Tim Richmond: Screwed by the system

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  • @jared-lv1tn
    @jared-lv1tn Před rokem +57

    being from ashland ohio, he’s a local legend around here. when i was in high school i drove past his old house on ST RT 60 everyday. pretty cool shit. tim and my uncle ronnie were good friends growing up. now they’re buried right next to each other.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +6

      That's awesome. It's really cool to see the impact he's left on both the sport, and in lower divisions in the sport. But most of all, as your uncle would know first hand, he was an incredible people person off the track as well. Fans, on and off the track, were also really important to him, as well as just regular folk. He was really great to learn about.
      One of my favorite instances of this, is after his wreck in '85 at Riverside, he'd jump out of the car to hang out in the grandstands, even after the track official tried to hold him back. I made sure to include that footage in this video as well. What I wish I did include though, was after his wreck in '81 at Daytona, he'd duck on off toward the infield fence to go hang out with the fans for a bit, even with officials waiting up on him. What a talent.. What a personality. I wonder if we'll ever see someone like him ever again.

    • @roadkingryder6685
      @roadkingryder6685 Před rokem +9

      @@ClumsyCardboard If Nascar had someone today even remotely close to Tim in skill and personality they'd have more fans and I'd definitely start watching again. Doubtful we'll ever see anyone that could come close to him again in this lifetime. He was an extraordinary talent with a boatload of skill and charisma. It was that flamboyant rebel personality that made Nascar shut him down.

    • @patpeterson2671
      @patpeterson2671 Před rokem +1

      @@roadkingryder6685 Kyle Larson , is a super talented driver in any race car he is in ...... racing today is a show and the drivers are showmen / entertainers ...... they are not even close to drivers back in the day ......

    • @roadkingryder6685
      @roadkingryder6685 Před rokem +2

      @@patpeterson2671 I know. It's why I quit watching Napcar in 2010.

    • @orionexplorer
      @orionexplorer Před rokem +4

      @@roadkingryder6685 I have and still do call it NA$CRAP.

  • @Ever443
    @Ever443 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Was a friend of Richmond’s, he had that god given talent that only comes along so often. He was good, very good

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Very true. And very cool that you were close to him. Shame about what transpired, but his legacy continues.

  • @Budweiser8Jr
    @Budweiser8Jr Před rokem +85

    Harry Hyde was not known as "Suitcase" that was "Suitcase Jake" Elder.

    • @DubPaj
      @DubPaj Před rokem +6

      If you're going to put something out there at least get the right

    • @pughoneycutt1986
      @pughoneycutt1986 Před rokem +3

      Took the words right out of my mouth

    • @biggoleredneck1805
      @biggoleredneck1805 Před rokem +4

      Soon as I heard it I stopped watching

    • @roberthill2219
      @roberthill2219 Před rokem

      @@biggoleredneck1805 I hear ya, but there is far worse crap about NASCAR (RIP) on CZcams...

    • @Digger818
      @Digger818 Před rokem

      @@DubPaj easy man, he may have just made a mistake...

  • @Syd-un1xr
    @Syd-un1xr Před rokem +15

    As an avid Earnhardt fan I’ll respectfully have to say Tim Richmond would’ve continued to give Earnhardt a lot of competition had he lived and continued to race Winston Cup. Earnhardt respected his ability to wheel a car and said so in interviews. That kind of respect didn’t come easy from The Intimidator…..Richmond earned it.

  • @obizzil
    @obizzil Před rokem +24

    I can’t believe how loose that car was and he drove the wheels off of it, he was a real talent.

