Billy the Kid: my favorite outlaw. He had beautiful penmanship and perfect punctuation. They say he was not that educated, but he sure was a heck of a lot smarter than these lazy millenials who can't even take orders correctly at fast food dumps. Heck, they were all smarter back then, and Mr. Tonstill was truly a proper, English gentleman.
Yeah, he's a lot smarter than these lazy millennials like Mark Zuckerburg and Beyoncé. Everybody in the 1800s was smarter than everybody today. That's why they had faster internet back then. Good looking though.
Others say that Garret shot someone full in the face with a shotgun and the body was unidentifiable, hence the quick burial and no photo. Bushy Bill Roberts sure had the same scars as Billy is reputed to have had. And, he sure knew a lot about the kid!!
Jedgar Pat Garret ambushed Billy the Kid and shot him in the chest with a Colt pistol. Brushy Bill Roberts don't even look like Billy the Kid and he was about 20 years younger. I have Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid and it's so over the top absurd it ain't even believable. In the book he has Brushy strip he claimed Brushy had 26 knife and bullet scars on his body. That means Brushy was stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tall tale. Brushy claimed to be in a shoot out with Pat Garrett and his posse. He got shot in the shoulder, jaw and the top of the head and the bullet went a inch and half back of the forehead.
@@ronniehenwood8580what research? The one where Pat Garrett says he did? Did you know, well, I bet you didn't, that there is no official document on file anywhere in New Mexico stating that Billy the Kid died that night? Or any night.There is no official document anywhere in New Mexico about a joures inquest or anybody seeing Billy the Kid's body.I wonder why nothing was ever filed with the state. The state did have death records back then. In the eyes of the state or territory as it was back then of New Mexico, Billy the Kid never died.Pat lied.Sorry
@@attilathehun0 except that brushy bill has a 93% match to billy on facial recognition software. The same software used by the FBI, CIA and Interpol. Also a 93% match in America would be enough evidence to convict a person in a court of law. If it's enough to convict someone, it's enough to establish an identity. On top of that brushy bill had matching BULLET and KNIFE wounds. You clearly don't know at all what your talking about.
@@amut6647 The 1990 study claiming Brushy is a match is rubbish. You don't need any photo scans to know that they have completely different faces and age just by looking at the pictures.
@@amut6647 There is no way anybody would even know that Brushy has the exact same scars as Billy. Morrison also claimed Brushy had 26 bullet and knife scars. Brushy was not stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tale that's total bullshit. Brushy and his backers are imposters and liars. His story ain't remotely believable. He had no special knowledge he did not get the birth name, birth mother, birth place right. He did not know who the first person Billy killed. He was not at Tunstall's funeral swearing revenge. After the killing of Brady and his deputy he claimed that he and Wate jumped the wall to reclaim his revolver from Brady's corpse and got shot in the fleshy part of his hip ect... not true.
The Broonie catcher. It's July 1881 Fort Sumner where is there any proof somebody tried taking a picture of Billy the Kid and Garrett stopped them? Nope a person did not have to draw a picture of the corpse either. The nearest camera man might be Silver City or Lincoln County so taking a picture of BTK's corpse would not even be do able.
I don't buy his story of how the Kid was killed. They say a conspiracy of one is plausible, but a conspiracy of 3 (or 4 if you include Pete Maxwell) is very difficult to pull off. The other members of Garrett's "conspiracy" were his two deputy's, J.W. Poe and Kip McKinny, who were standing right outside of Pete Maxwell's room when the shooting happened. Poe actually lived into the 1930's and wrote a book and essentially tells the same story as Garrett. Regarding the story of the Kid's "romance" with Paulita Maxwell, she also lived into the 1930's and spoke of her friendship with the Kid but denied that there was any romantic relationship with him. According to historical accounts, the Kid was indeed a ladies man and romanced many women in Ft. Sumner and elsewhere.
