F4F | Choosing the God of My Encounter
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None of the key biblical figures ever “positioned” themselves to have an encounter with God. Yeah, try telling that to the Apostle Paul who was struck down off of his horse and blinded by Jesus while on his way to persecute the church. He sure prepared himself for that. Thank you for this video and for exposing these teachers, Chris.
This Doctrine Has About The Same Amount Of Truth As The Beatles' Doctrine Of,,, Wait For It..... "We All Live In A Yellow Submarine!!!"
Thank you JESUS for this channel
Anyone else notice that there is no bible on the podium? You want a relationship with God you want an encounter with God read your bible.
Can't tell you how much I look forward to your videos! After being in Catholicism, Baptist, spirit-filled (many variants of this), and now back in the baptist church, I find there is much I do not know as far as doctrine and theology, and properly reading the Word of God. Knowing this more than ok, is also a huge burden that has been taken off of me as well. I learn something new each time and am "un-learning" a lot of the man-made doctrines that have been taught to me over the years. Thanks for all you do and keep Fighting for the Faith! :)
You spoke exactly word for word my same experience. I couldn't have said it better myself. So I just echo you and thank Chris too. I'm learning to study the Bible in a proper way after all these years. What a relief! God bless you Chris!
Another great video! Thank you for your ministry.
This stuff just feeds the beast of narcissism. It does everything but encourage the concept of dying to self and taking up our cross. Jesus taught hard truths. We will never learn to glorify God through this blasphemous lie that God exists for us.
Emily, Amen and well said......
THEY SERVE ANOTHER GOD NOT THE TRUE GOD OF THE BIBLE
Thanks for doing these videos! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at all the crazy stuff going on in the body of Christ.
Pr. Rosebrough , have you ever done research on wackadoodle preachers in mainstream denominations, even more closer to home, Lutheran.
Also, giant red flag... this guy quotes "Pastor Chad" more than the Bible. GIANT red flag.
Thanks again Chris, I really appreciate you're considered and consistent approach to these teachings, which so easily work their way into the church. Keep it up!
Good job Chris Rosebrough. As always I enjoy your videos
This is wild. I have always just come to Jesus humbly in prayer and thoughfully and humbly to the Scriptures. I grow closer to God by knowing the Scriptures and by the grace of Christ. When you dwell in Scripture and walk with Jesus when you encounter a problem and seek answers in Scripture and prayer God communicates. When you land on the answers while reading and praying one just "knows" that you have received God's instruction. He doesn't zap answers down from heaven and the "communication" of the Old Testament and the New Testament beyond Jesus's witnessed resurrection is different. The reason it is different is because we are told after resurrection to seek God through Jesus and His Living Word. People who teach like this guy make people who look to him for teaching just makes people discouraged, angry and faithless when they don't see burning bushes or hear God's audible voice like a sports announcer. This makes me sad that so many are being led away.😪
Have you read The Unseen Realm by Dr Michael Heiser? There may be another interpretation of ‘other gods’ - demons/members of the divine council that rebelled against God (see Psalm 82).
Just curious - an interesting read :)
So I just need to position myself this way, and position my heart this way, and then...ya know what, Bible study just requires prayer and reading...that is all the encounter I need and none of the positioning calisthenics!
Everytime i read the Living Word of God i have an encounter with God. Now this is not feeling based or glory clouds or any other type of expectation. My encounters are faith based. To trust God and His Word and not "feel" anything are my greatest experiences. When i don't "feel" His presence and still lift my hands and worship and trust that He will provide pleases our Father more than any other "encounter" we could have with Him!! When these groups like the NAR seek physical manifestations they are setting themselves up for a potential demonic "encounter" for example the shaking and wailing and laughing encounters i believe are Hindu deceptions in disguise. Remember satan knows how to make you "feel" good and this is the trap...especially if we do not understand the role of the Holy Spirit and His ability to inoculate us from deceptive "encounters".
Overall good, and usually I don’t disagree with a point, but actually, the “gods” the pagans like Baal, Dagon, or Zeus, DO exist. However, they are NOT gods, but FALLEN ANGELS who posed as gods. Fallen angels are not the same as demons; angelic beings have bodies of their own which are more physical than we are, knowing more than just the 3-dimensions which we perceive. Thus, as interdimensional beings, they easily duped the pagans into worshipping them as gods.
Lol what are you talking about? This is not found in scripture.
