My new ULTIMATE Sonos ARC setup with Sonos Amp and Sonance In-ceiling speakers
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I love your home theater set up! The acoustic treatments you've done are great. The rockwool does a great job btw!
Such a dreamy setup, that's definitely my end game one day. Well done sir. I'm sure we all have favorite movies to show off our sound systems, but, I really highly recommend this movie to show off the sound; Saving Private Ryan 4k Dolby TrueHD/Atmos version. The sound in this version simply blew me away. So many scenes that just come alive. It never gets old, play it loud and proud! Great video as always!! Congrats on the renovations!
Thanks, I’ll be sure to check out that movie!
Pumped to see some new Sonos CZcams material my friend! Are these the five speaker stands we chatted about? Are they released now? Hope you’re vacation with the family was awesome buddy and as always, you’re very appreciated.
Happy Chinese New Year to you Peter! Appreciated the video
This is really interesting, Thanks for sharing! It would be really nice if you could use Sonos one for rear speakers with in ceiling for Atmos!
I have this set up and it's truly amazing! Quite $$ but definitely worth it! 👌🏽
so you have the ceiling speaker with the amp, how's the amp connected to the arc
Thanks
I love apple devics because they seamlessly works with each other with great features that’s why I’m using Apple TV 4k with Sonos Beam 2. I wonder if the upcoming Homepod 2nd gen will be on par or better from Sonos Beam 2
Thank you great video. How long before do you think Sonos will start to allow dual sub mini's? And will they allow a further expansion e.g. Arc, x2 subs, x2 one's, amp and 4 sonance in ceiling speakers? To allow a truly surround sound experience.
This is the video I was looking for; thanks for making it :). So the in-ceiling speakers are going to replace the ONE SLs? I was considering a similar set up however was confused if the in-ceiling speakers would replace the One SLs or could be had as an add-on. I like the side-firing One-SLs, especially during R-L or L-R moving objects or bullet sounds etc..not sure if the same experience can be created with in-ceiling.
Great review! Current setup- Arc, Gen2 sub, Amp using ceiling speakers as surrounds. I just ordered my era300’s today so I’ll be replacing the amp for surrounds. Is there any way I can somehow include the amp in my new setup? Thanks in advance!
Hats off to you sir
You have the dream setup! I have the Arc, Sub and Sonos Architectural ceiling speakers with Sonos amp. When I add the surrond speakers, it always adds a second living room. Is there a way to add the surrounds in the same room?
Appreciate the thought process, why not vlog the process of your installation / home reno as part of the series? Need more videos from you 😂
Hi Nick, thanks for your encouragement and support! I did another video on the setup!
I have a similar set up but I have two Ones connected to sound bar and subs but could not figure out how to combine the amp/sonance to the sound bar/subs/ones. Do I have remove the ones? How is this done in the app?
Have you had a chance to review the The new dragon love your channel
This setup needs a comparison with the era 300 surrounds vs in ceiling sonance. I can’t wait
He’s done it already. Eras take the cake.
It’s a 7.2.4 setup with the Eras (you get rears + additional atmos channels).
@@dt7961 Thank you! That’s great. Cheaper and better.
@@jesseproett3168 Yup! Unfortunately my living room is open plan (kitchen right behind), so it’s tricky adding the eras + stands (wife doesn’t want wires etc lol). So in ceiling might be the only way out for me.
Peter I had another idea that I hadn’t got around to trying yet. You could go back to your previous setup with 5s or 1s. Then add a non Sonos amp with atmos decoding and feed the ceiling speakers with the atmos channel. I have some ceiling speakers already further forward that are for music prior to getting arc etc. keen to try it one day.
That's a good idea. But I am concerned about the timing issues. Because two systems in parallel is going to process audio at different speeds.
There’s usually a sync adjustment on most amps, now you have the speakers installed you’ll have to borrow an amp to try it.
Great video, we missed you Peter!
I have a question for the community...
My Setup: Playbar, 2 Subs, 2 Fives for surround.
A year and some ago, I bought an arc to “upgrade” my family room setup. I mainly use it to watch tv but I also like to stream music on it. As soon as I connected de arc I noticed that the mids were not even close to those of the Playbar, the music just sounded better on the Playbar. I did a couple of tests with trueplay and without it but the results were always the same. Right now I want to upgrade to the arc because of the Atmos, HDMI and because I am having performance issues with the Playbar. Have any of you compare this speakers recently? Maybe with the updates now the arc performs better on the mids?
