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  • čas přidán 2. 02. 2020
  • After Bachelor Peter Weber canceled the cocktail party, the girls are nervous as the Rose Ceremony begins. To assure she gets time to talk to Peter, Tammy interrupts just before he starts handing out roses, pulling him aside for a chat. Not to be left out of extra time with Peter, Mykenna also grabs Peter to get some things off her chest, with both ladies drawing ire from the other bachelorettes. From 'Week 5,' season 24, episode 5 of The Bachelor. Watch The Bachelor 2020 MONDAY 8|7c on ABC, streaming, on demand, and Hulu.

Komentáře • 445

  • @julieegan6501
    @julieegan6501 Před 4 lety +999

    Is this really the Bachelor? It seems more like Survivor to me!

    • @maarchilvlogger7614
      @maarchilvlogger7614 Před 4 lety +2

      Hahaha so true

    • @gdesiree29
      @gdesiree29 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes that will be more epic lol

    • @ccm4715
      @ccm4715 Před 4 lety

      Lolol thats how i feel when i was watching it

    • @asciai
      @asciai Před 4 lety +5

      LMAOOO, now that’s hilarious 🤣!

    • @lucbordage7291
      @lucbordage7291 Před 4 lety +4

      Survival of the slickest. They can trust noOne this season. All on their own.

  • @nikkilyn7116
    @nikkilyn7116 Před 4 lety +1085

    Damn. As far as this season goes I’m starting to be #TeamNoOne

    • @Feudejoie5
      @Feudejoie5 Před 4 lety +36

      I don’t think any of them are there for the right reason, including Peter.

    • @psolo3
      @psolo3 Před 4 lety +34

      Madison has done nothing wrong

    • @rubiirae
      @rubiirae Před 4 lety +21

      @@psolo3 Madison is just 'so genuine & real'

    • @opena77
      @opena77 Před 4 lety +9

      Team Alayah

    • @kellyp8201
      @kellyp8201 Před 4 lety

      RubiiRae I snorted

  • @Navysingh43
    @Navysingh43 Před 4 lety +262

    When Peter watches back he will learn everyone’s true colors

  • @binhn.c.7003
    @binhn.c.7003 Před 4 lety +520

    Mykenna is so random. I’ve been waiting for her to go home for so long, she’s too immature for this.

    • @RobinPochita
      @RobinPochita Před 4 lety +15

      I have a feeling that Mykenna and Tammy will get the boot on Wednesday. Mykennas elimination is a long time coming and now I don’t like Tammy so her leaving is fine by me.

    • @gdesiree29
      @gdesiree29 Před 4 lety +1

      Shes always crying

    • @binhn.c.7003
      @binhn.c.7003 Před 4 lety +11

      Nik Ki It’s not really about who’s worse. The others that you mentioned are literal bullies and catty. But Mykenna is a different type of immature and annoying. She’s just there and crying, making faces and trying to poke in situations she has nothing to do with.

    • @fullhouseyep
      @fullhouseyep Před 4 lety

      honestly they're all random except for maybe 2 of them- hanna anne and madison

  • @Therezumee92
    @Therezumee92 Před 4 lety +338

    Madison is winning back points with me. Her just sitting down is such a relatable mood lmao

  • @ariannevas1443
    @ariannevas1443 Před 4 lety +355

    Madison sitting during the finasco is the best💕😂

    • @MiladyToxic
      @MiladyToxic Před 4 lety

      fiasco? Lmao

    • @Marina-xd7gp
      @Marina-xd7gp Před 4 lety +14

      @@MiladyToxic one of the girls said finasco during an argument lol. Can't remember who, but I think it was over the champagne incident

    • @pandashrimp9274
      @pandashrimp9274 Před 4 lety +15

      @@Marina-xd7gp think it was Hannah Ann.

    • @jennifertran2289
      @jennifertran2289 Před 4 lety +2

      Jessica Phillips it’s Madison. She’s the only one wearing red and pants lol

    • @Sabrellaells
      @Sabrellaells Před 4 lety +4

      Jennifer Tran she means Hannah Ann is the girl who said “finasco” in an episode, not that Hannah Ann is the girl who is sitting 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @vikkymiranda
    @vikkymiranda Před 4 lety +94

    Why was it even important to pull him aside at that exact moment just to tell him that the drama is getting to you and cry in his face like 🤦‍♀️

    • @isabel8948
      @isabel8948 Před 4 lety +2

      Victoria Miranda for pity that’s all! Lol it’s aggravating

  • @raquelleborg6020
    @raquelleborg6020 Před 4 lety +72

    Wow literally the two chillest girls in the show are Madison and Hannah. What a season it's been.

