Now this. This is the way you make fans Behringer, not with the cheesy video clips. Here one can feel the care and the intention to provide in a reasonable frame.
Thanks guys for more than 500 comments and questions to our WING release video. We compiled the most common questions and tried to answer them in this video: 0:18 - Latency and Parallel Processing 1:11 - DAW Control 2:04 - Internal and External Expansion Cards 2:36 - DCA Spill and Pop-Groups 3:06 - Multiband Compressor 3:34 - Ultranet and P16 3:51 - GPIO Ports 4:07 - Solo-In-Place If you have more questions or want to see a specific just let us know in the comments!
Guys, this video requires subtitles. I struggled to create subtitles on my own, and here's the result of my work: amara.org/en/videos/NjY2LJl7XoY3/info/behringer-wing-faq-daw-dca-latency-expansion-cards-and-more/ . There are still multiple words I couldn't understand (trust me - I tried hard) so it requires some update from your side. With no offence, you should offer pronunciation classes for some of your employes.
You didn’t answer all the questions. Such as what how does MADI or DANTE work, as we see no ports for it? Why USB 2.0, when USB C is becoming a standard, and has a higher bandwidth? How does DAW control function?
Thank you very much for answering some questions in this video. You're not lying with the slogan "We hear you". Regarding the expansion card: Pretty please do the Waves Soundgrid Expansion Card. As soon as its out there, I will upgrade from my X32 :D Also: Maybe some AVB expansion card would be nice :) Would make it much easier to use the Wing as monitor console with a S3L at FOH :)
Uwe Baganz absolutely... I ordered a wing then cancelled it because it’s bigger than I need or can easily transport by myself. Currently using an M32r or X32 rack for live gigs.
I would gladly pay double for a version of the Wing (or Midas equivalent) that was studio focused for music and post production with: 96khz (ideally up to 192khz) Comprehensive DAW control including dedicated transport functions and touch sensitive faders, colour and scribble strip follow, user assignable shortcuts and powerful plugin control Comprehensive, intuitive and flexible surround monitoring functions (particularly for 7.1 up to ATMOS) Bonus: HDMI I/O that passes through 4k video and extracts all audio for routing to whatever busses or monitors we choose (this would be an instant buy for many game audio professionals btw)
Can you guys do a video with an example daw? And how you can use this in a recording studio? Can you use the plugins in real time, from the mixer to the daw. Using this as a controller and interface. You would have me sold on that. This is a pretty sweet mixer. Great job on it.
Sarah Prinsloo do you also have the wing ? And was the purpose to use it as in a home studio ? .. at least in my case, it’s frustrating to by something this expensive without any answers from Behringer!
@@sarahelizabeth1196 I have the Wing and i'm using it with logic pro x... i cant use my faders so far besides the one routed to my mic fader but i can use the efx and compressors going into my recording. hope this helps p.s. for in studio i wouldn't buy it yet
I got hands on wing last week. Brilliant first impression, but a few things: The DynamicEQ has no graphic view? Only virtual knobs? The Patch-Situation: Is there a 1:1 patch button coming? Maybe for an AES Group-Pool to patch a S32 easily 1:1 to source 1-32? What is the button down the wheel on the right bottom of the touchdisplay for? 96khz would be great... Maybe by using two aes lines to a Midas DL151? Thx Behringer!
StageConnect to ultranet needs to happen ASAP. Also, a Dante expansion card needs to be released very soon. Cool board, but we at least need the same features as the X32.
You're awesome, Behringer. Would you consider a future, smaller "Winglet" for us who don't need so many channels? Same screen and quality, but half the size and channel count...you know what I mean! 😁👍 God bless you! 🙏
@Behringer Wing is really cool !! what I'll say next doesn't relate to Wing, but I'll post it here since you are kindly reading and since you have touch UI: Please, if possible, make a MIDI hardware sequencer with *touch screen* and multitrack piano roll . It would be great !
I'm probably too late to get an answer, but Wing looks great but it really exceeds my needs. I know it's still early days but there's definitely a market for a scaled down version of this too. Is that something we might see?
This is a very good product in my opinion, how ever a mini wing with thunderbolt 3 added to the expansion slot, it would be a hit i'm the first in line
I wish it had word clock input like the X Adat card has. It would be so much better if you had added a word clock in and out on the console, so you can lock to video sync. But it looks like there is no word clock input option at all at the moment. A word clock time code card would be a great addition. You could then record UP TO 48 TRACKS off one of the AES50 ports with a DN9630 and be locked to video sync.
Before laying down your hard earned money on this check out the Allen Heath SQ series. I was really anticipating the release of the so called successor to the X32 and Wing let me down to the point I stared to research what else is on the market. Discovered the Allen Heath SQ and was so blown away I bought a SQ6. 48 channels, 96K , 0.7 latency across all channels running all plugins with phase coherency, Daw support with ASIO drivers for both PC and Mac. Outstanding sonic's. along with Dante and Waves card support.
Would love one of these adapted for some studio. 8 channels. Audio/midi IO. Able to use onboard FX for pre-DAW processing. Control surface etc. Basically combine XTouch with a UA interface and effects.
Hello Behringer Team!! Do we ll ever see a compact or a producer size Wing "Mixer"? I think most of homestudio producer is looking for a mixing console with all what you need (instead of have separate audio interface+ pre-amp+analog mixer) fully compatible with the most used DAW. I think it could be a Masterpiece for home studio!! It would be amazing!
I get to really like the Wing. But i was shocked when i saw the fader movements when he changed banks. It looked slow and jittery somehow. Will this be fixed?
The faders are good. It looks like they're timed so they all stop moving at the same time, thus the faders that need to move the farthest move the fastest
@@artysanmobile That is reflecting the DAW automation. If the fader automation is jagged in the DAW, (often happens when people create automation curves with a mouse), then the fader movement on the WING should match what you see in the DAW.
