Should the Ford Bronco be Worried About the Updated 2024 Jeep Wrangler? Let's Compare Them!
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- After spending a week in the 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands Sasquatch we were left thinking about how the Bronco sizes up to the updated 2024 Jeep Wrangler. So we decided to compare the two products, as each one is dependent on the other for competition.
So watch the full video and let us know in the comments what you think of the updated 2024 Wrangler and how it compares to the Bronco.
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Love your channel. There is one discrepancy though, you made it sound like the back window of the Bronco isn’t movable when in fact it does tilt up with pressing two handles underneath.
Doesn’t the back of the soft top lift up so you have space to access the trunk?? Pretty sure it does.
It’s getting to the point that I’m not sure the mechanical capabilities of vehicles are even worth comparing these days. With the computer and technology malfunctioning rate increasing, nothing works unless the computer does. Jeep and others certainly have their issues. I guess I’ve become a bit pessimistic about modern vehicles. Seeing the recalls, non start situations, brand new vehicles needing towed, all due to computer problems, it’s just hard to focus on the fun stuff when the most basic of things like starting, can be an issue
FORD NEEDS TO DROP THE PRICE ! Or give some Rebates 😅
Thanks for the great comparison. The takeaway message here is that competition is a good thing between Ford and Jeep. Keeps everyone working hard to give the best that they can offer to the consumer.
Not to be a Debi Downer, but in 2024, you will need a minimum credit score of around 750+ , 20k cash down, just to see a payment of $800+ a month payment.
This. The market is in the toilet.
I put no money down, credit score of around 680, and have payments of much less than 800 per mo. 2024 Rubicon 2-door
@@twagnThat’s a 2 door though, and for how many months and what trim?
@TobyCostaRica he's lying. Minimum price is $58,185+ taxes title and fees. The lease payments are $675+ taxes and fees. To purchase the vehicle with a minimum of $8,000 cash down and the cheapest financing at $1,066 per month.
@@twagnif that’s even true, you probably took the loan out over the max term of a 120 months. Lol who in there right mind wants a vehicle payment for 10 years??
Stephen, There is plenty of 4X4 SUV market space for everyone. This is why Ineos and at least one additional Land Cruiser are joining the party. All this begs the question of why GM persists in ignoring this lucrative segment. 🤔
Yes, this is where they should of used the Blazer name plate. I have a 90 gmc Jimmy full size and the new blazer was no 90's blazer throw back like bronco.
I would also add for Ram bring back the RamCharger make on the TRX platform and boom there you go add the 6.2 liter in it add the horsepower from the TRX it will sell like hot cakes but make it affordable too.
Great video Stephen , the only thing i would change on the Bronco is stick with the 2.3 echo boost it has plenty of power for my needs and most people, i drove my friends son's Bronco with the 2.3 and 10 speed auto with the Sasquatch package with the hardtop and there is no lack of pickup on the road or merging onto the highway ,and it even came close to to the transport Canada fuel rating, i just would pick a different colour, Jeeps JK or JL are terrible on road, way too twitchy and don't like the death wobble and the Jeep's front seats aren't comfortable compared to the Bronco's, they are way better, they are both too much money, hopefully pricing will stabilize soon and be able to afford one 👍
A Jeep is a Jeep, A Harley is a Harley and a Corvette is what a True sports car is all about!!!
I have a 2014 jku, the best way I can put it is I love driving it, but HATE owning it. I’ve repaired so much on it and I’ve never drove it hard. Jeeps just break so damn much.
The bronco is just too expensive, BUT if I had spare money, as much as I dislike four cylinders the manual and four banger look like a great combo. That granny gear “crawl gear “ looks like a really nice feature coming from someone who’s first car was a 1988 izusu trooper
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During the powertrain section, it's worth mentioning that Ford is one step away from having a recall on the 2.7 and 3.0 ecoboost engines. The government has been slow-walking this since 2022, but it's now in the formal "engineering analysis" phase of determining if the numerous valve issues reported between 2022 and early 2023 warrant a recall.
ecoboosts are trash nothing new, all of them even the 3.5 & 2.0
Yea dropping valves is a serious issue!
And in a 100000 miles when the rubber oil pump belt melts and breaks there is gonna be alot of sad bronco owner's
They need to bring back the base or like announced the work model.
Great Video! I’d like to know where these power lines trails are..