    • @jebediahgentry7029
      @jebediahgentry7029 Před rokem +5

      All of those cars back then drove like that. Almost no downforce compared with today along with bias ply tires. It's fun to watch. On some tracks you can see the right rear tire smoking in the turns because they're leaning on it so hard. In car cameras are fun to watch also. They look like they're sawing wood driving those things

    • @obizzil
      @obizzil Před rokem +2

      @@jebediahgentry7029 right on! Thats my favorite body style in NASCAR you had to really know how to drive back then and to see him and dale battle on a road course is the best

  • @ensignstephens6307
    @ensignstephens6307 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Tim Richmond was a rare talent. I think often how racing would look with him Davey , Allen K and all the others that left way too soon.

  • @SAVikingSA
    @SAVikingSA Před rokem +12

    There will never be another thing as beautiful in auto racing as Richmond was in the esses at Riverside. If you've never seen him race, go watch. It was the clearest indication of a driver being on a different level that you'll ever see.

  • @uttermanbo
    @uttermanbo Před 8 měsíci +5

    One of the biggest what ifs in Nascar history. He had major crossover appeal. Jeff Gordon was probably the biggest star outside of Dale Earnhardt, but even he didn't have the charisma of Richmond.
    Today he woukd have been a multiple time champion, and probably been in many commercials, shows, and possibly a movie or so.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 8 měsíci

      No doubt. I’m glad there’s at least a documentary about him, but he’d be worthy of his own feature film.

  • @barryfunke8165
    @barryfunke8165 Před rokem +12

    Tim was the man! Loved watching him race.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      Can only imagine what it must've been like to see it back in the day.. It's already incredible enough just from archive footage!

  • @bowmanmilner8137
    @bowmanmilner8137 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I loved watching Tim Richmond driving on the road courses at Riverside and Watkins Glen.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 5 měsíci

      That must've been incredible to see in person. Did he make it look as easy in person as he did on TV?

  • @brocksisson9550
    @brocksisson9550 Před rokem +22

    He should be in the Nascar Hall Of Fame

    • @davidhenderson594
      @davidhenderson594 Před rokem +6

      He should be in the hall, but Nascar will never let that happen. Tim was a partier and lived life to the fullest, but he was a great driver.

    • @brocksisson9550
      @brocksisson9550 Před rokem +2

      @@davidhenderson594 Sr. partied too

    • @davidhenderson594
      @davidhenderson594 Před rokem +5

      A lot of drivers partied, but a lot of them were scared too. They partied with Tim and were afraid that they might have been exposed to the hiv virus also. Bill Elliott talked about it, years ago.

    • @ralphwilliams2396
      @ralphwilliams2396 Před rokem +1

      Agreed

    • @Syd-un1xr
      @Syd-un1xr Před rokem +1

      His NASCAR career wasn’t long enough for him to be in the HOF.

  • @michaelrumfelt3106
    @michaelrumfelt3106 Před rokem +17

    Tim's story is why I don't believe Mayfield really used or did what they say

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      Same here. Exact same sentiment

    • @travisfisher2877
      @travisfisher2877 Před rokem +3

      You can listen to mayfields story on dale jrs podcast out of his own mouth. That’s if you haven’t already lol.

    • @Shoreline71
      @Shoreline71 Před rokem +1

      I’m 50/50 on mayfield….meaning I don’t think everything negative that happened to him in those couple years was all conspiracy and collusion to set him up with all that…dope, failed tests, step mom, stolen shit, and prolly forgetting more. I also don’t think he was up nights sucking on a pipe tweaking.

  • @wolfeman9791
    @wolfeman9791 Před rokem +10

    Absolute shame Tim Richmond Was one of the best nascar drivers of all time. And it's just a shame he didn't get a chance to do it for years I'm sure he would have won multiple championships.

  • @LesMorrisracing
    @LesMorrisracing Před rokem +6

    Tim was an inspiration at that time. So cool watching him. We don't have drivers now a days like him

  • @gregorygolden1296
    @gregorygolden1296 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Tim passed away in the hospital I was born in. GOD BLESS TIM & DALE. TWO of best there ever was.