I just purchased this unit new on reverb and I gotta say... I'm extremely concerned with the lack of explanation about DAW integration (specifically Logic). Please @behringer open your mouth about this and put out some videos, or updates on firmware releases. It's very odd for you to keep dodging this topic or only glossing over it with 20-second explanations. 3500 dollars for a cutting edge console released in 2019/2020 without daw support or explanation is a bit like buying a tesla with no charging port. YOU MUST TALK TO US ABOUT DAW INTEGRATION! Now that I've done my share of cyberbullying for the day... Thank you for releasing this unit. It is exciting and I'm positive it's completely loaded with incredible and useful features. Unfortunately I made my purchase before I fully realized it doesn't have DAW support or explanations. I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO WAIT if this matters to you.
When is Daw support coming for studio use , I’ve got my wing today... 3200 dollar and no support at release... you guys have been pretty wage with info regarding studio/daw support , not all people buying it and meant to use it for live... how long do we have to wait to get studio support ? Otherwise I’m thinking of returning it within my 30 day period! Thankful for answers!
Had the same problem with the X32 it's not really a DAW mixer. Took me weeks to simply inset an effect that I could hear in the daw, IE guitar amp insert to track in DAW. You have to go via the AES channels!! As a live engineer I fail to see the problem with inserting an effect I assumed this would be sent wherever you send the track post fade! As in that's what post fade means. The card outputs are locked to pre fade even when you select post fade. I also tried coming out of the buss and into a second channel on aux 1 still no luck.
The per channel single dynamic EQ instead of the gate is a really cool feature. I had hoped for more but I will definitely use it. Thanks for answering my question! I have more :) Are the FX slot multiband compressors considered "Premium" or "Standard" FX processors? Does that mean a maximum 16 mono multiband inserts in either case?
Thanks for your suggestion. Have you checked out the documentation that came with the WING DAW update (included in the firmware download)? There are detailed instructions how to set it up, a table that shows you you exactly which functions are on which button on WING plus you can modify that and create your own preset. Hope that helps!
Hi :) I have two questions. First: Why there are so many effects, e.g. all the compressors, only available as replacements? I want to use them as insert, too - please. :) E.g. to use two compressors in one chain. Second: Would two buss's be in phase, as long as they get the same signals and no inserts were used? E.g. for two busses of drums for parallel compression. Thank's a lot.
nAbend zusammen. Ich bleibe mal beim Deutschsprech, dann bin ich schneller fertig... ;-) Hier wäre erst einmal mein persönlicher Fragekatalog: - Die Sache mit den fest den Inputs zugeordneten Sources sieht unpraktisch aus, wenn die Instrumente falsch aufgesteckt werden sollten. Könnte man die in dem Fall neu zuordnen? (Andernfalls scheint man alles neu anlegen zu müssen (Beschriftung, Farbe, M/st/m-s, Tags, Patch zum Kanal sowieso) - Kann man mehrere aufeinanderfolgende Sources auf einmal patchen, vgl. zu DiGiCo-Ripple-Funktion? - Gibt es Patchpunkte die man nicht insertieren kann? Ist der Insert Postfade-tauglich? - welche Sidechainmöglichkeiten gibt es? (auch bei DynEQ im Kanal und evtl. Dynamics im FX-Rack?) - lässt sich in den Bussen eine M/S-(De-)Codierung und die Stereobasisbreitenregelung nutzen? - hat es ein Delay in den Bussen? Und lassen sich die Delays in Stereokanälen/Bussen L/R verschieden einstellen, um sie z.B. für Laufzeitstereophonie nutzen oder um Unterschiede kompensieren zu können? - wie flüssig ist die Copy/Paste-Funktion zu handhaben? Nun hätte ich noch folgende Ideen ;-): - DCA-Gruppen um die meisten Kanalzug-Parameter erweitern, welche als Master die gesetzten Kanaleinstellungen, z.B. Dynamic-Thresholds oder Auxe relativ zueinander gleichbleibend verändern (Beispiel: Die im Soundcheck gesetzten Kanalkompressoren der Vocals machen bei vollem Haus und lautem Publikum zu früh zu, der Drummer kann nun höhere Gate-Tresholds und mehr Ambi-FX vertragen) (vgl. DiGiCo Multichannel, aber über die DCA-Gruppen) - Eine frei konfigurierbare Meteringseite im Editor / App, welche auch GainReduction-Anzeigen des FX-Racks zur Verfügung stellt, so dass man seine wichtigsten Pegel und Dynamics immer übersichtlich im Blick hat - ein Adapter für X32-Karten würde vermutlich viele freuen, auch wenn dann nur 32 I/O zur Verfügung stehen - oder ein Adapter auf MY-Karten... (duckundweg :D ) - ein LoudnessMeter dBLUFS mit Verlaufsanzeige und kalibrierbares dBALEQ-Meter im FX-Rack - FX-PlugIn für die Verwendung von Doppelmembrankapseln mit Einzelabgriff (mkh800twin, LCT640TS u.ä.) oder Polarflex-Anordnungen zum Variieren der Richtcharakteristik So, genug für heute. Viel Spass beim tüfteln und danke für den frischen Wind auf dem Markt. Gruss
AES50 for EURORACK now that Behringer is getting serious about Eurorack Modular, it would be time to get into bringing serious digital mixing solutions too, like for example an AES50 stage-box with 24 or 48 inputs and oupts in MiniJack Format so that we can go into complex mixing and patching. Please Behringer, only YOU can do it !