Its funny a outlaw that famous no picture of his death. In court Garrett had a hard time proving that he killed the kid. A lot of stuff that dont add up.
Empirefunfam Fort Sumner was very remote area with a tiny population. Most people did not have cameras back then. It ain't like Pat Garrett is going to make a phone call to newspaper and camera men from Silver City or Lincoln County to come drive up in their corvettes driving over 150 mph with their polaroid cameras to come see the corpse and take pictures. There is no pictures Custer's corpse, but that does not prove he survived the Battle of Little Big Horn.
@@attilathehun0 thier are plenty of pictures of famous out laws in there coffins, around that time and Billy the kid was very Famous especially in New Mexico.... And that tiny community liked Billy the Kid a lot. Also their are pictures of Billy the Kid a live why wouldn't they have pictures of someone wanted and Famouse like other outlaws around that same time and not have a picture any proof no body nothing????? Just word?
@@DukeLegend505 There is only one authenticated picture of Billy the Kid. Most people did not have cameras back then. Since you believe that Garrett faked Billy's death? Who's Billy Brushy?
@@DukeLegend505 There was a picture of Jesse James corpse, but that did not stop Brushy and Dalton from claiming he was Jesse James. He has a tombstone in Texas "Jesse James Allegedly Killed in 1882"
always wondered why everyone just repeats the same old stories they've heard when it comes to Billy, and a lot of them say it's hearsay, speculation. makes it hard for someone who might know some truths to say anything different and spoil his legend. maybe another story is not meant to be told. One story popped up with this statement. "Billy the kid is still one of the most beloved figures of the old west. And he's still keeping people guessing". now who would want to ruin that? Not me, but there is a Maxwell family secret. I can, however answer questions with a yes or no only.
Back in those days, an outlaw was dressed up and paraded around town for all to see after being gunned down to prove the outlaw was no longer a threat. Some were in storefront windows in caskets wide open. The Regulators were The ones who were said to have identified Billy after Garrett shot a young guy. Well, think about it, if your Best buddy was shot and killed that would mean that no one would ever be gunning for Billy. So, if I wanted to save my best buddy (the kid) I’d say “yup that’s him, dead as a door nail” Thats why the quick burial, no one except the Regulators actually saw the body…whom ever he was. This story in this video just doesn’t add up to me.
They did get clothes for Billy's Corpse. Anyways Billy was killed at night. Do you know how hot it gets in Fort Sumner in July? Nobody had to parade BTK corpse through town. There were people in that little remote town saw Billy's corpse. Excluding Billy the Kid at that time and location the regulators were either dead or out of New Mexico. Billy loved his fame there is no way he would want somebody taking credit for killing him.
Nope, not even close. Too young, didn’t speak Spanish, his handwriting didn’t match Billy’s, and his great niece said his birth date is in the family bible and it doesn’t match BTK’s.
@@BlackbirdSpecOps you clearly have some catching up to do, here's proof on how ALL of your claims are wrong czcams.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/video.html&ab_channel=BrettHall
That really, really bothers me to hear someone who is suppose to be such a knowledgeable, expert historian make such a blatant error. He says they found the birth certificate of Brushy Bill and then says Brushy was born "after" Billy was shot. The "facts" are quite different as follows. If Brushy was "not" Billy The Kid, then he was most likely Oliver P. Roberts who was born in 1879. Billy was allegedly killed in 1881. On whose crazy calendar do we find 1879 to be "after" 1881? On the other hand, Brushy claimed his real birth name was William Henry Roberts. I assure you they did not find a birth certificate for William Henry Roberts. Paul Hutton should be disregarded as a credible historian. He simply lied in this interview.
