Same old stroy line but its fact. Lets make it right 1. Focus on one strategy or setup 2. Work on your psychology and emotions 3. No one wins every trade but if you're losing means lose little amount and try to capture big amount 4. Maintain peaceful environment around your room while doing trading. 5. Focus on learning and maintain journal of your trades everyday 6. No fomo trading and maintain healthy relationships with friends and family because they are your support system in this time. 7. Dont hope for big money in a short span of time, you will get ur money time by time but first of keep on pushing with 1:2 risk reward ratio. 8. Don't be so happy and sad when ever you win or lose money its part of business right. Hope guys all traders bhai log keep rocking and keep learning and keep investing finally keep trading ❤
@@Aj-eb7ej It absolutely is not, dealing in Equity and dealing in FnO is difference of day and night, but you wouldn't know that because all you do is take options in Nifty and lose all your money and think people who invest for the long term (1 year or more) also lose money like you do lol. Stock market has always been risky and will always remain risky, but derivatives are in a whole different ball park, the risk difference between Equity and FnO segment is very huge.
@@interestsavvy6813 that'd be true if you choose to professionally train yourself in derivatives, and use them for what they are actually made for. And in this audience here, including you, im pretty sure, have no clue what its real use is. otherwise its just gambling, and whatever you said is what every gambler says.
I have deployed 1.5L in options and traded for 6 months i have gained some days and i have lost some all along the path however my net to net PnL was zero like i gained nothing i lost nothing but my loss is 40K and it was the brokerage charges stamp duty and other taxes 😂 but after this i sat and studied for 1 and half years and learnt how it works and made decent sum in hedging and selling options so end of the story please learn first and then earn. Happy trading all
@@user-ij9vi6sn8g almost every businesses is like that. Someone's loss is Someone's profit.. be it ur branded shoes, clothes, jewellery and what not..
Now that the risk warning has been given, now we really need a whole series on it explaining the whole options stuff from buying/selling puts and calls. Awesome video! 👏
I wish you were there 5 years back. All the episodes are relatable and I learnt it hard by losing money. Even this episode is to the point. I actually got into options trading, followed some telegram channels, made a few thousand and then entirely lost it. As revenge, I entered to get back the money and find myself in a trap to lose more money. Then I stopped investing. Guys, I will look forward to your episode where I can use options to work in favour, as my capital has grown over 20 Lacs. Love your work. Pls keep educating the community. Thanks 😊
Last year I lost 21 lakhs , and this year also I lost more than 10lakhs.. now I'm in big loan and can't repay emi. The major problem is even after getting knowledge discipline is what stops you from getting consistently profitable. And you can't leave it after sometime as no other way can recover you this faster from losses. If you're not disciplined strictly stay away from options trading. I make big profits and even if I encounter small loss which is part of the game I can't control my mind and keep revenge trading and end up in losing all earned profits and capital also. I know decipline can save me but my brain works only after market is closed.
Don’t worry try to do this:~ 1. Risk management 2. Single trade a day 3. Trade only in your setup which you mastered 4. If loss in your setup close laptop for a day don’t take trade Do this for 6 month you will get that discipline @ adv_abhi this is the phase everyone will go through this
Good one. I have been in the market since 2019 and was very disciplined and was making good money in FnO for long period of time. I was also doing swing trading in equity. The cycle in FnO was like- I make good profit and I loose it double, I make again and I loose it double. But in swing trade I was able to make decent profit percentage every year, with lesser charges,time and knowledge. So I understood that even after knowing everything in FnO you will loose money for multiple reasons, the reports are not wrong. In equity you can be right with very basic knowledge. There is no quick money scheme in markets.Even if you get the FnO takes it back. Investing and short term trade can make you decent money and its a skill that is valuable over the time.
I personally know people who lost all their savings and income gambling F&O….they’re just not convinced it’s not possible to make sustainable profits in options GAMBLING and still continue to do it.
Most of the people's not get convinced instead they do revenge trades and end up with huge unpredict losses.. they should understanding of their financial stuff & market knowledge to control the risks..
i have lost 10 lakhs in option buying since 2021 but now after getting NISM certification i have switched into option selling and trade with small lots , now after spending 3 years in derivative market i can say u cannot make money in option buying it is tough as hell u cannot predict markets..
@@cuteandfunanimals8841 Decay is the best friend of option selling. It takes time but option selling gives you small but much more consistent and stable profits over a long period of time. But my view is if you can afford option selling then buy bulk delivery in dips, it is much safer though requires quite a bit of research still 1000 times Better than options.
I know option without knowledge is very risky but if you give time then you can learn. I Have been in market after COVID and did all shit that amateure does ,but know genuinely trying to learn by doing just paper trading or small quantity
You sound like you know the how's, the why's, the if & but, make sense...but then question why sebi instituted the study,why they rub your nose in it at login and why zero da put out this video.
It's good to have knowledge about the market before actually trading. But paper trading doesn't always provide you accurate market simulations. So, make sure that you set you understand the difference between real and paper trading.
@@Zero1byZerodha paper trading is for nerds... People who have time to devote.... I was in a paper trade mid yesterday... Nifty 24k Ce naked call... 498-500/lot...sell today at 620...next day same time. I don't take these trades anymore... Love to paper trade.