Je viens de la commander chez Thomann. Je l'attends avec impatience. Merci pour ce formidable jouet.... Je vais vendre ma X32, garder mon S32 et peut-être mon X32-Core pour les petits concerts. Merci et bravo... Fred
Hi , About the Card Slots: Will there be a possibility for the user to Access the internal Card Slot? I think I goud idea should be Dante and Waves internally and a MADI, Dante, ADAT Card for external Slot. Many thanks for this great product :)
For easy user access WING has the external card slot. The internal card can not be changed by the users. While it looks like plug and play it is actually more complicated: cables and a PCB have to get removed to access the internal expansion and an additional software has to be installed internally. You can get the internal card upgraded in a service center. And yes, it's possible to mix and match internal and external cards. For example two Dante cards or an internal Dante and an external Soundgrid card.
Have you thought about updating the X-Touch? It would be excellent to have an X-touch with the shape of the wing but more focused as a control surface for home studios, something similar to the SSL Nucleus (control surface + dante audio interface, 2 pre-amps, 2 monitors, 2 headphones, talckback ) but with the shape, the 24 faders of the wing and an affordable price (the nucleus is expensive).
Hochi Orrillo My EXACT thoughts ! X-touch seems so outdated and bulky now... We need a cheaper Wing Studio Edition (no standalone mixer nor audiocard and fx needed, just Deep DAW and VST/AU control). Someting better than Softube’s console1 series. And also a BCR2000 MK2! About time Behringer. Are you really listening?
Does the Wing-Live card record 64 mono or stereo channels via SD / USB? Is it possible to stream multichannel audio from the SD card, send it through the mixer and then record it on the SD as a multichannel file again, at the same time?
Hello. The Wing and Ableton seem to work ok together. What I can not figure out is how to get WIng to do what most audio/midi interfaces will do, which is sync / start / stop Ableton with my external sequencer(Squarp). ether slave or master, do the midi ports have any purpose/support yet?
I am interested in the scenes function of this board. Is it possible to have fade or transition time between scenes? The lack of this function in the X32/M32 prevents me from ever using scenes in a live setting even though I know from use on other boards that they can be extremely powerful
Personally id want an expansion card that adds a dual sata slot for using two high capacity ssd's. Also not sure if it can do midi sequencing onboard but being able to sequence various outboard gear could be very useful for live performance usage given everything else it can do.
Why does Behringer build a mixing console like the WING, for which you need 6 stage boxes so that you can use the full potential of this machine? The Behringer Wing costs around 2700 euros. A stagebox almost 500 euros. This results in a total price of approx. 5000 euros. Does everyone know who wants to get a wing?
One other question/comment that you probably can't answer at this point; are there any plans for a rack version similar to the X32 rack? I own two and find them incredibly useful and easy to transport for smaller / fly gigs. I also love that my stage box can be a monitor console. I'll probably continue to use my X32 rack in this fashion with the wing, but more inputs is always helpful! Thanks!
@BEHRINGER None of my questions were covered so I would like a reply: Can Wing have a backplane Master and Slave Wing "joiner" buss (linking sends & phones?) Will it get 96K support or not or is that the MIDAS Heritage D Touch/AIR product? Any 48 Fader BigWing? or only using Midi HUI/MUI Mackie option from third party? 4 Reply
HI! GREAT JOB BEHRINGER. CAN I PAN THE WIDTH OF A CHANNEL DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT BUSSES ? LIKE 50% ON THE MAIN BUS AND 20% ON THE BROADCAST BUS. WHAT ABOUT MID-SIDE PROCESSING? IS THERE ANY PLUGINS INCLUDED FOR IT?
What I'm still confused about is the multitrack recording capabilities.I have not seen any videos on if you can edit tracks from the touch screen? Does it just record tracks and you can't edit? so you have all these tracks in your computer that you want to upload and doing multitrack mixing session. Can you do that?all my questions have to do with the standalone multitrack capabilities.
Please, i cant do multitrack recording on my windows pc with the wing. Only 2in, 2out Any help please? How can i record 481in48out from the wing on my windows laptop?
Hay funciones de yamaha LS9 muy practicas cuando, por ejemplo en teatro, la produccion no necesita de un operador, ya que se trata de pistas de audio incidentales. Funcion de linckeo de escenas con el reproductor de audio para que éste reproduzca un archivo de audio llamando una escena. Tambien la automatizacion de fader sobre tiempo. Esas dos funciones(y seguramente alguna que otra mas) a un click de boton y sin necesidad de complementos externos, harian de las X32 y Wing dispositivos mas autonomos, sin necesidad de agregar PC, software u otro aparato. Cabe destacar que dichas funciones no existe en en ningun modelo en el rango de precios de X/M32 o Wing . . .
Will the current app of Mx-q work with the wing? If not is there an app that will allow users the ability to mix there in ears like we are currently able to do with the Midas and other Behringer consoles!?
Am I to understand this correctly? No delay compensation within the mix busses? Afaik the X/M series has it, why not the Wing? Parallel (Drum) Compression alone is a good reason to have delay compensation all around imho... Or is this a feature coming in a later software version?
Beautifully crafted and empowering design. BHERINGER has always been wright were we need them.Very intresting gear, the sort thing you might loos sleep over, live check to check to get? Sell your intire studio? and or Max out your credit card,but will it be worth the sacrifice? Connectivity is priorty. USB 3 ,SPIDIF, Intergration and summing capability How will the WING by BERINGER perfom with common gear in a personal and or pro studio inviorment. You have great design impulssive selling appeal it looks intuitive now inspire us; close the sale with Intergration, Flexability and connectivity. Andre M Brown Linkedin influencer.
hey, did you guys have an idea how the soundgridcard will be implemented ? will I be able to receive the input channels of a ... for instance a digigrid iox ( =soundgrid interface ). If I understand well the xm32 could send/receive i/o via the wsg card to/from the soundgrid server, but was not able to receive an input signal from another i/o-hardware in this soundgrid-network. some manufacters makes this possible ... will yyou guys too ?
