[Review] - GT Omega ART Cockpit || Honest Review
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Soooooo an honest review has appeared! But what is an Honest Review? It's where I take out all Bias as much as I humanly can and look at a product/item/service from a neutral perspective. If you see no review of a product then be worried about it!
Today we're looking at the GT Omega ART Cockpit! I was sent this for free awhile ago but as stated in the video and as seen by the email I asked them if I could do an Honest review.
I've also taken out the affiliate link for this video just due to the fact it's a review.
We're going to score rigs in 5 main areas;
Rig Accessories / Usability
Build
Comfort
Stability
Price (I realise this is subjective please see video).
... Enjoy!
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IMO, reviewers put too much value on cockpit build difficulty. Unless you need to cut things to size, drill missing holes, or if it arrives with missing parts, it shouldn't be a big deal in the end. Poor comfort, usability, or stability; or it having too high of a price can be deal breakers. So, ignoring the build difficulty, a score of 34/40 is pretty darn good. Thanks for the review.
It depends really, some people it can cause a lot of frustration and we live in a society where build quality does have an impact. But just for the rig itself I do love my rig, definitely a good upgrade over my previous one :)!
A bit of lithium grease does the trick for the creaking
Bought mine in 2016 and it's still in perfect shape.
Optional tabletop to hold the keyboard, mouse and assorted stuff.
I couldn't imagine sim racing without one now.
A good and honest review.
I agree with you, no building manual is downfall.
A advice for you and other rig users, after a month or 2..... check al the bolts and nuts. Sometimes they come a little bit lose and fixing it will make your rig last longer.
I got mine last August and couldn't be happier with it, Play Seat with the pole in the middle I couldn't hack it. I have the RS9 Seat and blown away with the quality.
All round I agree with the 9/10. Great Video, Keep it up!
@@Rapid_GT Yes, if yours hasn't I do belive you can download a manual to your phone via the GT Omega site. If not just email support 👍
I just assembled the GT Omega Art rig, it took 1 hour tops. The instructions weren't Great but it was still easy to put it together. Don't get what people are complaining about.
It depends, remember just because it's the same rig doesn't necessarily mean all the parts fit the same as there are differences that occur during manufacturing :O!
Some people are VERY mechanically challenged.
Hey, what wheel are you using and do u notice any flex movement of wheel, pedals or seat when racing?
Hey Dakqvist what wheel do you use? And how stable is the wheel during racing?
I was on the fence about buying this rig. Thanks for reviewing this
Did you end up buying the Art version? If so, what wheel do you use and did you notice any flex movement of seat or wheel?
Great review ! I've used this rig for a couple of years now and still happily use it. I have the RS6 seat and the monitor stand attached. I agree with the build part,it was a pain to get it set up. But it has served me well ever since. Very comfortable and sturdy. At this price point i can easily recommend this rig.
Btw the middle bar does fit in mine
Ye the middle bar was weird, but even now I'm still enjoying the rig, it's brilliant :D!
@@tidgney Wouldnt the middle bar be for if you didnt have the seat mount because the front half of the rig is sold seperately as a wheel stand?
@ SimRacng Channel I’m looking to buy this art rig. How stable is the wheel, when racing? Is there a lot of flex?? I own Logitech g29 wheel and apparently, the stronger force on the wheel, the more flex you get but I’ve not even used my wheel yet. The art is more customisable but the pro is more sturdy. I’m so torn. Buy art version and poss have too much flex on wheel n pedals or buy pro, have less or no flex buy less customisable. 😐
@@grahamkelly8662 i can't comment on the pro but with the ART the wheel base plate is really sturdy. You will not need to worry about flex on the wheel base. I have used a G27 and T300 wheel on this rig and both had no problems on that side as far as i could tell. I will say however that since i have upgraded from the G27 pedal set to the CSL elite pedal set with a 90kg load cell brake pedal i have noticed some flex in the pedal plate when i brake very hard (90kg of force). When you brake this hard the middle of the rig also lifts up a little as you push on the pedal while pushing yourself back in the seat while doing so. Also there is no mounting option for the lower side of the pedal plate, it mounts at the top side and i secured the bottom with tie wraps. So yeah, all in all the ART is still a very nice rig for this price point imo. If you are gonna use a G29 with its included pedal set i think you won't have problems with flexing, only if you upgrade to a heavy duty load cell brake pedal set you might experience some flexing of the pedal plate and some movement in the rig.
