Walking London's Lost Rivers - The Tyburn (4K)
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- A walk along the course of one of the lost Rivers of London - The Tyburn. This buried river flows from Hampstead through Swiss Cottage and Regent's Park, along Marylebone Lane, through Mayfair and Green Park beneath Buckingham Palace where it splits into channels and we follow it as it joins the Tachbrook to make its confluence with the Thames near Vauxhall Bridge.
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This makes me realize how much I miss London.
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John,
I'm reasonably sure that the pipe you were looking for that takes the Tyburn over the Regents Canal was in shot at 10.41.
Had you done this walk about 3 years ago, you would have been able to go to the basement of the antiques market just south of Oxford St at Davies Street, by Bond Street tube station, as you say, with the stream running through it. That bit of the antiques market has now been demolished and a hotel put on its spot. There was even a little bridge over the stream which had goldfish in it! I may even be able to claim to have crossed a bridge over the Tyburn.
I think I've got a photo somewhere if of interest.
A.
In falconry there are two types of mews: the freeloft mews and traditional mews. Traditional mews usually consist of partitioned spaces designed to keep tethered birds separated with perches for each bird in the partitioned space. Many birds can be safely and comfortably housed in this setup. Traditional mews must be accompanied by a weathering yard to allow captive raptors adequate time outside as most traditional mews do not permit tethered raptors to spend time outdoors.
Freeloft mews allow captive raptors more freedom of motion, but require much more space, as usually only one raptor may safely occupy the much larger chambers. Mews chambers can be as small as 36 square feet (3.3 m2) but are frequently much larger, often occupying as much space as a small house and sometimes reaching as high as three storeys. Birds are allowed to fly free within the chamber, and very often can choose between a number of perches.
The word "mews" came from French muer = "to change".
thanks for that info
Fascinating , thank you 🙏🏻
A great read. I have learned so much watching these videos and reading the comments.
Also Mews were where horses were Stabled which is probably more ikely in a lot of these Mews as there were 1000's of horses used for Omnibuses, and Taxis etc - Back to Sherlock Holmes he was always nipping out in a two wheeler. I guess some had a dual use in the older ones where they kept both Falcons and horses.
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I used to be based in London during the 90’s while serving with the Irish Guards, I wish we could have access to the same information back in those days, I would have loved to follow the same routes along the forgotten rivers. Absolutely fascinating stuff, thank you!!!
My pleasure Darren - thanks for watching
Thank you John a nice long walk/Video for the new year i love it
thanks 4thEyeVision
Very interesting, and nice shots of London in search of the river Tyburn!
Just keep discovering more and more of your videos. . You must have covered hundreds of mile with your walks 👍🏻
Hello John, when I walked the Tyburn (Feb 2018) I found the Basement 'Tyburn' on South Molton Lane, where you find Davies Mews slightly off to the right - In the Mews section of Gray's Antique Market. This is unlikely to be the actual river/sewer, but connected to the same groundwater springs - it has to be quite pure as it contains koi carp and is open topped - a sight to behold! Thanks for another amazing walk.
My reference material was Tom Bolton - London's Lost Rivers - A Walkers Guide.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grays_Antique_Centre
thanks Shrubbie - I should have looked a bit harder, but I was more looking for that coffee at that stage
Thank you John for another fascinating video.A great way to start off the new year. Looking forward to your other river walks that you have planned
thanks Humble - I really want to walk some rivers outside London this year
just great,i think I will watch again.thanks for all the information on London.must check out and watch the lot
Thanks again for another informative video John. I always glean a lot of information from your films. Bob.
thanks Bob
Another really wonderful fascinating walk, I will be watching it again, there is so much to take in and see...as usual love listening to your commentary, so enjoyable and relaxing! What an absolute great start to 2019...thank you John! 👍
Thanks k - it was a wonderful walk, I think this is going to be a great year of wanderings
I worked in Mayfair for many years and used to see on cold, still mornings, mists hanging in Lansdown Row which often floods t the entrance to Berkeley Street. Loving the work John, just finished the book, keep it coming.
thanks Keith
Fascinating insights, thank you. Some great comments here too with extra gems of local knowledge!
thanks Debbie - yes I always look forward to the comments, a real mine of information
Great start to the new year John. I wish you could do a walk every day. Keep them coming.
thanks John - I'd love to do a walk every day, maybe in the future
Great vlog to start the year. Thanks for sharing SMILES
thanks C Gj
Fantastic, as always. The wonderful magical buried veins and arteries of London. Thanks John.
thanks Tracey
really love the diverse architecture on this one John. My favourite upload, amongst many. So informative. Many thanks.