So when should we expect the internal expansion cards? im most interested in the internal waves expansion card. and can the 2 insertslots onm the channel be used to insert up till 64 channels of waves plugins directly
@BEHRINGER awesome to see a dynamic eq! will that have side chain input? now if we can have saturation and most of all a vocal rider on each CH. we won't need waves rack.
uuuuhhh... yeah. but how do you get audio in to protools with this thing? it's marketed as a 48 channel audio interface; however there is a complete lack of any information on how to set it up as such. I have devolved into panicked random screen tapping in the various routing menus... Little help here guys! :)
Hi, I'm french, so sorry for my english!!! Like I said to you, I'm waiting for the Wing in the few days. I'm so excited... I have a suggestion for you. I like to use Vintage Eq after gate and before compressor and to use graphic Eq after all. I'm a X32/X32-Core user, and I do that with the both... Could you please look at this idea to let us the possibility to have the choice between insert bus or a fourth plugin in the chain per channel? I hope it is possible to do that without sicrify the latence of the Wing. Have a nice day, Frederic
Would it be possible to run to both DANTE and MADI at the same time? We are building a new OB Trailer for Sports and Live Events. The BlackMagic ATEM Constellation runs MADI audio but we would also like to have the ability to include DANTE to make it simple in a concert environment to quickly and simply pull all the individual channels into our desk for recording and mixing from the Live FOH desks from the main Audio contractors, most of who will have a DANTE enabled console.
good From the Dominican Republic, I have the good fortune to barios of their products for example, the x32, the p1, the Ep4000, the xair18, among other products that have filled my spectacles, however I must clarify that it has been somewhat difficult because it Forgetting the translations and the subtitles in the product launches and in the use riviu, we urge you to put subtitles or translation into Spanish to the videos thanks from the Dominican Republic
Dear behringer Make compect digital audio mixer fully touch display in 16 and 24ch like qsc touchmix series really need this type of digital mixer in affordable price in India🇮🇳
Dear Santa i wish for Christmas a Daw Controller with midi and some Audio inputs like a soundcart with less 24 motorfaders from Behringer !!!The X touch is good but they is now almost 5 years old and since then there is nothing new on the Market !! Please Dear Santa make my dreams comes True :) Marry Christmas and Happy new Year to all Music Friends !!! 🎼🎹🎹 😁 💛💛
You covered the 'external' expansion card, which we already understand, but totally omitted to explain the 'internal' expansion, which is the thing we are all confused about! I want to have the Wing's network ports take Dante, (and keep the SD card 'external' option) - so how would I get my Wing delivered with that 'internal' Dante option in place?
For easy user access WING has the external card slot. The internal card can not be changed by the users. While it looks like plug and play it is actually more complicated: cables and a PCB have to get removed to access the internal expansion and an additional software has to be installed internally. You can get the internal card upgraded in a service center. And yes, it's possible to mix and match internal and external cards. For example two Dante cards or an internal Dante and an external Soundgrid card.
@@behringer will it be possible to route the input of soundgrid i/o devices to the wing input channels? using a soundgrid iox device as stagebox is than a possibility. the waves cards that I have in my sq7 has this option. if the same routing is possible I buy a wing directly
Now this. This is the way you make fans Behringer, not with the cheesy video clips. Here one can feel the care and the intention to provide in a reasonable frame.
Name-checked,YAY!! Damn - making the DAW feed post-processing puts this thing at another level. Cheers, guys, gotta start saving up now.
Thanks guys for more than 500 comments and questions to our WING release video. We compiled the most common questions and tried to answer them in this video:
0:18 - Latency and Parallel Processing
1:11 - DAW Control
2:04 - Internal and External Expansion Cards
2:36 - DCA Spill and Pop-Groups
3:06 - Multiband Compressor
3:34 - Ultranet and P16
3:51 - GPIO Ports
4:07 - Solo-In-Place
If you have more questions or want to see a specific just let us know in the comments!
Guys, this video requires subtitles. I struggled to create subtitles on my own, and here's the result of my work: amara.org/en/videos/NjY2LJl7XoY3/info/behringer-wing-faq-daw-dca-latency-expansion-cards-and-more/ . There are still multiple words I couldn't understand (trust me - I tried hard) so it requires some update from your side.
With no offence, you should offer pronunciation classes for some of your employes.
Thanks CieMaKat for your feedback! We'll look into what we can do better next time! :-)
I could only understand half of what he said... I kept double tapping rewind 🤦🏾♂️
Thanks for answering my question!
You didn’t answer all the questions.
Such as what how does MADI or DANTE work, as we see no ports for it?
Why USB 2.0, when USB C is becoming a standard, and has a higher bandwidth?
How does DAW control function?
Thank you very much for answering some questions in this video. You're not lying with the slogan "We hear you".
Regarding the expansion card: Pretty please do the Waves Soundgrid Expansion Card. As soon as its out there, I will upgrade from my X32 :D
Also: Maybe some AVB expansion card would be nice :) Would make it much easier to use the Wing as monitor console with a S3L at FOH :)
Please make a "little" wing
Uwe Baganz absolutely... I ordered a wing then cancelled it because it’s bigger than I need or can easily transport by myself. Currently using an M32r or X32 rack for live gigs.
Woosh!
@@MrStubat had today a gig with the m32c, and recorded it
A rackable Wing is exactly what i would want! STill deciding if to go A&H SQ5 if not.