  • @rickharvell8185
    @rickharvell8185 Před rokem +6

    Was a hell of a wheel man
    I was there at Darlington in 86
    When he took the southern 500

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      What a race that must've been to see. Very cool!

    • @funboy7754
      @funboy7754 Před 3 měsíci

      mee also bill hit the wall 9 laps to go.

  • @jobethgraves7338
    @jobethgraves7338 Před rokem +4

    I loved Tim Richmond!!!

  • @jebediahgentry7029
    @jebediahgentry7029 Před rokem +23

    NASCAR ought to be ashamed how they treated Tim Richmond.

    • @josephgibbons1631
      @josephgibbons1631 Před rokem +6

      The 30 for 30 done by ESPN is an outstanding portrayal of Tim’s life, family, personal challenges and death. Tim knew he had what he had…sadly he would have survived if that all happened 10 years later.

  • @Aaron-uf2is
    @Aaron-uf2is Před rokem +7

    Being from Mansfield (a short drive from Ashland) I take great pride that Tim was one of us. Ohio born and bred

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Looking at the blaney's, i think your state produces some real talent alongside Tim here.. And some cool racetracks. Toledo Speedway looks pretty legit.

  • @badad0166
    @badad0166 Před rokem +13

    Bias Ply was the best show. They could kick out sideways and still be caught. Earnhardt and Richmond sideways on bias ply tires is some of the best you could ever see. Nascar should look into bringing back bias ply tires, at least on some of the short tracks. I know radials are "better" and "safer" but even Tim Richmond couldn't have carried a smoking radial sideways down the backstretch like he did with bias ply.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      I agree, it was probably the single most entertaining era of the sport in general, but I think if Tim were around today, he’d still be slinging it sideways on radials. He pushed absolutely everything past where it should’ve been! Plus, he’d probably be doing rallycross or something extra to really get his motor running during the off-season or after retirement.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před rokem +2

      It is the newer Radials suck from Gen 6 onward, it is the older Radials that worked from the 2000's the problem is Goodyear makes a tire that never wears down until it fully fails, like they maintain pressure as it is wearing down so drivers can't tell the tire is wearing out due to how hard they make it, that with the newest car is a deadly combo. The vehicles of the era do look like cars from the time, so they are better then most now that do not look like any car on the road currently or since 2000.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard I was thinking that he would be racing in the Pinty series or ARCA after retiring from Cup.

  • @mattvw1991
    @mattvw1991 Před rokem +9

    Tim was the NASCAR version of James Hunt

  • @joshthemediocre7824
    @joshthemediocre7824 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I visit the cemetery where Tim is buried quite a bit in the summer months, i see his headstone more than just about anyone i'd say, i only say that bc it often reminds me to live life to the fullest, like Tim did. He was the real life Cole Trickle.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 3 měsíci

      He really was. Truly an inspiration for similar reasons for me personally as well. Making the most of life is a very good sentiment to take away from all this

  • @chicnwing4519
    @chicnwing4519 Před rokem +2

    Tim is reason I started watching Nascar

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      That’s awesome. Wish I saw that era myself. Any particular memories?

    • @chicnwing4519
      @chicnwing4519 Před rokem +2

      @@ClumsyCardboard tim helping Dale down the track after they crashed

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      @@chicnwing4519 That is pretty special.. Showed the mutual respect they had, and, indeed the type of guy Tim was.

  • @itzfedora_yt4577
    @itzfedora_yt4577 Před rokem +5

    He was a great driver. Shame he got sick

  • @jimday3112
    @jimday3112 Před rokem +8

    It was 'Suitcase Jake' Elder not Harry 'Suitcase' Hyde.
    Tim was one hell of a wheel man. Probably would have won at least one championship.

  • @Caterpillarjon
    @Caterpillarjon Před rokem +5

    That Old Milwaukee commercial gave me the shits!