My 2024 Rubicon Extreme Package it’s absolutely awesome! My Jeep drives great! The Jeep is superior to the Bronco and I’m a Ford guy…
Have you driven a Badsquatch? It’s a good time, looks good too. I think it’s a taste thing but for me the bronco is more fun.
@@Papershields001 I did drive one… my niece bought one and I really liked it. However, I prefer the JEEP with a naturally aspirated V6 better visibility from the driver seat and of course, the solid axle front differential.
Good morning Steve.. Thank you for the Bronco video
Great video Steve! Very informative. I kinda can't believe that the soft top limits rear access so much. Who came up with that? Are there any other examples of comparable numbskullery hidden in the Bronco? Or is there a reason for the roof to make the trunk less useful? Cheers!
Excellent Review!!! 😁
I thought jeep would still stay in sleep. But good to see them thinking about their future. I have been a jeep guy since childhood but the new bronco won my heart when it came in.
I just had a 2024 Jeep Willy's home for work. I was extremely disappointed. Especially at the price point they "think" these should be priced at anymore. This one was close to $60k for a Willy's. And it already had issues with infotainment system not working.
Insane!!
wonder if jeep will fix metallurgic corrosion since the bronco doesnt have it; wrangler paint bubbles all over and is annoying
Jeep and Bronco are like 35s and 37s? No problem! Meanwhile, Toyota is like you'll have 32s and you'll like it.
The tires do in fact say wrangler they are only on the inside where it can't be seen.
I actually don’t think the Wrangler is tiring to go to mall. It is tiring on long drives on highways, because of need for constant steering adjustments, the ride of Wrangler is not too bad.
Yeah, I daily my JKU Rubicon and it's just fine. On 8+ hour road trips, that's where you feel it. A little less on road comfort is an easy trade for a solid axle.
What I'm thinking, toyota should bring v8 70 series land cruiser, and ends this two brands in America
I would love to see a video about a Sasquatch manual. 2 and 4 doors
I had that exact Bronco. The top, the door frame, the interior materials are horrible. The layout is good; the lockers turn off and on quickly, and it genuinely drives good down the road but overall Ford has some work to do on engines that are blowing up, materials inside a 60k vehicle and sorting some of the front suspension pieces that break when off roading. I currently have a 2024 4xe Willy’s and it’s simply put together better plus on the 2024 they fixed the steering it’s very tight, the screen is great update, addition of side curtain airbags (yes it’s about time), and for the first time a switchable rear locker without having to buy a rubicon. Plus it’s nice having the electric range for short trips around town. I have now gone 974miles on one tank of fuel!
You sure do short off road trips . Have they fixed the corrosion problems on the aluminum panels ? Every older JL i have seen has had mega paint bubbling .
@@rodgood don’t live in the rust belt so never saw any rust. I’m lucky if I see rain in Arizona
Sounds awesome! So glad jeep finally put a rear locker in the Willy's. It's like the perfect package to me.
Did they change anything on the steering specific in 2024??? My 23 I feel drives ok but could be better.
@@Michael_ryan91 they definitely used a stronger steering stabilizer and just overall it seems to be screwed together better.
I have pretty much the same color and model as what's presented here except I've got a hardtop with the mid package. I absolutely love my choice and have never looked back. I've driven plenty of Wranglers on and off road and yes they are quite capable and even a little more capable than the Bronco in some scenarios but the overall seal of the Bronco as a daily driver is just a little bit better in suits my needs
Looking at the Jeep on-line pricing configurator, it appears you can no longer get the V6 & Automatic Transmission combo. Every time i picked the automatic transmission, it changed to the Turbo 4 Cylinder engine. (not talking about any of the 4Xe models). Can you confirm if that is now the case for '24? (V6 only with 6 speed manual).
I see a good selection of wranglers on all the lots around me. That is the part Ford needs to compete with. Availability. Also (and this goes for many of fords models) stop forcing top trim levels in order to get the larger engine.
Did you ever think that maybe there's a better selection of Jeeps on lot because previous Jeep buyers are buying broncos now?
@@AK_Ray I suspect the majority of jeep owners are pretty loyal but of course some will jump ship. I don't think that is the reason for excess inventory. Most likely too many upgraded trim levels bringing the price up, outrageous dealer markups, and the high interest rates keeping people from qualifying for loans. Not too mention with the economy people are holding back on toy spending since their grocery bills have doubled.