I have traded in just 1 lot for years as part of learning. Slowly moving from small losses to no-profit-no-loss to making small profits now. One day I’ll be part of the elite few but until then it’s constant learning, taking calculated risks, sticking to a strategy, keeping strict stop loss and inculcating discipline into the process.
Okay, I'll have to say this. This video is much needed for the beginner fno trader. However, I've recovered a lot of my losses in the market because I was holding short positions in FnO. Basically, my portfolio going down during the crashes, made me more money than I lost because I'd sold some hedged positions. Do I repeat this every month and make money? Yes. Does it make sense to everyone to do? Absolutely not. I only do covered calls and hedged shorts. Anything where I know my loss and profit are not defined, I'll just shut up and not do it.
That salary example was personal 😂 Lost so much back to back and decided to learn about it as much as possible. Still learning 😅 and yes for sure it is nothing but gambling 😂. Risk apatite is important in options and that's what people don't understand. I urge your team to make a series on psychology because that's what we lack.
Filed 150+ ITR this time, 50% were exposed to F&O. 95% lost money. one fellow was so much in delusion, had a salary of 14 Lakh but lost to futures + brokerage 11 Lakhs. I suggested that he stop doing this, and he told me to just book the loss so that he could lower his tax liability this year. I hope he gets out of this soon.
I think this video deserves 2nd part, you know when i had this conversation with a friend of mine he screwed me wrong by stating some technical analysis which kind a seem legit to all ppl and i think Thisis what had influenced on lot of ppl.
@@Zero1byZerodha I don't know a lot about it but there's a 1000s fluencers promoting this regards trade. Some candle stick pattern stuff , how the fluencers influence this with motive of history repeats itself it means they believe if in the chart today x pattern is shown before the market blown up , let's say not today not tomorrow but a week later the same pattern seems in screen it means I'll again blow up and that's how PPL sounds professionally but I believe blowing up or dumping down are the effects of supply and demand and this S&D could have various economic reason how could a single static can give an accurate data. I'm not against of trading at all but think about it there's an economist who has 1000s of data with him just to make him a single decision on the other hand PPL only have a this single price static and this could help to predict price at some extent.But at some You know where I feel the problem is, we have fluencer they influence PPL in 2 kind ,1st is they tell PPL study the whole branches of organisation before investing and PPL wisely becomes investor that is totally fine. Here's a 2nd kind of fluencers comes in and they influence PPL in a way that it doesn't needed to care at all what's happening with organisation they just want to grow quickly where this fluencers fill the gap and give the know about 🕯️ or something.And guess what they make it this genuine that PPL started thinking that this knowledge is enough to enter in market as an active trader but they didn't realise there's a lot many thing happened in backend. So,what i needed from you in 2nd part is let's have an awareness video for PPL to know what actually drives the candle stick patterns and it isn't meant a lot while trading
I don't know a lot about it but there's a 1000s of fluencers promoting tthis. Some candle stick stuff, it means what they say is 'history repeats itself'.Lets understand with this ex letssay the security blown up after showing x pattern. and if the same pattern has shown security after a week then security will blown up again but it isn't coz at the end of the cycle it's just an data of Supply and Demand . You know what fluencer follow this thing and make it sound professional, and that's make threat for lot of PPL coz PPL aren't aware about what factors are driving that candle it just an piece of Statics but there's lot many economic factors plays a role in fluctuations but PPL aren't taking it into consideration specially genzi's. Fluencers advertise trading misleadingly they make PPL beleive that that is for them but in reality there's a lot of big PPL are there in economy and they are having all possible understanding, all possible data how could a individual stand over there. You know what I see from 2nd part of this is let PPL have awareness about that 🕯️ are not enough data you're having to predict the prices it's just a single statistical data there are many various data they're supposed to take into consideration while trading. Genuinely what is needed burst the bubble of so called candle patterns.
i started as investor 2021, later after watching some youtube videos tried options trading, always the first trade gives you good return investment around 10k return 2.5 k . the first trade. i was so happy. i want to explore options trading watched 100 's of youtube videos for 3 years. simultaneously trading some days profit somedays loss. after 1 year. overall P&L was Rs: -40000. stopped trading for 6 months. watched multiple youtube videos almost 9-10 hrs a day. started with small capital 10 k 1 lot. again first trade is Rs 1000. profit. lost 10 k in 2 months. i have learned so many things. but still cant make money. finally stopped options trading. overall i have made around 50 k losss. my friend invested 1 lack in 2021. now he is holding with profit of 2 lacks.
It can be profitable if u come in reality then a imagination....like not thinking of 100% or 200% .....only wants a returns of 5% or 10% with 1 trade ......and also manage ur risk and reward ....📈
Trading in FnO is for extremely discpline people only. You have to learn so much about trading before entering, otherwise you will loose your entire wealth like me.
Very good video. I've been in the options market from 2011. Lost a fortune and making it back. It took me almost a decade to understand the tricks of the trade (I'm a slow learner). It's not easy making money here though it is very simple. It is as easy and simple as losing weight. Have you ever tried dieting, etc??? 😀😀😀 I would very much appreciate if you would make video on risk control techniques. I, strongly believe, risk control is the key to this puzzle. I became profitable only after I learnt to position size.
@@swapnilpatil8176 Position sizing helps in controlling risk. This way you will be there in the market when the good moves come. I keep my SL far and position size such that my risk is never more than 3% of my trading capital.