Kyradrin The apostle Paul clearly says to the church at Corinth, “The things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to DEVILS and not to God,” overtly calling the gods of the ancients fallen angels. Also, read over the 10 commandments, one commandment being “Thou shalt not have any other gods before Me,” and a separate commandment being, “Thou shalt not make for thyself any graven image,” thus distinguishing pagan gods from mere idols. Furthermore, you can read of the goings-on of the fallen angels before the Flood in Genesis 6 in which they raped human women and had hybrid children by them, thus giving us the stories of Zeus and Leta, Apollo and his human lover, etc, etc. The ancient mythologies are the remains of primitive truth corrupted in transmission. The true, historical account is found in the Bible regarding the true identity of the so-called “gods” of the ancients.
My "brother" turned from fundamental baptist to charismatic, because he got prayed over and layed hands upon, in a prayer for God's fire to baptise Him. He was so impressed with what he had experienced, he is willing to move to a different state with his wife to take part in a year long seminary.
In Hoc Signo Vinces When Jesus said He would baptize with fire, this means He will judge people with fire, which is eternal torment in hell. John the Baptist said Jesus will baptize with the Holy Spirit AND fire. One is for believers, the other is for unbelievers.
Feelings or experiences do not dictate truth. Feelings can deceive, and experiences can do likewise. Not so with the Bible, which is objective, perfect, external revelation from God.
PaulSterling Experience is all we can rely on, in a cautious manner. Always being aware that our experience only gives us as much insight as the experience is intended to reveal. Certainly the prophets and the apostles were very sure of the clarity of their experiences, but as you've pointed out, experience can be deceiving. It is however the only source we can truly, if cautiously, rely on, in our pursuit of truths.
Not so Paul,fire is cleansing us from dead works when Jesus judges his children when He returns.''1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Narismatic! Good one, Chris! That is why I appreciate men like you, who start with the scriptures. Someone like John MacArthur, who exegete through the Bible and such...
Did he say "tear apart God's Word"? He sure did manage to do that. Tore it up and threw it out. Obviously.
It is wild untamed, lack of self control groups like the NAR that taint the true gifts of the Spirit like tongues for personal edification and tongues and interpretation.
F T F you are doing a top job ... THANKYOU
As in the garden and marketing 101 to sell something to someone who doesn't need it ,youve got to beguile people into thinking their,s more ,I'm missing out on something. What I have mustn't be enough. You need what I have I have secret knowledge.
Super vague message from this guy, he's just preaching buzz words and seemingly spiritual jargon while at the same time saying nothing other than needing to "encounter God." GUESS What Mr. Mott, the cross of calvary did that for us, Jesus sacrificial work on the cross was sufficient to bring us to encounter God without needing anything else. The apostle Paul said it so well, "For I resolved to know nothing (to be acquainted with nothing, to make a display of the knowledge of nothing, and to be conscious of nothing) among you except Jesus Christ (the Messiah) and Him crucified."
Position yourself as Saul to persecute saints to have encounter with Jesus!!... position yourself ??? I agree with Chris
This guy is like a discount, less liberal mark ruffalo.
Why do the churches pretty much go for black backgrounds and blue lighting? Must be something the early Church did, right?
I agree there is descriptive and prescriptive scripture. So I ask, why do you skip to and fro the gospel of the kingdom and then to the dispensation of grace. 2 Timothy 2:15 tells us to rightly divide the word of truth. Kjv
My question is, what God is he talking about? He certainly can't be talking about the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob though that's what he said. As Pastor Roseboro pointed out correctly what this fella is talking about as characteristic do not correlate whatsoever with the true God Of Heaven.
Hey, I actually agree with something this false prophet or teacher said, he said as we or We are, tearing apart God's word. I agree with that he is tearing apart God's word but if you stop and think about what tearing apart is, it is in the aftermath , a piece here , the peace there , and none of them a hook together, number one bad idea oh, God frowns on that.
They never never explain how to do all this stuff, they never make it clear. This stuff is terrible! !!!
Say, Mike Mott...would it kill you to use the Bible?!
THE NAR ALSO PLAY IN THE SPIRIT REALM AND JESUS ALONG WITH ANGELS AND THE SAINTS JUST LIKE KAT KERR AND SUNDAR SELVARAJ SUDHU THEY KNOW RICK JOYNER TOO = WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THEM OH THEY ALL HAVE BEEN TO HEAVEN ALSO
Elizabeth, could you clarify your meaning? do you mean they "CLAIM" to have been to Heaven? because they have not... they have not been to Heaven. That is a lie.