Do you think that Sonos will every allow you to have more that just a sound bar 2 subs and 2 rear speakers? I would love for Sonos to open it up for more. Ex. Using the one ls as upward or downward firing speakers.
Peter, how does this exact setup (arc, subs, amp and ceilings) sound with music with the Sonos amp and ceilings ‘setup’ as rear surrounds though sonos.?
Was thinking of the Nakamichi dragon but decided to go for something war better focal 301 setup
Thank you for the great vid
Welcome!
Do you like this setup better than two Fives? How do they compare? Whats a better option if budget isnt and issue?
Hi, I’ve got sonos ceiling speakers installed and hardwired to my TV but I want to enhance the experience with other speakers. I have a sonos one and a sonos one SL but I can’t connect them to the speakers to access the tv audio? Is there anyway around this or are they just not compatible with the amp?
Can I configure the ceiling speakers as atmos ceiling speaker using the sonos app?
I am planning to install Sonos Arc with Sub (Gen 3), and 2 x in -ceiling speakers (non-Sonos). The speaker wiring goes to a small closet where I want to install my Sonos Amp which is all away from the TV/Arc.
Is that setup fine or does the Sonos Amp have to be installed right next to the Arc?
Please answer this honestly.. i jave 2 gen3 and a arc…whats really better the incealings or era 300 ?
Hello peter your simply the best,i hope you can make a video on how you connect your ceiling speakers to the amp together with the Arc,surrounds and the dual subs,is the trueplay will do the auto settings?is it all together in one room?i mean because the home cinema doesnt accept more speakers for movies right?i mean doesnt accept to be the sound more theater like experience .thank you Peter
The Ceiling speakers are powered by the amp, and they are added as surrounds, not additional speakers on top of the surrounds.
Hey Peter. This, or using 2 Era 300s for rears + 2 subs and the arc?
Are these the same sonance in wall speakers that are on sale at Best Buy almost all the time. Usually sale price is about $170 for the pair?
Thanks!
Thanks so much Larry!
Thank you very much Peter for that great investment... You are a professional rubbery!!!
I'm still interested in your opinion and testing of the One + sub mini, before making the decision to leave Sonos and move to the side of SVS with the Prime Wireless Pro... Congratulations!!!
Muchas Gracias Peter por esa gran inversion... Eres un gomoso profesional!!!
Sigo interesado en tu opinion y testeo de los One + sub mini, antes de tomar la decisión de salir de Sonos y pasarme al lado de SVS con los Prime Wireless Pro... Felicidades!!!
Oh the SVS prime wireless pro! So many videos to make so little time. I want to check out the ones with sub mini in this room too!
Can you imagine that Sonos will make a upgrade to their Atmos experience and allow you to add a pair of ceiling speakers for the high channels? That would be absolutely amazing.. and where do you find this Dolby Atmos test video? Love your content btw..
Yeah that would be great, I wish Sonos more focusing on advanced customers. Willing to push for better sound profiles
Funny, read what I just posted. Truly interested!
is this still the ultimate or 2x era 300s?
Are the speakers in the ceiling designated for height channels
Hi Peter
My Arc stopped playing Atmos sound after last update!
Any help please 🥺
Thanks
Can you connect the Sonos Amp to a Sonos Arc + 1 Sub+ 2 Sonos SL?
Peter, I have the same setup in my living room, but the in-ceiling speakers I am using as my surrounds are a pair of basic Dayton audio with a much lower price point. It still sounds fantastic. I recently connected a Victrola steam carbon turntable to my sonos ecosystem and it sounds amazing. You may want to check that new product out if you have any interest in vinyl. People are always blown away when I put a record on and play it in different rooms throughout my house. Cool stuff!
