** being god-tier in video games. I always play easy so I can feel absolutely unstoppable. 😅
Huh, never even expected you to consider Fallout 2…good selection, sir!
Of COURSE Nr1. is FF8...
Such a *beautiful Broken MESS* 😂
I feel like the ability to make a broken character is almost a necessity in a single player rpg
Final Fantasy 2 is not a mess... I love it as intended, a 8.9/10! you can level up before going across the river with the canoe, learning no more than 2 words... and level enough to go down west to go to Mysidia before starting the game... you get to the opening of the last dungeon at the start before learning the 3rd word! NO other RPG offer s you this. This is unseen to this day OPEN world to the truest! Like The Legend of Zelda 1 on NES! the open worlds on NES !
I liked the lord of the rings rpg, it and the summoner series were my favorite non final fantasy ps2 rpgs.
ff8 im just on the intro but its gotta be ff8 on #1
honestly, for morrowind, it's probably easiest just to use the spellmaking exploit with jack of all trades. Can be done basically after leaving seyda neen and reaching balmora. Makes all stats super high.
The third age is an amazing game!
squall with all the strength and two ladies with regular revive. keep squall life low and spam pass turns until his limit break comes up, squall smash. if squall dies revive with normal revive to keep him in limit break range. use ladies to buff everybody and heal each other.
I was about to say SO2 since you could literally break the game with Marvel but then SO2R release and you could literally break the game IN MANY PIECES when you unlocked IC. SO2R is an EXTREMELY POWERFUL system that Chaos difficulty is TRIVIALIZED the moment you unlock the IC system....THAT BROKEN!!!
Chaos MODE STILL needs Bloody armors on Claude OPERA BOWMAN Dias/Chisato else even at lv 255 I would still have the NORMAL ENEMIES still HIT for 9999 damage EACH.
Reverse Side is pretty good...except for bounced checks. Gaining 100 skill points whenever you learn a talent is good too.
Is FF2 pixel remaster still broken?
Some of it is, but the shield exploit no longer works.
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 1 can be broken if you just do circles around every single type of mobs.
Finally, someone mentions the absolute beast monster who everyone sleeps on: Irvine!!
8:08 sorry, but in Gen 1, Normal was physical.
Castlevania Symphony of the Night you missed an exploit : The medusa shield!
Use the high luck name code when creating your file, and go kill some medusa heads in the eastern tower... use medusa shield to kill enemies at the touch. Earlier than Alucard shield without the glitch !! Also : you can do it the normal way, it takes me about 3-5 hours max each time I did it (3 times normal, 2 times with luck)
I know in the original pokemon game there was a glitch if you beat the elite 4 them put the first pokemon of your party into PC after the whole cutscene they gain something to their stats. I can't remember exactly how it works but i unintentionally made my Alakazham invincible
I remember when I first realized I could blast my own party in Final Fantasy II, that was it for any semblance of balance for that particular run.
idc if its a worse ffx or busted we like ctb battle systems round here
No honorable mention about the W-Item glitch in FF7? Once you get it you basically can create 99 of any item and in theory have infinite money with it. The remainder of the game gets broken with 99 megalixers.
Favorite thing to do in FF8 was draw the sleep spells to max on each character in the Seed training ground. Junction them to everyone's attack then proceed to force every enemy your characters hit to fall asleep. Even smacking them while they were asleep wouldn't wake them.
i do unlimited limit break trick. even the first time you can play them, you can do that too.
Although all Suikoden games *can* be broken with the right combo of runes, it’s certainly not immediately obvious to the average player. :)
I remember when I played FF2 for the first time and I became aware of how the leveling system worked. I immediately began to exploit it and have party members beat each other up for as long as possible while confused imps watched on, lol!
Surprised fft wasnt on this list. Between tg cid breaking the game the gear that breaks the game not to mention the mime ane calculators.
There must be an FF8 mod that balances the game around going crazy broken in the beginning. No, not nerfing anything, just boosting the enemies around you!
Where is the eiyuden chronicle hundred heroes tier list? 🤔 🤷🏽♂️
July!