@@simracingchannel7691 thank you for your In depth reply but something else has come into the equation. Omega Titan Cockpit. It’s £100 more then the Art at £430. Apparently it’s super sturdy. Do you have any experience with Titan? I’m only about 5ft 2 and I’m worried I’ll make wrong choice. The Art has a seat that can be raised, multiple angles for foot pedals and wheel can be adjusted. Do you know if Titan has these features? I have a vision of either, wheel is too high or because I’m not very tall, I move seat forward and then my chest is almost touching the wheel. I may be worrying over nothing but I just don’t want to waste my money. Art has adjustability but possibly flex, pro has less adjustability but is more sturdy and Titan meant to be better then other 2 versions. Now it’s deff the Art or Titan, I just don’t know what will suit my short ass, best. Any advice would be great.
I’m thinking of getting this with no seat £250 then a sparco bucket seat £179.. £429 (with intergrated monitor stand). What’s thinking of a play seat evo pro for 324 + a stand-alone monitor stand for total of 400ish plus a pole down the middle and way less stable… I think we have a winner
Today i got an exact replica by mail. The seat is a bit hard but overall, im very happy. For today it held up real good with my fanatec csl dd 8nm set on 5 nm. Almost no movement in the wheel mounting deck, without support bars.
The thing about comfort and having to use a pillow is more down to seat construction than the ability to recline. I think most rigs have a tubular frame seat, so you end up with areas with no hard support for padding and the lower back is usually where you feel it the most. I have that problem with my Obutto rig, and the seat is reclinable. Then you have fiber shell seats, which are usually way better as you have padding with support all around. I spent 2 full days in an Elise, 1800 km of trip, the Probax seats are quite thin and fixed back, yet they were really nice and I felt no pain in the back.
I originally planned to use a RX-8 seat on my rig but the rails are too wide to fit the base. If someone plans to build a homemade rig though, I can only recommend sourcing a RX-8 seat, they look good, can be found for a reasonable price and you could sleep in it.
No idea, all I know is that this is the first seat I've ever used not needing a pillow, it's really nice xD!
If it's tubular you should be able to feel the tube pressing the back from behind. Also on mine you can feel they put some rollcage padding on top of the headrest, like this : www.msar.co.uk/user/products/lifeline-fia-rollcage-padding-451-100-001-msar.jpg
You may have dropped points for the missing bar in build and strength sections. Not sure if i heard right. Either way. U may be able to stop the creaking if u can find where its coming from, likely between 2 peices of metal making contact and apply vegetable oil lighlty to both surfaces with a napkin. I say vege oil cuz it wont stink up ur house like chain lube might. My lady and i did this to an outdoor swing that creakes when swinging and it has been silent ever since.
I will certainly have a look, I guess it's just wearing in but any new comer to the rig may worry at first :O!
Nice review had just looked at this rig and liked the look and price .
I now feel happy confident to buy one 😊.
Many thanks 👍
No worries, enjoy :)!
Just been offered to buy my mates almost new one with shifter and screen mount for 200quid, my playseat challenge has done me well for the past 5 years and I have no complaints as I bought it on offer for 100quid and now 5 years later they sell for 160quid but I can't wait to get it set up and not be pivoting my wheel to get in and out of my rig 💪
Enjoy it :D!
@@tidgney tnx mate, am loving having a solid rig and the screen mounted in the perfect position, I'm only 6.2" but lanky so find I'm a little closer to the pedals n wheel than I'd like even on the longest settings but the 25mm square tube I got coming 2moro to extend the joining section should fix that 😁✌️
So, how stable ia the platform the wheelbase is on? This is for me the biggest worry. I am now in possession of the GT omega classic wheel stand and it woblble from side to side like crazy.
