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Komentáře • 129

  • @david.cutipa
    @david.cutipa Před rokem +52

    Nothing better than a match between two wise old men.

    • @rhysioeren3203
      @rhysioeren3203 Před rokem

      Well, it was a fight extremely well handed by both of them. Not only by how strong the attacks were but how well they performed on the driving of those bots. Something refreshing from all that bs coming from rocket scientists and MIT kids that can't even get their bots running from the start. Very well done by both of them.

    • @austincharbonneau1206
      @austincharbonneau1206 Před 3 měsíci

      Wise man have there experience in battle

  • @Trakker1985
    @Trakker1985 Před 2 lety +101

    Yeah i think Beta's hammer broke a lot earlier than it seemed, Tombstone got a few glancing blows on the chain mechanism on the middle.
    0:43 you can see it trying to fire here, but it just couldn't follow through. If they could make the wedge a little taller to protect the axe mechanism more they could probably beat tombstone. but currently, it's just a little too exposed.

    • @Fiddlesticks258
      @Fiddlesticks258 Před rokem

      But they couldn’t use the terrorhurtz design since you can’t use the same bot in robot wars and battle bots

    • @Greanbeens14
      @Greanbeens14 Před 4 měsíci

      He’s not saying it should be the same, I think it should just be similar

  • @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988

    Beta lost because of the rules in this season requires you to use your primary weapon so after Beta's hammer went down it can't gain damage points. I'd like to see a rematch between these two with current rules

    • @DavidR212
      @DavidR212 Před 2 lety +15

      without that rule Tombstone still did way more damage it would have been the same outcome with current rules.

    • @nametab6415
      @nametab6415 Před 2 lety +8

      With current criteria I'd score this
      Damage 4-1 Tombstone
      Aggression 2-1 Beta
      Control 2-1 Beta
      Giving Tombstone the win 6-5 which seems fair in my book. You could deffo make an argument for control 3-0 Beta imo tho

    • @phoenixfire6559
      @phoenixfire6559 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nametab6415 Aggression category refers to primary weapon usage. Beta only fired it's weapon around 3 times and it stopped working after 30s, Tombstone's horizontal spinner worked all fight and did a ton of damage. Tombstone definitely wins that category but ramming it into the wall was clever so I guess it would score 2-1 in Tombstone's favour.
      If Beta avoided all the damage in the last minute of the fight, it could have won.

    • @mh8037
      @mh8037 Před rokem +1

      What are the current rules?

  • @williamdewit5432
    @williamdewit5432 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Win or loose, just laugh, enjoy the game and continue. Awesome to see.

  • @Venade_Velvet
    @Venade_Velvet Před 2 lety +18

    Man, beta so stable, best bot i have ever seen in this field.

  • @RennieAsh
    @RennieAsh Před 2 lety +12

    1:45 He should have listened to this advice for the next season he entered!

  • @maffia333
    @maffia333 Před 2 lety +4

    Боролись до конца, с расстоновкой, оба на хорошем уровне.

  • @teamboltergeist1920
    @teamboltergeist1920 Před 2 lety +20

    More hammerbots = more fun! Let's have more of this!

  • @robotcombatmodels8949
    @robotcombatmodels8949 Před 2 lety +196

    Always felt bad for Beta here, they were able to control the action of the majority of the fight. Unfortunately Tombstone managed to get that lucky shot in which took out the hammer base of Beta. Even despite that I think it was a toss up as to who would win as Tombstone didn't really do anything else. Another reason why damage shouldn't be the most heavily weighted category. It puts anything that isn't a spinner at a disadvantage.

    • @cdname47
      @cdname47 Před 2 lety +30

      Beta has to be lucky the whole fight, tombstone only has to be lucky once

    • @人間-失格
      @人間-失格 Před 2 lety +13

      But that is exactly what brings in the numbers - destruction. A clean fight can be impressive, but the impact of destruction is hard to match by simple control. While the control here did have some destructive elements by making tombstone injure itself, it still didn't accomplish much because in that respect, even after taking so much, tombstone still managed to run its p-weapon & get that shot as a matter of fact which shows both good attack & defense/endurance for the bot.

