PCT Method, How to Hang a Bear Bag

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  • čas přidán 17. 05. 2020
  • In this video I demonstrate the PCT or Pacific Crest Trail method of how to hang a bear bag.
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Komentáře • 93

  • @1967AJB
    @1967AJB Před 4 lety +29

    If bears ever get CZcams we’re doomed.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +10

      Yes, my channel is a complete security risk to all human kind from bears!

    • @Thebigbigpie
      @Thebigbigpie Před 4 lety +1

      UH OH BEARS GOT ON CZcams

  • @treborironwolfe978
    @treborironwolfe978 Před 4 lety +7

    Man.. my eyesight is really getting bad..
    I first read your video title as "PCP Method..." and I rubbed my eyes..
    Second time I read "PCT Method, How to Hang a Bear." I rubbed my eyes again..
    Third time I read something about how to hang a bean bag and it sounded interesting, so here I am. :)

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +6

      I've got a bit of dyslexia myself. I am forever reading things the wrong way the first time.

    • @treborironwolfe978
      @treborironwolfe978 Před 4 lety +1

      @@KevinOutdoors Hvanig poor eeysgiht aolng wtih redaing dfifcilutes can be ruogh.

    • @AJKPenguin
      @AJKPenguin Před 4 lety +3

      This comment thread wins the prize.
      Seriously, how do you hang a bear with a bean bag?

    • @COShea-iw6ii
      @COShea-iw6ii Před 4 lety

      @@AJKPenguin ...a really heavy bag as counter-weight? I dunno. ;)

  • @KUEHLKUEST
    @KUEHLKUEST Před 4 lety +7

    Another great way to hang your food bag! Thanks for sharing Kevin Cheers from Michigan Colleen and Jonny 🇨🇦🇺🇸

  • @craigrobertson6082
    @craigrobertson6082 Před 3 lety +1

    Kevin - super well explained.

  • @earlhayes2969
    @earlhayes2969 Před 4 lety +7

    Bear might cut tree down to get to your Dehydrated Butter Chicken I know I would Delicious!! Thanks Kevin always learn something new from your Channel Earl 👍🇺🇲

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +1

      LOL, thanks Earl. I need to keep the butter chicken in a better place 😀

  • @Winter8R1
    @Winter8R1 Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid Kevin - thanks for sharing!

  • @Thebigbigpie
    @Thebigbigpie Před 4 lety +7

    The five dislikes are from bears finding out that we have methods to keep our food away from them

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +3

      LOL, probably, I mean who could be so upset about a 5-min video on how to hand a bear bag that they would hit 'dislike'?

    • @Thebigbigpie
      @Thebigbigpie Před 4 lety +2

      @@KevinOutdoors yeah lol

    • @DominiqueB
      @DominiqueB Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@KevinOutdoors my understanding is that the thumbs down are actually thumbs UP, contributed by our friends from Australia and New Zealand.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 9 měsíci

      LOL, that is the best explanation yet!@@DominiqueB

  • @WanderingWiley
    @WanderingWiley Před 4 lety +4

    Great simple trick that I never would have ever thought of

  • @clarkansas6590
    @clarkansas6590 Před 4 lety +1

    Great demonstration

  • @sosteve9113
    @sosteve9113 Před 4 lety +1

    Nicely done,thanks for showing

  • @AJKPenguin
    @AJKPenguin Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent production Kevin! Thank you sir for a refreshing take on an important review of a vital camping asset.
    Love the camera angle at 3:15. "Raising the Maple Leaf"

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety

      Thank you kindly!

    • @AJKPenguin
      @AJKPenguin Před 4 lety

      @@KevinOutdoors
      You're welcome sir. Always a treat to see your content.
      PS: Hope you and yours are doing well.

  • @TheRealJerseyJoe
    @TheRealJerseyJoe Před 4 lety +1

    Great demonstration... thanks Kevin !

  • @timneil2059
    @timneil2059 Před 3 lety +1

    thats a cool trick. Thanks for sharing!

  • @COShea-iw6ii
    @COShea-iw6ii Před 4 lety +1

    I had to watch a couple of times to get this to sink in to my noggin... and I'm glad for your calm, informative style. Good stuff.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety

      Glad it helped, it isn't an intuitive thing but it works well and no knots at the bottom.