Billy wasn't killed by Garret in fact he lived to his early 90's before having a heart attack. It's no conspiracy it's actually well known fact that Billy wasn't killed. Pat didn't help him escape he just shot the wrong man as he did twice before that. The man Pat killed was dark skinned Mexican back round with a beard, Billy could barely grow peach fuzz at 18-21 and that was well known by people close to the kid. The reason it's so hard to tell the truth like everything boils down to money. Do you realize the historical backlash in over turning that ? Millions and millions because what keeps Billy so famous is the legend behind him and once that everyone finds out he lived to be 91 what happens to those two only known pictures of the kids value? It would plummet . Brushy Bill Roberts was the kid many clarified that and he knew way way too much about Billy's friends , dates, places, wars, everything an he never came out and said he was the kid until the possibilitie of a pardon which he never got.
Mic Joseph You got it all wrong you are going with conspiracies and fabrications that's what all Brushy is Billy people do. AShenfelter's article "Exit Billy the Kid" is total rubbish about Billy's corpse's skin stained brown and had a beard. Ashenfelter was in Silver City and not Fort Sumner July 14th 1881. Hico and Hamilton have scamming tourist's dollars since the 1980's. There is no evidence Billy the Kid was ever in Hamilton and Hico. Brushy's knowledge of Billy the kid was not impressive, it's just Brushy folks that claim Brushy knew everything about BTK including things nobody else knew.
@@attilathehun0 If I'm not mistaken, Ashenfelter never said he was "in Ft. Sumner" or that he witnessed the brown skin and beard himself. He reported it in a newspaper article he wrote. He didn't say what the source was, but it is possible that he got that info by word of mouth. Didn't his article come out several days after the shooting? Someone who was there could have traveled to Silver City and interviewed Ashenfelter. There's no proof it happened that way and maybe Ashenfelter did fabricate his story, but there's also no proof that happened either. After many years of debating this with folks, I suspect we'll never know for a fact one way or the other. But it does bother me when someone espouses "they" know the facts without considering the pros and cons of their statements.
@@wayneland8101 Yeah it was days later, but no reliable source. I have Morrison's book and it's over the top absurdities about Brushy. He said he had Brushy strip and there were 26 knife and bullet scars on his body. That would mean Brushy was stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tale. Also in the book Brushy claimed to be in a shoot out with Pat Garrett and his posse and he was shot in the shoulder, jaw and the top of his head and the bullet went a inch and a half back of his forehead. That would of killed him, but he managed to escape supposedly with the help of some Mexicans. Brushy don't look like Billy the Kid.
@@BlackbirdSpecOps Except again several people who knew billy personally signed sworn affidavits stating brushy bill was billy the kid. You have some catching up to do czcams.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/video.html&ab_channel=BrettHall
I do not beleive that Brushy Bill was "Billy" It's Very unlikely that there was any "Deal" between Garrett and the Kid to let him escape. Garrett knew the Kid, knew his nature and persona, he knew if he let Billy go that the Kid would have showed up somewhere later in some sort of mischeif, stealing Cows or shooting someone who recognized him, Garrett would have looked the fool. Billy was not the sort to go off quiety and just fade into the background. No photographer for several days ride, in the mean time the corpse is smelling up the whole town in the July heat, Garrett was not about to take the remains anywhere. Garret did the only logical thing that was to quickly Bury the Kid, ride away from the Kids not too happy friends and be rid of the whole unsavory business. Brushy Bill likely knew a lot about the kid from someone who knew Billy or rode with him. He makes a fine tale but Sorry, he was not Billy the Kid
I have been to Lincoln and stayed at the Wortley Hotel. Very cool place. Nothing like it.
Billy the Kid: my favorite outlaw. He had beautiful penmanship and perfect punctuation. They say he was not that educated, but he sure was a heck of a lot smarter than these lazy millenials who can't even take orders correctly at fast food dumps. Heck, they were all smarter back then, and Mr. Tonstill was truly a proper, English gentleman.
Yeah, he's a lot smarter than these lazy millennials like Mark Zuckerburg and Beyoncé. Everybody in the 1800s was smarter than everybody today. That's why they had faster internet back then. Good looking though.
2 + 2 be 22 !!!
