I went back to the previous list for top 10 WUBRG identity cards. Your prediction 4 years ago about Jegantha gaining a whole bunch of points was accurate.
I really like that you put Compulsive Golem and Conflux in the intro. I know you did it on purpose! I also had a 5 colour deck with those cards, others, and Porgenitus when I was younger.
If that’s a thing. 4 color has the smallest card pool of any color identity by a massive margin, so there may not even be 10 cards in the whole game that have points on this.
There's only 14 cards: the 5 Nephilim, the 5 4-color Commanders from the 4-color set, Omnath of Creation, one of the Aragorns from the LotR commander set, the new Atraxa and the 14th Doctor. Only Omnath and new Atraxa are legal in anything but Vintage/Legacy, and most of them weren't played in those formats anyway. There's no point to making the list.
While I didn't expect anything else, I'm kind of sad that one of my least favourite cards in magic got the number one spot, the vanilla 5/5 that people only play because there's literally no reason not to.
I was actually looking forward to this list, since EDH usually has so little to do these Best of...lists, but it made me wonder then, in other formats, how valuable do WUBRG cards tend to be? In EDH, they are both helpful, and hindering, since you need those mana identity pips to be able to add other cards of those colors, and with 99 cards, you have more room, in a slower format, to stuff in the mana base WUBRG needs, but in other formats, they do almost seem like they would be more liability, with smaller decks, fewer unique names needed, and such. Cool to see how they fare with more freedom, but possibly less support.
@@stigmaoftheroseGolos found your best land, essentially helped pay for his own commander tax, and had a mana sink that allows cheating out big spells. Not to mention, Golos wasn't very flexible for building as he only was able to be 5 color good stuff. Kenrith has a bit of versatility and just provides abilities to use. Golos was much more ubiquitous as a commander.
@nicholas8739 kenrith, in my experience, is always played as a 5 color good stuff reanimator that only needs white and black mana to ruin a game for everyone else. If you don't have exile based removal there is literally nothing you can do to stop him from simply reanimating the most bullshit creatures from all 5 colors for way less than their casting cost.
@@stigmaoftheroseSo play a healthy amount of graveyard hate, which everyone should be doing in every deck anyways. Exile their graveyard once at the right time and they’re probably never coming back.
Enduring ideal...i ran that for awhile with hivemind to lock everyone into playing only enchantments lol only got it of a few tims expensive cmc jank. i play commander though
Is there lists for the BEST Modern Cards in Magic: the Gathering? Or perhaps even the BEST 10 Cards in all of Magic: the Gathering, using the same point system. Such lists would be amazing imo
I think it’s also noteworthy that even if you can’t cast jengantha, if your deck allows him he reduces your deck limit to 59, making it just a wee bit more consistent
14:31 You mentioned he can gain YOU 5 life but then target player draws a card. My buddy built Kenrith as a commander with the intent on making opponents "gain" life with Tainted Remedy. Of course, it's not the decks only win con, but it sure is his favorite! Lol.
Kenrith was always a card I could pick up late in MTGO drafts. He wasn't the most powerful thing around, but he often came down, only required one white mana and could contribute. Late game, with lots of mana, I would love casting him, using black activation once or twice, then the red activation. gg
At our table I used to run a janky landwalk deck with a ton of 2 drops of each landfall (except plains, I had to use the 4 drop antelope for thay but at least it lets u give plains to other players as long as 1 person has a plains) but the pride of the deck were the nonbasic landwalk equipment n Ayumi, the Last Visitor who is a 7/3 legendary spirit for 3GG with legendary landwalk. So I'd use the Genju to put it on my opponent's land n then make it a 8/12 legendary creature land til EoT n seing for 7 unblockable 😹
I have a question: Why do a Top 10 (that considers competitive magic to make the list) with a Commander estipulation (color identity) since there is no competitive sanctioned tournaments in the format. To be honest i am curious to know what 5 color cards would have made the list...