  • @edwardkesock216
    @edwardkesock216 Před rokem +3

    I remember this I remember all this with Tim Richmond what a shame he went through this

  • @bobbyhall7472
    @bobbyhall7472 Před rokem +1

    Those old funny car paint jobs were badass!! Also, that Folgers-sponsored car was straight pimpin!🚀🚀🏁🏁

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      Definitely iconic. It contrasts so well

    • @bobbyhall7472
      @bobbyhall7472 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard those body style cars from the ’80s was in my opinion the best looking out of all the different year's. They just looked fast sitting still🏁

  • @jefferyrobertson7520
    @jefferyrobertson7520 Před rokem +4

    Tim Richmond Was So Amazing IndyCar Driver From The 80s

  • @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925

    Richmond would've been Gordon's mentor

  • @Ezisnotaman
    @Ezisnotaman Před rokem +20

    Had Richmond not passed, Earnhardt would not have had 7 championships..

    • @Fatboyee
      @Fatboyee Před rokem

      He would have had 9

    • @paulday5722
      @paulday5722 Před rokem

      Add in Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki. Dale Sr. admitted in an interview that those 3 drivers dying, way too young, was a huge benefit to his success. They would all have had Hall-of-Fame careers.

    • @Ezisnotaman
      @Ezisnotaman Před rokem

      @@paulday5722 Yes, sir!

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 Před rokem +2

    Gena Lookabill Greene & Debbie Putman: Screwing by Tim Richmond.

  • @jennifersman7990
    @jennifersman7990 Před rokem +2

    I didn’t know much about him but it looks like he was the only driver who gave Dale Sr. some competition. If he’d lived we could’ve seen a rivalry like Petty & Pearson back in the 70’s

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      I feel the same. Behind closed doors, Dale and Tim were basically great friends. No doubt gave advice on track approach’s. Tim was just a showman for the cameras, couldn’t help himself. Ironically, Dale act similarly at least a decade later.

  • @zerobasedgod9291
    @zerobasedgod9291 Před rokem +3

    new ClumsyCardboard just dropped 🔥

  • @mollyflogin
    @mollyflogin Před rokem +2

    He knew he had it........

  • @flflash4717
    @flflash4717 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Nice piece on Tim Richmond. You did confuse a nickname however, Jake Elder was known as "Suitcase Jake" not Harry Hyde.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah, I got the two confused. Both legends that I crossed wires on, so to speak. Glad you enjoyed!

  • @collinlindsay1853
    @collinlindsay1853 Před rokem +2

    awesome loved him up here in michigan

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Ever get the chance to meet him? So many great fan stories about him!

  • @SpencerWatches
    @SpencerWatches Před rokem +2

    Subbed, keep up the good work!

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Thanks spence! You the man. More to come, so stay tuned!

  • @snoman003
    @snoman003 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this. There was always some question I had on this.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      My pleasure! Thanks for enjoying, hopefully it answered your questions!

  • @emsguy486
    @emsguy486 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Three people that nascar has really screwed over the years: Tim Richmond, Jeremy Mayfield, and to a much lesser extent Carl Edwards.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 11 měsíci

      Carl deserves a video on his own, but I will be looking into the Mayfield story soon. Deserves coverage.

  • @rzeric
    @rzeric Před 6 měsíci +1

    Boy that footage from riverside is crazy fast such a shame what drugs can do to a person that guy was an unbelievable driver

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 6 měsíci +1

      It certainly was one of the best runs at that track ever. Hell of a send off for it. But, whilst he lived in Florida for a long while, it was not drugs that ruined him. That was a false diagnosis from a very faulty doctor, who no doubt ruined NFL careers before he worked for NASCAR. Even big bill knew he messed up hiring him.

    • @rzeric
      @rzeric Před 6 měsíci

      he died of aids from sex with many women drugs only he knows but i wouldnt be shocked...left a trail of 30 infected they say. its public record. i dont blame the doc sorry. @@ClumsyCardboard

  • @trevhawe
    @trevhawe Před rokem +2

    Nicely done.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      Thank you! Admittedly, there are some errors, but on the whole, i'm batting a thousand. Glad you enjoyed!