Hello sir correct me if im wrong please,is the sonos amp with ceiling speakers can be pair with my existing set up?arc,dual subs and two sonos one sl?if i use the ceiling speakers with the amp i cannot use my existing surrounds?or i can add sonos amp with ceiling speakers with my actual set up?thank you
@@juanvalera7272 That is correct. You can only use one set of speakers as the surround sound channels. So if you have in-ceiling speakers which are connected to a sonos AMP, you can set those as the surround sound speakers. You should only use these if they are placed behind your seating area and are spaced out well. If those in-celing speakers are not in the right placement for surround sound channels, then you should use your two sonos one SLs. But you can't use both sets as surround sound. Only one.....for now at least.
@FortyOz ToFreedom Sorry how does connecting speakers outside of the Sonos ecosystem acctually work? I thought that if you had a sonos system you couldn't connect any speakers that weren't sonos...im confused please explain
have you tired to install bass shakers on your couch with this system for a 4D experience?
Great video! So what do you think about the New Nakamichi Dragon coming out?? Looks and sounds prtty impressive. Ive been so frustrated with Sonos this past year. I am hoping they are as good as advertised. It would be nice to see Sonos get competitive and do something new in relationship to Dolby.
It is really looking good. I was given an invitation to the CES but I never made it because of schedule. And now I wished I did if I had known they were going to show this monster. And you are right, all the other soundbars are looking very pedestrian when compared to this.
I’m skeptical of that system simply due to price. I had the Shockwafe system about a year or 2 ago. Sold for Sonos. Sonos sounds equal or better IMO, and looks 100x better IMO. And also integrates with my other Sonos rooms. The Dragon price (and you could argue Sonos for that matter) are putting you into solid AVR and real speakers competition. Depending on the room and aesthetics you want, I doubt it can compete. But I’m curious to see / hear it when it launches.
@@brandonharding1199 I believe the Nakaimichi dragon will blow away this Sonos set up. Because the Nakaimichi dragon is a revolution and cheaper and plug and play and easier to setup up, with out in speaker in ceilings!!
Hey Peter. Great video, great channel. So here’s one for you: I have an arc, dual one SLs as surrounds, and one sub. First, yes I will be doing a second sub. My tv is enabled for Atmos. It sounds awesome, but what’s worth doing is wired over doing 😊. I want more Atmos height. I now I can replace the surrounds with Eras 300s but I’m about to go further. I was advised to “add” a Sonos amp with two in ceiling speakers. The question is can I “add” that to my current setup or does the amp have to replace my current surrounds in the app configuration. Furthermore I was also thinking a second amp with two in-wall speakers for true left and right in front. Though I can do those as in ceiling over the tv. What are your thoughts on is this doable? Or an I dreaming a Sonos configuration that can’t be done? I know this is usually more expensive than what you can recommend. Let’s assume that is not a problem. I really look forward to hearing what you think. Thanks! - Miguel
Unfortunately, Sonos doesn't support them as in ceiling actual heights speakers. Nor do they support the left and right as your setup. So they will have to replace your surrounds. I actually run them as surrounds even though they are in my ceiling.
@@PeterPee Hey thanks for the reply. Yeah that seems to be general concensus. So let me ask you this, cause I believe you made this video before the Eras 300 came out. How would you rate the "ultimate" set up described here with an arc/s-subs/eras 300 ? And if I can through in an additional question, Because my Sonos 1 surrounds are under the overhanging lip of my kitchen island (about 5 feet behind my couch), the 300s would not be good there because no clearance for the upward firing drivers. My two choices are stands to the left and right, just behind my couch or wall mounts. The stands would have them really really close to where people sit so I'm not so sure about that. The wall mounts would place the right-surround about 5-6 feet diagnoally back and the left about 11 feet diagnollay back. Preference? Thanks again for responding.
Dear Peter, what a great review and amazing setup! Thank you. Do you know where you can download the Dolby Atmos Demo in your movie at 09:45? I would like to test this on my Sonos setup. Thx in advance.
Here you go!
www.peterpee.com/demo
@@PeterPee Thank you Peter. The image quality is amazing but no sound when i put this dload on stick and direct in my LG Oled C2. If you have any Tip ? Thank you. (i had already Atmos MKV demos with Atmos i see it in the Sonos app. ofcourse
What controller do you use if you don’t want to use your app
Can someone please explain to me how one could use bookshelf speakers as surrounds in a sonos Dolby system 🤨🤔
Hi Peter, thanks a lot for your nice videos! I’ll be installing this setup in our living room and have a question. The room is roughly 8x4m and we’ll put a 5m wide sofa against the back wall. Do you have any recommendations on speaker placement? Should we install the in-ceiling speakers as close as possible to the back wall? And at what distance centre to centre? And direct the speakers towards our listening position or towards the back wall so it bounces back? Thanks for your help!