I was sitting with a friend at my college once, he was a f&o trader and I am an equity investor. I asked him 'How profitable are you?' He said 'Not as simple, sometimes you lose sometimes you win' and he asked me what I did in the market and if I was profitable? I said 'I invest in equity and I am profitable' What he said next blew my mind "Being profitable in equity is very easy, F&O is where you need the game"
I have lost around 4.5 Lakhs which my all time saving in between FY 2020 to 2022 in options... around 2 Lakhs was brokerage and charges .. I was obsessed with overtrading my flaws and my put down was over trading and lack of strategy , But the only thing i gained is i am familiar with price action trading now ...... and now helping friends to take short term trades and investment , now this is my restart in stock market and for now about 6 months we are in profit for around 3% per month .. Soon with proper mindset and strategy will enter to options again .... I have to win in this competitive exam 😇
I really can't thank you guys enough for these gems that keep sharing for free! You people are leading Indian Investors to a smarter tomorrow! 👏👏👏 Kudos! Lots of Aashirwad and goodwill to you all!
This is best format zerodha cracked to make educational videos I love the Indian innovation race in digital marketing we own this space now along with IT congratulations all my countrymen
It’s been 3 years since Zerodha has launched kill switch. But did guys aware of it that it’s worthless, because until unless it will be automatically closed segment after a certain number of trades preset by us or after a certain amount of loss. Then only it will fullfill the purpose of kill switch. I don’t understand why Zerodha is not launching this, just because of brokerages? Then I have to switch to another broker.
@@user-rs8oq5yv3ekill switch is closing a segment eg - equity, F&O or commodity for the day, so that you can not take any fresh trades. This feature is introduced to reduce over trading.
I am one of the F and O trader who has lost 35k of my capital . At the starting I am roughly 70k and lost it all so another lesson to the viewers you might win at starting but one trade can ruin all the profits so please be cautious
i was addicted to becoming successful in option trading , i was obsessed trying different strategies couldn't keep the obsession in control but now only doing long term investment .
I am in the mode of revenge trading. A year ago I lost 30k of my parents money. I made 8% in a month in equity which I feel was decent and lost every penny in FnO. But now as I am earning I will go again in the FnO market. I am learning it I am learning about derivatives, theta decay, delta, gamma, option spreads like straddle strangle. I will hedge but I will earn. I will not lose from FnO
Awesome bro.... Love all your videos. And mostly the content on Varsity. You are a born teacher. Thanks a million for your valuable time and invaluable lessons
I had shifted to option selling from buying. So with 1 lac i sell one option and my stoploss is 3-4000 and also my target is same. It has definitely increased my overall PnL.
I made 7k rupees in profit but did not get greedy even though I lost some money. I kept my investment same and avoided days where the volatility was high. Although I started coz my dad said so coz he is very much in profit but I started small and still learning the basics and theory. I'm sitting on a profit of 1k so down from 7 to 1. Still learning and understanding. Most comedic thing is that I paid around 1.5k in taxes from the profit I made😂
Most option traders say that people lose money in options due to the lack of discipline. But now I hear about something called the algo trading, in which everything is automated based on your strategy. Also you can back test your stategy. I just wanted to know, does algo trading actually work? Are people actually making money using an algo trading setup?
I lost around 1 lakh in 2021-22 bcz I didn't know how they works. Then I learned it properly, tracking world markets, macro economics, Hedging, using colletral of shares to sell options stretegies, etc. Zerodha varsity helped me a lot. And guess what I earned above 2.5 lakhs in 2023-24.
@@harshil13yt Hip Hip hurrah...we have a winner... he's that 5%... Hey wait a minute...he said 2.5 lacs...does that mean...Rs.3,400?? I'm confused by SEBI 😉
Thanks for this channel by zerodha, Please bring varsity all knowledge base in video so that people and we can understand better than text.... Appreciate your videos simple and understanding in simple English....
Iam a College student aged 23 , First of all , I really wanted to appreciate the efforts of the whole team. Your way of presentation is fantastic. Your comedy , body guestures all are so perfect. Okay now i want to share my person experience on trading , I started and explored the world of stock , when I was in 11th std. I was unaware of the markets , but my thought process was , just buy some random company (penny stock) , and when price increase just sell it , and take the profit. It was good where i have made 28k profit (by investing 1 lakh rs) over 6 to 8 months. Then i started buying a middle range stocks (₹200- 300), and waited to increase money. But it crashed that i lost around 30k , i waited around 1 year thinking it would rebound. But it never happened and the money was a gold loan from my mother. Then i promised myself not to invest money without studying. I then downloaded varsity app and still now studying the technicals, options , fundamental etc. I binge watch your youtube videos and try to note down the points too .. Once again your videos are superb.❤
Options trading is really great if you do it for the thrill of being green. Money instills greed; Try trading without prioritising money. A very easy way to trade options is by having discipline. For instance, you trade 30,000 Rs., place a stop loss at 1500 Rs. Which basically means you're out of the trade when you lose 5% and keep a target of 3000 Rs. No matter how tempting it is, you close the trade if either the stop loss or the target is met. I know all of this sounds very cliche, but its practial, reasonable and skill-based to an extent. Out of every ten trades aim to make 4 or 5 green trades, that's a net profit :)
For instance, in some competitive exams like the IBPS (Institute of Banking Personnel Selection) exams, the success rate can be around 1-2%1. This means that out of every 100 applicants, only 1 or 2 might secure a job. Which means, its tougher than f&o 😂😂😂😂
I started trading on futures from april this year....made about 2.5 lakh profits in two month....and then election day and budget day evaporated all my profits....point is never trade during big event days....it cost me more than 2 lakhs to learn this lesson😢... Market sometimes open huge gap ups or down....Thats the most dangerous thing bcz at gaps you r trading without stop loss... Gaps is the reason i lose big money... As i was carry forwarding my fut trades on election result day and market falls heavily on that day
From my experience F&O is, knowing where to start and stop. Setting a weekly goal instead of blindly trading is much better. My capital is 3 lakhs and my weekly goal is 20k, which means 80k a month and it is very easily achievable. I know most of you guys will say that I can make more money with that much capital, but I don't need that much money. My monthly expense is only 12k rupees so making 80k a month is like a fortune to me. I have been a greedy ass in past and lost a lot of money on overtrading.I found the real mistake was trading aimlessly(jitna mile utna jaldi jaldi lelo mentality). I am taking things very slow now, with low risk and less tension. As my capital will increase, my profit will also slightly increase.