I would gladly pay double for a version of the Wing (or Midas equivalent) that was studio focused for music and post production with:
96khz (ideally up to 192khz)
Comprehensive DAW control including dedicated transport functions and touch sensitive faders, colour and scribble strip follow, user assignable shortcuts and powerful plugin control
Comprehensive, intuitive and flexible surround monitoring functions (particularly for 7.1 up to ATMOS)
Bonus: HDMI I/O that passes through 4k video and extracts all audio for routing to whatever busses or monitors we choose (this would be an instant buy for many game audio professionals btw)
Please consider Thunderbolt 3, Dante, and Adat Expansion cards
yes and madi, but 32 bits 192KHz if enough processing power
Can you guys do a video with an example daw? And how you can use this in a recording studio? Can you use the plugins in real time, from the mixer to the daw. Using this as a controller and interface. You would have me sold on that. This is a pretty sweet mixer. Great job on it.
Sarah Prinsloo do you also have the wing ? And was the purpose to use it as in a home studio ? .. at least in my case, it’s frustrating to by something this expensive without any answers from Behringer!
That is exactly what I am waiting for as well. I want to buy it but I have no examples of how it will work with a DAW.
No, not yet. I have the PreSonus but I want to upgrade. If this is more versatile then the PreSonus. Then I will definitely get it.
@@sarahelizabeth1196 I have the Wing and i'm using it with logic pro x... i cant use my faders so far besides the one routed to my mic fader but i can use the efx and compressors going into my recording. hope this helps p.s. for in studio i wouldn't buy it yet
@@legionthelegend1 Is there any way we can chat. I've got some questions for how you set that up. kimballmcgary@gmail.com
I got hands on wing last week. Brilliant first impression, but a few things:
The DynamicEQ has no graphic view? Only virtual knobs?
The Patch-Situation: Is there a 1:1 patch button coming? Maybe for an AES Group-Pool to patch a S32 easily 1:1 to source 1-32?
What is the button down the wheel on the right bottom of the touchdisplay for?
96khz would be great... Maybe by using two aes lines to a Midas DL151?
Thx Behringer!
Impressive. I brought a Wing and it is on the way.
StageConnect to ultranet needs to happen ASAP. Also, a Dante expansion card needs to be released very soon. Cool board, but we at least need the same features as the X32.
You're awesome, Behringer. Would you consider a future, smaller "Winglet" for us who don't need so many channels? Same screen and quality, but half the size and channel count...you know what I mean! 😁👍
God bless you! 🙏
I can't understand half of what he's saying. Can we get this written down somewhere?
Quite bad english speaking I must admit too. Hard time to understand.
Any specific questions?
@@behringer compensation - so the insert point is not being compensated ?
Yes, I did not understand quite clearly what was said about ultranet....( and still can't...sorry)....
@@behringer yes, what are the final count on fader for DAW controller then? any plugin control via touch screen. thanks
How’s plugin controls on daw control mode? Compatibility for pro tools and others?
I hope they give us a video soon
I wish I needed this Mixer/Controller.
@Behringer Wing is really cool !!
what I'll say next doesn't relate to Wing, but I'll post it here since you are kindly reading and since you have touch UI:
Please, if possible, make a MIDI hardware sequencer with *touch screen* and multitrack piano roll . It would be great !
My question is, are you planning on making a new line of affordable desktop mixers as an upgrade to the current Xenyx line?
I'm probably too late to get an answer, but Wing looks great but it really exceeds my needs. I know it's still early days but there's definitely a market for a scaled down version of this too. Is that something we might see?
This is a very good product in my opinion, how ever a mini wing with thunderbolt 3 added to the expansion slot, it would be a hit i'm the first in line
I wish it had word clock input like the X Adat card has. It would be so much better if you had added a word clock in and out on the console, so you can lock to video sync. But it looks like there is no word clock input option at all at the moment. A word clock time code card would be a great addition. You could then record UP TO 48 TRACKS off one of the AES50 ports with a DN9630 and be locked to video sync.
Before laying down your hard earned money on this check out the Allen Heath SQ series. I was really anticipating the release of the so called successor to the X32 and Wing let me down to the point I stared to research what else is on the market.
Discovered the Allen Heath SQ and was so blown away I bought a SQ6. 48 channels, 96K , 0.7 latency across all channels running all plugins with phase coherency, Daw support with ASIO drivers for both PC and Mac. Outstanding sonic's. along with Dante and Waves card support.
Larry Schaeffer I appreciate the referral. Do you mind sharing what your A&H cost?
Would love one of these adapted for some studio. 8 channels. Audio/midi IO. Able to use onboard FX for pre-DAW processing. Control surface etc. Basically combine XTouch with a UA interface and effects.
Would absolutely love DCA spill to be added! This would be a game changer.
could you please explain? Tnx.
Hello Behringer Team!!
Do we ll ever see a compact or a producer size Wing "Mixer"?
I think most of homestudio producer is looking for a mixing console with all what you need (instead of have separate audio interface+ pre-amp+analog mixer) fully compatible with the most used DAW. I think it could be a Masterpiece for home studio!!
It would be amazing!
And if in the Tascam model 12 price range, it would not have any competition.
Add a MPC preset that would be beautiful
Would love to see another video going into detail about snippet playback on this console.
behringer could create a mixer for those who have many synthesizers and home studio. compact and with many nano knobs, like the Mooer pedals. 🙏🏻
Please make the front panel dark grey
When will you receive the Waves Sound Grid expansion card?
When will you release the rackmountable version of the Wing?
I get to really like the Wing. But i was shocked when i saw the fader movements when he changed banks. It looked slow and jittery somehow. Will this be fixed?
The faders are good. It looks like they're timed so they all stop moving at the same time, thus the faders that need to move the farthest move the fastest
Tino Schulz Yes, they looked really bad in the video. I’m surprised that hasn’t been addressed.
@@artysanmobile Are you talking about at 2:58 in this video??
Robert Bardwell No. 1:45.
@@artysanmobile That is reflecting the DAW automation. If the fader automation is jagged in the DAW, (often happens when people create automation curves with a mouse), then the fader movement on the WING should match what you see in the DAW.