My recommendation is to push it as far back as possible. Point towards the listening position. And as for the spread, at least 2.5 meters. You can probably afford more spacing as your sofa is 5m. I have never seen a 5m long sofa! That must look incredibly grand!
@@PeterPee thanks for the quick reply ! i guess we'll need to place the speakers just outside of the sofa to get surround in all seating positions.
Hi Peter, love your channel, I have a modest Arc, 2 Ones and Sub Mini and like it a lot but looks like you are swapping side and back for ceiling, you can't have both with the Arc? Do you think Sonos will ever upgrade their software/system to include both surround and height/ceiling (7.1.2)?
I didn't have time to put that into the video. But this is something that I have wanted from Sonos for the past 2 years by now. I want them to enable me to push Atmos to another pair of Sonos speakers which I am able to mount overhead. Or in this case, push the amp driving the sonance speakers.
I'm hoping Sonos gives us an option to add Sonos Amp w/ the ceiling speakers for atoms.
Thanks
Big thanks Raj!
I just need to add the 2nd sub and I'll be there except I'm using MCM ceiling speakers. What is the hidden menu that using Sonos speakers enables, can you post some shots of it?
I have posted the screenshots in the video. It's trueplay.
It would be great if in the future Sonos will allow you to hook Sonos Amp + 2 Sonance to a Sonos Arc + Sub + 2 Sonos SL
Wait we can’t do this?
Can you connect the Sonos Amp to a Sonos Arc + 1 Sub+ 2 Sonos SL?
@@brandonfernandes5698 unfortunately, no
Hi Peter! Do you still use the Nvidia Shield Pro with kodi for playing movies with TrueHD Atmos?
Yes, occasionally I do that.
I am planning a very similar setup to what you have built out. I have the option to do the Sonos In Ceiling Speakers as the surround sound speakers, or I could do the Sonos Ones at ear level. This would be paired with an Arc and a Sub Gen 2. Sounds like your recommendation is the In Ceiling Speakers?
I’m in the same boat. Deciding whether to go with 2 Ones or In-ceiling. Seems the latter is the recommendation, however when sonos add support for the Amp as height channels, we’ll need to update the setup (add actual rears/ones).
I just asked a similar question. I have the arc/sub/rears and I’m ready to get in ceilings with the amp. But I don’t know if they can be “added” to my setup or do they have to replace the current surrounds (which are ear level). Furthermore I’d love to get another amp and at a second set of in ceiling over the tv as front l/r. Again I don’t know if that can be added, all to my existing setup. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! Miguel
@@MiguelCastro67 My understanding is that currently, you can only add two surround speakers to the Arc setup. Those could be two in ceiling, or two ear level speakers like the One, Five, Era 100, or Era 300. But at most, only two surround speakers are currently supported. The Era 300 does add more upward firing Atmos channels though.
I suspected as so. I’ve considered getting a couple of 300s. My only concern is that if they go in the same location as my current Ones, it may not out. My house is an open concept so my couch faces the TV and my kitchen is behind me. More specifically, the large kitchen island is behind me. So, directly behind the couch is the back of the kitchen island which has a lip over it. It is on that back that I have a little Sonus shelves installed with the ones sitting right there so it’s literally at your level about 4 1/2 to 5 feet behind me. I guess my concern is that the 300s with your upward facing speaker will have that upward facing speaker about 6 inches underneath the overhanging lip of the back of the island. do you think that would matter? Because if it does make a difference, then my next step is to try to find a different location to put the 300s on stands somewhere.
Guessing because the internal S2 routing/TruePlay won't accomodate, but.... take the set up in this vid, but... the Amp driven ceiling speakers are additional "Atmos down firing" speakers and keep the Pair 5s for Surround at ear level. That would be my ULTIMATE set up, because the Arc's ATMOS doesn't accomplish anything to my ear. What say you Peter? I'm surprised Sonos doesn't have a TruePlay set up with down-firing ATMOS...