  • @AIyssaKoKo
    @AIyssaKoKo Před 4 lety +171

    I’m so over the word “clarity” being used in these shows since the bachelorette 🙄

    • @Blueeyesinthesky
      @Blueeyesinthesky Před 4 lety +1

      alicia 😂

    • @speedude0164
      @speedude0164 Před 4 lety +2

      Same with ''red flags''

    • @grace_k
      @grace_k Před 4 lety +11

      alicia
      clarity, open and honest, vulnerable, red flags... 🤦‍♀️

    • @onildalicona3020
      @onildalicona3020 Před 4 lety +4

      grace k this list is on point. But U forgot got another overused word. “Raw”😩

  • @MrTrftghj
    @MrTrftghj Před 4 lety +88

    This season is so annoying, it’s only drama with the girls and not even about the love concept

  • @lindsey9192
    @lindsey9192 Před 4 lety +217

    Did a girl lie down in the middle of the rose ceremony? Lmaooo

    • @xain9764
      @xain9764 Před 4 lety +15

      Apparently it's a couple hours long. They have to fix cameras after every name call

    • @isabelbicknell1020
      @isabelbicknell1020 Před 4 lety +13

      I think she was just sitting down cause Tammy went to talk to Peter so it’s like well this is gonna take a while

    • @nataliasimms57
      @nataliasimms57 Před 4 lety

      xainy what the hell they do 😧?!?

    • @xain9764
      @xain9764 Před 4 lety

      @@nataliasimms57 yes lol. The producers sometimes make everyone re do scenes to prefect them

    • @meghancavanagh2376
      @meghancavanagh2376 Před 4 lety +2

      Dude I would too 😂

  • @jl9637
    @jl9637 Před 4 lety +17

    Maddison literally always stays out of the drama... love her

  • @heyilikemakeup
    @heyilikemakeup Před 4 lety +289

    I can't stand Mykenna's fake crying, or Kelsey's pinched nose anymore.

  • @kater6873
    @kater6873 Před 4 lety +202

    This cast is beyond immature. I can't find anyone to root for.

    • @brandon_4thave822
      @brandon_4thave822 Před 4 lety

      Me either. Usually it's easy for me but it's so hard!!!

    • @b5lovermore
      @b5lovermore Před 4 lety +4

      Madison!:)

    • @2good4names71
      @2good4names71 Před 3 lety

      Lexie, but she went home on this episode cuz of McKenna and tammy.

  • @Emmagkelly
    @Emmagkelly Před 4 lety +468

    I hope none of these girls are the new bachelorette.. bring back Tayshia!!

    • @hannahbrozenec5182
      @hannahbrozenec5182 Před 4 lety +6

      Emma Lee Elizabeth I was literally thinking this today!!

    • @quinnysworld1086
      @quinnysworld1086 Před 4 lety +2

      I tell you

    • @Abbyvee11
      @Abbyvee11 Před 4 lety +5

      Yassss!!! Team Taysia!

    • @datopdawgindaville
      @datopdawgindaville Před 4 lety +25

      Have you all forgotten how horrible Tayshia was on Paradise?? or the fact that she was with JPJ just for clout

    • @Elllafella234
      @Elllafella234 Před 4 lety +9

      No did you not see how horrible tayshia was on paradise like no 🤣

  • @charrski2918
    @charrski2918 Před 4 lety +61

    Peter can't seem to keep a single thought - he is all over the place and so influenced. He can't seem to manage this and the girls are walking all over him and this season. I must admit - not impressed with this season - Mike would have been more dynamic I think or of course Tyler C. Peter is too nice and regular dating would be more his style. Just my opinion.

  • @MrCjeff123
    @MrCjeff123 Před 4 lety +139

    Let’s be honest neither Tammy or Kelsey stand a chance of winning Peter’s heart. I’d kick most of them to the curb and Focus on my top 3.