Same old stroy line but its fact. Lets make it right
1. Focus on one strategy or setup
2. Work on your psychology and emotions
3. No one wins every trade but if you're losing means lose little amount and try to capture big amount
4. Maintain peaceful environment around your room while doing trading.
5. Focus on learning and maintain journal of your trades everyday
6. No fomo trading and maintain healthy relationships with friends and family because they are your support system in this time.
7. Dont hope for big money in a short span of time, you will get ur money time by time but first of keep on pushing with 1:2 risk reward ratio.
8. Don't be so happy and sad when ever you win or lose money its part of business right. Hope guys all traders bhai log keep rocking and keep learning and keep investing finally keep trading ❤
Wow So beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Bro Can We be Friends (Trading Friend)??
Just think like business and business takes time.
Much needed, people needed to know the truth about F And O.
And should stop this asap.
More of a gambling than trading
gambling only if u dont know what u r doing .
Gambling for gamblers only
Such a narrow mindset
Then stock market is also a gamble too.😂
@@Aj-eb7ej It absolutely is not, dealing in Equity and dealing in FnO is difference of day and night, but you wouldn't know that because all you do is take options in Nifty and lose all your money and think people who invest for the long term (1 year or more) also lose money like you do lol. Stock market has always been risky and will always remain risky, but derivatives are in a whole different ball park, the risk difference between Equity and FnO segment is very huge.
Guys today only I made 12k in profits from options but wait yesterday I incurred a loss of 50k in options 😂😂😂
These happens. You will become more experience and before you know it, you will earn free money
@@interestsavvy6813 before he know, he'll be bankrupt. 😊
One day all your profits will be wiped out 😂
@@interestsavvy6813 that'd be true if you choose to professionally train yourself in derivatives, and use them for what they are actually made for. And in this audience here, including you, im pretty sure, have no clue what its real use is. otherwise its just gambling, and whatever you said is what every gambler says.
Ye accha call deta hai .
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I have deployed 1.5L in options and traded for 6 months i have gained some days and i have lost some all along the path however my net to net PnL was zero like i gained nothing i lost nothing but my loss is 40K and it was the brokerage charges stamp duty and other taxes 😂 but after this i sat and studied for 1 and half years and learnt how it works and made decent sum in hedging and selling options so end of the story please learn first and then earn. Happy trading all
if you are making money someone else is loosing, keep that in mind before promoting it.
@@user-ij9vi6sn8gthat is what the market is all about..even in equity one is losing and other is earning
@@user-ij9vi6sn8g so? are you out of your mind or what?....
@@user-ij9vi6sn8g almost every businesses is like that. Someone's loss is Someone's profit.. be it ur branded shoes, clothes, jewellery and what not..
Now that the risk warning has been given, now we really need a whole series on it explaining the whole options stuff from buying/selling puts and calls. Awesome video! 👏
A relative of mine has lost in upwards of 5-6 Crs(over 10+ years) and still remains equally inclined to do it day by day 🙏
jab profitable banenge toh 2 saal Mai recover karke profit Mai honge
😂@@timepass-mj4hb
Why do you think they are still invested in it?
Same
@@timepass-mj4hb lol good joke bro😂😂keep hustling and losing money👍👍
I wish you were there 5 years back. All the episodes are relatable and I learnt it hard by losing money. Even this episode is to the point. I actually got into options trading, followed some telegram channels, made a few thousand and then entirely lost it. As revenge, I entered to get back the money and find myself in a trap to lose more money. Then I stopped investing.
Guys, I will look forward to your episode where I can use options to work in favour, as my capital has grown over 20 Lacs.
Love your work. Pls keep educating the community. Thanks 😊
Thank you for sharing your story. We’ll show it to everyone at the office. Stuff like this pushes us to do what we do. Thank you Arvind ❤️
Your videos are so good! Editing, scripting all of it is S-class tier.