    • @trevhawe
      @trevhawe Před rokem +1

      So can we look forward to more?

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      @@trevhawe Absolutely! You can check my community page as to the hint for what the next one is gonna be about. Also just released something yesterday

    • @trevhawe
      @trevhawe Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard Gonna be fun to do the Irace thing looking forward to that Ha.
      Gnite

  • @Pensfan5919
    @Pensfan5919 Před rokem +13

    Ohio's pride in NASCAR, long before the Blaneys or Kaulig Racing. And even better, Timmy was from northeast Ohio instead of the heavily Pittsburgh-polluted Youngstown area.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +3

      Such a personality.. Speaking of the blaney's, and getting screwed by the system, NASCAR still owes Ryan that 2 million!

    • @davidrice3337
      @davidrice3337 Před rokem

      What upset me about Tim Richmond is the fact he knowingly infected several women even though he knew he had HIV - that's bullshit - I can't imagine if this would have been my daughter or sister - I would probably go after anyone who said anything positive - just sayin .....

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard That Ryan will never get, I hope in the next TV Deal he becomes an announcer for a TV channel and he accepts the contract then the channel says take the deal or you do not get to put NASCAR on TV as nobody else wants to do it, say NBC is the one taking over the sport with USA hosting the second half of the season to make room for NFL Football and hockey preseson during the dumb playoff the way it is currently done.

    • @saddletramp6935
      @saddletramp6935 Před rokem +2

      Just so you know pensfan, i was watching Lou Blaney back in the 60s, he was effn good and Dave's brother was a good sprint car driver too, not mention a great basketball player. You can look it up which you obviously didn't bother to do.

  • @craigkemmerzell5741
    @craigkemmerzell5741 Před rokem +2

    Great driver

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      And commentator too! Didn’t mention it here, but there’s also great footage of his in-car “play by play” coverage.

  • @robthornton9129
    @robthornton9129 Před rokem +3

    I think NASCAR did the same thing to Jeremy Mayfield

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      I believe much of the same.. Unsurprisingly in particular, given the CEO of NASCAR was on meth at the time.

  • @ridgerunnerperformance-jas5418

    Man do your research Suitcase Jake Elder was not in Harry league.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      Good point, got him confused with Jake Elder. My apologies on that one. Another great crew chief, but not the same guy.

    • @stewpuddy4161
      @stewpuddy4161 Před rokem +1

      I noticed it too. But a simple mistake. Great video man.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      @@stewpuddy4161 Thanks man! I'll try not to let Freudian slips dictate the scripts so much next time haha

    • @stewpuddy4161
      @stewpuddy4161 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard don't let the nitpicking get you down. I subscribed!

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      @@stewpuddy4161 It may be nitpicking but hey, it's valuable feedback all the same. Thanks for the sub! Working on something right now, and some follow ups, So hope you stay awhile!

  • @user-fu1ss4eo6c
    @user-fu1ss4eo6c Před měsícem +1

    I really appreciate the fact that Earnhardt stood up for Tim back in those closed minded days.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před měsícem

      @@user-fu1ss4eo6c They were great friends since at least ‘82. Dale knew what was actually wrong with Tim, but there was only so much he could do for him.