Started laughing out loud when you mentioned Morrowind because holy hell you aren't kidding
Yeah that game is wacko
I nominate Steven Universe: Unleash The Light for a belated entry on this list.
SP Engines are so powerful once you can get them set up in the mid game, and you unlock the single best character through the story about 1/4 of the way into the second world of levels.
To be fair, 2 characters are almost completely useless until the back 1/2 of the game at the minimum, but it’s so horribly balanced that it’s an absolute blast.
I assumed that FF tactics would have been there, but great list nonetheless.
To make FF8 more broken learn Diablo’s No Encounters along with the suggested card strategy. Not only will be junctioning high end magic, but you will be keeping yourself at a low level due to fighting required battles only.
I always wondered why in the show ash needed a ghost Pokémon to fight the psychic boss… never knew that ghost moves were suppose to be super effective lol!!
Final Fantasy II’s Ultima spell works as Hironobu Sakaguchi intended in the GBA versions and later. It is a joke in the original and PS1 versions.
I had hard time to beat FF8 when I was 16 :D Bu I had no internet so I had no idea it was broken. I realized, that level scale. Still I leveled up and beating bosses with highier level seemed more easy. Maybe because when you farm xp you also draw magic and make GF stronger...
It’s possible to go through skies of Arcadia without taking any damage except ship battles and boss fights
And for the ship battles, halfway through the game you get access to full-heal items that make all ship combat completely trivial from then out.
Who is thumbnail,think i saw him graffitied on a wall in my area
FFII main character
@@jamesnewell1876 thank you
Skyrim Fortify Restoration loop... You can become invulnerable and one shot even the strongest of bosses while still being level 1
Can't forget any tales of series game
"Unbalanced"? "Misbalanced"?
Try imbalanced. There ya go.
Speaking of Xenoblade 2 DLC, Elma enables X's Overdrive
Why fo2 over 1? Navarro runs are hell to do if you arent very experienced in the game, in FO1 you can get the alien blaster after getting out of the first cave and the games over
Joon hi in like a dragon. Just head trauma.
Is it really broken if Xenoblade X's insane builds require tons of playtime to set up? I think it's a testament to its design that you can achieve such crazy builds.
Final Fantasy VI? Breath of Fire?
Fallout is balanced with the difficulty of its quests taken in consideration, if u have this previous knowledge is one thing, but if u dont its ok cuz u have to search a lot to figure it out.
Final fantasy 8. Maybe I should take a Selphie.
I was assuming FF6 would be first: Vanish + Doom.
11:01 answer is easy...alchemy.
FF2 and FF8 are meant to be played without an ounce of grinding. In FF2 case, you naturally match the strength of the dungeons due to how the battle system works. weapons and magic level up faster the higher rank enemies are. *cough* lets not talk about unarmed and shields.
In FF8, while Triple Triad is the earliest to get broken, the fastest is still refining and carding. Instead of drawing you can fight enemies and card them. Early enemies like in Ifrit's cave, the bombs drop items and can be carded to make Fira X 20. Yeah thats low but better than drawing 100 fire. by the time you get off your first train, you can buy items at the shop to turn into Wizard stones to -Aga spells. That's insane to have those, making sure the rest of the game is a joke. Not much longer after that, you can go to the desert and fight the monsters that you card for Tornado, he also drops the item you can refine for it.
FF8 system is so everywhere and broken because it kinda has failsafes implemented everwhere. GFs level up independently and can be spammed to win boss fights with no regard to strategy, they also take Damage for you. A good amount of bosses have the magic needed to beat them on their person for Draw. Enemies magic level up also with their levels to make sure you don't fall behind. Limit breaks are priority to make sure they go off. FF8 is a broken exploitative mess to compensate its systems.
bravely default with hasten world and stillness made you literally unkillable by any enemy in the game
My next list is broken Classes. You best believe Bravely Default will be there.
@@locloudanerpg In Bravely Second it would wizard and time mage and cast meteor rain
no ff7 and ff8 infinite limit break trick?