Hey dude, hope your well mate. Loved your GT7 breakdown by the way.
I've currently got the PlaySeat and the pole in between my legs is doooooing my head in, lol.
So,
1) 10 months on from when you did this review, would you still buy it today?
2) Did ya sort that creak out, has it get any worse?
3) I watched a review from 2015 also. They were gerning about the pedal plate. It was tilting away from them when pressure was applied to their pedals. Has this been an issue for you?
4) And their pedal plate was made from MDF, has this been upgraded to metal now?
5) Lastly, do ya think its ridged enough to handle the Fanatec CSL Elite wheel base?
I think my only other option would be a Next Level rig, but they're a lot more money, which I don't think would score well in your pricing system. Don't really want to shell out that kinda coin.
Anyway dude, thanks in advance
Abysinya
You're awesome mate. Happy following you for a pretty long time :)
Great review. Love it. Keep up the good work pal.
Hey Tidge, sorry late to the party. Nice review. Im looking to replace my GamePod wheel and pedal stand. The centre post means my left leg has to curl round the post - far from ideal. Also jelly like wobbly - and thats with two brace struts added that I made. I presume you're still happy with the rig - as you appear to be using the same one over a year later. Only thing, is that that as of Oct 2020, GT Omega have no stock of the Art seat with the XL RS seat. I'm not keen on bolsters myself - and I'm 100% agreement that you don't need them on a non-dynamic race sim rig.
Ye I love my rig to be honest, it's absolutely spot on.
Great review!
I got mine probably a week after your build video (and partly because of your build video) - and I broadly agree with your scores. I thought it was easy to build, but agree the lack of instructions is poor. My cross bar also did not fit, which isn't great either. I opted to order mine without a seat, choosing a Sparco R100 adjustable seat sitting on Sparco sliding rails. I don't do long stints but the rig feels great and solid which helps immeasurably with immersion. One thing I really liked about the rig is that the supplied GT Omega seat base allowed me to get the base tilt/height spot on and the Sparco rails went on perfectly without any hassle - so with an adjustable set you can get the backrest and base set-up spot on - I assume this applies equally to the GT Omega seat (?).
I have zero creaking with mine so suspect it may be in the seat (maybe try a squirt of penetrating PTFE lube at the seat frame pivots?).
All in all, I am hugely impressed with the cockpit - especially for the price.
Interesting to hear you and others have had similar problems with that middle bar, it's a bit bizarre to be honest! Glad to hear you're enjoying the rig though, I certainly am great improvement over my previous one!
Hi David. What wheel are you using with this Art set up? And do you have any movement flex of wheel or seat when racing?
Hi Graham, When I wrote my first comment I had a T300RS. Now I'm using a Fanatec CSL Elite wheelbase. With the stronger wheelbase, there is a little flex. Nothing major but it does wobble the screen a little so I'll be moving my screen onto a separate stand soon. Overall, I'm still happy with the setup. No movement from the seat at all.
so the wheel will flex more or less, depending if the wheel has high or low force feedback? If so, do you know if Logitech g29 wheel has high or little force feedback? Also, do your foot peddles move while driving? And you say that the flex of the wheel, really isn’t much and not a big problem? Thanks for replying mate, I really appreciate it👍
I'm guessing the G29 should be similar to the CSL Elite in terms of torque. The frame flexes a little, but not that you'd notice unless you were really looking for it. Ditto the pedals, I use the load cell pedals so put a fair load in to get full brake force. It feels very solid, but I did pick up a small flex. Again, not something that you generally notice or that would bother you. In terms of feel, it feels solid. It is only the wobble that shakes the screen that bugs me, so I'd opt to not mount the screen to the rig.
Is there any way that this rig would be ok size wise for college? I know there is the f-gt lite and playseat challenge that can fold away handy, but I’d rather spend my money on something like this since it is much better for only €345 or about £300. I was thinking that with the monitor stand it could save space. Would I have any issues if I separated the front off and back and tucked it in a corner? I’d like to still keep racing in college as I’m at least somewhat a competitive racer and I love doing it in my free time. Great detailed video anyway man!