Last year I lost 21 lakhs , and this year also I lost more than 10lakhs.. now I'm in big loan and can't repay emi. The major problem is even after getting knowledge discipline is what stops you from getting consistently profitable. And you can't leave it after sometime as no other way can recover you this faster from losses. If you're not disciplined strictly stay away from options trading. I make big profits and even if I encounter small loss which is part of the game I can't control my mind and keep revenge trading and end up in losing all earned profits and capital also. I know decipline can save me but my brain works only after market is closed.
Mine is also Same story.
Same story, totally clueless how to get out of thi trap
Don’t worry try to do this:~
1. Risk management
2. Single trade a day
3. Trade only in your setup which you mastered
4. If loss in your setup close laptop for a day don’t take trade
Do this for 6 month you will get that discipline
@ adv_abhi this is the phase everyone will go through this
Story of those 9 traders out of 10.
Just do swing trading and that is what I do, it is slow and many times position don't move for months but 2x overall on combined position is possible
Good one. I have been in the market since 2019 and was very disciplined and was making good money in FnO for long period of time. I was also doing swing trading in equity.
The cycle in FnO was like- I make good profit and I loose it double, I make again and I loose it double. But in swing trade I was able to make decent profit percentage every year, with lesser charges,time and knowledge.
So I understood that even after knowing everything in FnO you will loose money for multiple reasons, the reports are not wrong. In equity you can be right with very basic knowledge.
There is no quick money scheme in markets.Even if you get the FnO takes it back.
Investing and short term trade can make you decent money and its a skill that is valuable over the time.
Correct ✅
Trading can become an addiction. This video says it all simply. Good one.
I personally know people who lost all their savings and income gambling F&O….they’re just not convinced it’s not possible to make sustainable profits in options GAMBLING and still continue to do it.
How do you think they can get convinced to understand its risks?
Most of the people's not get convinced instead they do revenge trades and end up with huge unpredict losses.. they should understanding of their financial stuff & market knowledge to control the risks..
Please keep continue to teach us in a funny gesture. Uncut portion is really soothing …
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@prateek, Literally this video should have been the first video in your playlist. What a detail content. Impressed
Hey thanks Shiva :)
i have lost 10 lakhs in option buying since 2021 but now after getting NISM certification i have switched into option selling and trade with small lots , now after spending 3 years in derivative market i can say u cannot make money in option buying it is tough as hell u cannot predict markets..
How is option selling easier compared to buying?
@@cuteandfunanimals8841 high margin , low quantity , decay premium benefits
Need high level mindest to be successful in option buying. It is not for every one.
@@cuteandfunanimals8841 Decay is the best friend of option selling. It takes time but option selling gives you small but much more consistent and stable profits over a long period of time.
But my view is if you can afford option selling then buy bulk delivery in dips, it is much safer though requires quite a bit of research still 1000 times Better than options.
Please make a second part of the video that talks more about option trading in more detail with two different examples(Loss and Profit)!
All true what you’ve said!!!! IT AIN’T GAMBLING!! However, if you study be learnt and work hard on your skills you can make it.
I know option without knowledge is very risky but if you give time then you can learn. I Have been in market after COVID and did all shit that amateure does ,but know genuinely trying to learn by doing just paper trading or small quantity
You sound like you know the how's, the why's, the if & but, make sense...but then question why sebi instituted the study,why they rub your nose in it at login and why zero da put out this video.
It's good to have knowledge about the market before actually trading.
But paper trading doesn't always provide you accurate market simulations. So, make sure that you set you understand the difference between real and paper trading.
@@Zero1byZerodha paper trading is for nerds... People who have time to devote.... I was in a paper trade mid yesterday... Nifty 24k Ce naked call... 498-500/lot...sell today at 620...next day same time. I don't take these trades anymore... Love to paper trade.
I have traded in just 1 lot for years as part of learning. Slowly moving from small losses to no-profit-no-loss to making small profits now. One day I’ll be part of the elite few but until then it’s constant learning, taking calculated risks, sticking to a strategy, keeping strict stop loss and inculcating discipline into the process.
Right 👍
Lost 40k in revenge trading in my early days but happy to invest in long term and build 1 cr portfolio as of now
How long did it take for you?
Okay, I'll have to say this. This video is much needed for the beginner fno trader.
However, I've recovered a lot of my losses in the market because I was holding short positions in FnO.
Basically, my portfolio going down during the crashes, made me more money than I lost because I'd sold some hedged positions.
Do I repeat this every month and make money? Yes.
Does it make sense to everyone to do? Absolutely not.
I only do covered calls and hedged shorts. Anything where I know my loss and profit are not defined, I'll just shut up and not do it.
That salary example was personal 😂
Lost so much back to back and decided to learn about it as much as possible.
Still learning 😅 and yes for sure it is nothing but gambling 😂.
Risk apatite is important in options and that's what people don't understand.
I urge your team to make a series on psychology because that's what we lack.
Filed 150+ ITR this time, 50% were exposed to F&O. 95% lost money.
one fellow was so much in delusion, had a salary of 14 Lakh but lost to futures + brokerage 11 Lakhs. I suggested that he stop doing this, and he told me to just book the loss so that he could lower his tax liability this year. I hope he gets out of this soon.
A much needed video 🙌 and theta decay concept mentioning In video is too precious 🙌
I think this video deserves 2nd part, you know when i had this conversation with a friend of mine he screwed me wrong by stating some technical analysis which kind a seem legit to all ppl and i think Thisis what had influenced on lot of ppl.