    • @kayyxoxo68
      @kayyxoxo68 Před 4 lety +5

      Christopher rumor is Kelsey is too 4!

  • @EllDuclos
    @EllDuclos Před 4 lety +163

    THE WORST GROUP OF GIRLS. Peter loves the drama at this point. Can’t believe how vicious they all are.
    Kelly deserves better than this show and Madison can be the bachelorette.

    • @georgepanagiotou8673
      @georgepanagiotou8673 Před 4 lety +1

      Yea Peter wasn’t thinking clearly from the start, now that he got into a fist fight with a golf cart he’s really up shit creek without a paddle 😆

    • @victoriagee1059
      @victoriagee1059 Před 4 lety +1

      EllDuclos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @victoriagee1059
      @victoriagee1059 Před 4 lety +1

      EllDuclos there is like a big group of super mean bullying women.

    • @bellac1409
      @bellac1409 Před 4 lety

      EllDuclos Nothing vicious about these girls! I see nothing but pimple popper immature little girls. Boring🧐

  • @nicolebrown4774
    @nicolebrown4774 Před 4 lety +194

    Can we all agree Madison is the only one peter should end up with?

  • @mellobaliwag8201
    @mellobaliwag8201 Před 4 lety +71

    I have just seen ep 2 so far.. and this must be one of the most stressful season ever. . Peter looks more and more unattractive , always looking at lost and stressed.. and these girls with all the drama..look like they are just there trying to convince themselves they are inlove ..

  • @KateCameron1
    @KateCameron1 Před 4 lety +60

    Mykenna needs to go home

  • @joannerzezniczek7115
    @joannerzezniczek7115 Před 4 lety +67

    This is immaturity at its worst. It is like watching grade 7 girls bullying each other in the school yard. Cancel the show. We need real women-mature self-made women.

    • @shepherd_x
      @shepherd_x Před 3 lety +1

      They pick them on purpose so itll be entertaining
      Edit: mature self made women almost never settle for man unless hes more successful than her and its slim pickings if any if she's successful. Women dont date down

  • @rocprodprinceray
    @rocprodprinceray Před 4 lety +101

    There all basically fresh out of college girls. They don't know what they want. Worst group of girls but mostly Peter wasn't ready for this. He still wants Hannah B. Literally Tyler would have been an amazing bachelor

  • @tara1710
    @tara1710 Před 4 lety +28

    Madison is sitting and waiting for proposal ! You Go girl!! 🥳🥳🥳
    The worst group of girls ever!

  • @youtubecommenter37
    @youtubecommenter37 Před 4 lety +8

    Fun fact: every time Peter gives a rise out, the camera move in to zoom in on certain girls. Then they have to stop and get the cameras set for the group shot. It takes forever. By the time the rose ceremony is done, it’s been three hours and it’s 1 in the morning

  • @lifeofzeinab1829
    @lifeofzeinab1829 Před 4 lety +37

    Send all the girls home. Re start the season with new girls

    • @taay_thegreat2057
      @taay_thegreat2057 Před 4 lety

      Life of Zeinab agreed, such annoying immature season.

    • @bellac1409
      @bellac1409 Před 4 lety +1

      Life of Zeinab They need to restart the show with mature women not immature girls!!

  • @meliling158
    @meliling158 Před 4 lety +50

    If I was peters mom I would b like.. nope.. nope.. not that one... no no no...

  • @jacobmartinez5461
    @jacobmartinez5461 Před 4 lety +8

    His bruise on his forehead is a metaphor for this season

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf
    @BrokTheLoneWolf Před 4 lety +21

    I would have only gave one rose and gave it to Alayah.

  • @Navysingh43
    @Navysingh43 Před 4 lety +45

    These girls act like it’s the end of the world Tammy has every right to talk to him

    • @paulwall2891
      @paulwall2891 Před 4 lety +1

      Navjot Singh yeah she does but it’s not fair to everyone else following the rules of the show

    • @jclyntoledo
      @jclyntoledo Před 4 lety +3

      @@paulwall2891 There are no rules, besides don't have a significant other and be open to dating the bachelor/bachelorette and don't tell anyone off the show anything til after the final rose.