  • @bobdurnell7729
    @bobdurnell7729 Před rokem +7

    Look, I was a big Tim Richmond fan and enjoyed the hell out of his driving, but I long ago grew weary of all these people going boo hoo hoo over Tim not being allowed to race by NASCAR. Did NASCAR make a cluster foxtrot out of the whole thing? No question, but it was Tim that never came clean about his illness or what the actual situation was.. Tim's behavior was pretty erratic in the BEST of times, and after he went back to driving in the summer of 1987, it only got worse. His behavior at the August Michigan race made it clear to everyone that there was a real problem and Tim did NOTHING to clear the air or ease anyone's concerns. The whole circus that took place in Daytona in 1988 was as much Tim's fault as it was NASCAR's. As for the Hall of Fame, REALLY? Since when does potential get you into a Hall of Fame? The guy had 13 wins total and half of those came in one half of one season, and he never even sniffed a championship trophy. I could probably sit down and name 30 guys who had less natural ability than Tim, but got more out of it over the long haul. Had he lived, who knows how much success he could have had, but he didn't, and the reason why was Tim's and Tim's alone. Let's put a stop to all the sugar coating and revisionist history and just accept Tim's life and career for what it wasn't as well as what it was.

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a Před rokem

      Says the Arm Chair Nascar fan.....

    • @richardhertz8996
      @richardhertz8996 Před rokem

      Ok, name ONE thing I said that was inaccurate. Some people just have a problem accepting facts instead of fantasy.

  • @scottrobinson9752
    @scottrobinson9752 Před 25 dny

    People like Tim never last. His kind of behavior is a sign of insecurity. People like Tim never have known consequences for failure. There always seemed to be a safety net to catch him and propel him into the next opportunity.
    People like that have a fear of success. They will get right up next to it, flirt with it, prove that they are talented, makes waves briefly...and then fade away. They might do this many, many times over.
    I used to be in a band with a guitar player/song writer. It was his band. He formed it, wrote most of the songs, produced the recordings, decided artistic direction, the stage look...the whole nine yards. He was brilliant, and massively talented. We built a solid following across the midwest.
    We played numerous showcases for major record labels. We had a publishing and production deal with a fairly big time manager. Every time we got close to signing the dotted line, he would scrap the project, change the sound of the band a little bit...put off the record companies, spend forever recording new material....and jump through all the same hoops again. He would still get us right up to the point of getting a big record deal...again...and sabotage the whole thing again. We could have been very successful, and he would have been very famous...but he would screw it up, right at the 11th hour, every single time.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 24 dny

      Whilst I'm sorry to hear you got messed around by him like that, I don't believe this is a apt summary in my opinion. How do you define success? Because that's not how he approached it.
      He put his ALL into everything, and didn't back down.. In fact, it was to the point that folks like Tim brewer (Just some guy, you know, only won championships with Cale Yarborough and Darrel Waltrip.. No big deal, nobody special obviously..) was annoyed with him NOT backing down enough. He gave it his all, not out of a need to create a justification to walk away from a purposefully wrecked car, but because he was an immense talented man who sometimes just didn't know the limits of a car. That's all.
      He was the winningest driver of 1986 for christs sake. That's from not just sheer tenacity, but good preparation too. And great feel.
      But above all? He wanted to prove one thing. As he says it best, "I wanted to prove to everyone that I was put on this earth to have fun.. I want to succeed at the fun department." And he did. Very much did. And his definition of fun is more than just being great in a stock car, but also just taking part in the periphery of racing in general. Including exhibition races for local short tracks. (Plenty of footage out there for stuff like that, do encourage you peep it out).

    • @scottrobinson9752
      @scottrobinson9752 Před 24 dny

      @@ClumsyCardboard .... Never said he didn't have success. My point was that guys like him can rise to great peaks, but they never sustain. Some of his earlier successes and opportunities, came from family wealth. Had it been strictly up to him, he wouldn't have had the same opportunities. He was propelled a certain distance, through the family bank account. That doesn't diminish his obvious talent, its just a fact.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 24 dny