Can you explain a bit more? What kind of technical analysis and why did it seem so legit?
We would love to know more.
@@Zero1byZerodha I don't know a lot about it but there's a 1000s fluencers promoting this regards trade. Some candle stick pattern stuff , how the fluencers influence this with motive of history repeats itself it means they believe if in the chart today x pattern is shown before the market blown up , let's say not today not tomorrow but a week later the same pattern seems in screen it means I'll again blow up and that's how PPL sounds professionally but I believe blowing up or dumping down are the effects of supply and demand and this S&D could have various economic reason how could a single static can give an accurate data.
I'm not against of trading at all but think about it there's an economist who has 1000s of data with him just to make him a single decision on the other hand PPL only have a this single price static and this could help to predict price at some extent.But at some
You know where I feel the problem is, we have fluencer they influence PPL in 2 kind ,1st is they tell PPL study the whole branches of organisation before investing and PPL wisely becomes investor that is totally fine.
Here's a 2nd kind of fluencers comes in and they influence PPL in a way that it doesn't needed to care at all what's happening with organisation they just want to grow quickly where this fluencers fill the gap and give the know about 🕯️ or something.And guess what they make it this genuine that PPL started thinking that this knowledge is enough to enter in market as an active trader but they didn't realise there's a lot many thing happened in backend.
So,what i needed from you in 2nd part is let's have an awareness video for PPL to know what actually drives the candle stick patterns and it isn't meant a lot while trading
I don't know a lot about it but there's a 1000s of fluencers promoting tthis. Some candle stick stuff, it means what they say is 'history repeats itself'.Lets understand with this ex letssay the security blown up after showing x pattern. and if the same pattern has shown security after a week then security will blown up again but it isn't coz at the end of the cycle it's just an data of Supply and Demand .
You know what fluencer follow this thing and make it sound professional, and that's make threat for lot of PPL coz PPL aren't aware about what factors are driving that candle it just an piece of Statics but there's lot many economic factors plays a role in fluctuations but PPL aren't taking it into consideration specially genzi's.
Fluencers advertise trading misleadingly they make PPL beleive that that is for them but in reality there's a lot of big PPL are there in economy and they are having all possible understanding, all possible data how could a individual stand over there.
You know what I see from 2nd part of this is let PPL have awareness about that 🕯️ are not enough data you're having to predict the prices it's just a single statistical data there are many various data they're supposed to take into consideration while trading.
Genuinely what is needed burst the bubble of so called candle patterns.
i started as investor 2021, later after watching some youtube videos tried options trading, always the first trade gives you good return investment around 10k return 2.5 k . the first trade. i was so happy. i want to explore options trading watched 100 's of youtube videos for 3 years. simultaneously trading some days profit somedays loss. after 1 year. overall P&L was Rs: -40000. stopped trading for 6 months. watched multiple youtube videos almost 9-10 hrs a day. started with small capital 10 k 1 lot. again first trade is Rs 1000. profit. lost 10 k in 2 months. i have learned so many things. but still cant make money. finally stopped options trading. overall i have made around 50 k losss. my friend invested 1 lack in 2021. now he is holding with profit of 2 lacks.
It can be profitable if u come in reality then a imagination....like not thinking of 100% or 200% .....only wants a returns of 5% or 10% with 1 trade ......and also manage ur risk and reward ....📈
Trading in FnO is for extremely discpline people only. You have to learn so much about trading before entering, otherwise you will loose your entire wealth like me.
Wow...we have a Buddha here... he's actually achieved nirvana
What were the reasons for you entering the market?
Yes, once you learn from your past mistakes. Options will be making money for you
@@interestsavvy6813 no it wont be. understand why derivates are used for first. then think if you still wanna trade. bcs otherwise its just gambling
@@Zero1byZerodha highly rewarding.. you can double the capital in qucik time
Very good video. I've been in the options market from 2011. Lost a fortune and making it back. It took me almost a decade to understand the tricks of the trade (I'm a slow learner).
It's not easy making money here though it is very simple. It is as easy and simple as losing weight. Have you ever tried dieting, etc??? 😀😀😀
I would very much appreciate if you would make video on risk control techniques.
I, strongly believe, risk control is the key to this puzzle. I became profitable only after I learnt to position size.
Please share your position size learning here
@@swapnilpatil8176 Position sizing helps in controlling risk. This way you will be there in the market when the good moves come. I keep my SL far and position size such that my risk is never more than 3% of my trading capital.
The more you learn in options the more you loose😂
😂😂well said
Correct😂😂😂
I was sitting with a friend at my college once, he was a f&o trader and I am an equity investor. I asked him 'How profitable are you?' He said 'Not as simple, sometimes you lose sometimes you win' and he asked me what I did in the market and if I was profitable? I said 'I invest in equity and I am profitable' What he said next blew my mind "Being profitable in equity is very easy, F&O is where you need the game"
What was your response to this?
I think that's another reason why people love FnO. It probably seems cool to talk about
Guys, please don’t change the camera angles frequently. It’s affecting my concentration on the video.