Without the color identity requirement the quality of this list would fall off. Then it would be harder to find list to add cards like briefcase, kenrith, or jergantha.
Why is this relevant? Color Identity is not a competitive term. There are lists that cover non competitive topics, just make one to cover color identity.
@@user-jq3cj8wz3d it’s relevant to see what cards have all 5 colors listed on them that are competitive. No point in complaining it isn’t like Nizza doesn’t also do list for edh every now and then, I’m sure he’ll revisit this topic with an edh emphasis if that’s what you want. Also number 10 had 9 points, on top of there being 6 newcomers, clearly 5-color casting cost aren’t good enough to have a list on its own.
@@NizzahonMagic Damn, was Jodah really not played at all competitively? I remember him being played everywhere and being treated like some kind of uber-powerful card that should be banned.
Ahhh 5 colour cards, I love them so much. I know they're kinda being seen as generic in EDH now because everyone runs 5 colours, but it's so much more fun to just put whatever you want in a deck and go ham. I wonder if one day we'll ever see one make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
i understood griselbrand letting you immediately combo off but i really don't get how atraxa is better than progenitus, like cards are nice but surely You Lose In Two Turns is nicer
No there are ways around Progenitus’ “Protection from Everything” ability. It’s not what it once was. Atraxa is in the same Class as Grisselbrand, the amount of Card Draw she gives you sets you so far forward you’re going to have an answer for anything your opponent will try if not outright drawing a wincon.
Progenitus does nothing if you kill it, Atraxa gives you (depending on the situation of course) maybe 3-4 cards with a bit of selection. And killing progenitus isn't hard, just board wipe or have them sacrifice it. As soon as progenitus would be played as a wincon, every deck that needs it can run a fitting removal.
It’s possible, but I highly doubt it since everything in Eldraine seems to be inspired by European countries’ folklores. Consider everything else that we see in the plane, even ignoring the explicit references to specific stories, it all seems to build a vibe of a romanticized medieval fairy-tale world with noble knights and chivalry, castles and courtly balls, magic spells and witches in the woods. Given his appearance and background of becoming king after receiving a magic sword from a supernatural figure, I think King Arthur seems a much more likely figure that the creative team drew from.
I find it funny that the thing that dethrones Kenrith is an elk. Oko would be proud.
😂😂😂😂
Quality comment.
I kinda hate how fast power creep has skyrocketed, but one good thing about it is that it majorly renews a lot of your older lists.
I know they’re terrible, but as someone who started during invasion block, cromat and last stand will always have a special place in my heart lol
You could do worse than Last Stand + Prismatic Omen/Dryad of the Elysian Grove/Leyline of the Guildpact.
I went back to the previous list for top 10 WUBRG identity cards.
Your prediction 4 years ago about Jegantha gaining a whole bunch of points was accurate.
I really like that you put Compulsive Golem and Conflux in the intro. I know you did it on purpose! I also had a 5 colour deck with those cards, others, and Porgenitus when I was younger.
Sliver Queen is to this day my all-time favorite Magic card. I remember opening her in a pack back in 1998 and I instantly fell in love
A top ten 4 color would be interesting if you haven’t done that before.
If that’s a thing. 4 color has the smallest card pool of any color identity by a massive margin, so there may not even be 10 cards in the whole game that have points on this.
There's only 14 cards: the 5 Nephilim, the 5 4-color Commanders from the 4-color set, Omnath of Creation, one of the Aragorns from the LotR commander set, the new Atraxa and the 14th Doctor. Only Omnath and new Atraxa are legal in anything but Vintage/Legacy, and most of them weren't played in those formats anyway. There's no point to making the list.
While I didn't expect anything else, I'm kind of sad that one of my least favourite cards in magic got the number one spot, the vanilla 5/5 that people only play because there's literally no reason not to.
You will not slander the elky good boi. I will not stand for it!
