MURDER or SUICIDE? | is the case of Mark Haines about to be SOLVED after 36 years?!
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Georgia’s respect is next level. The detailed disclaimer of needing to say the victims name to advocate for him and how aboriginal communities may feel about that is so deeply touching and important.
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Agreed whole heartedly! I love how georgia is always culturally sensitive when covering cases and willing to learn cultures beliefs and respects and adheres to those cultural beliefs and practices when covering cases ❤❤
She is the GOAT.
Once again, proving why shes the best!❤
Georgia is so poised and respectful to everyone! (Autocorrect tried to change "poised" to "pissed".... not today, Satan!)
As an Australian, thankyou for covering this case with such sensitivity. Racism here is so prevalent but I feel like it doesn’t get talked about because we have a reputation for being laidback + friendly around the world. I’m appalled by the lack of investigation but unfortunately I’m not surprised
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As a fellow Australian I second this 100%
Yes. My white Irish husband lived there for a year in 2006 and left because people were so racist and xenophobic. They were still very xenophobic towards Irish people too as if it were the 1920s still or something.
Obviously signs like "no blacks, dogs, or Irish allowed" were still a thing in Oz then.
I came here to say the same thing. I actually grew up near Tamworth and visited often. Racism is very prevalent there! And there does still feel like there is a divide in the town. Thank you for being respectful (which you always are and why you still remain one of my favourite crime content creators) and for covering this case.
That is why people of diverse backgrounds need to be involved in every single industry and agency
Agreed!
It’s always frustrating when a possible murder is written off as a suicide. So very sad.
I'm an Australian and I had never heard of this one until today. Sadly its a reality that Indigenous People's cases go completely unnoticed in the media and they don't get properly investigated either. So thank you for highlighting this in your video.
This is very true
That’s so true. I’m American and it’s the same here; Native Americans that go missing or are murdered hardly get any news coverage or care from police.
@@maryanne32 it's just so unfair
I really appreciate not using "unalived" to describe someone taking their own life. As a survivor, its a small thing but really means lot.
I think for some creators (not Georgia but others) it’s a way to fight against the algorithms. If the AI algorithms detect the words “dead” “suicide” “killed” or others, sometimes it will automatically flag it as “not safe”, the video can be blocked or age restricted, and even be totally demonetized. Even if the person is doing advocacy work, the algorithm doesn’t care. Same reason some creators spell out “seggs” instead of sex because the work could get flagged and age restricted.
Creators that use alternative words are trying to get past the filter, so they don’t get taken down and/or demonetized.
My good friend's father was a train engineer. He said hitting bodies on the tracks from being unable to stop happens more often than people realize.
I mean that’s obvious they cant stop
Georgia you have been my favourite CZcamsr for years, it’s lovely to hear you always being so professional and respectful to these poor, very real people. You should get so much more attention! Such a sad case 💔
Thank you so much ❤️❤️
Absolutely ridiculous!! Everyone of the so-called "investigators" should be ashamed of themselves for their lack of investigation period! Mark deserved/deserves justice regardless of color or nationality just as everyone does. My thoughts are with Mark's remaining family and loved ones.
he looked so happy in the pictures, this breaks my heart
Hey Georgia, thanks for covering this. I am a journalist in Tamworth and this case has been hard to report on.
I truly believe someone/people in this community know what happened.
Its taken me a while to feel comfortable watching the episode but I am finally ready and I know you will do Mark justice.
Thank you.
Honestly everytime I see/hear about police writing something off as a suicide without even investigating my mind goes to it either being pure laziness or someone in law enforcement is involved and they're trying to cover their butts. Both are incredibly frustrating.
I hope Mark and his family get justice soon
They don't even want to investigate theft with all the information available (like with video and personal info)
Thank you for covering this case! I love how you're always trying your best to try and be culturally sensitive and learn about different cultures ❤ also love how you cover ALL cases regardless of age, race or gender! I follow a few true crime youtubers and yes some do similsr but they rarely cover cases from other counties let alone cases that are of missing Indigenous people etc! Ps have you heard of the bowraville murders/disappearances? Also THANK YOU for that train info! So many people dont realise how hard it is to stop a train and avoid potential tragedy
Also thank you for mentioning about how dodgy our system is to this day! So many people have their heads buried in the sand about this even in 2024
Your channel truly is the home of ethics-first true crime 🙏
You were right Georgia, this was a heavy one, so upsetting and sad 😣 Glad you have covered Mark’s case, giving him a voice 💔
hey georgia, you should consider covering the case of devon marsman from halifax, Nova Scotia. his family needs answers!
I’ll have a look into it!
As a crime scene investigator, an hour at the train crime scene is WILD.... I know this was a really long time ago but I've investigated a suicide by train (which we knew was a suicide, there was video footage) and I was at that scene for almost 4 hours.
Australian here. Sadly, but not unusually, I haven't even heard of this poor boy.