      @@scottrobinson9752 Ok? So his parents had money. Yes, But that was used to fund his early developing talents. Daddy's credit card didn't buy him a ride at Hendrick. Hell, I'm certain it didn't get him a spot at D.K Ulrich's operation, and he could've used the cash no doubt. And J.D Stacy already had his ill gotten gains funding his operation, so Tim's dad's money would've been no good to him.
      And even then, He had the chops to make it on merit and merit alone. If he had to work for the dough, he would've done so to pay up for that Sprint car ride.
      And about sustaining.. Did you forget the fact Tim died? 1987 would've been a real contention, if not championship victory outright. If not then, '88.
      Buddy holly didn't set the world on fire in the 1960s because he died in a plane crash in '59. Otherwise he would've no doubt succeeded and sustained.
      Sterling marlin didn't sustain after his 2002 cup title bout because of personal ailments. Otherwise that would've been his trophy.
      Again, it's about perspective.

  • @FredF-if4wq
    @FredF-if4wq Před 5 měsíci +1

    Way way better then Dale. RIP you're both legends

  • @willpgarrett2940
    @willpgarrett2940 Před rokem +1

    Interesting take on Richmond, but learned a couple things about him.

  • @roadkingryder6685
    @roadkingryder6685 Před rokem +4

    While Harry Hyde was Tim's Crew Chief it was "Suitcase" Jake Elder that moved from team to team. Not Harry Suitcase Hyde. Just stating the Facts. Had Tim lived Earnhardt would've never won 7 Championships, and that is a fact!

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      Haha. Big ups man! And yeah, he’d have nabbed at least one champ from him.

    • @daringuess79
      @daringuess79 Před rokem +2

      I knew that wasn’t right

    • @daringuess79
      @daringuess79 Před rokem +2

      Or Elliot wouldn’t have even won one championship Gordon might not have one 4 I think if Davey and Tim would’ve lived Earnhardt definitely wouldn’t have won 7

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      @@daringuess79 it’s a toss up, but I think ‘88 or ‘89 would’ve been tim’s second championship. If not both. But we can only speculate now

  • @mizatthekizat8894
    @mizatthekizat8894 Před rokem +3

    Carl edwards would be a good video too. He lost track position at homestead in 2011 because of rain after leading. 2016 Getting crashed out by lagano and losing the championship because of it. I really think he was a wheel man. I think tony started getting better equipment as the chase went on and he struggled most of the season

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      There's an idea! I'll think on that. Glad you enjoyed this one!

  • @HottRoddTodd
    @HottRoddTodd Před rokem +19

    If Tim Richmond had not died, Dale Earnhardt wouldn’t have won 7 championships. Tim Richmond was probably the best drive to ever get in a stock car.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      Absolutely one of the best to wheel a stock car, that's for sure. I think had things gone his way, '88 might've been his champ year.

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly Před rokem +8

      You could make the same point and replace Richmond's name with Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison, or Rob Moroso.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +4

      @@EclecticHillbilly Rob would've been what jeff gordon became. Davey was due to take the sport by storm as well, and Alan would've mustered at least one more championship. I think by his own admission he wanted to get outta the sport by the late 90s, mostly citing costs.

    • @jlminks9800
      @jlminks9800 Před rokem +6

      Don't forget that Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki died, too, and that would probably have made a difference in Earnhardt's seven as well

    • @damnmarkey
      @damnmarkey Před rokem +3

      I feel the same way with Davey Allison

  • @gregorygolden1296
    @gregorygolden1296 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Suite Case Jake my friend.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 6 měsíci

      10-4, I was thinking of yet another crew chief legend. I've made the corrections accordingly in the description for newer viewers. Good ear though!

  • @jackstahlbush
    @jackstahlbush Před rokem +1

    THE WHOLE "DAYS OF THUNDER" MOVIE IS TIM RICHMOND I THINK = I MET HIM DURING A RAIN DELAY AT DAYTONA = GREAT PERSON

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Very true! Hendrick even made the cars for the film. That’s awesome that you got to meet him. Hopefully he shared a beer!