@@dks13827 yep! 0 +0 equals naught !! Lernt that 6th grade !!!
Others say that Garret shot someone full in the face with a shotgun and the body was unidentifiable, hence the quick burial and no photo. Bushy Bill Roberts sure had the same scars as Billy is reputed to have had. And, he sure knew a lot about the kid!!
Jedgar Pat Garret ambushed Billy the Kid and shot him in the chest with a Colt pistol. Brushy Bill Roberts don't even look like Billy the Kid and he was about 20 years younger. I have Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid and it's so over the top absurd it ain't even believable. In the book he has Brushy strip he claimed Brushy had 26 knife and bullet scars on his body. That means Brushy was stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tall tale. Brushy claimed to be in a shoot out with Pat Garrett and his posse. He got shot in the shoulder, jaw and the top of the head and the bullet went a inch and half back of the forehead.
Do the research. Billy was shot and killed in 1881 by Pat Garrett. Billy was ambushed, didn't see what hit him.
old man Robert's was born after Billy was shot and killed by Garrett
@@ronniehenwood8580what research? The one where Pat Garrett says he did? Did you know, well, I bet you didn't, that there is no official document on file anywhere in New Mexico stating that Billy the Kid died that night? Or any night.There is no official document anywhere in New Mexico about a joures inquest or anybody seeing Billy the Kid's body.I wonder why nothing was ever filed with the state. The state did have death records back then. In the eyes of the state or territory as it was back then of New Mexico, Billy the Kid never died.Pat lied.Sorry
brushy bill roberts is billy the kid no one else
Brushy Bill Roberts is a fraud. He don't even look like Billy the Kid and he did not look 90 either.
@@attilathehun0 except that brushy bill has a 93% match to billy on facial recognition software. The same software used by the FBI, CIA and Interpol. Also a 93% match in America would be enough evidence to convict a person in a court of law. If it's enough to convict someone, it's enough to establish an identity. On top of that brushy bill had matching BULLET and KNIFE wounds. You clearly don't know at all what your talking about.
@@amut6647 The 1990 study claiming Brushy is a match is rubbish. You don't need any photo scans to know that they have completely different faces and age just by looking at the pictures.
@@amut6647 There is no way anybody would even know that Brushy has the exact same scars as Billy. Morrison also claimed Brushy had 26 bullet and knife scars. Brushy was not stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tale that's total bullshit. Brushy and his backers are imposters and liars. His story ain't remotely believable. He had no special knowledge he did not get the birth name, birth mother, birth place right. He did not know who the first person Billy killed. He was not at Tunstall's funeral swearing revenge. After the killing of Brady and his deputy he claimed that he and Wate jumped the wall to reclaim his revolver from Brady's corpse and got shot in the fleshy part of his hip ect... not true.
If garrett shot the kid why no photo evidence or even a drawing of the body surly for proof that the kid is 💀
The Broonie catcher. It's July 1881 Fort Sumner where is there any proof somebody tried taking a picture of Billy the Kid and Garrett stopped them? Nope a person did not have to draw a picture of the corpse either. The nearest camera man might be Silver City or Lincoln County so taking a picture of BTK's corpse would not even be do able.
I don't buy his story of how the Kid was killed. They say a conspiracy of one is plausible, but a conspiracy of 3 (or 4 if you include Pete Maxwell) is very difficult to pull off. The other members of Garrett's "conspiracy" were his two deputy's, J.W. Poe and Kip McKinny, who were standing right outside of Pete Maxwell's room when the shooting happened. Poe actually lived into the 1930's and wrote a book and essentially tells the same story as Garrett. Regarding the story of the Kid's "romance" with Paulita Maxwell, she also lived into the 1930's and spoke of her friendship with the Kid but denied that there was any romantic relationship with him. According to historical accounts, the Kid was indeed a ladies man and romanced many women in Ft. Sumner and elsewhere.