YES THEY ALL CLAIM THEY HAVE BEEN TO HEAVEN AND MET GOD JESUS ANGELS AND SAINTS = I TOLD THEM THEY WHERE LIEING BUT TOLD ME I AM OF THE DEVIL
+Elizabeth Ashby - Kerr, Sundar and Joiner are heretics, and Joiner is the worst of the bunch - and you can research this: No only does Rick Joiner "play" a Christian 'Pastor', he's a member of the Knights of Malta and they worship Lucifer..Joiner is playing one side against the other, and he going to get burnt - literally. Sundar is always in the videos with Jim Bakker spewing more heresies, and Kat Kerr, well, her nonsense speaks for itself. NONE of them appear to have ANY fear of God..the TRUE Lord God Jesus Christ! None of them..and many more like this guy in this video..making up his own Doctrine of Demons. Beware of them all!
THANK YOU WE NEED A GOOD PROGRAM TO SHOW THESE HERETICS BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE WHAT I SAY AFTER ALL I AM A WOMAN THEY TRUST A MAN MORE THAN ME AND I DONT BLAME THEM FOR EVE WAS DECEIVED BUT ADAM WAS NOT HOP YOU GET THE POINT
Elizabeth Ashby Sister, check out the series by Justin Peters called Clouds without water. It will bless you.
I hope that you'll realize these men never mention the early appossles. They don't want you to see that through the appossles great signs and wonders was done by the appossles. These men are they aware of the book of acts. False teachers. We're still under the appossles doctrine. That what I do. So when you are baptized in the holy spirit is that not an encounter with God? The Holy Ghost is God and he is always with us.
The Bibel is full of descriptions of people having direct and personal, life changing experiences with God. Why shouldn't people expect the same thing today, and what is it worth to become a scholar, with no direct and profound experience of the Divine? I maintain that faith without experience is foolish.
In Hoc Signo Vinces Because that was for the purpose of revelation, which is complete and preserved for us in the Scriptures. The signs and gifts that accompanied those men have long ceased, and now we have the more sure and more perfect Word of God.
“Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.”
Hebrews 1:1-2
The Apostle Peter saw Jesus Christ in His transfiguration. He saw Him literally shedding His humanity aside for a moment, and He beheld some of His divine glory. Yet Peter said that the Bible is more trustworthy than his experience was. That is how sure the Bible is, that is the level of truthfulness it possesses. To belittle this is the height of ungratefulness toward God.
“For when he received honor and glory from God the Father, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased," we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”
2 Peter 1:17-21
PaulSterling I don't see these verses contradicting direct experience today to normal people. If there's nothing to experience (to witness) then why should anyone believe a word within that book?
It would seem that everything you base your faith on is encounters then.
Tom bahr, is one thing for certain, the scripture is make it plain that the just shall live by faith. You want to experience and feel everything that you believe therefore you are not living by faith, bad place to be.
Experience of the divine? That’s not the gospel. This man is a false teacher and this pastor is proving it with Bible verses . He is backing it up with God’s word. This man is a fraud!
Okay you are big on scripture, answer this one,.... Where in the word does it say, that Apostles, prophets etc will fade away,.. chapter and verse please????
Where in the bible does it say that there are apostles and prophets today?
When you answer that, think and consider what apostles and prophets were, what was their function chronologically in the advancement of the gospel.
"In 1 Corinthians 12:28, Paul says, “God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers.” That statement adds weight not only to the idea of divine calling but also to the chronological significance (“first, … second, … third”) in the giving of these gifted men to the church."
21 Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, 22 beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.” Acts 1:21
Apostles were ocular witnesses of Jesus' life on earth, his ministry from the baptism of John the Baptist to Christ' resurrection.
If it is chronological then why did you leave out the rest of the verse, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. So then signs and wonders came after the teachers?
Hahaha love it...
I think the problem I am having is that everyone and anyone today can claim to be a prophet or apostle. There are schools teaching how to be one and for $300 you can be one too. You will get a nice certificate to prove it. If you search on you tube any day of the week "prophecy for today" there will be hundreds of so called prophets giving a word just for you for today. Of course every word for that day will be conflicting. It really is nonsense. None of them mention repentance. Isn't that what prophets in the bible did? If these guys really believed what they say is from God they would call people to repentance, preach the gospel and plead for people to listen. I think it is just a money making business. It is profitable to have the title prophet or apostle.