    • @mattstyles2498
      @mattstyles2498 Před 2 lety +6

      He barely even used his hammer

    • @marshmelows
      @marshmelows Před 2 lety +2

      I felt bad for Tombstone not to defeat Beta in 1 minute. Lucky bot

    • @ralphjohnticsay8771
      @ralphjohnticsay8771 Před 2 lety +4

      it didn't even look like beta is controlling, it looked like that thing in boxing where one hugs the other so that he can't punch, except here tombstone can still punch and do damage while being hugged
      driving under and doing nothing else is not "controlling" in my eyes

  • @thebrickfightingchannel
    @thebrickfightingchannel Před 2 lety +7

    One of my favourite fights of all time!

  • @TheSuperPlayer707
    @TheSuperPlayer707 Před 2 lety +8

    The unique tough battle which tombstone had this season alongside with the Yeti one.

  • @TheInvertedFollicle507
    @TheInvertedFollicle507 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Crazy how this doesn't have way more views considering how good of a fight it was and definitely one of the best from the entire 2016 season.

  • @smithyblue
    @smithyblue Před 2 lety +11

    Shame Beta didn’t win, but it didn’t back down against Tombstone even when the hammer was immobilised. Hopefully team Terrorhurtz will get in for the next season.

  • @tremere26
    @tremere26 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Beta's hammer not working is just a running gag dating back from killerhurtz :P

  • @FoxAndAxolotl
    @FoxAndAxolotl Před 3 měsíci +1

    I guess Beta learned from their mistakes as they did the same thing in season 5 against Rotator and won

  • @LilGatomp3
    @LilGatomp3 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Tombstone took the same control after him only after 2nd and 3rd season. That means Beta is future level of control

  • @mariodiezvallina8207
    @mariodiezvallina8207 Před 2 lety +2

    One of the best fights ever

  • @mattstyles2498
    @mattstyles2498 Před 2 lety +1

    Great to see Fon Davis. Huge fan

  • @Warhorse469
    @Warhorse469 Před 2 měsíci

    I think we can all agree Tomb Stones's worst enemy is its own weapon

  • @AnchorsAweighNarooma
    @AnchorsAweighNarooma Před 11 měsíci

    Great to see good sportsman ship and a good fight thanks BB

  • @Shovel________________
    @Shovel________________ Před rokem +5

    this fight just goes to show how much punishment beta can take

  • @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81
    @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 Před 2 lety +18

    Beta could've won if they just used it's hammer
    That would've been a huge underdog upset if that were the case and if they did win against Tombstone, they would be facing Yeti which would be even mote chaotic imo
    Who else?

    • @Giovansbilly
      @Giovansbilly Před 2 lety

      And then maybe we could get Yeti vs Bombshell for the final

  • @calebrobotart
    @calebrobotart Před 2 lety +18

    Such an awesome and iconic fight, but the fact that this wasn't a split decision shows how broken the judging criteria was back then (and kinda still is). Damage as a category is well past it's time. If you want an example of a balanced judging system, that doesn't put all the weight on spinners watch BashBots season 4.

    • @thomasfplm
      @thomasfplm Před rokem +1

      I think that the real problem is that we don't know how each of them distributed the points.
      If it was an 11 points system, maybe it as: 6v5, 6v5, 6v5 for Tombstone.
      It would be unanimous, but still a very close win.

    • @Fiddlesticks258
      @Fiddlesticks258 Před rokem +2

      Robot wars judging is better

    • @TheInvertedFollicle507
      @TheInvertedFollicle507 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@Fiddlesticks258yeah in the reboot which I presume you're referring to they emphasised aggression not damage as the most important criteria. I feel battlebots may in fact benefit from adopting the same approach.