    • @paulwall2891
      @paulwall2891 Před 4 lety +2

      jclyntoledo well technically yes but still not true...i think it’s safe to say interrupting the rose ceremony before it begins to get one on one time with peter isn’t how it normally works. There was no need for a cocktail party. peter didn’t need to speak with any of the girls, He already had the clarity he needed. Tammy interrupting the rose ceremony and speaking with peter off to the side goes against the rose ceremony process and wasn’t fair to the other girls

    • @camille-7015
      @camille-7015 Před 4 lety +2

      Sichael Mcott Peter could have told her no but he didn’t. I wish the women would stop blaming each other and realize Peter is doing what he wants to do and if he is persuaded by everyone that easily he may not be a good partner anyway.

    • @Navysingh43
      @Navysingh43 Před 4 lety +1

      Sichael Mcott if u watched the past seasons this happens all the time the bachelor or the bachelorette gets pulled aside during the rose ceremony

  • @kristi9
    @kristi9 Před 4 lety +51

    Those girls suck. I loved the freak out in Peter's eyes though haha he's even surprised by the bs- hope it all works out lol those girls mean though hahaha

  • @catherineyanthan3496
    @catherineyanthan3496 Před 4 lety +28

    I want Kelsey, Sydney, and Mckenna outta the show.

  • @mitchie9630
    @mitchie9630 Před 4 lety +5

    Lamooooooo would definitely be that one girl sitting on the ground while the chitchats were happening 😂😂

  • @lynniejudge4066
    @lynniejudge4066 Před 4 lety +16

    Peter got a rough deal with this group of girls - so much drama OMW

  • @Farhan917
    @Farhan917 Před 3 lety +6

    Tammy using dirty tactics 😂

  • @f.taheri9903
    @f.taheri9903 Před 4 lety +42

    All of them In mature. They need to grow up

  • @soccerlife8912
    @soccerlife8912 Před 4 lety +2

    “This is sooo annoying.” While looking straight ahead and speaking quietly. Like something straight out of a movie. 😆

  • @Frommydiningroom
    @Frommydiningroom Před 4 lety +11

    I haven't even seen Kelly involved in any drama since she came

  • @pandaxpress1854
    @pandaxpress1854 Před 4 lety +8

    Felt so sad that Lexi got sent home, I was really starting to enjoy getting to know her. She seemed pretty chill and level-headed unlike most of the girls here. Hope to see her as bachelorette or in paradise.

    • @2good4names71
      @2good4names71 Před 3 lety +1

      Absulutly finally someono who understands. She was sent home cuz of McKenna and tammy

  • @tomtran4369
    @tomtran4369 Před 4 lety +2

    Tammy as the first Asian-American villain on the Bachelor.

  • @dianee9289
    @dianee9289 Před 4 lety +17

    These women are crazy! Run Peter!

  • @user-du5cs1vs7d
    @user-du5cs1vs7d Před 4 lety +10

    This is a first.... stealing the lead after someone had already interrupted the rose ceremony..😅😂😂🤣

  • @leilanipurcell12
    @leilanipurcell12 Před 4 lety +11

    Tammy is starting to really show her true colors and she really just seems to be competing right now, to just get girls get kicked off. I haven't seen any emotional connection with peter.

  • @carolbenson6524
    @carolbenson6524 Před 4 lety +34

    None of these girls are mature enough for this show!

  • @brandon_4thave822
    @brandon_4thave822 Před 4 lety +28

    I'm never watching this show ever again. Honestly, this is the WORST set of women. Who would want to get engaged to them? Hell, who would want to get engaged to Peter?

  • @jillkeeton4059
    @jillkeeton4059 Před 4 lety +9

    Oh my goodness! All these girls have PMS at the same time!

  • @CJ-83
    @CJ-83 Před 4 lety +2

    Madison so tired with all the drama so she sit down lmaoooo

  • @paigerodriguez1473
    @paigerodriguez1473 Před 4 lety +17

    okay can we get something straight? the real emotionally unstable person is mykenna! she’s been crying since week one. goodnight y’all 🤣

  • @obed3115
    @obed3115 Před 4 lety +4

    Lately I’ve literally been falling asleep to this show. Only thing that will keep me watching is if a fight happens 🥊

  • @jmp3479
    @jmp3479 Před 4 lety +37

    The most deplorable season ever

  • @lilobazbaz8976
    @lilobazbaz8976 Před 4 lety +3

    This season is making Hannah’s season look good

  • @devynaaro
    @devynaaro Před 4 lety +4

    "I need clarity". Does anyone else think of Luke P whenever anyone says that since Tammy just mentioned that one line I just mentioned lol

  • @Debthouse
    @Debthouse Před 5 měsíci

    When the leads say, "I trust the process" I now interpret that to mean, "I need unconditional validation" and "I crave drama."