I just purchased this unit new on reverb and I gotta say... I'm extremely concerned with the lack of explanation about DAW integration (specifically Logic). Please @behringer open your mouth about this and put out some videos, or updates on firmware releases. It's very odd for you to keep dodging this topic or only glossing over it with 20-second explanations. 3500 dollars for a cutting edge console released in 2019/2020 without daw support or explanation is a bit like buying a tesla with no charging port. YOU MUST TALK TO US ABOUT DAW INTEGRATION! Now that I've done my share of cyberbullying for the day... Thank you for releasing this unit. It is exciting and I'm positive it's completely loaded with incredible and useful features. Unfortunately I made my purchase before I fully realized it doesn't have DAW support or explanations. I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO WAIT if this matters to you.
So excited to buy this thing!
Seriously need that in Black ! Nice !
Do you plan on releasing the Dante expansion card at the same time as the board?
Please explain how to set up DAW remote on WING also expand on how this feature is different and improved from the X32/M32 DAW remote.
When is Daw support coming for studio use , I’ve got my wing today... 3200 dollar and no support at release... you guys have been pretty wage with info regarding studio/daw support , not all people buying it and meant to use it for live... how long do we have to wait to get studio support ? Otherwise I’m thinking of returning it within my 30 day period!
Thankful for answers!
DAW support is a big thing, I hope they help us out soon
Had the same problem with the X32 it's not really a DAW mixer. Took me weeks to simply inset an effect that I could hear in the daw, IE guitar amp insert to track in DAW. You have to go via the AES channels!! As a live engineer I fail to see the problem with inserting an effect I assumed this would be sent wherever you send the track post fade! As in that's what post fade means. The card outputs are locked to pre fade even when you select post fade. I also tried coming out of the buss and into a second channel on aux 1 still no luck.
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The per channel single dynamic EQ instead of the gate is a really cool feature. I had hoped for more but I will definitely use it. Thanks for answering my question! I have more :) Are the FX slot multiband compressors considered "Premium" or "Standard" FX processors? Does that mean a maximum 16 mono multiband inserts in either case?
+1,I would be interested in this, too!
Does the Wing have dedicated FX returns like the X32, or is this handled differently?
As others have stated, please do a video showing comprehensive DAW control for each of the major DAWs.
Thanks for your suggestion. Have you checked out the documentation that came with the WING DAW update (included in the firmware download)? There are detailed instructions how to set it up, a table that shows you you exactly which functions are on which button on WING plus you can modify that and create your own preset. Hope that helps!
Hi :)
I have two questions.
First: Why there are so many effects, e.g. all the compressors, only available as replacements? I want to use them as insert, too - please. :) E.g. to use two compressors in one chain.
Second: Would two buss's be in phase, as long as they get the same signals and no inserts were used? E.g. for two busses of drums for parallel compression.
Thank's a lot.
@behringer are you planning on making a smaller version of the WING??
Is/will there be ADAT out port(s)? Vielen dank!
That right there would make this machine a dream
ADAT is crucial for anyone who wants to use his or her existing ADAT-capable soundcards with the WING
nAbend zusammen. Ich bleibe mal beim Deutschsprech, dann bin ich schneller fertig... ;-) Hier wäre erst einmal mein persönlicher Fragekatalog:
- Die Sache mit den fest den Inputs zugeordneten Sources sieht unpraktisch aus, wenn die Instrumente falsch aufgesteckt werden sollten. Könnte man die in dem Fall neu zuordnen? (Andernfalls scheint man alles neu anlegen zu müssen (Beschriftung, Farbe, M/st/m-s, Tags, Patch zum Kanal sowieso)
- Kann man mehrere aufeinanderfolgende Sources auf einmal patchen, vgl. zu DiGiCo-Ripple-Funktion?
- Gibt es Patchpunkte die man nicht insertieren kann? Ist der Insert Postfade-tauglich?
- welche Sidechainmöglichkeiten gibt es? (auch bei DynEQ im Kanal und evtl. Dynamics im FX-Rack?)
- lässt sich in den Bussen eine M/S-(De-)Codierung und die Stereobasisbreitenregelung nutzen?
- hat es ein Delay in den Bussen? Und lassen sich die Delays in Stereokanälen/Bussen L/R verschieden einstellen, um sie z.B. für Laufzeitstereophonie nutzen oder um Unterschiede kompensieren zu können?
- wie flüssig ist die Copy/Paste-Funktion zu handhaben?
Nun hätte ich noch folgende Ideen ;-):
- DCA-Gruppen um die meisten Kanalzug-Parameter erweitern, welche als Master die gesetzten Kanaleinstellungen, z.B. Dynamic-Thresholds oder Auxe relativ zueinander gleichbleibend verändern (Beispiel: Die im Soundcheck gesetzten Kanalkompressoren der Vocals machen bei vollem Haus und lautem Publikum zu früh zu, der Drummer kann nun höhere Gate-Tresholds und mehr Ambi-FX vertragen) (vgl. DiGiCo Multichannel, aber über die DCA-Gruppen)
- Eine frei konfigurierbare Meteringseite im Editor / App, welche auch GainReduction-Anzeigen des FX-Racks zur Verfügung stellt, so dass man seine wichtigsten Pegel und Dynamics immer übersichtlich im Blick hat
- ein Adapter für X32-Karten würde vermutlich viele freuen, auch wenn dann nur 32 I/O zur Verfügung stehen - oder ein Adapter auf MY-Karten... (duckundweg :D )
- ein LoudnessMeter dBLUFS mit Verlaufsanzeige und kalibrierbares dBALEQ-Meter im FX-Rack
- FX-PlugIn für die Verwendung von Doppelmembrankapseln mit Einzelabgriff (mkh800twin, LCT640TS u.ä.) oder Polarflex-Anordnungen zum Variieren der Richtcharakteristik
So, genug für heute. Viel Spass beim tüfteln und danke für den frischen Wind auf dem Markt. Gruss
AES50 for EURORACK
now that Behringer is getting serious about Eurorack Modular, it would be time to get into bringing serious digital mixing solutions too, like for example an AES50 stage-box with 24 or 48 inputs and oupts in MiniJack Format so that we can go into complex mixing and patching. Please Behringer, only YOU can do it !