I think I sold Paul a photo on ebay. :-)
Its funny a outlaw that famous no picture of his death. In court Garrett had a hard time proving that he killed the kid. A lot of stuff that dont add up.
Empirefunfam Fort Sumner was very remote area with a tiny population. Most people did not have cameras back then. It ain't like Pat Garrett is going to make a phone call to newspaper and camera men from Silver City or Lincoln County to come drive up in their corvettes driving over 150 mph with their polaroid cameras to come see the corpse and take pictures. There is no pictures Custer's corpse, but that does not prove he survived the Battle of Little Big Horn.
@@attilathehun0 thier are plenty of pictures of famous out laws in there coffins, around that time and Billy the kid was very Famous especially in New Mexico.... And that tiny community liked Billy the Kid a lot. Also their are pictures of Billy the Kid a live why wouldn't they have pictures of someone wanted and Famouse like other outlaws around that same time and not have a picture any proof no body nothing????? Just word?
@@DukeLegend505 There is only one authenticated picture of Billy the Kid. Most people did not have cameras back then. Since you believe that Garrett faked Billy's death? Who's Billy Brushy?
@@DukeLegend505 There was a picture of Jesse James corpse, but that did not stop Brushy and Dalton from claiming he was Jesse James. He has a tombstone in Texas "Jesse James Allegedly Killed in 1882"
love ya Paul!
always wondered why everyone just repeats the same old stories they've
heard when it comes to Billy, and a lot of them say it's hearsay, speculation.
makes it hard for someone who might know some truths to say anything different
and spoil his legend. maybe another story is not meant to be told. One story
popped up with this statement. "Billy the kid is still one of the most
beloved figures of the old west. And he's still keeping people guessing".
now who would want to ruin that? Not me, but there is a Maxwell family secret. I
can, however answer questions with a yes or no only.
was Paulita Max with child?
Back in those days, an outlaw was dressed up and paraded around town for all to see after being gunned down to prove the outlaw was no longer a threat. Some were in storefront
windows in caskets wide open. The Regulators were
The ones who were said to have identified Billy after
Garrett shot a young guy. Well, think about it, if your Best buddy was shot and killed that would mean that no one would ever be gunning for Billy. So, if I wanted to save my best buddy (the kid) I’d say “yup that’s him, dead as a door nail” Thats why the quick burial, no one except the Regulators actually saw the body…whom ever he was. This story in this video just doesn’t add up to me.
They did get clothes for Billy's Corpse. Anyways Billy was killed at night. Do you know how hot it gets in Fort Sumner in July? Nobody had to parade BTK corpse through town. There were people in that little remote town saw Billy's corpse. Excluding Billy the Kid at that time and location the regulators were either dead or out of New Mexico. Billy loved his fame there is no way he would want somebody taking credit for killing him.
Billy was actually born in New York 😉But his mother moved here when Billy was a young boy.
Bushy bill roberts was Billy the kid
Nope, not even close. Too young, didn’t speak Spanish, his handwriting didn’t match Billy’s, and his great niece said his birth date is in the family bible and it doesn’t match BTK’s.
Paul Ward Brushy can't be Billy. Different face, age, birth place, name and mother.
@@BlackbirdSpecOps you clearly have some catching up to do, here's proof on how ALL of your claims are wrong
czcams.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/video.html&ab_channel=BrettHall
He's not dead
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pretty certain ....nope
he didn't not die because we didn't want him to die
That really, really bothers me to hear someone who is suppose to be such a knowledgeable, expert historian make such a blatant error. He says they found the birth certificate of Brushy Bill and then says Brushy was born "after" Billy was shot. The "facts" are quite different as follows. If Brushy was "not" Billy The Kid, then he was most likely Oliver P. Roberts who was born in 1879. Billy was allegedly killed in 1881. On whose crazy calendar do we find 1879 to be "after" 1881? On the other hand, Brushy claimed his real birth name was William Henry Roberts. I assure you they did not find a birth certificate for William Henry Roberts. Paul Hutton should be disregarded as a credible historian. He simply lied in this interview.