  • @shaynesaulnier
    @shaynesaulnier Před 2 lety +1

    I forgot how good of a match this was

  • @cdname47
    @cdname47 Před 2 lety +7

    Where did the preview clips go? I really miss them
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    Said no one ever

  • @adityarajdev1
    @adityarajdev1 Před 2 lety +3

    the fact Tombstone wins fights 99% of the times is simply because of their no-nonsense approach to design and really really clever-simple engineering. Works upside down too. Things don't have to be overdesigned. Bronco is another good example of a simple yet powerful design.

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 Před 2 lety

      The spirit of battlebots is innovation. Perfecting a single thing is for athetic sports. Complexity should be rewarded here.

    • @robinsimon4176
      @robinsimon4176 Před rokem

      @@lordilluminati5836 the spirit of battlebots is demolition tbh, not innovation. a Walking bot never made the cut to finals, a multibot never made the cut to finals. Spinners are the mayor dmg dealer, flippers look cool but make the fight iffy cuz the opponent adds some counters and might get stuck on the floor (happend often enough and always ends in some people complaining) and then there are hammers, who i believe are the weakest kind of dmg dealers. The only innovation i see is the advancement of driving skills, which i do love to see cuz great drivers in a strong flipper bot are deadly

  • @maggusmaggistar7534
    @maggusmaggistar7534 Před 2 lety

    That was vety nice, thrilling till the end

  • @infinitycane
    @infinitycane Před rokem +2

    Beta doesn’t like using his hammer. Takes average of 2 shots on every fight

    • @KillFrenzy96
      @KillFrenzy96 Před rokem +2

      Every time I watch Beta, they refuse to use their hammer. A lot of the time they don't use it for half the match, only to get it destroyed without even using it once. When they do use it, it's quite underwhelming and lacks power.

    • @taehoonkim7819
      @taehoonkim7819 Před 11 měsíci

      I think Beta should repair its hammer since the rule is favored for hitting with the primary weapon. And I also want to see more hits with hammer, not just a moving.

    • @kaseycrooks5080
      @kaseycrooks5080 Před 3 měsíci

      Yup very boring to watch! But very entertaining to watch him get mangled lol

    • @kaseycrooks5080
      @kaseycrooks5080 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@taehoonkim7819 he should turn it into a hammer- saw instead way more kinetic energy

  • @valentinevynx
    @valentinevynx Před 2 lety +1

    One of my favorite battle of all time. Although I like tombstone, I feel beta is the winner here.

  • @lafeelabriel
    @lafeelabriel Před 2 lety +1

    Is that a another familiar face from Robot Wars I see there in Beta's corner?

  • @ziskador
    @ziskador Před rokem +1

    we should start signing a petition for beta to come back to battle bots 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrFunreal
    @MrFunreal Před 9 měsíci

    Not the first time beta has been "Waiting for a good hit" and just never using the hammer

  • @irfanalakbar
    @irfanalakbar Před 2 lety

    Battle of 2 seniors.. 👍🏻

  • @dav1dgear
    @dav1dgear Před 2 lety +2

    This is from an old season right? I don't see the upper deck here

  • @pete4206
    @pete4206 Před 2 lety +1

    if i trained for years to go into space and ended up been a judge on here you would find me like kurt cobain

  • @panadepanas3180
    @panadepanas3180 Před 2 lety +2

    Estas batallas son lo mejor, lo triste de vivir en latinoamerica

  • @pancakeformonday5656
    @pancakeformonday5656 Před 2 lety

    I think one way to destroy Tombstone is to ram it those walls while spinning so hard! Tombstone's a beast!

    • @kaseycrooks5080
      @kaseycrooks5080 Před 3 měsíci

      Yup only way I think or take wheels off, which is almost impossible 😅

  • @user-tl6iz2jx8l
    @user-tl6iz2jx8l Před 2 lety +4

    Tombstoneeeeeeee

  • @ricecookeradamant209
    @ricecookeradamant209 Před 2 lety

    Great match

  • @BanditSurvivorContent
    @BanditSurvivorContent Před 2 lety +3

    If Beta beat Tombstone could it have won the season?