I used to pray alot and would encounter supernatural experiences with dreams or signs etc, but I later realized thanks to youtube, that those encounters weren't from God but a matter a fact, from the enemy. So I am against these kind of teachings and testimonies.
Every healing in scripture,...what did it sound and look like???? So, you reckon healings, prophets, apostles etc died out,..... ??? And what gospel is that?? Jesus said these signs will follow those who believe,??? What does walking in the Spirit look like???
God Says Ministries House of Fire Did you know that Mark 16:9-20 does not appear in the earliest manuscripts? And yes, miraculous sign gifts died out with the apostles. They were there to authenticate the message given to the apostles, and are no longer needed.
Corinthians 2:14. The more of these videos I watch the more this verse I ref. comes to mind. They use their natural mind and you can even hear their puffed up wisdom in their own eyes. As if they have come to the revelation of the deepness of Gods word on their own intelligence. Even what he is doing he cannot find a scripture to say, "make a youtube account and call these false teachers out." What about going directly to these men and discussing with them personally what they believe. He calls out these men and woman for using the word for money gain but he himself will ask for your financial support at the end of his videos.
Explain AB Bowhunter czcams.com/video/DJXBYY8vnVE/video.html
Amen there are no other gods! Jesus Christ our risen savior and Lord IS the ONLY God. What is this guy talking about? Like he believes that other people are having encounters with other gods?
pity. kokj has recorded great messianic songs with sound biblical theology. their leaders however leave much to be desired...
His message sounds like something that Paula White teaches, doesn't she say that you have to "position yourself", ?????. He doesn't read God's Word, he must be listening to too many nar preachers.
Great job again parsing out the NAR nonsense going on everywhere and just plain unbiblical teaching. But what else can we expect from those seeking signs and wonders ... Jesus had so little patience with that type and gave them the sign of Jonah.
My dilemma is, I can't trust the Bible, mainly the OT, because in Genesis alone there's so much nonsense in it. I do however have had experiences which I would classify as spiritual and supernatural, which led me to believe in Jesus to begin with. But now I doubt these experiences (dreams, remarkable synchronicities, temporary heart change) for reasons that are very difficult to describe. I'm sure there is one God, but I'm very uncertain that I can truly know Him and His will. All there is left for me, is to pray and beg Him to lead me through my mind, intuition and heart.
In Hoc Signo Vinces You claim to believe in Jesus yet you judge and reject one of the very books He quoted from, Genesis.
I would like to know your presuppositions when approaching the book of Genesis. Have you been taught that the big bang and evolution are real, and therefore you stand over Genesis judging the very words of God as "nonsense"? Do you think it has contradictions, or that it is not "scientific" enough?
I'd like to know the prejudices you approach Genesis with, I'm trying to help.
You cannot know God apart from His perfect, inerrant Word, the Bible. If you try and be led by your mind, you should know the Bible commands us to renew our wicked minds (Romans 12:2), so being guided by your fallen and sinful mind will be no good. You should know the Bible says the heart is wicked and deceitful above all things, so much that no one can understand it (Jeremiah 17:9). And last, you should know that intuition has led many to believe that God is speaking to them while in reality it is no one but Satan, examples: Joseph Smith, Muhammad, Ellen White, Montanus, Benny Hinn, etc. All those are either cult leaders or false religions.
You cannot have a relationship with God when you call His written Word "nonsense", you will not get to know Him outside of the Bible. Repent from judging the Bible, for standing above it and saying what is true and what isn't about it. Read Psalm 19 please.
+ In Hoc Signo Vinces
There are "types and shadows" of Jesus all through the Old Testament. To go further, places where things happened in the Old Testament: Noah's Ark, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Red Sea that was parted for Moses - these sites and relics from them have been found. Check out videos on here about Ron Wyatt. You cannot believe that ANY of the Bible is "nonsense" and love Christ. God Almighty made Himself flesh in the man Christ Jesus. They're one and the same..that's in the Old Testament. You believe God and His word or you don't. You can't love Christ and call Him a liar and call His own word "nonsense"..that's hypocrisy!
Jesus trusted the Old Testament, but you can’t?
PaulSterling You imply that I'm a liar, which ended the exchange before it began. Everything else would be a waste of my time.
AB_Bowhunter Not if God is the Logos, because many things in Genesis aren't logical. Instead of me pointing out the obvious, why don't you read it more carefully?