Noted! Will give the feedback to the editing team :)
Changing the zoom may work. Changing the angle has negative effect.@@Zero1byZerodha
Thank you Prateek sir for the great explanation on this most serious topic , where I can relate everything what happen while I was trading in F&O
Glad you liked the video :)
I once lost 27 rs in FnO and left it . That was my first FnO trade and I did to experience it.
Need of the hour video. Keep it up👍.
Thank you :)
I have lost around 4.5 Lakhs which my all time saving in between FY 2020 to 2022 in options... around 2 Lakhs was brokerage and charges .. I was obsessed with overtrading my flaws and my put down was over trading and lack of strategy , But the only thing i gained is i am familiar with price action trading now ...... and now helping friends to take short term trades and investment , now this is my restart in stock market and for now about 6 months we are in profit for around 3% per month .. Soon with proper mindset and strategy will enter to options again .... I have to win in this competitive exam 😇
Love the logo, it creates nostalgia of my childhood science shows
Your parallels were a lot like how concepts are explained in investopedia...🎉
LOVED THE WAY YOU SPEAK BRO
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I really can't thank you guys enough for these gems that keep sharing for free!
You people are leading Indian Investors to a smarter tomorrow! 👏👏👏
Kudos! Lots of Aashirwad and goodwill to you all!
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This is best format zerodha cracked to make educational videos I love the Indian innovation race in digital marketing we own this space now along with IT congratulations all my countrymen
Finally I got some clue today about Derivatives today, after watching this masterpiece
thanks a lot for this video...
much needed
i see too many people trying to be boss in this game without getting deep knowledge of how market works,
Your videos are very useful for beginners and the way you explaining make it clear. Keep going!!
Much needed video. Hope this helps a few who are addicted.
Beautifully explained for a noob like me! Thanks! 😊
I gave up but at hefty cost or dent to my physcology and trading overall .
And now I am very comfortable in trading in stocks .
Thank you prateek sir, I was considering doing options trading. Now I am going back to varsity and go through it thoroughly.
Glad we could "de-influence" you :)
such a proper reasoning on why govt. wants to lower f&o trades by newbies through taxing and stuff and FM gave such a bad responce...
If you do it without knowing it's gambling,if you do it with knowledge it's business.
The summary is, Small profits and big losses, anyone can relate, me too. 😊
It’s been 3 years since Zerodha has launched kill switch. But did guys aware of it that it’s worthless, because until unless it will be automatically closed segment after a certain number of trades preset by us or after a certain amount of loss. Then only it will fullfill the purpose of kill switch. I don’t understand why Zerodha is not launching this, just because of brokerages? Then I have to switch to another broker.
What do you mean by kill switch? 😢 please elaborate it bro
@@user-rs8oq5yv3ekill switch is closing a segment eg - equity, F&O or commodity for the day, so that you can not take any fresh trades. This feature is introduced to reduce over trading.
Beautifully explained... Please keep doing more episodes 🙏
Option trading can NEVER make you rich.
Harsh but true
I'm glad i made almost 80% mistakes in low cap.. Taking time on learning now😅
Sir you explain the things.. at your best.
If I start your video.. i always complete that.
Perfectly explained each and everything with best examples
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Informative , very good
I am one of the F and O trader who has lost 35k of my capital . At the starting I am roughly 70k and lost it all so another lesson to the viewers you might win at starting but one trade can ruin all the profits so please be cautious
This is the best video I ever seen it about Option , such a simplistic explanation ❤
Nicely presented, very good one, the video content is just getting better and better
De-influence series are the best
i was addicted to becoming successful in option trading , i was obsessed trying different strategies couldn't keep the obsession in control but now only doing long term investment .
Very informative.. can u also please cover
option writing, physical delivery and margin calls
I am in the mode of revenge trading. A year ago I lost 30k of my parents money. I made 8% in a month in equity which I feel was decent and lost every penny in FnO. But now as I am earning I will go again in the FnO market. I am learning it I am learning about derivatives, theta decay, delta, gamma, option spreads like straddle strangle. I will hedge but I will earn. I will not lose from FnO
Happy journey to you, towards bankruptcy
@@mikethornet7842 😂 your comment made my day!
😂@@mikethornet7842
@@mikethornet7842exactly 😂
Lamao
Thanks for de-influencing F & O trading
Awesome bro.... Love all your videos. And mostly the content on Varsity.
You are a born teacher.
Thanks a million for your valuable time and invaluable lessons
I love teaching. Glad it shows through the lens too 😬
deinfluence intraday trading next please! 📣🫂
amazing content! loved it! ☑️💫🚀
I had shifted to option selling from buying. So with 1 lac i sell one option and my stoploss is 3-4000 and also my target is same. It has definitely increased my overall PnL.
I made 7k rupees in profit but did not get greedy even though I lost some money. I kept my investment same and avoided days where the volatility was high. Although I started coz my dad said so coz he is very much in profit but I started small and still learning the basics and theory. I'm sitting on a profit of 1k so down from 7 to 1. Still learning and understanding. Most comedic thing is that I paid around 1.5k in taxes from the profit I made😂
Currently in the same loop as you explained. Made losses of 3 Lakh+ in 2 months but still in the mindset of capital recovery
make Equity Intraday video
Coming soon 🤫
I tried forex , F&O , intraday etc.eventually what I personally conclude that long-term investment is best as compared
Zero1 rocks 🎉
Relating to the gold digger and shovel seller story, can you point out the shovel sellers in options trading ?
