My Thoughts on Side Pressure! | Arm Wrestling Training
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Hi guys, today's video is my take on side pressure, I hope that you learned something new and that this helped you to better understand my point of view when it comes to training side pressure.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - intro
0:10 - What is Side Pressure and My Experience With It
3:16 - How You Should Train Side Pressure
3:53 - What You Should Always Keep in Mind
5:32 - The First Exercise
7:37 - The Second Exercise
9:30 - The Third Exercise
11:40 - Outro - Sport
i think it's crazy for arm wrestlers to never train vectors going to the side especially if you're trying to win a tournament. It doesn't have to be max effort, but you need to train your internal rotation and condition your elbow if you want to be able to finish opponents quickly, especially if you're an inside puller.
I feel like my side pressure gets better as I hook defensively, without training it directly, because I eventually can start to attack people that before I was only able to hook in a defensive hook.
Totally. I just did a practice with a family member to test my strength and I did hold him easily in the center but as I never trained my side....it was much harder to go to the side and finish him off. Can't imagine against good armwrestlers and in a tournament format lol. I would have lost my energy in 1 or 2 match max waiting for the guy to give up or tire his side enough to pin him
Hey Rino, its nice to see a fellow european doing well in the sport. Thanks for the content, looking forward to seeing you more on the stage.
Thank you! :))
Isn't armwrestling dominated by Europeans anyway?
@@wojack8272 ethnically yeah. In terms of nationality there are many Americans
I agree, i never rly train my side pressure directly, just my rising cup, pronation, back pressure, supination, and i can see my side pressure get stronger with all of this
Your side would be stronger if you trained it directly
@@gigachad-rx3zv - That depends on the individual and their level of conditioning/experience. Side pressure is dangerous and should be done with eyes on them by an experienced puller if they are new. The other alternative is to simply not use heavy weights and stick to a 20-50 rep range while learning and conditioning.
@@kingwillie206 Agree.
I think a very intersting topic would be training intensity vs frequency. When do you increase the intensity in your training sessions and why? After you hit a PR and know your limits what do you do with that data like how does it help you?
All of your videos are fantastic and very helpful. Thank you!
Rino advice its always high quality material. Thank you
This is gold here. Thank you man. It's very helpful if you could teach us how to train side pressure for toproller and pronation.
Your channel is blowing up brother!!! I wish you success! 💪🏻
Thank you for the vids, I hope you will keep going with it.
Thank you Rino I learned a lot from you here the most important is when you said to keep your arm in the center of your body I haven't arm wrestled anyone yet since I was a kid I'm just trying to get strong for now can't find a club where I live but I'm absorbing everything I can thanks again brother I enjoyed watching you dominate at The World Championship. 💪🤜
Very informative vid, thanks for posting. I try to train side pressure with light cables to avoid injuries. Slowly building up in weight for several years, injury free
You are the future of the sport keep it up 💪💪💪
Really interesting, good job mate !
great content, detailed and thorough explanation. cheers from pennsylvania
Thank you 😁
Very well explained. Especially about doing exercises that pros do leading to injury. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about stretching and flexibility in arm wrestling.
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Your training explanation is clear an simple 👌
This channel is pure gold ,so many good informations😍🙏 Subscribed💪
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... good explanation video! Top quality!
Super si brate!!
Awesome!
Buena información rino, muy sabio 👍😎
Gracias por los ejercicios estoy empezando en la lucha de brazos y me sirven mucho
Nice tips Rino..
Nice bro ❤
Ryan Bowen got hurt during his lead up to a supermatch with Guntars Baikovs, he did it while sparring.
Good video as always, thanks for this! Started subscribing because your videos are so educational about arm wrestling.
Just a stretch here, will you do a video about programming in armwrestling for beginners and advanced? I saw many videos about how to train specific part of muscles/tendons in armwrestling, but no video of proper programming about it.