Final Fantasy VI would like a word (looking at you Ultima + Quick Combo)
I just started watching and wana know why Skyrim is number 1 lol 😂 ok I know why but seriously if it’s not idk 🤷♀️
Here's an idea: most broken JRPG spells. Dunno if you'll read this but I swear to the Gods if you do, kudos hope you do it. There are so many broken RPG spells, but like, 3/4 of them are JRPG spells, iirc.
I read all comments. I love the idea!
@@locloudanerpg My man, not much beats Infinite Turns: The Spell from SMT IV. Guardian's Eye gives 3 blinking turns, at a cost of 255 MP but hey you can just throw MP restorative items on Masakado's Shadow. Sure, 255 MP, but granting infinite turns in theory is pretty busted when more actions per turn means more damage. I can't wait for a video featuring this spell.
@@redmagelala true. There’s also some spells in Elden Ring that are nutballs.
@@locloudanerpg You're right. I feel like all FromSoft (but especially Elden Ring) games have spells that, if any other game, is broken by nature. Though, my favorite is still Armageddon from any version of Persona 3. Guaranteed 9,999 damage. Satan is guaranteed and Helel is easy to get since Mamoru is not social linkable very late game (He's halfway through the game). Only two enemies in the entire game, difficulty doesn't alter stats, can survive this attack and it has a Reduces HP/MP to 1 HP/0 MP after every cast but you can offset with healing items, the clock and Victory Cry (full HP/MP restore after battle). Final boss has 14 forms so you save Armageddon for 14th phase and the superboss has 18000 HP so you save it for once she's under 9999 HP. The Reaper has 8500 HP so no, Death ain't safe from this, even on the hardest difficulty.
As much as a I love that FF5 and 6 don't really allow you to use the quick spell MORE Then once PER party member for infinite turns and Chrono Burst in the 4 Cold Steel games costs too much though on Easy mode at max lv most boss fights won't really NEED the 2 turns spell used.
How in the hell does FFT not make this list?
Explain how to break it. Got it on android and Find it difficult (played once entire life and not played it since)
The Star ocean series is a broken mess, where invincibility is a normal state. 2 R, allows you to craft to make weapons and accessories to hit for max (early) Damage and obtain invincibility through bloody armor. throw in you can now absorb hp through factors and you can go for early ultimate weapons like Dias until you unlock the ability to break the Hp limit and do 10x more Dmg. 3 allows the boost in Def to become invincible. 5 gives you bloody armor as a title and your main healer has too much mp to run out.
6 has to be the worst. They made leveling too strong compared to armor and weapons. Weapons are only worth it if you are exploiting elemental weaknesses. equipment stats go up too little until you get to endgame, being over shadowed by just gaining levels. Letty exp boost + crafting junk to get surprise attack to a combine 400% (through on field party members) allows you to level up insanely throwing balance out the window.
If that wasn't enough, halfway through the game you can by rings that give you stats if your hp is 25% or less. This allows you synthesize it onto your gear to max out your attack or Def making you unkillable outside of status effects and fall damage (no guard members).
If that wasn't enough Alby has the abilty to stunlock most bosses in the game (the Bird, and Angels excluded). This is without talking about Nina, or making ultimate weapons by luck early on.
I second Star Ocean. Tri Ace always has crazy unbalanced games. For Second Story, getting endgame weapons through Goodie Boxes is ridiculous. And the getting the Eternal Sphere/Aeterna right after the Lacuer tournament. Also the two Battle Suits right after recruiting Ernest.
But in SO 5 you can really only have 1 party member with that Bloody armor effect NOT everyone.
@@veghesther3204 true but also not true. i'll list more. rush gauge attacks can 1 shot bosses and provide invincibility. you can equip a title so you're their target allowing everyone else to fight safely. you can do constant rush attacks providing invincibility for a second person. That allows your long range fighters to be safe without the need to be immune. My ethereal queen fight is just me wailing on her without anyone getting hit. you could also use that other guys attack that gives you hp. no matter what happens the amount of danger you are in is 0.