At 7:50 trail off-road pages. How much Canadian information is there?
very little
Jeep has trail turn assist with the Tazer JL.
Ford did release bronco trail app
It’s good to have competition. The Bronco is what got Fiat to update the Jeep. Ford isnt worried, they are still just a small part of the market. Everyone is uping their game. Jeep, Nissan, Toyota, ect. It’s great.
Hopefully Ford has upped their game on the build quality. I have seen some major quality issues. I know others have quality issues but or the money you pay plus dealer mark ups, it is not good.
How is the powertrain reliability on Bronco nowadays? Or Wrangler would still be a much more reliable option?
Ineos Granadier??
All the on paper specs are ok but put them on the trail & drive until one can't drive any further.
Good way to break a tie rod/ hub bearing making the wheel come off
SOLD my Jeep wrangler for the 2023 Bronco Wildtrak and couldnt be happier! The Jeep was a good car but it drives horrible, the only thing it did a little better was in serious rock crawling imho. The way the Bronco drives is amazing. So smooth tracks straight down the road and I don’t have to fight the steering back an forth as i drive.
I really thought I’d be seeing a lot more Broncos on the road, but even in California for every Bronco I see, I see 10 JL wranglers. Looking at the sales numbers I’m surprised Toyotas Dinosaur 4Runner is selling better than the Bronco.
The Bronco was neck and neck with the Wrangler in sales until the strike happened. I have no doubt that the Bronco will eventually take over the Wrangler in Q3 of 2024
@@texasbradley Ranger Raptor is a better deal than both of them.
@@jeffk464 The ranger raptor needs much improvement. To the suspension and the tires. Chevy still has it. Once they adopt real live valve and 35 inch tires out will be ok.
@@jeffk464maybe a better deal but so ugly
I'm still cautious of the soft top in the Bronco for Canadian winters, should I be?
yes!
100% you should be. I was at my local dealer the other day and they had a 2023 on the lot and the back side window was partially undone. It’s like a tongue and groove system to take them in and out. I don’t think they would stay in very well. And I sure done see them keeping the water out very well. There’s a reason why everybody that gets one immediately buys a hole new top from best tops.
Well you should move to Vancouver.
All you have to do is compare the Bronco and Wrangler on IIHS. That says enough.
If Ford had partnered with Bestop, the soft top would have been a lot better.
My favorite Jeep Wrangler option is the "death wobble." If you check out the NHTSA crash films, look for the Jeep Wrangler. A Bronco for me!
Wrangler doesn't even have LED headlights and power windows standard across all models. Wrangler still catching up with the Bronco in terms of standard features. I am pretty sure that AC and non carplay stereos would still be options on the Wrangler if the Bronco didn't come back.
Exactly what I was thinking, Jeep didn't surpass the bronco in the update they just almost made it even.
If Ford wants to KO the Wrangler they should stuff the 5.0 in any trim for a $2500 option.
How about some of the engines keep has been putting in are not American made. Quality in keep Ram and dodge lately has been questionable
I have asked this on other CZcams videos also, what is the crawl ratio between the two vehicles?
A Jeep wrangler has a ratio of 86:1 for the Rubicon. The Bronco has 98:1 on the 4 cylinder manual transmission. But no one is saying what the 2.7 automatic is. So….
67.8:1
@@AK_Ray another reason the Wrangler is better.
@@scottboyd8892 because it's better crawl ratio?
@@AK_Ray crawling is what a Jeep is known for. A Bronco is for desert running at best. Usually when people talk about the crawl ratio, they refer to the 99:1 with the standard 4 cylinder. Rick crawling is best with a Jeep due to the ratio and strength of the front end.
@@scottboyd8892 so that makes the wrangler better than the bronco, because it's a better rock crawler. All other areas of comparison ignored? By that same logic, the mustang is a better vehicle than the wrangler, because it's faster in the quarter.
Did Ford kill the base model Bronco? I no longer see it on the build page.
Yes Ford killed the base for the 2024 model year but it may come back in a later model year.