What a great video, thanks for making this.
thanks Michael
In 1984, in my first journey in London, I knew the Fleet river story, So I began to study the lost rivers of London and - in the same time - the story about the lost rivers of Rome (my city). Thanks a lot for the videos, John Rogers
Aaaah wonderful London. I worked in Belsize Park in the early 90s. That was a fascinating look at the underground rivers - thank you again for taking us with you. Love the views and the history.
thanks Roxy
Wonderful video, John. I've spent some time in the City of London during the holidays, so this brings back lots of memories. . Your explorations into the hidden topography of the "lost rivers" in that area are simply fascinating.
thanks very much - there's something special about following a buried river
Great stuff. This is a really interesting video.
Thank you John for yet another very very interesting Video of London.
Lyn and I always feel quite relaxed and you make us feel like we are actually there.
Kind regards
Dave and Lyn ….. from Australia.
that's brilliant to hear Dave and Lyn
Another informative, enlightening film; the addition of a Google map of the walk is a thing of beauty. Thank you.
thanks Ian
I absolutely loved this walk, thank you John. Finally moving back to my adopted home London next year after hastily moving out a few years ago and regretting it every single day since. Your videos give me so much comfort.
Another very informative video John.As someone who has only visited tourist sites whilst visiting London it is always interesting to see other areas of the city.
Another visitor from David Johns here :) Excellent stuff and very glad I came. Looking forward to watching your back catalogue and your upcoming episodes.
thanks gillywild - hope you're enjoying the videos
Awesome mate - a top job
thanks Richard
Wonderfully interesting and informative video's delivered in such relaxed, informal style.
Nice one John. That's my evening's entertainment sorted.
thanks Jason - hope you enjoyed it
Such an interesting walk, great stuff John 👍🙂
Thanks Ronnie- I love doing river walks
@@JohnRogersWalks I often walk the river Slea near where I live in Lincolnshire, there is something magical and peaceful about being near the flowing water, I also love the sea 👍🙂
Very good John.
Thank you
thanks Little Acorns
I am here via David shoutout😊. You are right it was a great walk. You had me gripped from start to finish. I look forward to joining you on future walks.
thanks so much Kat - I also love David's channel. Many great walks ahead in 2019
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I really enjoyed that, John. It brightened up my day no end.
Would love to hear more about Rainbow George and Peter Cook. As he might of said, no doubt some of it is "pure gold".
thanks brY an - check out the link in the description to the interview I shot with George a few years ago
@23:50 - I went to that cafe last Friday and sat in that exact same seat in the back corner! How odd! Great video as always by the way..
This video is absolutely wonderful, I love trying to work out what the original landscape before urbanisation was likde. I call it "Urban Forensics". Also, love watching you walk around my old stomping ground, I now live in Bangkok, and it's great to watch videos of old London in the heat of a Bangkok night. Great history, great memories. Thanks John !
That was so interesting,and a glimpse of pre-covid life.
Love this video! I have watched it again tonight. Walking through London in the evening, going down the narrow streets during and after the Christmas season, seeing the lights and the people, is on the top of my travel list. Thanks for taking me there again. Too bad I can't give this video a second like!
This video is absolutely enthralling. So many areas that I know so well. Gosh I have drank at the Olde Swiss Cottage pub many a time. Great stuff, John! We'll have to do one of Hammersmith, Barnes and Richmond.
thanks Bob - yes Hammersmith will happen soon I think
@@JohnRogersWalks I can give you some tips on that one. Do you have a blog/website?
I love these walking tours and can't wait to get down to London and do some myself when my broken ankle is healed and I'm walking again
Destined to be a royal river John. I enjoyed that especially the discovery of the Walbrook sign. All buried in our midst. Great stuff! I Look forward to your river walks - I have a few this year to. All the best Mark.
cheers Mark
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‘Meandering riverine vibe’...a truely wonderful walk John, so much info and juicy facts.. Rather strange to see you outside Buckingham palace.
thanks Jag, I know, I felt strange outside Buckingham Palace
Another fascinating walk! Hampstead is one of my favourite parts of London and I also was excited to see the HMV record shop because I had a summer job there in about 1970 while I was at University - in fact I think I was two summers there. I worked in the classical department downstairs and customers could hear records (I think this was even before cassettes came in!) before buying them, in listening booths. Quite a few famous people came in the store and I remember once telling off Andre Previn (without knowing who it was) for putting a pile of records on the hot glass counter above one of the record players. Another time I had a phone query from a lady with a rather characteristic voice - when I asked her name, it turned out to be Glynis Johns, who was more famous then than now probably. We also had a customer - an older man - who looked exactly like Tchaikovsky. Some of the other assistants would call out 'Look, Tchaikovsky's back!' when he turned up - which he must have heard, but he didn't react. And again I had customers who would say - I'm looking for a piece that goes la la la lalalala la.....la! do you stock it? Oops, I'm rambling - John, you always seem to trigger happy memories even looking for a hidden river! Amazing!
such a cozy lookin city , I love how the lights and shops look
A credit to you sir!