As a non- indigenous Australian, I had not heard for this case until now. I want to thank you for covering this case, with such respect and sensitivity, and I hope that his case can finally get the answers that it deserves.
I had a subdural hematoma before. When my skull was fractured w/ traumatic brain injury. Thank you for showing so much respect when discussing these things
This case is one that’s really stuck with me over the years. So incredibly incredibly sad. There’s absolutely no way it was a suicide
I agree, zero chance of suicide!
Thanks for covering this case! This case happened 1 hour from my home town, its always stuck with me.
Good thing we have you to spread awareness for unsolved cases
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Someone is at the end of their tether? Screaming for help? Go back to sleep 🙄
Exactly what I was thinking...eh why did she go back to sleep 😴 she should have called the cops I wouldn't be able to not look out my window and see what's happening.
Georgia, as an Aussie I really appreciate the effort you put into respecting Indigenous Australian culture!
She should have so many more followers. Love you Georgia!
Thank you! Make sure you share my channel around if you like what I’m doing ❤️❤️
I really hope that the family gets closure for their son. I can't imagine how painful it is knowing that something horrible happened to your son and being unable to get him justice.
There could have been a towel in the car though, or am I the only weirdo who drives around with a quilt, first aid kit, and towel in case I ever need to render aid? It also can be draped over the steering wheel in the summer heat.
the steering wheel is a great point actually, that makes total sense!
Thank you for covering a case that was never considered a worthy case. Y
Thank you so much for your focus on POC unsolved murders. You're truly making a difference. As soon as I can afford to, I'll be joining as a member, etc.
p.s.: I love the hair comment. I think you have hair like mine was most of my life - tons of hair, but that hair is fine. Since I started going gray, it's gotten thicker and has so much volume. It's one of those beautiful things about aging that I think you'll end up experiencing, as well. 💛
Hey Georgia thank you so much for doing an Aboriginal Australian case and showing such great respect for it. The aboriginal culture is so often disrespected so i am really greatful to see the care and attention you put into this video.
It only hit me half way through that he was just a boy. I can’t imagine being a parent and my child being essentially ignored. I hope they get answers
A very sad case. Yet again and again whether it's the UK, US or Australia police incompetence or just plain laziness it seems is everywhere.
This exactly
Hello Gerogia, could you take a look at the Saskatoon freezing deaths? It's a case very similiar to this.
I’ve had this on my list for a while, maybe I’ll bump it up!
@@georgiamarie_ lovely, I've written comments about that before. I've been subscribed for a long while now
I second this!
it drives me insane when people hear screams and sounds of distress and ignore it. like that lady said it sounded like somebody was hurt. you wouldn’t peak out the window? call 911? stay up a little and listen? you just go back to sleep? i don’t mean to sound mean, but to just go back to sleep is insane to me
Thank you for covering this case! Only commenting so algorithm gets better but I love watching all your videos
Wow, just wow. The police should be charged for all their wrong doing, how do you not collect all evidence at the scene??
❤ thank you for covering this case.
Always glad to see a new video 🖤
Omg I was born in April ‘88 and I CANNOT fathom being apart of a family trying to find basic answers to a death of a loved one since the year I was born… and those who never have answers…. Just awful what the justice system lacks when it comes to indigenous people.
Thank you for covering this case
Whatever happened, it’s so frustrating that the police didn’t investigate properly. If they’d looked into all these leads at the time they could have got to the bottom of it. I really hope the family gets their answers soon ❤
You are such a lovely young lady with such respect and compassion for each case. Love your channel ❤❤❤❤
What an amazing story. What a confluence of human incompetence and human corruption.
I hate hearing cases of natives being overlooked because of their heritage, it makes me so angry.
Thank you for your work❤
Wow Georgia another good one, very interesting about that guy Terry.
Wow I was shocked how this was written off as a suicide in the first place!
What's really crazy, is by the sounds of how corrupt the police was the people involved in his death would likely have gotten away with a slap on the wrist if they had just come forward.
I saw this case ( blood in the tracks) on an australian news channel, and it makes my blood boil. Marks damily and community were so let down.
Australia continues to be an inherently racist country. Thank you for raising awareness; we as a country have a long way to go, but every respectful discussion is a step in the right direction. Always was, always will be Aboriginal land.
I just want to let you know that the name thing also extends to images of the deceased for some of us mob. It might be worth changing the thumbnail if possible. Appreciate your sensitivity and self education on this topic nonetheless, and i absolutely understand being in the UK you don't know all that. Long time viewer, first time commenter lol. 🖤💛❤️
Just want to bump this bc it's really important. I see a lot of whyt voices in these comments speaking on behalf of mob. Well intentioned, but not the people who should be deciding what is and isn't respectful.
thank you for sharing Mark's story with us. lets hope real justice comes soon
Thank you for listening 😮
Sad that Mark will never get true justice 😢 but hopefully his family gets answers
Wow, just wow! The police in this case..