Je viens de la commander chez Thomann. Je l'attends avec impatience.
Merci pour ce formidable jouet.... Je vais vendre ma X32, garder mon S32 et peut-être mon X32-Core pour les petits concerts.
Merci et bravo...
Fred
Hi , About the Card Slots: Will there be a possibility for the user to Access the internal Card Slot? I think I goud idea should be Dante and Waves internally and a MADI, Dante, ADAT Card for external Slot. Many thanks for this great product :)
For easy user access WING has the external card slot.
The internal card can not be changed by the users. While it looks like plug and play it is actually more complicated: cables and a PCB have to get removed to access the internal expansion and an additional software has to be installed internally.
You can get the internal card upgraded in a service center.
And yes, it's possible to mix and match internal and external cards. For example two Dante cards or an internal Dante and an external Soundgrid card.
@@behringer where and when can I buy a dante card?
Have you thought about updating the X-Touch? It would be excellent to have an X-touch with the shape of the wing but more focused as a control surface for home studios, something similar to the SSL Nucleus (control surface + dante audio interface, 2 pre-amps, 2 monitors, 2 headphones, talckback ) but with the shape, the 24 faders of the wing and an affordable price (the nucleus is expensive).
Hochi Orrillo My EXACT thoughts ! X-touch seems so outdated and bulky now... We need a cheaper Wing Studio Edition (no standalone mixer nor audiocard and fx needed, just Deep DAW and VST/AU control). Someting better than Softube’s console1 series. And also a BCR2000 MK2! About time Behringer. Are you really listening?
What is the 31 band graphic equalizer simulating? *
Please tell me the copy paste
Does the Wing-Live card record 64 mono or stereo channels via SD / USB?
Is it possible to stream multichannel audio from the SD card, send it through the mixer and then record it on the SD as a multichannel file again, at the same time?
Hello. The Wing and Ableton seem to work ok together. What I can not figure out is how to get WIng to do what most audio/midi interfaces will do, which is sync / start / stop Ableton with my external sequencer(Squarp). ether slave or master, do the midi ports have any purpose/support yet?
Please, if possible, make the Aux channels full channels (with compression at least)
I am interested in the scenes function of this board. Is it possible to have fade or transition time between scenes? The lack of this function in the X32/M32 prevents me from ever using scenes in a live setting even though I know from use on other boards that they can be extremely powerful
Personally id want an expansion card that adds a dual sata slot for using two high capacity ssd's. Also not sure if it can do midi sequencing onboard but being able to sequence various outboard gear could be very useful for live performance usage given everything else it can do.
Why does Behringer build a mixing console like the WING, for which you need 6 stage boxes so that you can use the full potential of this machine? The Behringer Wing costs around 2700 euros. A stagebox almost 500 euros. This results in a total price of approx. 5000 euros. Does everyone know who wants to get a wing?
One other question/comment that you probably can't answer at this point; are there any plans for a rack version similar to the X32 rack? I own two and find them incredibly useful and easy to transport for smaller / fly gigs. I also love that my stage box can be a monitor console. I'll probably continue to use my X32 rack in this fashion with the wing, but more inputs is always helpful! Thanks!
@BEHRINGER None of my questions were covered so I would like a reply: Can Wing have a backplane Master and Slave Wing "joiner" buss (linking sends & phones?) Will it get 96K support or not or is that the MIDAS Heritage D Touch/AIR product? Any 48 Fader BigWing? or only using Midi HUI/MUI Mackie option from third party?
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HI! GREAT JOB BEHRINGER. CAN I PAN THE WIDTH OF A CHANNEL DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT BUSSES ? LIKE 50% ON THE MAIN BUS AND 20% ON THE BROADCAST BUS.
WHAT ABOUT MID-SIDE PROCESSING? IS THERE ANY PLUGINS INCLUDED FOR IT?
What I'm still confused about is the multitrack recording capabilities.I have not seen any videos on if you can edit tracks from the touch screen? Does it just record tracks and you can't edit? so you have all these tracks in your computer that you want to upload and doing multitrack mixing session. Can you do that?all my questions have to do with the standalone multitrack capabilities.
Please, i cant do multitrack recording on my windows pc with the wing.
Only 2in, 2out
Any help please?
How can i record 481in48out from the wing on my windows laptop?
Hay funciones de yamaha LS9 muy practicas cuando, por ejemplo en teatro, la produccion no necesita de un operador, ya que se trata de pistas de audio incidentales. Funcion de linckeo de escenas con el reproductor de audio para que éste reproduzca un archivo de audio llamando una escena. Tambien la automatizacion de fader sobre tiempo. Esas dos funciones(y seguramente alguna que otra mas) a un click de boton y sin necesidad de complementos externos, harian de las X32 y Wing dispositivos mas autonomos, sin necesidad de agregar PC, software u otro aparato. Cabe destacar que dichas funciones no existe en en ningun modelo en el rango de precios de X/M32 o Wing . . .
Will the current app of Mx-q work with the wing? If not is there an app that will allow users the ability to mix there in ears like we are currently able to do with the Midas and other Behringer consoles!?
Is the x-adat card able to work on the wing? And if so... Would it be possible to use 2 x-adat cards for 64 channel recording via adat?
Am I to understand this correctly? No delay compensation within the mix busses? Afaik the X/M series has it, why not the Wing? Parallel (Drum) Compression alone is a good reason to have delay compensation all around imho...