Yes Josh, that's what I was dreaming of. I have been wanting that from Sonos for the past 2 years since they launched the Arc and this idea came to my mind.
I bought a pair of the new Apple HomePods to replace an older Sony soundbar. Definitely disappointed with the overall volume in my open living room / kitchen. I am now looking into a ARC with sub
With Arc + Sub... I can't imagine you'd be disappointed with volume and loudness levels. Then again, maybe let me know how big your space is? If it's like a 2000 sq feet living room + kitchen then it's going to be hard to fill it with anything. :)
Hi Peter, do you have the intention of checking out the nakamichi dragon as well? It is even cheaper than the setup you have in this video and it looks like its gonna be quite a big deal. Also, how do you think Sonos will react to the dragon? First soundbar ever to have AVR Atmos as well.
The last time nakamichi launched a dragon, it was a tape deck and it was a big deal. I am sure it’s a big deal this time round. I don’t know if I can buy that though. It’s really too much to invest after spending this much. Haha.
Def selling my Sonos Arc + Sub + 2 SLs If the Dragon is all it claims to be! Can’t wait for reviews and availability ✅
It's going to be HUGE though... But drawing as much power as my iron and water heater, I am keen to hear how that sounds like.
@@raphatexas I’m with you. True Dolby decoding like AVR’s, the amount of drivers and actual up firings speakers from the satellites. Was hoping Sonos would have released ceiling speakers that were wireless outside of power. Or maybe a more powerful Arc or better Arc design. Maybe the Ones SL with up firing speaker.
I like my Sonos system, but I think the Dragon will be better. I’m coming from an Arc, dual subs and 2x One SL.
No way Peter. I’m not spending any more MONEY no no no. Stop it! 😂😂😂😂
If I spend another dollar wifey will be HIGHLY UPSET
Just keep talking about it every day. She'll cave. See my room for example.
How much of a difference do you notice between the era 300’s as surrounds vs the ceiling speakers? Currently I’m using Sonos 1’s as surrounds but I’m planning to upgrade to the Sonos ceiling doeskerd speakers with a Sonos amp. Any thoughts on this? Thanks🙏
Did you get an answer on this?
@@brantleyattaway8311 no I never did. I ordered the amp and speaker bundle with one of my 15% upgrade credits, I’m going to test them out. If I’m not happy I have 45 days to return them to Sonos and I’ll just keep my Sonos ones. I wish I had the wall space for the 300’s but those are not an option.
@@johnbelvedere5040 I called Sonos twice today and got opinions from two associates and their advice was the 300s are "way better" than the in ceiling. I plan to put a pair of 300s on stands, against my better judgement. I do not have room on my wall to mount them either (like I wanted).
The only time i would use the sonos amp is to add a more powerful subwoofer to the sonos arc or beam system
Great setup…. However anyone thinking their Arc, 1x sub and 2x One SL perhaps isn’t good enough….. the basic setup is still very good!
Absolutely is
Can you connect the Sonos Amp to a Sonos Arc + 1 Sub+ 2 Sonos SL?
Hey Peter. Will you recommend this setup over the Amp + In-Wall Set? Is there any advantage using in-ceiling?
If you need accurate surround, the in-wall will do better. I opted for this ceiling because... I have a hunch that Sonos might enable the amp to drive ceiling speakers for atmos effects.
I see. And when they do, you’ll use your Fives as rears. Right now, your Fives aren’t being used in this setup?
Hi Peter. What settings were the curves generated from? Eq, tru play, sub level etc… ?
Good point. Forgot to mention them. Everything was stock. I usually do ALL my testing with flat EQ, sub levels at zero, loudness on by default, no night mode, no dialogue enhancement and trueplay off. Basically, what you get out of the box.
@@PeterPee so that seems to point to your acoustic panels may have given you a flat curve without any adjustments? I’d be interested to see the curve after Truplay and new recommended settings.
Does this setup have surround + atmos channels on the rear?
No atmos on the rear.
You should try to “group” the bookshelf speakers permanently to this setup to widen the front L/R stereo image. I did this by creating another room in the app and disabling “ungroup on autoplay”. I then downloaded Soro on my iPhone to create shortcuts for controlling both of the rooms simultaneously. I love the arc, but there is nothing like having dedicated speakers on the far left and right. Once you hear the difference, I promise you won’t want to go back!!!