@@budguy8829 that’s a bummer, hopefully it comes back.
id rather solid axle swap a Bronco than do a GM v-8 engine swap on a Italian made jeep with a fiat crap engine
Or do a portal axle swap
@@texandy89 yeah after all the money and fab work Portals are the best option especially with the built in gear reduction and unparalleled ground clearance! Great point! that company Weld makes a really nice kit for Tacomas, jeeps and Bronco’s
@@thisdayage7997 I've watched a video on portal axles vs like a total lift and such on two jeep wranglers both 4 doors but one had portal axles the other had like a total lift with different shocks and such the portal axels looked better and both had 40s on them. I haven't seen a Bronco with portal axels but I did see a video where a Bronco had both solid axels front and back. the classic Hummers had portal axles as well even the H1 Hummers too
Ahh Jeep fans, the Honda Civic guys of the off-road world
Enjoy your channel. I have a 2011 Jeep Rubicon & a 2023 Ford Bronco. New Jeeps are completely inferior to anything especially Ford Bronco. There are very few original parts on my Jeep. Quality aftermarket parts is what keeps Jeep alive. My Bronco out performs my Jeep with ease. Dodge, RAM, Jeep, Chrysler are for the most part junk.
Wrangler all day. Been in both, drove both.
The 24 Wrangler has a much better steering setup than previous years. More fun and feels like it’s meant to be off road. The bronco just felt meh…Fit/finish/quality.
Ah ... let's talk price, dude.
They should both be worried about a new 4runner
Do the doors or top come off? Yet another swing and miss from Toyota. The screwed up the FJ, when I heard the Landcruiser was coming back I thought no way they screw twice in a row. Never underestimate someone's ability to screw something up.
In my humble opinion Ford Bronco is still enough and shouldn't be worried about the 2024 Jeep Wrangler updates. However, it isn't as common as Jeep or Toyota only a bunch of overlanding youtubers used Bronco. A good number of aftermarket support will be available in the market for Bronco now. I was hoping to see some Bronco Everglades in the overlanding and CZcams industry, unfortunately that doesn't happen. Bronco full Sasquatch package as well Everglades variants are one of the most capable 4wds right off the box.
the trail turn assist on the bronco seems like a good way to slice a tire
You don’t need the V8 with the v6 power boost. V8 is a gas hog and wsste
No. No it shouldn’t be.
The Bronco is a great overlanding vehicle but they need avoid really hard trails. Personally I like how they look but the interior is too cheap and plastcky for me to consider purchasing one.
And for the 70k + price they both include lots of return visits to the dealer for warranty repairs and recalls ! 😂🤣
I love the Bronco, and in theory it should be a better DD because of the IFS. Unfortunately, I don't think the build quality is there. Even in this video, look at the top, it looks like a poorly fitting aftermarket top (I actually wish they offered this with a steel roof to compete with the 4Runner) and numerous videos have pointed out the poor quality of interior materials. Also, I know a Badlands owner, he showed me runs in the factory paint, and about an hour after that he got stuck in about 8 inches of mud and blew the front diff, I had to drag him backwards up a muddy hill with my 10-year-old, 165k mile 4runner. I still love the idea of the Bronco, it looks amazing, I love that you can get 35s stock, but for challenging off-roading the Wrangler is still the way to go.
Both Ford and Jeep look way better in the two door version. The four door looks awful on both. I would also get the hardtop on either one.
the jeep is a better-looking truck so if everything else is the same i would take the jeep.
Well, for starters, why is it that Ford can’t build a vehicle without a bunch of serious flaws. The Bronco needs $10,000 in upgrades and repairs before you can use it. The Jeep needs nothing, to be better off-road.
Uhhh really?? All of those features and more Steve highlighted are standard factory items. What 10,000.00 upgrades are you referring to?
Jeep is struggling just to keep pace. This is why they gave the 2024 Wrangler a polish, but you can't polish a turd. Okay, you can polish a turd but it's still a turd. The wrangler is planed for a major overhaul of chassis geometry and cabin size increase. Only then will they be able to truly compete with the Bronco, people want larger vehicles that are capable off-road and the Jeep on the inside is simply way too small.
Let me guess you live in a country with few trees and wide open off road trails .
@@rodgoodI bet I live somewhere with way more trees, and the bronco to Jeep ratio is like five to one .
The Bronco is very nice, BUT, ONLY IN A JEEP!!!
They are both so toyish come apart like a Lego ....they are kids vehicles; nobody over 35 should drive either as a daily so many better options out there for less $ that can do the same thing
Nope jeep is 💩