Or is this a feature coming in a later software version?
Beautifully crafted and empowering design. BHERINGER has always been wright were we need them.Very intresting gear, the sort thing you might loos sleep over, live check to check to get? Sell your intire studio? and or Max out your credit card,but will it be worth the sacrifice? Connectivity is priorty. USB 3 ,SPIDIF, Intergration and summing capability How will the WING by BERINGER perfom with common gear in a personal and or pro studio inviorment. You have great design impulssive selling appeal it looks intuitive now inspire us; close the sale with Intergration, Flexability and connectivity. Andre M Brown Linkedin influencer.
Any plans for an ADAT expansion card, please? That would be great for many studio users.
hey, did you guys have an idea how the soundgridcard will be implemented ? will I be able to receive the input channels of a ... for instance a digigrid iox ( =soundgrid interface ). If I understand well the xm32 could send/receive i/o via the wsg card to/from the soundgrid server, but was not able to receive an input signal from another i/o-hardware in this soundgrid-network. some manufacters makes this possible ... will yyou guys too ?
So when should we expect the internal expansion cards? im most interested in the internal waves expansion card.
and can the 2 insertslots onm the channel be used to insert up till 64 channels of waves plugins directly
Please explain the difference between "Touch Sensitive" Fader compared to Behringers. Are they Midas Pro Faders?
@BEHRINGER awesome to see a dynamic eq! will that have side chain input? now if we can have saturation and most of all a vocal rider on each CH. we won't need waves rack.
+1
Will the wing be compatible with dl 251 or 151 or any of the other midas stage boxes other than the dl32?
uuuuhhh... yeah. but how do you get audio in to protools with this thing? it's marketed as a 48 channel audio interface; however there is a complete lack of any information on how to set it up as such. I have devolved into panicked random screen tapping in the various routing menus... Little help here guys! :)
Can the Wing Play MP3s Files over USB/Record a Stereo Main per USB in wav or mp3?
How do you route aux inputs of my keyboards to outputs and faders??????
Hi guys. What’s the best way of adding more pre’s for studio use?
Ni, hoy many Channels can i use or controler at The same time? 144 ni total using all 3 aes50 Connection?
Hi, I'm french, so sorry for my english!!!
Like I said to you, I'm waiting for the Wing in the few days. I'm so excited...
I have a suggestion for you. I like to use Vintage Eq after gate and before compressor and to use graphic Eq after all. I'm a X32/X32-Core user, and I do that with the both...
Could you please look at this idea to let us the possibility to have the choice between insert bus or a fourth plugin in the chain per channel?
I hope it is possible to do that without sicrify the latence of the Wing.
Have a nice day,
Frederic
Your English is better than that of most of us Americans!
Hi there how we can flip the eq to feders
And how we can make a tap dely on custom controls
So I can track all my songs Into the wing mix em in it and can save them all without using an Computer?
Would it be possible to run to both DANTE and MADI at the same time? We are building a new OB Trailer for Sports and Live Events. The BlackMagic ATEM Constellation runs MADI audio but we would also like to have the ability to include DANTE to make it simple in a concert environment to quickly and simply pull all the individual channels into our desk for recording and mixing from the Live FOH desks from the main Audio contractors, most of who will have a DANTE enabled console.
post fader recording to daw..?
Danke
You can choose multiple tap-points, for example post-dynamics, post-EQ or post-fader! So yes, possible! :-)
What is the roundtrip latency for the audio interface? Thank you!
He said 1ms fom input to output, so round trip would be at most 2 ms I suppose.
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UAD card and integration partner up. Win win win....
please implement waves soundgrid
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Hello, what is going on with Dante?
Does it have zero latency moniroting?
This desk requires DANTE!!
Will I be able to use onboard processing as daw controller?
Dear behringer Make compect digital audio mixer fully touch display in 16 and 24ch like qsc touchmix series really need this type of digital mixer in affordable price in India🇮🇳
Es posible mostrar cómo enlazarlala con más interfaces de audio mediante adat?
Dear Santa i wish for Christmas a Daw Controller with midi and some Audio inputs like a soundcart with less 24 motorfaders from Behringer !!!The X touch is good but they is now almost 5 years old and since then there is nothing new on the Market !! Please Dear Santa make my dreams comes True :) Marry Christmas and Happy new Year to all Music Friends !!! 🎼🎹🎹 😁 💛💛
Adat card please !!
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I hate you for not telling me about this console 4 months ago.
You covered the 'external' expansion card, which we already understand, but totally omitted to explain the 'internal' expansion, which is the thing we are all confused about! I want to have the Wing's network ports take Dante, (and keep the SD card 'external' option) - so how would I get my Wing delivered with that 'internal' Dante option in place?
For easy user access WING has the external card slot.
The internal card can not be changed by the users. While it looks like plug and play it is actually more complicated: cables and a PCB have to get removed to access the internal expansion and an additional software has to be installed internally.
You can get the internal card upgraded in a service center.
And yes, it's possible to mix and match internal and external cards. For example two Dante cards or an internal Dante and an external Soundgrid card.
@@behringer So will the initial product shipments not include the internal Dante or SG option at all?
@@behringer will it be possible to route the input of soundgrid i/o devices to the wing input channels? using a soundgrid iox device as stagebox is than a possibility. the waves cards that I have in my sq7 has this option. if the same routing is possible I buy a wing directly
Can The Record @ 24/96 ?
Does it work in Reason Studios ???
Wowza, for $3,500, it looks like it's definitely worth it.
Just you wait until I'm successful and don't need $3,500. Just you wait :P
Justin Omoi They’re waiting, I assure you.
Can you use 60 inputs And 60 outputs using stageboxes
Guys! Open the subs up!