That’s a good idea! And very big thank you for your contribution!
@@PeterPee so welcome! One downside to my proposed setup, I had to add sync delay for the arc to match up with the bookshelf speakers. I do think the trade off is worth it!
@MrDexterSr So your front speakers (left, right) are connected to the Sonos Amp in Room #1 and the 2 subs, Arc and Rears (Surrounds) are in Room #2 and then you group this two rooms and put a delay on the Sonos Arc and control all that with the mentioned app? Would like to know more about your setup.
@@MrDexterSr Oh, think I get it. Room #1 are for example two play 1 as stereo pair. But if I use an Amp I could use other/better Hi-Fi speakers to enhance the sound.
Interesting! Did you run TruePlay? How does this setup keep the sounds from colliding and sounding muddy? So curious!
Do you have a video that addresses the loud cracking sound that happens with dolby atmos and vision using apple tv 4k gen 3? A problem for over two years now. The only thing I see is to disengage the atmos which is very disappointing. What are you using as your source for content? I have 1s as my rears. I also have 5s which I will try as rears, but might be overkill especially with no atmos…
Nicholas, to be honest anything beyond the ones are really overkill for surrounds. I am using the fives and amps to drive these sonance speakers for surrounds but it’s really not worth it.
I am using a windows PC for the source. It has a RTX3060 card with hdmi 2.1 output so Atmos is not a problem. It passes to the LG CX tv properly. For the Apple TV 4K I personally haven’t encountered the issue.
Peter, are you going to do a video on the Sonos Era 100 & Era 300 soon?
Yes... I actually filmed it over the weekend. Just released... And I realised the Verge beat me to it by 10 hours. :D haha. I think, their report might just violate a whole bunch of NDAs... if they did sign one...
@@PeterPeelol I thought the same thing when I read the article! Love your content btw
Peter, will the Nachimichi Dragon be a strong competitor for this “ultimate” Sonos setup?
I believe so... I just wonder how I can get my hands on a set....
Is everything running ok with the latest Sonos speaker updates?
Yes, all good.
@@PeterPee Thanks Peter, this is 14.20.1 correct? Really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work!
Peter to his fans : “ive just purchased the Sonos sound carpet paired with the Sonos ceiling and Sonos walls for 15,000 USD…is it worth it? The short answer without watching the entire video is yes…but should you tell my wife?….no”
Dear Sonos community , is it still worthwhile to buy Sonos Amp at this point of time ?
Sennheiser Ambeo or even others, compared to: Sonos ARC with a sub? Sonos ARC with a pair of Sonos 5? ARC with mini sub and a pair of 5s? Audio dynamics: highs, mids and lows?
does adding a sub and or Sonos 5s allow the Sonos ARC to be noticeably, cleaner and more dynamic since some of the work goes to other speakers? Or is it just the Sonos software and hardware design that stops it from sounding as good as say a quality pair of studio monitors, like say Yamaha HS8?
Room size is 13ft x 19ft and 8ft high I do not listen to rap and do not like too much bass. I listen to all rock, Country Western, Bluegrass,new age, bag pipes, pipe organ, punk, piano, a cappella, metal, I hate the stuff they pass off as music mostly since all the auto tune and gridding of noise/music, or since about late 90s. Most pop "music" today is just cheap and easy to make noise. Country today is crap!
Thank you!
I have the Sonos Arc with dual One SLs and a Sub Gen 3. The next upgrade will be replacing it with the Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 surround sound system.
That’s some serious upgrade!
@@PeterPee Originally I was thinking of adding another Sub, but then Nakamichi announced that Dragon at CES and I knew where my next level experience was heading. Everything I’ve heard seems to say it will put anything my Sonos system does for a home theater experience to shame.
And possibly ever other soundbar out there.
@@PeterPee Can you connect the Sonos Amp to a Sonos Arc + 1 Sub+ 2 Sonos SL?
$3760-4000 can (and should) go a heck of a lot further on a home theater setup than this.
Sonos is insane with all that.
Buy used. I paid under $1500 for the same setup.
Installation more like $1-2k by a professional. Totally not worth it unless you’re building the room from scratch.
Thanks!
Thanks Oscar! Very much appreciated!