    • @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988
      @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988 Před 2 lety

      Beta could probably win it all. I don't think Yeti have what it takes to beat Beta. And assuming Bombshell beat Minotaur like it was, the Beta probably beat Bombshell in the final, mainly because Bombshell can't use their vertical spinner because it's damaged. But if Minotaur beat Bombshell I can see Minotaur winning

    • @desireevictorino7917
      @desireevictorino7917 Před 2 lety

      @Bandit-Survivor Content can i have season 2 won giant is Tombstone
      Some think loss chomp it cloud drive bite force boy oh much in year 4

    • @randombadchannel8700
      @randombadchannel8700 Před 2 lety

      @@cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988 tough he May go with his horizontal confuguration. That May have a chance

  • @niIIer1
    @niIIer1 Před 8 měsíci

    It shouldn't be about who does the most damage, but who sustained the most damage. Having these intense kinetic weapons basically destroy themselves to then just called the winner due to them if course blowing up both sides is boring. Control and skill should be more rewarding. Given in this fight tombstone did hold up well and I do agree with the overall decision, but just not the point system.
    Spinners are fun to watch sure, but if the rules stay like they do, doing anything else is pointless as you cannot counter them. I personally prefer technical fights.

  • @gigacu2023
    @gigacu2023 Před 2 lety

    Tombstone para toda la vida ... (Y)

  • @Xarx42
    @Xarx42 Před rokem +3

    I think that's the big problem with tombstone: while the weapon is very powerful,the mobility is apparently very limited. The bot gets so often outmaneuvered and is barely able to take the initiative.

    • @kaseycrooks5080
      @kaseycrooks5080 Před 3 měsíci

      Ya but as soon as someone goes to hit Tombstone all he has to do is turn a little bit

  • @crist-roayt
    @crist-roayt Před rokem

    Beta tanqueo como campeón a Tombstome y aprovecho su entorno para no dejarse la fácil , si tan solo el mecánico de su martillo no estuviera tan expuesto hubiera podido ganar
    Aún así creo que merecía al menos u punto por control

  • @beauottenbreit7992
    @beauottenbreit7992 Před 2 lety +3

    Big tombstone fan. The problem with the way these competitions are ruled, every match with tombstone is basically tombstone vs a bot that attached a giant piece of armour to it. Yet when Hydra humiliated HUGE with a cow catcher they figured that was bad sportsmanship. Its the exact same thing. They attached a device to block the weapon because they can't defend against the weapon otherwise.
    Either way though, the biggest problem with battlebots right now is a lack of diversity, and with every other bot having a vertical spinner, a lot is lost in the same way that other bot shows might of had most bots being a flipper and favouring that type under the rules. They need to ammend the rules so that vertical spinners aren't so favoured by them.

    • @alexyoung7564
      @alexyoung7564 Před 2 lety +1

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @madpsycho6
      @madpsycho6 Před 2 lety

      Big wedges are counters to all horizontal spinners, not just Tombstone, so it's actually very fair whilst the cow catcher was bad sportsmanship.

    • @alexyoung7564
      @alexyoung7564 Před 2 lety

      @@madpsycho6 i liked it as a moment though because it was a good talking point

    • @beauottenbreit7992
      @beauottenbreit7992 Před 2 lety

      @@madpsycho6 So you just said nothing there. I made a real comparison and you essentially ignored it. If its fine to attach a heavy wedge to block tombstone's bar then in what way is it bad sportsmanship to attach a device to make it so the long bar of HUGE can't reach you? Is it because the device turned HUGE into a useless joke with no pushing power or maneuverability? Tombstone is literally a heavy bar on two wheels so creating a device to stop that contact is the exact same thing. If you want to call it bad sportsmanship then be consistent.