  • @ajlar44
    @ajlar44 Před 4 lety +7

    So happy Lexi is gone, my mom gave me a high-five when she got the boot! We are #TeamMadison

    • @2good4names71
      @2good4names71 Před 3 lety

      Lexie was so mature you kiddin? How no one sees it? Right! She was friends with the mean girls but if you watch the episodes again, lexie always stayed away from drama unless it effects her. She was so nice all the time i dont get how people didnt like her

  • @TamaraMurad13
    @TamaraMurad13 Před 4 lety +4

    The only one I will appreciate is Madi sitting down during this rose ceremony, has anyone ever? Wow girl same!😂😂

  • @chevycam5360
    @chevycam5360 Před 4 lety +2

    I just think of SNL 😂😂😂😂😂😜😂

  • @estherbutera1610
    @estherbutera1610 Před 4 lety +33

    I only care about Kelley and Madison the rest can go home at this point😢

  • @ManuelPabloArnao
    @ManuelPabloArnao Před 4 lety +2

    Those 2 girls that talked to him are shadyyyyyy!

    • @2good4names71
      @2good4names71 Před 3 lety

      Lexie was literally sent home because of those two bitches

  • @MSLEEXIONG
    @MSLEEXIONG Před 4 lety +1

    Soooo annoyed but why can’t I stop watching 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lunamoon9935
    @lunamoon9935 Před 4 lety +1

    LMFAO look at all their faces 🥴😭

  • @BrandonTownsend
    @BrandonTownsend Před 4 lety +2

    Why do I keep watching this show?

  • @ayalaw5033
    @ayalaw5033 Před 4 lety +27

    Peter belongs with Hannah because there both CHILDREN

    • @brandon_4thave822
      @brandon_4thave822 Před 4 lety +1

      He's basically the male version of her but worse. At least she would go to the cocktail parties.

  • @sarraboulebtina1761
    @sarraboulebtina1761 Před 4 lety +4

    Why do they sound like they straight outta mean girls

  • @lowlee7
    @lowlee7 Před 4 lety +3

    Tammy seems to be the realest one. But yet they judge her coz Kelsey played the victim and Tammy can see right thru her. I feel bad for Tammy. Kelsey and Victoria P are the fake ones.

  • @ronalieadams4709
    @ronalieadams4709 Před 4 lety +8

    These girls are so immature and full of drama. Worst bunch ever.

  • @marilispineiro8994
    @marilispineiro8994 Před 4 lety

    They got some great actresses this season. For real.

  • @asareirene
    @asareirene Před 4 lety +9

    So McKenna....??

  • @jordanbri7937
    @jordanbri7937 Před 4 lety +2

    I feel like it’s going to be Peter and Madison together

  • @kassimal9265
    @kassimal9265 Před 3 lety

    would you guys belive me if i said my english teacher is making me watch this

  • @maggie4515
    @maggie4515 Před 4 lety +2

    this season would have been so much better with mike as bachelor

  • @jacobmartinez5461
    @jacobmartinez5461 Před 4 lety +1

    That's why I prefer to watch the bachelorette. This reason .....