Im only 17 minutes in and im already pissed aghhhhh
It only gets worse!
I’ve seen this case and the documentary.devastating and baffling case.hopefully it gets solved soon
And this story is a prime example of why the police are mistrusted all over the world. I'm not saying all police are bad, but the bad ones really stand out. Another excellent video.
I hope the algorithm boosts this video more!
💔...hoping for real change and justice for these families
How can the police have not even looked into the evidence
I am from Tamworth and distantly related to Mark. Thankyou for covering this case. There definitely is/was a lot of racism in Tamworth. Everyone knows there was a cover up because he is indigenous
There is a similar case in the United States called the boys on the tracks.
This case haunts me to the core! I watched an intense coverage a while ago by Wendigoon going about all the reason they covered it up, all the shady police work involving drg trafficking they were aware and involved in, silencing witnesses (literally silencing them) and all of it. It truly disturbed me since
I hope his family and friends find out the truth about what happened to him, even if it turns out they can't find enough evidence to convict anyone, i hope there will be some kind of closure :(
If Terry was involved, it’s a shame he couldn’t leave in his note a confession, although maybe he was protecting everyone else also there. I doubt the reward will ever be claimed, if all the people involved were his ‘friends’ and they all now need to protect each other. Absolutely shocking from the police, disgusting and such a shame with time people did come forward but their info was lost or never properly heard. Great video and usual and hope Marks family get some answers soon, even if it’s not justice.
Well, that was... upsetting. I mean, all of them are upsetting, but the complete lack of fucks given by the police is just... I'm shaking with rage trying to process how negligent they were. I hope the inquest figures out what really happened.
I live in Tamworth and this is a very sad case I know marks uncle Duck and he will go to the ends of the earth to find out who did this to his nephew
rip beautiful boy
NO BLOOD after being run over by a train, yeah that doesn't right. Especially since he had a headwound, headwounds tend to bleed like crazy
This definitely left me with a heavy heart. 💔
Can’t watch till tomorrow but leaving a little comment for you
Thanks for your support!
When i was a child in the early 80s Sacramento Ca in the local art house Theater that played foriegn films I saw the Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith of half white aboriginal caught between two cultures exploited with tragic results lt really was haunting and at that time Sacramento CA even though the capital of California was still not fully cultivated with diversity culture sophisticated this was before cable television and internet in an Dateline an American Magazine investigation television program in 1998 "The Long Way Home " with Australia's Stolen Generation of Aboriginal people the journalist Stone Phillips conclude that in America the Indian welfare child Act that many children were in adopted and forced into boarding schools without consent it ended in 1970
Georgia, I think youtube is shadow banning your content 😞 I no longer am receiving notifications (the bell is set) and I’m deeply disappointed in this platform for doing this to amazing creators who show so much respect for the victims and continue to push forward murder corn
It does not make sense for me for your videos to have the amount of views they have considering your number of subscribers! And all the positive feedback you receive from those watching! Yt is shady!
I’ve been having the same suspicions lately, very frustrating when there’s nothing you can do about it as the creator! Thank you for your comment and for searching me out to watch ❤️❤️
Was this case on Unsolved Mysteries or am i getting mixed up with another case?
I didn’t come across that in my research but maybe?
I’ve seen most if not all episodes but never seen him featured on there. I heard about his case from the Blood on the Tracks documentary
@@georgiamarie_ I remember a case where a young boy was found on the train tracks but it was believed he had died before being hit by the train. If not the same case definitely very similar! I'm sure I remember something about drugs in the area too and there was some speculation he may have witnessed a drug deal or something along those lines!
You're probably thinking about the case of Don Henry and Kevin Ives, two teenage boys killed in Arkansas 1987.
I think they crashed, the friend/friends panicked and framed a suicide.....
This is so sad. I 100% think Mark was murdered. I hope his family gets justice
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commenting for the algorithm x
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Question his girlfriend.
Ok your accent is too heavy for me. I don’t want to struggle to have to understand you. Unfortunately I will have to continue to scroll.
English is not even my native language and I understand her perfectly. I think the problem here is you.
As a native English speaker, this comment is just bizarre. Georgia speaks very clearly and 'properly'. She has no regional accent - some of which can be hard to understand. If you can't understand Georgia, then you'd be completely bamboozled by 99% of native English speakers!
I found your channel from a true crime group on facebook where I posted asking for mysterious “unalived” people and someone commented Mark Haines and when I went to CZcams, your video was the first to pop up and I immediately hit subscribe and I can’t wait to binge all your videos!!! 🫶🏼
I just read a few comments and saw people not liking the term “unalived” - I don’t use that to be cruel or thoughtless, I just didn’t want to cause anything to be flagged. I, too, struggle with mental health and I don’t mean to sound insincere 🥹
Just commenting for the algorithm 🖤🤎