Do you believe Brushy Bill Roberts is Billy the Kid?
Billy wasn't killed by Garret in fact he lived to his early 90's before having a heart attack. It's no conspiracy it's actually well known fact that Billy wasn't killed. Pat didn't help him escape he just shot the wrong man as he did twice before that. The man Pat killed was dark skinned Mexican back round with a beard, Billy could barely grow peach fuzz at 18-21 and that was well known by people close to the kid. The reason it's so hard to tell the truth like everything boils down to money. Do you realize the historical backlash in over turning that ? Millions and millions because what keeps Billy so famous is the legend behind him and once that everyone finds out he lived to be 91 what happens to those two only known pictures of the kids value? It would plummet . Brushy Bill Roberts was the kid many clarified that and he knew way way too much about Billy's friends , dates, places, wars, everything an he never came out and said he was the kid until the possibilitie of a pardon which he never got.
Except for the fact that BTK’s close friends identified him when Garrett shot him. Brushy was a fake.
Mic Joseph You got it all wrong you are going with conspiracies and fabrications that's what all Brushy is Billy people do. AShenfelter's article "Exit Billy the Kid" is total rubbish about Billy's corpse's skin stained brown and had a beard. Ashenfelter was in Silver City and not Fort Sumner July 14th 1881. Hico and Hamilton have scamming tourist's dollars since the 1980's. There is no evidence Billy the Kid was ever in Hamilton and Hico. Brushy's knowledge of Billy the kid was not impressive, it's just Brushy folks that claim Brushy knew everything about BTK including things nobody else knew.
@@attilathehun0 If I'm not mistaken, Ashenfelter never said he was "in Ft. Sumner" or that he witnessed the brown skin and beard himself. He reported it in a newspaper article he wrote. He didn't say what the source was, but it is possible that he got that info by word of mouth. Didn't his article come out several days after the shooting? Someone who was there could have traveled to Silver City and interviewed Ashenfelter. There's no proof it happened that way and maybe Ashenfelter did fabricate his story, but there's also no proof that happened either. After many years of debating this with folks, I suspect we'll never know for a fact one way or the other. But it does bother me when someone espouses "they" know the facts without considering the pros and cons of their statements.
@@wayneland8101 Yeah it was days later, but no reliable source. I have Morrison's book and it's over the top absurdities about Brushy. He said he had Brushy strip and there were 26 knife and bullet scars on his body. That would mean Brushy was stabbed and shot 26 times and lived to tell the tale. Also in the book Brushy claimed to be in a shoot out with Pat Garrett and his posse and he was shot in the shoulder, jaw and the top of his head and the bullet went a inch and a half back of his forehead. That would of killed him, but he managed to escape supposedly with the help of some Mexicans. Brushy don't look like Billy the Kid.
@@BlackbirdSpecOps Except again several people who knew billy personally signed sworn affidavits stating brushy bill was billy the kid. You have some catching up to do czcams.com/video/EK9oRxqmee0/video.html&ab_channel=BrettHall
I do not beleive that Brushy Bill was "Billy" It's Very unlikely that there was any "Deal" between Garrett and the Kid to let him escape. Garrett knew the Kid, knew his nature and persona, he knew if he let Billy go that the Kid would have showed up somewhere later in some sort of mischeif, stealing Cows or shooting someone who recognized him, Garrett would have looked the fool. Billy was not the sort to go off quiety and just fade into the background. No photographer for several days ride, in the mean time the corpse is smelling up the whole town in the July heat, Garrett was not about to take the remains anywhere. Garret did the only logical thing that was to quickly Bury the Kid, ride away from the Kids not too happy friends and be rid of the whole unsavory business. Brushy Bill likely knew a lot about the kid from someone who knew Billy or rode with him. He makes a fine tale but Sorry, he was not Billy the Kid