Most option traders say that people lose money in options due to the lack of discipline. But now I hear about something called the algo trading, in which everything is automated based on your strategy. Also you can back test your stategy. I just wanted to know, does algo trading actually work? Are people actually making money using an algo trading setup?
Nice awareness video. My friend lost 1.5lakhs because of this F nd O. He s from very humble background working in software industry.
Three concepts that are legal but my mind cannot accept: Option Trading, Astro Talk like concepts and Dream 11 concept.
@@sumanmitra202 whatever you are smoking... it's working
Best channel on finance
You know what India needs ..... It needs daily expiry options ....
Much needed information for beginners
Bro the data is from 2022. Markets doubled from November-2023. Please provide updated data....
I lost around 1 lakh in 2021-22 bcz I didn't know how they works. Then I learned it properly, tracking world markets, macro economics, Hedging, using colletral of shares to sell options stretegies, etc.
Zerodha varsity helped me a lot. And guess what I earned above 2.5 lakhs in 2023-24.
We're glad you found Varsity helpful :)
@@harshil13yt Hip Hip hurrah...we have a winner... he's that 5%... Hey wait a minute...he said 2.5 lacs...does that mean...Rs.3,400??
I'm confused by SEBI 😉
What was the principal amount by which you gained that money?
@@birajde3649 Around 20 lakhs. But it's collateral from equities which can be obtained by pledging them to your broker. In my case it was zerodha.
Thanks for this channel by zerodha,
Please bring varsity all knowledge base in video so that people and we can understand better than text....
Appreciate your videos simple and understanding in simple English....
whole life is gamble. #HardTruth
Thank You, Prateek/Zero1/Zerodha! This video is superb!
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Glad you liked it :)
I do options trading a lot
Lost too much money
But I agree to the point that it is addicting, lucrative, easy entry, less capital to enter.
Iam a College student aged 23 , First of all , I really wanted to appreciate the efforts of the whole team. Your way of presentation is fantastic. Your comedy , body guestures all are so perfect.
Okay now i want to share my person experience on trading , I started and explored the world of stock , when I was in 11th std. I was unaware of the markets , but my thought process was , just buy some random company (penny stock) , and when price increase just sell it , and take the profit. It was good where i have made 28k profit (by investing 1 lakh rs) over 6 to 8 months.
Then i started buying a middle range stocks (₹200- 300), and waited to increase money. But it crashed that i lost around 30k , i waited around 1 year thinking it would rebound. But it never happened and the money was a gold loan from my mother.
Then i promised myself not to invest money without studying.
I then downloaded varsity app and still now studying the technicals, options , fundamental etc.
I binge watch your youtube videos and try to note down the points too ..
Once again your videos are superb.❤
Follow ca Rachana ranade for fundamentals and rayner teo for technicals youdont need anything else . And stay away from options ..
Just when people are learning how to make money from it.
Zerodha and Sebi wants to de influence it and kick the small guys out.
Continue to de-influence, zero1 rocks!!!
Options trading is really great if you do it for the thrill of being green. Money instills greed; Try trading without prioritising money.
A very easy way to trade options is by having discipline. For instance, you trade 30,000 Rs., place a stop loss at 1500 Rs. Which basically means you're out of the trade when you lose 5% and keep a target of 3000 Rs. No matter how tempting it is, you close the trade if either the stop loss or the target is met.
I know all of this sounds very cliche, but its practial, reasonable and skill-based to an extent. Out of every ten trades aim to make 4 or 5 green trades, that's a net profit :)
My first trade in F&O. I made nearly ₹3000 profit.
its all about mindset
The era of DEINFLUENCING is here
For instance, in some competitive exams like the IBPS (Institute of Banking Personnel Selection) exams, the success rate can be around 1-2%1. This means that out of every 100 applicants, only 1 or 2 might secure a job.
Which means, its tougher than f&o 😂😂😂😂
I started trading on futures from april this year....made about 2.5 lakh profits in two month....and then election day and budget day evaporated all my profits....point is never trade during big event days....it cost me more than 2 lakhs to learn this lesson😢... Market sometimes open huge gap ups or down....Thats the most dangerous thing bcz at gaps you r trading without stop loss... Gaps is the reason i lose big money... As i was carry forwarding my fut trades on election result day and market falls heavily on that day
I made 4.8 lakhs in August month. Lost all my profits on 29th August. Option trading is very difficult
the only financial youtube channel that cares for us thanks team you guys are educating and aware people ❣❣
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Was waiting for this video
Thank you ❤
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@Zero1byZerodha loved it and the efforts u guys are putting in the video can be seen easily
Great video..
Much needed
From my experience F&O is, knowing where to start and stop. Setting a weekly goal instead of blindly trading is much better. My capital is 3 lakhs and my weekly goal is 20k, which means 80k a month and it is very easily achievable. I know most of you guys will say that I can make more money with that much capital, but I don't need that much money. My monthly expense is only 12k rupees so making 80k a month is like a fortune to me. I have been a greedy ass in past and lost a lot of money on overtrading.I found the real mistake was trading aimlessly(jitna mile utna jaldi jaldi lelo mentality). I am taking things very slow now, with low risk and less tension. As my capital will increase, my profit will also slightly increase.
7 percent a week is easy??
Lol