  • @armeniajones7873
    @armeniajones7873 Před 4 lety

    You don't want to be alone

  • @whatsthedeal8905
    @whatsthedeal8905 Před 4 lety +2

    Literally I was only ever rooting for my girl Alexa, but honestly I would have preferred her with Mike from Hannah’s season🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @dolliebush8735
    @dolliebush8735 Před 4 lety

    These group of girls are unbelievable

  • @bellabraham2154
    @bellabraham2154 Před 4 lety

    As Peter begins 5th Rose Ceremony Tammy L & McKenna make last ditch effort speaking with him after no cocktail party was scheduled tonight. Drawing anger & ire from women Kellie, Sydney, Hannah Ann, Kelsey Wiener have roses. Meaning Shiann & Lexi leaving Costa, Rica. Total of {6} women were sent home. Just 48 hours until Week 6 starts Wednesday Night 2/5/2020

  • @sukiBambina
    @sukiBambina Před 4 lety

    How do I love something and hate it so much at the same time

  • @iammhyrgaitera175
    @iammhyrgaitera175 Před 4 lety +26

    omg,a lot of crying babies.I wish next contestant above 30's

  • @valmercado4682
    @valmercado4682 Před 4 lety

    This show has so much drama it’s so dissimilarity was a great time for us this time and time to go to see you tomorrow and you can send a lot more to the kids and I

  • @CarlosGonzalez-yv1tg
    @CarlosGonzalez-yv1tg Před 4 lety

    My goodness!, this is really heating up. I had to take a Valium to make it to the end. Kelley, I want you on the show, please loose the lawyer and start being more vulnerable.

  • @lucbordage7291
    @lucbordage7291 Před 4 lety +2

    Missing HannahB more than ever.

  • @vprothermel
    @vprothermel Před 4 lety +1

    It’s like the Luke P show all over again.

  • @Sillyshianne123
    @Sillyshianne123 Před 4 lety

    Madison is the only one who hasn’t stirred any drama and I’m here for her! Tammy’s cool too but drama seems to follow her

  • @zoehart9510
    @zoehart9510 Před 4 lety

    blondie trying to make him feel bad hehe

  • @jessebonnie2671
    @jessebonnie2671 Před 4 lety +1

    Poor Peter.. he’s going through a lot of stress throughout the show 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @jennifercline8644
    @jennifercline8644 Před 4 lety

    These girls are absolutely ridiculous this season! Like it's a freakn rose ceremony! Get it together!

  • @keenannelson-barer307
    @keenannelson-barer307 Před 3 lety

    Yep Thai show rocks my socks off

  • @teresaelizabethdurham8776

    Is not the first a cocktail party is cancelled. It happens before and nobody blames others for that

  • @notyouraveragejoe7003
    @notyouraveragejoe7003 Před 4 lety +1

    McKenna fake crying though lol. Like please don’t tell me he fell for that shit!

  • @lailaj3020
    @lailaj3020 Před 4 lety +3

    I only watch this show because these girls make me feel better about my life. Imagine being so desperate to be engaged that you would go on TV and compete with other girls, put up with drama for a MAN. LOL

  • @jillreys6159
    @jillreys6159 Před 4 lety

    I don’t watch this snow....but now I want to.....???? 😂😂😂

  • @yolandecloete2186
    @yolandecloete2186 Před 4 lety +2

    All about their bloody hair

  • @devynaaro
    @devynaaro Před 4 lety +2

    I love how Victoria F keeps her composure. I can't wait for Victoria F to be one of the top 3.

  • @lualuafaith9131
    @lualuafaith9131 Před 3 lety +3

    tammy is my girl shes the realist

  • @kcc-karenschroniccorner9432

    Stupid thing was- Peter wasn’t worth all the drama.

  • @laurenseretti9449
    @laurenseretti9449 Před 4 lety

    Peter looks over Mykennas whiney crying lmaoooo

  • @lanidelacruzramsey927
    @lanidelacruzramsey927 Před 4 lety +1

    The me@n girls club headed by Sydney and Victoria P...😁

  • @kristenmedina88
    @kristenmedina88 Před 4 lety +1

    The blogger is the new Ashley I

  • @cookiesh.4804
    @cookiesh.4804 Před 4 lety +1

    Going up there to cry was so cringe

  • @jacobmorgan144
    @jacobmorgan144 Před 4 lety +1

    I don’t blame her at all! Look, Kelsey drinking on reality tv, drinking to her emotions is a red flag! Clearly she’s not handling herself well under pressure. How is she going to be in a home life setting? Plus, calling other girls names and dissing other relationships by saying “she’s not right for him” and acting like that, idk. Kelsey is just a wild card

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf
    @BrokTheLoneWolf Před 4 lety +4

    I love when women on this show keep forgetting that it’s ultimately a competition and are surprised when another girl “competes”.