  • @DorisHikingAdventures
    @DorisHikingAdventures Před 4 lety

    Thanks again for the great advice! This is very helpful

  • @dwrivers47
    @dwrivers47 Před 4 lety +1

    Very clever!

  • @TheAmirSheidaei
    @TheAmirSheidaei Před 4 lety +1

    That was amazing

  • @bryant7046
    @bryant7046 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome thank you

  • @jeddles2710
    @jeddles2710 Před 4 lety +2

    I didn’t even know what a bear bag was haha. Awesome

  • @FreakofNature1
    @FreakofNature1 Před 3 lety +1

    Another goodie!

  • @CanoehoundAdventures
    @CanoehoundAdventures Před 4 lety +1

    Great little tutorial Kevin... Thanks for sharing... Dennis

  • @lcastleberry
    @lcastleberry Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you! Going to do this on an upcoming Colorado, solo, camping trip. Will be taking many dehydrated recipes I've made of yours. Don't want them getting my delicious meals. Lol!

  • @bryant7046
    @bryant7046 Před 4 lety +1

    Got yourself a new subscriber here

  • @jeanettewaverly2590
    @jeanettewaverly2590 Před 4 lety +1

    Cool!

  • @laurametheny1008
    @laurametheny1008 Před 4 lety +2

    Yes. I'm glad you've covered all the angles! Just think of the ones who get it high enough but really close to say....the trunk? Lololololol.🐻Stay safe out there😷🤘🏼

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety

      Yes I have seen lots of bear pinata hangs! :)

  • @pvesely299
    @pvesely299 Před 4 lety +5

    The beard is real “Yukon” looking. You look so different. Ha ha. Thanks for the tutorial.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Paul, it feels weird, I haven't grown one this long before. 🙂

    • @AJKPenguin
      @AJKPenguin Před 4 lety

      Yukon Cornelius just needs gold "And SILVER!"

  • @raphaelh42
    @raphaelh42 Před 2 měsíci +1

    nice video thank you, it looks really convenient
    after watching a video about a problem with this method, it seems the line can rarely accidentally "gets secured", and using a locking carabiner prevents this to happen

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 2 měsíci

      Interesting, I will have to check that out. I am guessing that it is possible for the line to get caught on the snap of the carabiner?

    • @raphaelh42
      @raphaelh42 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@KevinOutdoors i don't know how to explain properly but it seems the line can "go in" the carabiner then you can't pull anymore and need to climb the tree to get the food back
      The video where i saw this is called "Problem with the PCT Method (Hanging Bear Bags)", it seems it happened to some people in the comments of it
      i just spread the info hoping it could prevent the need of climbing to some people ^^

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 2 měsíci

      @@raphaelh42 Great, thanks I will check it out.

  • @Woodswalker1965
    @Woodswalker1965 Před 4 lety +3

    Nice one! I usually don't use that method but I will try it. Cheers!

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +1

      It is usually not my thing either but occasionally it is the thing to do.

  • @blackdogbite
    @blackdogbite Před 2 lety +1

    Kevin
    Thanks for the video.
    I have been trying to hang bear bags successfully for decades.
    Many videos and writings make it sound very easy. It is not.
    You're food back looks like it has only a loaf of bread in it. Especially on canoe trips, that food back can weight 40 pounds at the beginning of a trip. This makes it EXTREMELY difficult to use this technique.
    1. If your branch is too slender or flexible...the load will cause it to bend. Fail.
    2. If your line is not strong enough or too stretchy, this won't work. Forget Paracord!! You need something REALLY sturdy like 1/4"-3/8" climbing rope or arborists rope. Even with a like this it can be really difficult.
    3. The friction between the rope and the branch is significant and becomes more so the heavier the bag is.
    I am experimenting with an arborist's friction saver. This is a short lengthened line... about 16", with a metal ring at each end. You also need 50 ft or so of very light throwing line like Zing It. I won't describe the method. There are plenty of videos showing this. It's not exactly simple and definitely requires a lot of practice before you can reliably use it.
    I would recommend that anyone who has not mastered this, practice for quite a bit before you go out into Bear country. It's one of those things that seems easy but it's not. Don't practice on the perfect oak tree in your backyard. Go out into the woods and look for trees that are somewhat less than perfect because that's what you're going to find in the woods that you will be in.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 2 lety +1

      You are bang on blackdogbite. I have just started this series on bear hangs. I plan to cover some of those other issues in future videos.