You right though. 😂
I was actually looking forward to this list, since EDH usually has so little to do these Best of...lists, but it made me wonder then, in other formats, how valuable do WUBRG cards tend to be? In EDH, they are both helpful, and hindering, since you need those mana identity pips to be able to add other cards of those colors, and with 99 cards, you have more room, in a slower format, to stuff in the mana base WUBRG needs, but in other formats, they do almost seem like they would be more liability, with smaller decks, fewer unique names needed, and such. Cool to see how they fare with more freedom, but possibly less support.
Funny that Kenrith ended up in so many banned decks. Maybe he’s the one who should have been banned after all…
Kenrith is curse to a meta haha
Kenrith is by far worse than golos in the command zone but the people in charge of the bans for commander are just bad at their job.
@@stigmaoftheroseGolos found your best land, essentially helped pay for his own commander tax, and had a mana sink that allows cheating out big spells. Not to mention, Golos wasn't very flexible for building as he only was able to be 5 color good stuff. Kenrith has a bit of versatility and just provides abilities to use. Golos was much more ubiquitous as a commander.
@nicholas8739 kenrith, in my experience, is always played as a 5 color good stuff reanimator that only needs white and black mana to ruin a game for everyone else. If you don't have exile based removal there is literally nothing you can do to stop him from simply reanimating the most bullshit creatures from all 5 colors for way less than their casting cost.
@@stigmaoftheroseSo play a healthy amount of graveyard hate, which everyone should be doing in every deck anyways. Exile their graveyard once at the right time and they’re probably never coming back.
My commander and his companion are the top 2. Nice!
I find it interesting that "O-Kagachi Mae Manifest" isn't legendary.
I guess they didn't want to deal with it as maybe a commander in EDH.
Enduring ideal...i ran that for awhile with hivemind to lock everyone into playing only enchantments lol only got it of a few tims expensive cmc jank. i play commander though
Is there lists for the BEST Modern Cards in Magic: the Gathering?
Or perhaps even the BEST 10 Cards in all of Magic: the Gathering, using the same point system.
Such lists would be amazing imo
I think it’s also noteworthy that even if you can’t cast jengantha, if your deck allows him he reduces your deck limit to 59, making it just a wee bit more consistent
That’s not how companion works, it takes up a sideboard slot not a main deck slot. You still need 60 cards (excluding Jegantha) in your main deck.
We found the cheater 😂
The way that Invasion of Alara works is stupid. They should fit it just like they fixed Cascade.
14:31 You mentioned he can gain YOU 5 life but then target player draws a card. My buddy built Kenrith as a commander with the intent on making opponents "gain" life with Tainted Remedy. Of course, it's not the decks only win con, but it sure is his favorite! Lol.
Kenrith was always a card I could pick up late in MTGO drafts. He wasn't the most powerful thing around, but he often came down, only required one white mana and could contribute. Late game, with lots of mana, I would love casting him, using black activation once or twice, then the red activation. gg
Im shocked there's only 98 5 colour cards
No mention of Nejeela?
At our table I used to run a janky landwalk deck with a ton of 2 drops of each landfall (except plains, I had to use the 4 drop antelope for thay but at least it lets u give plains to other players as long as 1 person has a plains) but the pride of the deck were the nonbasic landwalk equipment n Ayumi, the Last Visitor who is a 7/3 legendary spirit for 3GG with legendary landwalk. So I'd use the Genju to put it on my opponent's land n then make it a 8/12 legendary creature land til EoT n seing for 7 unblockable 😹
Legacy Weapon forever! My very first constructed deck - Global Ruin, Collective Restrain...
And Coalition Victory on top (never actually played it)
I have a question: Why do a Top 10 (that considers competitive magic to make the list) with a Commander estipulation (color identity) since there is no competitive sanctioned tournaments in the format.
To be honest i am curious to know what 5 color cards would have made the list...
Without the color identity requirement the quality of this list would fall off.
Then it would be harder to find list to add cards like briefcase, kenrith, or jergantha.
Why is this relevant? Color Identity is not a competitive term. There are lists that cover non competitive topics, just make one to cover color identity.