You wouldn't have any issues splitting it in half and moving it away but if space is an issue I think you'd get tired of doing that pretty quick and in that situation a foldable one is definitely better in my opinion :O!.
@@tidgney Yeah, I was thinking that. I heard that the seat is pretty good on its own for other purposes, when you put the wheels on it? Anyway, I’ll definitely be thinking more about it. Thanks for the reply!
11:00 Thank you, that’s exactly my point of view as well. There are no g-forces! Why these bloody side bolsters?
Hey nice Review. I watched an old Review from inside sim Racing and they said the pedalplate is kinda weak and also does not stay where it is until you put it under that Bar at the Front. Is the moving pedalplate still a Problem or did they change the padelplate since than?
I never had that problem myself, including with a load cell.
Nice review. I both play simracing and simflight.
Can i leave permanently the square HOTAS mount in the middle and steering wheel at same time?
Or do i have to remove the HOTAS mount everytime i play simracing?
Sorry for the late reply! But I wouldn't be able to answer that without having one :O!
Great review. Mind made up I think. Thanks matey.
I just got through putting mine together and also had to rely on a single diagram and also had to guess but what can you expect for something that's made in China after seeing the China logo on the bottom of the seat, I came real close to boxing it all back up and sending it back.
Where were you before you teleported to the chair?!
Secret Alien Planet of Racing Drivers :O
Tidgney ahh makes sense
thanks for the review, been looking at one of these as getting pedal plate flex on my current rig. Is the pedal plate on this rig rigid? i.e no flex when 100% on the brake pedal?
Damn, one year and zero replies
Thanks for the great review!
I still got a question since i am a really tall person and dont know your height:
Do you think it is adjustable enough to let a 2,00m person comfortable race in it?
Thanks in advance!
I can't say for certain, but you can really extend the legs out at the left and right bit.
Very Honet Review. Keep it up 👍👍
0:10 are you planning to appear on the seat like that in the world tour as well? cool transition :D
Yes, I'm from the future ;)!
Thanks for the review...if you were buying a new wheel to bolt to it would you go TGT or CSL elite?
If I played other games than GT Sport then CSL Elite otherwise TGT
Great review mate, and certainly gives us something to consider should we be in the position for having a rig setup. Very good, and looks the biz.
Can you put a buttkicker on this without the mount? Seems to be permanently sold out.
Its between this and the Next Level Racing F-GT, what do people think?
i'm in the same position as you are, debating between the F-GT and this one. What did you choose?
@@wouterkrans1722 hi mate, I went with the fgt in the end. The only thing I don't like about it is the seat back angle adjustor is very flimsy and I think it could break if you put too much weight on it. I also got a monitor arm of amazon and mounted it to one of the side rails so my screen is right behind the wheel. Works nicely
I just got a Prime with RS12 seat and the creaking from the backrest is driving me crazy. Even with my Reverb G2 volume fully cranked i can still hear it. I hope GT Omega have a solution.
Did you find a fix?
It stopped after awhile to be honest :D
@@tidgney I sold the seat and got a SAAS bucket seat instead.
We have a RS9 seat that creaked, we took off the side cover and sprayed a small amount of silicone around the spring and in between the hinge from the back part of the hinge and the noise is gone. Not sure how long it will last, but easy enough to lube as needed.
Hey there! Looking at this rig and I have a few questions, anyone can answer that would be great:
- Can you mount 2 of the GS Mounts together side by side? I have a TSS Handbrake and a TH8A Shifter and need them both on the left hand side.
- I'm looking to get the XL RS Seat, I'm 5ft 7" approx. Will the RS9 seat be more suitable for me or is the XL RS be good for my height?
- On my current Classic Wheel Stand I have my power supply for my wheel as well as a USB hub for all my connections mounted on the rig itself, behind where my T3PA Pro Pedals are. Is there space to do this on the ART rig or will I need a new solution?