Thank you! I will try to do a video on that topic 😄
Ye same for me. I m still never sure what to do and when. Like pronation when I do biceps or better cupping instead. Or both etc
Hi Rino, actually an amazing video. Structured an easy to understand. Im not sure if there is anything like this on the internet regarding armwrestling. Only VoA comes close to this, but still a bit differenr
Thank you! 😊
Don't have pulley system but I can do the exercises with resistance bands 👍 , great vids.
Dobar video! I like your detailed explanation and breakdown on how it applies in arm wrestling. Would love a video on a detailed breakdown of your weekly training, reps, sets, recovery. How you got into the sport. Heavy vs light weight and why. Also at what point to train heavy (1 year, 2 years...) does it change as you get more longevity in the sport. For sure many videos from these topics. Hvala 💪
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Jako poucan snimak! Kod mene su problem bas te tetive lakta i jako su mi slabe :( svi mi govore da bas treba njih da radim i da ih osetim na treningu kako se ne bi povredio na sparingu/obaranju.
Hai im from india big fan bro
Very useful videos, everything you do looks very structured. I wonder if you have any tips to help recovery and accelerate healing after training or competition?
Tendon and nerve pain is real pain in ass :D
Timmy my friend
Time.
Try super high reps super low weight, it works for me, specially if it's wrist pain
I train my side pressure every single forearm day and it's gotten to the point I can do 80kg of side pressure easily
Hey bro love from india❤️....can u please say what you do when u get pain in your outer elbow after armwrestling....i mean like tennis elbow ....i have huge pain in both my elbow and it makes some shape kali tennis elbow
Hell ya
Really cool video!! The only thing i wanna ask you Is don't you think that sometimes Is good to lock your arm and train even that particular motion? Cause you Will end there in a match sooner or later...
Thank you 😊 I think it is good to practice that move but not with big weight. When you are trying to train that move for strength you are not pulling that weight just through your muscles but also through your tendons which can cause pain in them and it won't be as effective at strength any muscle in your hand as the effort will be distributed throughout all of the muscles and none of them will work hard enough to gain any strength. 😄
@@rinomasic7274 I have studies sport science. I have to say I am impressed by your thinking abilities and ideas!!
So what do you think on the other hand about tendon training???
Should you hardly use them at all?! J.Brzenk stated on his side (ask Brzenk, google it you will find) for example it is important to use the tendons every once a while too. He suggests to also do hits where you go all out, to use your passiv structures. He suggest also if I remember correctly that it shows your body what is possible and what not, so you are confident in a fight.
Myself for example. I have been playing table tennis. In doing these strokes you definetly use momentum, passiv structure, snaping motions, exentric loading... I feel my playing arm is much more solid in armwrestling. I don't know really though if it is because of the tendon use or not. Playing topspin in table tennis involves your riser, your radio brachialis to execute force. To counter stroke (straight hit, block), you use a sidepressure similar movement with extended arm though. Also I am natural lefty. So of course these are also reasons why my left is stronger...
Long talk short. I would be interessted in you thoughts about "tendontrining"
Opinion in sport science (finishing 10 year ago, so maybe things changed):
Ligaments and tendons take longer to adapt than muscles (less bloodflow theory). Which can bring problems for people which have a fast strength increase (especially steroid users). Todd H states lot of repetitions strengthens tendons. I am not sure if this is true? I'd rather say hits, snaping motions, plyometric style movements will strengthen you ligaments and tendons. But hey sport science is definetly not only a exact science. Even though they try to implement as much nature science (quantitativ methods) as possible, still every body is a little bit different.
Ps: hope I didn't bore you :-)))
@@GangdamStyle20 - Not for beginners. You will get ripped open enough on the table to work your tendons anyway, so don’t focus on negatives unless you aren’t actively pulling at a club.
i thought side pressure is a lot of elbow. if i train bicep and back pressure will it be enough?