Magical... I’ve ‘Subscribed’!
thanks William
Thank you for the info about Ben Aaronovich’s London River books. I needed a book recommendation.
they're magnificent, you won't be disappointed
Another classic, John. These river walks are an excellent idea & this one turned into a night walk, too. Enjoyed the little 'sustenance on the go' interludes. A subject for a future chapbook, perhaps?
thanks very much Mark. It's funny that when my book was published I sent a 'care package' of walking related sustenance mentioned in the book - cans of stella, murray mints, veg samosas - to the publishers as a thank you
Another David Johns viewer now subscribed here. Already a favourite channel and steadily working my way through the videos - the quality of filming, presentation and detail is broadcast TV level, even the music adds to the whole. Absolutely brilliant.
PS while mews originates as a falconry term, in the context of those streets in London it refers to stables which is fairly clear if you look at the architecture. (IIRC, London’s royal stables were built on the site of the king’s old falconry thus seeing the word move from birds to horses - an etymologist’s dream!)
Thanks for subscibing On Y Va - and also for the note of the origin of the Mews
Great video, I too found my way here from Cruising the Cut.
thanks for coming to the channel Tomas - hope you enjoy the videos
fabulous as always
Thank you for the video. Fascinating. There is an underground brook that runs under the gardens of my street and then discharges into the Thames about a mile from me but I can only find out a little about it.
Which area of London is that Jen? Try searching on British History Online they may well be something there
Fantastic! I can have a walk through London with an expert guide from my cozy desk located in the coastal grasslands of Texas, between Victoria and Goliad. Cheers... fascinating!
Isn't the internet awesome?!
and that's a wonderful image for me William - wonderful to think of the walks being shared in Texas
To be honest I'm doing this walk whilst on holiday in Malta, it's great
Rainbow George has just informed me that it was Perrin’s Walk where he lived next door to Peter Cook, not Perrin’s Court
With the pc version of ViewRanger, when you use the zoomed in layer, the Tyburn appears to cross near the end of Charlbert St. and Prince Albert Rd. There also appears to be a path across the canal at this point. The map shows the Tyburn picking up overland on the SE side of the canal.
I’ve been following CTC as well, and was happy to see David’s shout out.
In the case of a London 'mews', I understood the word means a converted stables.
Lovely video, John - a real glimpse of some of those picturesque passages and alleys.
Oh - and Avery Row: maybe Avery is the same as Overie, meaning over the river,
as at Southwark.
I thought the same that the mews were where the horses and carriages were kept by the servants and that is why the streets were cobbled.
Not one dislike on this video. John we all love you bro keep up all the good work 🔥👍🏽
Thanks so much Leo
This will be my first time going to England for my internship this summer and I’m beyond excited. I’ve watched so many vlogs including yours and learn about the british culture. I’m still learning haha.
how amazing these walks are... and watching them 2 years later makes me long for those times when we could walk the cities freely, and all we had to worry about was not to being run over by a bus or a car... I read Rivers of London! I knew I needed more context to actually understand the characters. Then I sarted with moon over Soho but a third of the book in I sort of lost interest, sadly. I hope one day I can get back to that series!
What fun! Thanks John.
Just a thought: maybe the pipe over Regent's Canal was within the structure of the masonry bridge at 10:42?
I was on Fitzjohn's Avenue today, and I've come home and seen you have a video about it... This is great! now I get to learn about it!
Wonderful. I love London in the dark.
I'm here thanks to David Cruising the cut. Mews a small street lined with former stables that have been converted into housing. Wish you had started the walk earlier :-). Great video.
thanks Vic
Fascinating walk as always, thank you! As usual I got sidetracked from the issue at hand and was intrigued by the sculptures in Bourdon Place (24:55). Google identified them as the works of sculptor Neal French - depicting a female passerby watching photographer Terence Donovan (who had a studio in the vicinity) on a photo shoot with Twiggy (not visible in your video). That is why I love your videos, John - lots of things to notice and learn and opportunities for one's imagination to take flight. I also think I saw the Queen waving from one of the windows in Buckingham Palace. Oh, maybe not.
wonderful bit of detail Mariana. There was actually a plaque outside Terence Donovan's studio further down on Bourdon Street and I wondered if there was a link - but wish I'd known it was Twiggy!