Thanks for your time, fantastic video, very in depth and exactly what I needed, bar the questions I had of course! Have a lovely day! :)
I'm am not 100% sure on that, GT Omega should be able to help directly with that though :O!
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
Great video review! I just ordered one! Did you install your tv directly to the rig? If so, what size do you recommend.
Did you buy art version ? What wheel do you use? And do you notice any flex movement of wheel, peddles or seat, when racing?
Can't decide between this or the f-gt
Hi does this fit a standard racing office chair with wheels? I mean can u take out the wheel of an office chair and put it as a seat to this rig?
Not 100% sure if I'm honest. I'd just get their chair to make sure, it is a good chair.
How does this compare to the ebay knockoffs I see? They look identical without the GT Omega stickers.
No idea unfortunately, if I do get chance to compare them I will do :).
Did you figure out the squeaking noise from the back of the seat or is it still squeaking?
Not yet, although I've not looked to be fair.
How tall are you? I’m 5ft 6 and have read some customer reviews saying not good for short drivers.
I'm 5ft 9, I think you'd be fine at 5ft 6
Tidge ya pleb that creaking isn't the seat its your bones :)
haha, that could be the case xD!
squeakin - grease some things, which may make that squak ;)
I would love a review for the black curtains. I wanna buy them
They are rubbish xD!
gt omega do a keyboard and mouse holder that don't fix to the wheel plate it fixes to the cockpit frame and they do a triple monitor holder that goes with this cockpit the bar that you said don't fit does fit it goes with the front part of the cockpit and you said theirs no instructions so what was that paper on the floor that you kept looking at instructions ? it does come with instructions
There was no instructions, there's a couple of pictures but no instructions.
Hi, how sturdy is the art version? I really want it because it’s adjustable for me, being only 5ft 3. I own Logitech g29 wheel, not used yet. Some say this art version is not sturdy and has flex and others say it’s sturdy. Then others say it only has flex movement if you have a strong wheel, what do you say? And have you tried the g29 wheel with this set? I’d go for the pro that’s apparently more sturdy but it’s less adjustable and I’m worried I’ll be too small to reach peddles. I’d really appreciate a reply because I’m itching to set up my first wheel set. 👍
I love my rig, it really has been brilliant! Seems sturdy enough to me that is for sure. I'm sure you would be fine with it if I'm honest.
@@tidgney thanks for your reply. I ended up buying the Titan Cockpit with Rs6 seat. Well, I pre ordered it because was out of stock. Gt Omega stated estimate re stock date around 26th of this month. I honestly think the Art version would have been ok but I went with Titan, just to make sure. If I get on with Titan, I may order another cockpit and have 1 in Living Room and 1 in bedroom. I’m currently using my g29 wheel on a crappy small desk, in front of tv with a crappy hard kitchen chair lol. I love the wheel, it’s so much more fun then pad but my only gripe is that , even with force feedback turned down in all the settings, it’s still very strong. I’m not talking about regular vibration like a controller has, I’m talking about the wheel feeling rather stiff, I have to forcefully hold it otherwise the wheel jumps about erratically . I’m hoping this is normal and my wheel isn’t faulty. I was going to buy a gear stick shifter but I’m unsure now , as holding wheel with 1 hand and trying to steer is extremely difficult, especially in dirt rally with left right left turns at lightning speed. I even watched some pro rally drivers, cockpit view and there wheel don’t seem to have a mind of its own.
@@grahamkelly8662 Hi I’m in a similar position, looking at the Art and Titan cockpit. Has your Titan cockpit arrived yet? As I believe they’re in stock now on the website to order last time I checked. If so, how is it? Is it sturdy etc? My main concern with whatever I end up getting is flex in the pedal plate. That’s what I don’t want.
Thanks
@@tanzeela6733 hello, yes it arrived a few days ago. I’ve not set it up yet as I’ve been busy. I’m going to set it up tomorrow and I’ll let you know how it performs. I got it on sale and saved about £40. I think it’s on sale for about 1 more week.