Ok Question I'm still pretty new to actually practicing this sport. We are told to pull so we don't get injured, isn't Side pressure the way us beginners would do it in High school "the wrong way" by not pulling. Or is it fine like most but just gotta train the arm for years and be like Ermes so my bones don't pop in that position lol
I'm also new, but my understanding is that you always need some sidepressure to win in any style, but when you apply backpressure that makes it easier for you to apply sidepressure and makes it weaker for the opponent to apply their own sidepressure. I think backpressure is much less stressful on the tendons and joints than sidepressure, which is why it's advised not to only use sidepressure like a beginner / highschooler would do. So sidepressure isn't inherently bad, but the way that beginners use it is. As for not breaking your humerus, there is a video by Table Monkeys on how to not break your arm, and its about keeping your hand in the middle of your body and within your shoulder line, like Rino said in this video.
@@fireking2343 Gotcha thank you, still makes me nervous cuz man I don't want my humerus to go out lol
What do you think about training side pressure only during table practice?
That is good too, but when doing table practice I would recommend that you don't do maximum effort because you will only make your tendons sore and you won't be able to continue training for a week or so. :)
How many days you do this in a week?
How maany sets and reps on these exercise?
What do you think about JM Presses? Todd Hutchings claims, that since he started doing them he never had elbow pain again.
I think it is grate! But only if done with low weights and more volume 😅
@@rinomasic7274 As far as I remember he does sets of 10 reps. So he neither does max weight nor high volume. I also remember that he uses different grips (closed grip and medium). Thanks for answering! I hope your channel does well.
Weighted dips and bench presses will automatically give you all the side pressure you need
Just to share experience, from Todd Hutchings I took JM presses and sidepressure training, no elbow pain and you said very important thing about keeping your arm inside the body, but overall doing parallel sidepressure gave me strength gain that I needed to start winning, so this is tricky stuff and everyone should be careful
Thank you for sharing your experience 😊 I also think the JM press is a grate exercise for side pressure, but what I'm referring to in this video are the exercise that are done on the table though a pulley that can cause a lot of pain and in rare cases injuries for beginners when training for strength (with heavy weights). 😄
@@rinomasic7274 Do you think beginners even need to train for strength? That would be an interesting video.
Do you always show in your videos that you do 3 reps, even in the side press 3 reps?
Because I'm close to my 1 rep max 😅 and I think it is more interesting to people when they se my max lifts then 70% of my max for 5 reps 😊
how often do you do table time?
Very rarely, I find that just training specifically for arm wrestling without table sesions works best for me. But when I have a table sesion I arm wrestle at 60% of my maximum and I just practice all of the techniques and try to perfect them 🙂
Can you leave your arm measurements(wirst, forearm, bicep)
The last time i measured my forearm was 40cm and bicep was 47 cm, I did not measure wrist size 😅
Bro, bicep same as mine, forearm not flexed 41cm, but I can't even imagine difference in strength. You're beast. 💪
How old are you ?
side pressure je zanemarivan cesto, dosta njih misli da je nebitna stavka, dovoljno da treniram fundamentalnosti a side pressure dode sam od sebe.
nekad cak i ako dominiras poziciju, uzmes ruku, u poziciji fantasticnoj, ne mozes zavrsit jer fali toh side pressura.
to je problem matt maska bio, pa i taras ivakin cak
does side pressure work in bed?
Your doing inside pressure, not pure side pressure
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You are wrong im sorry but you need to learn more
SIDE PRESSURE COMES FROM SHOULDER AMD ELBOW ,i can see you making mistakes ..if you top roll take somebody wrist but you dont have su pressure you are not gonna pin him ,side does not involve oyeee things ,yes its mix with the moves but i just train fin way way just like todd hut húcthungs does
I don't completely agree, but on one hand, you are right.
Side pressure can be a lot of things and it can come from different muscles depending on the angle of your arm...
That is not side pressure
See todd hutching he expain you simple video
All you did is wrong i m sorry(sidepressure angages elbow shoulder Hand
“Uh” “Uhm” 😂
try speaking for a video without a script for the first time lol