@@user-jq3cj8wz3d it’s relevant to see what cards have all 5 colors listed on them that are competitive.
No point in complaining it isn’t like Nizza doesn’t also do list for edh every now and then, I’m sure he’ll revisit this topic with an edh emphasis if that’s what you want.
Also number 10 had 9 points, on top of there being 6 newcomers, clearly 5-color casting cost aren’t good enough to have a list on its own.
@@user-jq3cj8wz3d so in others words stop crying
Kenrith?
Edit:
Ngl, I feel cheated XD
With all the banning of cards around Kenrith without him getting banned, I'm surprised nobodies said it.
Long live the king.
Kenrith is a bee eye tee see aitch
What happened to the ur dragon and Tiamat and scion of the ur dragon as well as Ramos
He wasn't doing a list about commander sadly
It's about official placememts. Not sure if any of those creatures have even seen legacy or vintage play.
Where’s jodah the unifier, legendary pseudocascade with a coat of arms not good?
Not good enough no.
Not in formats where power matters.
Not good enough in constructed, absurdly good in EDH though
Yeah, it did nothing to constructed formats. It's broken in Commander though
How the hell did Jodah the Unifier not make the list?
By having one point.
@@NizzahonMagic Damn, was Jodah really not played at all competitively? I remember him being played everywhere and being treated like some kind of uber-powerful card that should be banned.
@@astuteanansi4935 Sounds like you have an interesting metagame!
He was played a tiny bit competitively, but yeah, not enough to make this list.
Because most of these lists don’t consider commander sadly.
The good old Commie War
I prefer Colorless myself. Has some unique advantages, especially in EDH. Of course, Zero or Five colors, luckily all decks can run Teeka's Dragon.
Only if you are a power-gaming madman who doesn't want any friends.
Dragon's Teeka.
Isn't this the same dude that posts in manalogs?
Nope, totally different person
Nah, manalogs kinda ripped his shtick lol
Nope!
No, and Nizza is empirically superior.
Welcome.
I think the only five-color card I have is Last Stand.
1 is Karona False God
0/10 no Reaper King Kappa
Ahhh 5 colour cards, I love them so much. I know they're kinda being seen as generic in EDH now because everyone runs 5 colours, but it's so much more fun to just put whatever you want in a deck and go ham. I wonder if one day we'll ever see one make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
i understood griselbrand letting you immediately combo off but i really don't get how atraxa is better than progenitus, like cards are nice but surely You Lose In Two Turns is nicer
No there are ways around Progenitus’ “Protection from Everything” ability. It’s not what it once was. Atraxa is in the same Class as Grisselbrand, the amount of Card Draw she gives you sets you so far forward you’re going to have an answer for anything your opponent will try if not outright drawing a wincon.
Atraxa is more useful in more situations and Prog isn't as an unbeatable as you think. Like just board wipe. You can also win sooner with cards.
Progenitus does nothing if you kill it, Atraxa gives you (depending on the situation of course) maybe 3-4 cards with a bit of selection. And killing progenitus isn't hard, just board wipe or have them sacrifice it. As soon as progenitus would be played as a wincon, every deck that needs it can run a fitting removal.
Atraxa gives you value even if she gets killed. Progenitus does nothing.
I'm pretty sure Kenrith is just Jesus Christ in the Magic card game lol. I'd be shocked if it wasn't a direct inspiration.
It’s possible, but I highly doubt it since everything in Eldraine seems to be inspired by European countries’ folklores. Consider everything else that we see in the plane, even ignoring the explicit references to specific stories, it all seems to build a vibe of a romanticized medieval fairy-tale world with noble knights and chivalry, castles and courtly balls, magic spells and witches in the woods. Given his appearance and background of becoming king after receiving a magic sword from a supernatural figure, I think King Arthur seems a much more likely figure that the creative team drew from.
He's based on King Arthur. Returned King makes it kinda obvious.
Not MOROPHON?!
Morophon is a terrible card.