    • @madpsycho6
      @madpsycho6 Před 2 lety

      @@beauottenbreit7992 the heavy wedge that counters tombstone will counter Rotator, Hijinx, Ribbot, Captain Shrederator and Gigabyte as well so it's not bad sportsmanship, the cow catcher was used in one of the most boring matches in robot combat history (Mr speed squared Vs Foxic had more action in it) and HUGE's following fight against Kraken showed how a anti HUGE configuration can be interesting to watch in action.

  • @user-ur4bu4lt9e
    @user-ur4bu4lt9e Před 2 lety

    Не понятно кто победил, но всё рады, Американцы что тут говорить😀

  • @HINOSCLUBESMAISBRASIL
    @HINOSCLUBESMAISBRASIL Před 2 lety +4

    🇧🇷 Sempre bom ver uma batalha logo de manhã. Viva 👉👉🇷🇺

  • @ManojPawar
    @ManojPawar Před 2 lety

    Tombstone didn't deserve this win. They should have been humble enough to accept defeat.

    • @robinsimon4176
      @robinsimon4176 Před rokem

      tombstone did mayor dmg, why dont they deserve the win? Yes Beta had the better driving/control, while i wanna say pinning a bot at one place isnt really advancing the battle. But the dmg Beta caused to Tombstone was minimal at best. Since it didnt cause Tombstone to be immobilized nor stoped the spinner from working. So yeah, Tombstone destroyed more of beta than beta did to Tomstone. And since this is a battle, not a "who is the best pilot" Tombstone wins

  • @levertigo2665
    @levertigo2665 Před 2 lety

    tombstone got hit 2x times

  • @Britinsweden
    @Britinsweden Před 2 lety +1

    Upload new fights please…

  • @Falandoemhistoria
    @Falandoemhistoria Před 8 měsíci

    O beta lutou muito bem mais perdeu

  • @bodinmagosson
    @bodinmagosson Před 2 lety +2

    Bilbao beat Barcelona.

  • @AMIR_HACKER
    @AMIR_HACKER Před 2 lety +1

    Ror

  • @MarcavsMarca
    @MarcavsMarca Před 2 lety

    Interesante

  • @LeoLimaOliveira
    @LeoLimaOliveira Před 2 lety +1

    I do not agree with judges... 😑😑

  • @kekoojeda1685
    @kekoojeda1685 Před 2 lety +1

    Malos Ejemplares,,!!!! pero Excelentes PilOtos Contrincantes,,!!!

  • @dxarief
    @dxarief Před rokem

    That hammer is useless allways

  • @JorgeSilva-wv8yo
    @JorgeSilva-wv8yo Před 2 lety +1

    Beta was better the whole fight, what a fraud!!! 😡

    • @someguy4915
      @someguy4915 Před 2 lety

      Watch the video again? Beta did no damage to Tombstone, at least not with its primary weapon (the big hammer) which was useless in this match. Beta had the aggression and control but to no effect, other than getting its hammer chopped off...

    • @phoenixfire6559
      @phoenixfire6559 Před 2 lety

      @@someguy4915 Aggression refers to attacks mainly by the primary weapon. Because the hammer died after 30s, Tombstone would win that category.

  • @chayanbasu5790
    @chayanbasu5790 Před 2 lety +2

    I just totally hate Tombstone

    • @incidius_X
      @incidius_X Před 2 lety +1

      Why? I mean im no super-fan, but I don't see a reason to HATE them.

    • @chayanbasu5790
      @chayanbasu5790 Před 2 lety

      @@incidius_X the driver

    • @Baroxshitposter665
      @Baroxshitposter665 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@chayanbasu5790
      Why? Ray Billings Is a nice guy

    • @chayanbasu5790
      @chayanbasu5790 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Baroxshitposter665 fr?

    • @kaseycrooks5080
      @kaseycrooks5080 Před 3 měsíci

      It's just his battle attitude it's a competition lol

  • @markdowse3572
    @markdowse3572 Před 2 lety

    I'm sure that'll buff right out!
    Not. 😢
    M 🦘🏏😎