4:00 Suikoden 5 characters kinda interesting though encounter rate and ps2 loading was awful. Georg Prime not in vid was balanced by the fact he wasn't always there 😂 and the story so slow you may not continue.
7:57 pokemon wrap/fire spin stun lock is torture. Saved me with rental rapidash toxic in pokemon stadium for switch online with no imports. 8:40 oh good stated. I don't think items can be used PvP though I wondered what x accuracy worked with so thanks
12:24 pixel remaster boost fixed ff2 a ton and 12:55 double shield finally allows unarmed attack with no ultima magic interference, and both benefit for the formula. Shame no clips for that PR nor blood sword/ancient sword wielding for life drain and curse to own ultima weapon in psp/gba versions soul of rebirth.
Vid more overpowered than not working broken. Also ff5 quick and rapidfire are up there with ff6 Gau rages.
Breath of Fire : Agni. Free after getting Rudra. Game becomes a joke after
i wasn't aware that each and every character in a RPG have to be "balanced" to each other, like clones, what's the point then to have a diverse party? can you explain? your obsession with balancing
I'm still waiting for a ranking of all the party members in Persona 3 Reload and maybe you can do as well a ranking of all the party members in Xenoblade 3 Future Redeemed
Actually normal is a physical type in ge n 1
Every game is a fever dream lol
I was wondering if that was going to come up. Don’t know why i used that so much in this script haha. Everyone should probably unsubscribe.
@@locloudanerpg all fun! Keep it up!
But why isnt TALES OF VESPERIA here?... I mean yeah you need to grind in order to be OP but it does make the game broken once you fully utilize its mechanics...
THIRD AGE is multi platform NOT just ps2
FF7 is more broken. Materia combinations, Vincent and Barrett overkill tactics, lucky 7s, and jackpot.
JAKE AND AMIR FANS UNITE. NUMBER NINE...
no star ocean saga
How is Final fantasy 6 not on this list 😂
Not to spoil the list.
THERE WAS NO WAY NR1 WASNT GOING TO BE NR1.
Fully agree. Such a grandslam.on how to bust open a game.
That said. Bit surprised Tales of Abyss on PS2 didn't make the cut.
Now it's an exploit. But with the world map exploit you can get the Vorpal sword as soon as you enter the world map.
If you wanna brake the game..... That's how you do it :D
Sadly that glitch is only on the PS2 game and the Vorpal Sword kind of SUCKS since its Elemental based so some enemies would absorb its damage and eventually Luke and Guy's Arena weapons are so much better then it.
@@veghesther3204 that's a fair point. But still it's really busted :D
>balance in an RPG
>often a single player genre
you've got E-SPORT brainrot
ngmi
Star Ocean Second Story R (never played the original so I don't know if it measures up here). there are just so many ways to break it in half and unlike the Xenoblades you barely need to be trying because there are SO many ways
FE Awakening. I guess this game deserves points for having pretty serious ludonarrative harmony in the usual "power of friendship" story because goddamn if pair-up or whatever it was called doesn't break the game.
Its the same so for ANY version of 2nd story just Bloody armor Claude OPERA Bowman Dias/Chisato as soon as they hit lv 100 in the R version and NEVER REMOVE it healing star for Opera STILL restores 5000 HP as soon as as you have a lv 100 party with 9999 HP each.
I was gonna mention that Bloody armor is the no effort needed "I win" button in SO2 and the remake but I could never bring myself to use it as it felt like an "infinite lives" cheat code. Luckily its not needed as you can beat SO2R starting on Chaos difficulty from beginning to end without even touching bloody armor...hell some characters such as Precis can quite easily solo any challenge in chaos endgame.
Precis SUCKS because she can not EQUIP IT But Ashton/Welch/Noel are still pure crap WITH IT equipped EVERYTHING on Chaos mode at lv 255 STILL hits for 9999 damage since the still DO on UNIVERSE mode at lv 255 for the LAST bosses.
@@veghesther3204 oh man it's you!!! I've heard of you!!!!!
@@mrp1234 he's fun to get riled up 🤣
Ff10 is broken. You can easily get infinite AP to make all your characters gods.