Great mini documentary thanks
Another great video, thanks John. A channel you may like is Martin Zero following history and rivers in Manchester. Cruising the cut is great too. Thanks again from Perth, WA.
Fascinating river for me, only really took notice of this river since watching John's videos. All because the river has caused me a bit of grief down the years, I got called several times to deal with periodic flooding situations at the Grays Antiques Market in London's West End, a light bulb moment when I first watched this video, the market suffers quite badly from flooding, checked the drains and they were okay but it flooded quite badly with sewegy water, but I did some research and found that the river flows right underneath the market, but I'm guessing down the years that foul water has been plumbed into this river, sadly.
The Lost Rivers Of London Book brought me here. Such a fascinating subject John. Many thanks!
many thanks Steve - glad you enjoyed it, I'm endlessly fascinated by the lost rivers
Hi John great walk there is a map from 1931 showing sewers and the tyburn river around Regents park is known as the Kings Scolars Pond and skirts the park to the west and then follows your walk all the way to buck house then to pimlico
Brilliant I was trying to remember the name of that sewer
Great video John, David’s the reason I’m now following you.
The Us ambassador’s is actually on the edge of the park.
I love walking the regents canal, I’m scratching my head thinking I have seen reference to Tyburn here some where!
Regards Nigel
thanks Nigel - David's a wonderful man
Yes John, It is magical!
Great video John. As soon as you said the word 'riverine' I thought of Apocalypse Now: you are on a solo voyage along a river while other people on their own journeys intersect yours, and the river ends in a palace and a place of execution. Oh, and you also had a nod to 'Purple Haze' with the Hendrix reference.
that's a fantastic summary and linkage M H - thanks
I think this has been the best exploration involving streets so far. I really got a feel for the lay of the land which is odd for me when it is an urban setting. When you came to that curve in the road I just thought to myself, 'what else could that be other than building originally sprung up along the bend in a river'.
thanks Michael
Thank you Mr. Rogers,as interesting as ever. In the early/mid 1960`s I worked for a firm of "casemakers" & export packers in the day`s when stuff was put in wooden crates & loaded onto ship`s.
We had a small branch to serve the London auction houses & dealers.We were located in "Haunch Of Venison Yard" that linked Upper Brook Street to South Moulton Street.The timber was stored in the basement that was always damp,& on occasion got flooded . Watching your film leads me to the conclusion that The Tyburn might have been the culprit?
Some years later I worked at 152 Fleet Street,a few doors down from "Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese" pub, & we had the same flooding issue in the basement.The River Fleet perhaps?
Thanks for those notes Anthony - always great to hear of evidence of the rivers' course. Yes, I'd say that was the Fleet -it runs beneath Farringdon Road down to the Thames
Awesome video! searched up river walking beacause today that's what we done on our school Geography trip today lmao😂👍🔥
Thanks Akash - sounds like a great Geography trip
It’s 10.21 pm on Monday 11 April 22 sooo enjoyable John.
Hi there John - great program. Winfield house is the official residence of the US. Ambassador. Built by Barbara Hutton in 1936 it stands alone opposite Hanover gate in the largest private garden in the capital after Buckingham palace. Named after her grandfather Frank Winfield Woolworth ( Yes, THE Woolworth). Married to Cary Grant she sold the house to the US. government for 1 Dollar in 1946.
Super video, I know some of the area but never visited Hampstead Heath. Would still love to wander round celeb spotting on the Heath and of course being spotted myself as a very minor celeb
A magnificent evening walk following the Tyburn. The twilight seemed magical for you John. I'm curious why so many rivers were piped up underground. It seems to me, at least in this day and age we've lost so much of what could be described as the charm a small brook or stream brings along it path. Happy New Year.
Rivers often went underground during Victorian development, usually because they were filthy by that time, and used as open sewers. Where I live In Bradford, West Yorkshire, it's well known that before the Victorians built over the river (Bradford Beck) it had become a danger to life due to gasses on the surface catching light!
that's fascinating Debbie. I read that the stench from the Fleet used to get so bad in summer they even moved people out of the prison
thanks Scott, I think magic gets released at twilight, sometimes it feels as if the whole objective of the walk is to arrive at that point
Loved this. I used to live on Crawford street. It is the basement of the Gray’s antiques that you were outside of. It’s been made into a channel in the basement. It’s magical.