  • @titanecampi
    @titanecampi Před 4 lety +1

    excellent tip Kevin my way was more complicated

  • @stephenrobinson5949
    @stephenrobinson5949 Před 4 lety +1

    another great video. how about showing us how you store that rope so that it is neat but unravels in the throw

  • @FatKnittingMath
    @FatKnittingMath Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this helpful video! I have a question: I've had issues with bear bags on longer backcountry trips: the rope doesn't slide over the branch when the bag is heavier so it can be difficult or impossible to hoist the bear bag high enough. Is there a way to get around this?

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +2

      Great question! The weight of the bag on a longer trip can cause enough friction between the rope and the branch, with a thin rope it can become impossible to hoist the bag. The trick is to remove the friction. In situations like that I bring a small pulley and an extra rope. Throw the rope and pulley over the branch and then lower it and thread the second rope through the pulley then hoist the first rope and tie it off. You should be able to hoist most food bags with that setup, unless they are really large. This will be in an upcoming video, not sure when.

  • @yichispiritual
    @yichispiritual Před 2 lety +1

    Can we use the bow line in replacement of the carabana?

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 2 lety

      You could but you would have to feed the length of line through the bowline instead of just clipping to it.

  • @l214laus
    @l214laus Před 4 lety +1

    No bears have given a thumbs down as yet.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety

      They will, they don't like my channel very much! 😀

  • @hyperboreanforeskin
    @hyperboreanforeskin Před 8 měsíci +1

    couldnt you send the line through the bowline instead of the carabiner?

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 8 měsíci

      That is possible but rope on rope will cause more friction. The carabiner is smooth and glides better.

    • @roberttrinies7698
      @roberttrinies7698 Před 3 měsíci

      Rope can cut rope.✌🏼

  • @meganmccrossan5670
    @meganmccrossan5670 Před 4 lety +1

    I have 3 problems I struggle with, in hanging bear bags: (1) finding a tree with a suitable branch (i.e. high enough, not close to other branches, perpendicular, strong enough to hold my food), (2) throwing the rope over that branch, (3) hoisting my food bag up at start of trip when it's heavy. Inevitably I end up hanging a bag that I know is by no means out of reach of any bear. So I've been lucky. But would like to do better than that.
    I've bought a couple of pulleys now, to tackle #3. #2 (the throw) is really hit and miss. I was using a water bottle as weight, and now it's all dented. Switching to rock in a sock. For #1 (finding a suitable branch) ... I feel like I've spent many a dusk hour walking round and round Algonquin looking for a suitable tree. They all look tall and spindly to me, and surrounded by bushes or low trees that snag my rope. Other than the few trees with big low branches overhanging the water. I'm always left wondering how everyone else manages to find a suitable tree. Sigh. I've been doing this for 25+ years. Everything else is good, but my bear hang's a disgrace.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Megan, I have been meaning to do a video on just this issue. If it is OK with you I may borrow from this comment. Yes, the perfect tree with the perfect branch is often a challenge. When this happens I resort to a two tree hang, suspending the food between two trees instead of one. This also usually helps with the throw too. Throwing is never easy and can become a comedy of errors, but usually throwing a rope through a crotch in a tree is easier than getting it over a high branch that is usually guarded by other branches. A pulley is a great idea. I often bring one that is also easy to throw. When travelling in larger groups or for longer periods of time it can be very difficult to hoist a large amount of food over a branch. The friction on the rope and the stretch of the rope can become very difficult to overcome. As a last resort a bear canister, or ursack or even tying my food barrel to a tree can work but I always make sure I am in true back country where the bears haven't become accustomed to human food caches. Thanks for the comment!

    • @meganmccrossan5670
      @meganmccrossan5670 Před 4 lety

      @@KevinOutdoors OMG! 2 trees, using crotch of a tree! I never thought of that. Thank you so much. Can't wait to get out and try it.

  • @johntuttle4486
    @johntuttle4486 Před 4 lety +2

    I would recommend an old wool sock over the nylon bag for throwing line of tree branch. Every hiker has/will have an old wool sock. will is a little grippier than the nylon and usually allows more throws before it come loose from the line.

    • @KevinOutdoors
      @KevinOutdoors  Před 4 lety +1

      Interesting, my clove-hitch is good but I might try that some time.