@@grahamkelly8662 yeah please let me know, especially on the pedal plate flex. With your g29 pedals there is not going to be much force going through it therefore there probably won’t be any flex. But if it’s not too much to ask, I would really appreciate if you could really test the pedal plate sturdiness maybe with your weight on top or really pushing down to see if it flexes. Same goes for the wheel deck I guess, as I’m looking to get loadcell pedals and a stronger wheel base.
Thanks
No One review in Flight mode or for fps with keyboard tray?
Did OmegaGT contact you afterwards about the assembly instructions missing?
Nope, in fact my affiliation got removed lol. I still rate the rig though :)!
Tidgney Mine arrived last week with an instructions sheet although assembly was pretty simple.
Re-tightrn all nuts ,bolts and screws plus a dab of grease
Why is the omega gt pro+ rig out of stock everywhere?
Every real racing driver wants a rig :O!
Quick pee stop 🛑 then 5 to 10 seconds 🤣😂🤣
T-GT test review please
What 370 good price, shame you couldn’t get a discount link as well
Nice if the manufacturer comments back. Inform if you would.
My 370 was at a huge discount, I could trade it in the same day for 2k profit when I bought it haha xD!
Will look into a T-GT review soon :)!
Tidgney would love to see a long term tgt review from you
Well you need a new wheel lol go get the csw v2.5 I promise you wont regret it and yo get that feel of thrustmaster because alot of thrustmaster users dont like anything else after using it when if they wpuld give it a chance they would like others much much kroe especially with performance put the dampening at 35 and the friction at 8 percent bam perfect also put the drift mode at negative 1 and if you want w little kore negative 2 I think negative 1 is perfect with the other settings on or you can just keep the others off and put it at negative 4 on drift mode and bam I think he other settings are better tho but yeah great stuff time for you to get a new wheel for that rig lol I got me a csw v2.5 the formula v2 rim and the csl elite pedals with the loadcell hell yeah it's a fucking amazing setup I will probably never upgrade again well mabye later with a dd wheel but with how little drag and how smooth the v2.5 is if you close your eyes it has that dd feel now I'm not stating its identical or anything but its performance is fucking crazy ans it spins so freely all you feel is the force feedback so you get that super strong ffb and that's it and it feels so damn cool and good
I have used a fair few wheels to be fair but my focus is the live events of GT Sport which use a T-GT so unless Fanatec come in, I won't be changing :P! I have no doubt Fanatec wheels overall are better than Thrustmaster especially as you go up the range :D!
you need to clarify the content
Would you like to speak to the manager?
Nice review bud thanks
Mine is pronounced Oh-May-Ga in the US haha!
Why don't build your own rig from wood? Costs aapx 50€ for the wood. And then 150€ for a high quality seat.....
I considered this myself, but when I factored in the cost of my own time - it would work out way more expensive.
@@davyfong but you dont get paid normally in your own time + it's fun to do. Im gonna do it myself and if i fail i buy a cockpit haha
50 for wood and 50 for a good quality used car seat
@@Richard_Buurstra Erm. That's a huge assumption to make.
@@davyfong just bought a decent car chair, really comfortable for 60 euro. Monday gonna buy wood gonna be max 50 for sure maybe even cheaper :p
That's an awesome pimple on the end of your nose ridge stop touching it your spreading the acne hahahah just joking
You're not kidding, that thing grew like Everest that day!
Easy to get in and out of ... you know!!!
If you know what I’m referring to you’re the biggest pleb I know 😂
Seems like you're the only pleb here
J S he will get what I’m on about once he reads it
I had to google it :O! I'm sorry xD! That's one strange advert!
Can you change position of gear shifter from right side to left side?
I can't remember from memory unfortunately as it's been a few years since I've used mine!
Is this rig any good for use with a dd drive wheel?
Not to sure, I mean it feels strong! But I don't have a DD wheel to try it with.
@@tidgney Well you're no bloody help are ya! 😭
8 months late, but we have a Logitech G pro DD wheel attached, works good, some frame flex, but good for us as the steering platform is all the way down. GT Omega do sell some support bars to help, but I would still think the frame would have some flex. We normally run the wheel between 6.5-9nm but it goes up to 11nm.