Very interesting thanks 😁👍👏👏👏
Nice music. Very ambient.
At 9-41you pan around to Tyburn Bridge. The pipe is inside it!! Laternyou are literally standing on top of it. Great video. ;)
Hi John. I was searching for your video where you walked through Leyton and Leytonstone along the path of the Fillebrook. I couldn't find it and I wanted to make a comment. Where you got to the end at Ruckholt Rd, if you went a little further down you see a fence to the right (used to anyway) and over there towards the marshes, there was a large pipe with a continuous stream of water coming out and it came from the direction you walked. i remember going down there as a kid. It went through some concrete channels and joined Dagenham Brook.
Here it is Jason - we did discover a short stretch above ground running alongside the allotments that we assumed was the Fillebrook czcams.com/video/9w9VUm9DBj0/video.html
@@JohnRogersWalks Nice one John. I'll check it out. Next time I am in the area with my dog, I will jump over there and take a few snaps for you.
In the early 2000s I worked as a site engineer on a building that had been demolished and excavated down to sub basement level somewhere north of Avery street. We had an A1 scanned copy of an Bazalgette architectural drawing. Showing a section and plan view of the Tyburn brickwork conduit. It was an oval shape on its side about approximately 2.5-3m wide and 1.5-2m high . Can't remember how deep it was. It ran along just out side the periimeter of our site. Only worked at that site for 2 weeks but always remembered beautiful hand drawn technical drawing. He probably did not draw it himself but he had signed it off.
Great video. My company looks after a building in America sq and there is a drain cover with air slots where I park and about 3-5 Mtrs down . I cannot see anything however I can always hear running water.
that's interesting, really wished I'd found some running water
The area around Marlebourne still looks like the London I knew 50 years ago.
Winter is beautiful. The landscape is transparent.
Dear George, was the scourge of many a droll, late night radio host. Wonderful.
Magical evening walking.
By regents park you can here it rushing under the road if its quiet and definately here it by the drainage holes on the road if im correct it feeds the lake in the park too
Thanks Umar
Your video answered all my questions as i never knew whether it were a river or brook where it starts ends what its named
Hello John ,I love your channel , I've walked along the canal many times and I have seen a rather wide black pipe it's between ( I think ) the houseboats just prior to Edgeware Rd ? and the floating Chinese restaurant. It's on the left walking toward primrose hill .
Enjoyed the video. I have walk round Mayfair and Green Park a lot, not realising that the Tyburn run under where I was walking. I use to listen to Rainbow George on BBC Radio London in the mornings. Some mornings talking about the Rainbow Political Party.
thanks Steve. George is still phoning in to radio stations, I think mostly Talksport these days
Sorry this has taken so long. Sherlock Mews was York Mew South. Changed around 1936. Also found out that Baker Street between Marylebone and Paddington Street was York Place and was changed around 1920. Info from Charles Booths London, and Bruce’s London Street Name Changes.
You could easily plot the river's "former" route on GPS and walk it to see how close you are & where it is / was. A great vid.
thanks Richard
John there is a plaque on a wall on Lyndhurst road where it meets Akenside Road that shows the site of the Shepherds well. It’s visible on street view.
The house with the turret on Fitzjohns Avenue,amazing video John, Happy New Year.....sorry to hear about the 14 year old boy attacked and killed in Woking, very sad ....I binge read all the Rivers of London books last year,Tyburn is after the Thames one of the most complex and powerful characters.....You planning a New River walk to the ending at Roseberry Avenue/Sadlers Wells sometime ????
Happy New Year Leslie. Yes sad news about that lad. I've just started Foxglove Summer btw and have Hanging Tree waiting. Yes, the New River Walk has been on the list for a while but I thought I'd start at the New River Head and walk out back to the source
@@JohnRogersWalks look forward to that, you might need to split it as it's a long way, do up to Woodberry Down as the hidden bit, then the actual river seperately, I'm enjoying everything you do, going to start your book soon as I finish Alan's Jerusalem.....cheers
Thanks for another fascinating walk. What about The Tyburn Convent on Bayswater road? and the infamous and fabled Tyburn Treeat the end of Edgware Road?
Once again as I'm sitting down for lunch I get a notification for this film :) There is a God! If you could do one every day it would help my mood immensely ;)
Ha, wonderful to hear that reaction Karl. I too wish I could do one every day, maybe one day
This deserves to be a BBC4 documentary.
Handel also lived in Brook Street, next door to Hendrix, not at the same time obviously! The building is now the Handel House Museum, and I believe also has an exhibition about Hendrix. I must go and take a look sometime when we finally get out of this lockdown.