    • @jackstahlbush
      @jackstahlbush Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard I HAVE SAID ON OTHER SITES I WAS AT PHOENIX WHEN THEY WERE FILMING SEEING GREG SACS / TOMMY ELIS OTHERS /THE WEIRD FILM CARS WITH MANY CAMERAS HANGING ALL OVER THEM = MORE MEM"S

  • @timmypilkerton2835
    @timmypilkerton2835 Před rokem +1

    I was really young maybe 8-10 yrs. old but both my parents were big nascar fans and me and the old man pulled for any Ford but mom was a Tim Richmond fan and now being older I relize she probably liked him because all the chicks did but he actually called our house and spoke to my mom. I answered the phone and said hey mom It’s Tim Richmond. She’s like yea right. But soon realized it was him. Evidently he called a lot of his fan club personally. At least that’s what she told the ol man. LMAO

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      I could see it. He was big about fan support!

    • @timmypilkerton2835
      @timmypilkerton2835 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard I have heard that. Mom met him at Richmond earlier that year. But she says to this day he remembered her and that my folks actually sat there and B.S. a bit with him . I know it was a little different time back then but he was still a big deal I mean at least in our world. But she still talks about it to this day. I have old pics of my ol man and my uncles drinking a beer with Person at Daytona in the late 70s. Not sure if Person actually was drinking but he sure was in there pit area having a good time. Man that must have been cool as shit

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      @@timmypilkerton2835 See, those were the real personalities of sport. Pearson being another great example.. You don't see that anymore.

    • @timmypilkerton2835
      @timmypilkerton2835 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard no you don’t. I’m not a fan of certain drivers but I keep preaching we NEED Joey andKFB and Tony Stewart too say and do the shit that keeps this sport interesting.

  • @traviscates3740
    @traviscates3740 Před rokem +2

    You’re thinking of “Suitcase Jake” Jake Elder.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      Correct. A bit of a fruedian slip there. My apologies.

  • @timdavis5078
    @timdavis5078 Před rokem +5

    Hey enjoy watching the video but a couple things off one was it wasn’t hairy suitcase hyd hairy was a long time crew chief of Rick Hendricks hairy was the one who helped Rick Hendricks start up Hendricks motorsports and the Tom Cruise movie days of thunder was basic on Hendricks and hairy hyd but suitcase was the nick name of jack elders suitcase jack

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Yeah, I missed the mark on that one, good ear. Honest mistake. But I’m glad you enjoyed!

    • @stansmad
      @stansmad Před rokem +3

      "Suitcase JAKE Elder"

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      @@stansmad Correct.

  • @brandonenglund7516
    @brandonenglund7516 Před rokem +11

    Lost me at “Robby Gordon types” 😂

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +4

      Not everyone was a fan of robby to be sure, but hey. Say what you will, it's a prime example of raw talent in the sport. Even Tony stewart agrees as much!

    • @bryonkidder6199
      @bryonkidder6199 Před rokem +3

      @@ClumsyCardboard Tony Stewart wishes he had the driving talent of Robbie Gordon...lol

    • @thsbulldawg82
      @thsbulldawg82 Před rokem

      ​@@bryonkidder6199 doubt Stewart would want to go backwards in driving talent.

  • @jchayes7325
    @jchayes7325 Před rokem +4

    Far as I'm concerned I am a very big Tim Richmond fan always have been always will be I wish Tim would still be alive because the Intimidator would not be a seven-time champion if he was still alive and racing Tim was a master at my home track Riverside International Raceway I have never seen anyone go around Riverside like Tim. I met him at Riverside International Raceway when he was driving the old Milwaukee car ask him for his autograph he said no problem gave me his autograph and I still have that autograph to this day and very proud to have that autograph he will always be one of my top 10 drivers of all time there are very few drivers out there that treat the fans like they should be treated Tim was definitely one that did that I will always have total respect for Tim and anybody says any crap about him they're going to have to go through me that's how big of a Tim Richmond fan I am he was the only man to be able to intimidate the Intimidator there will never ever be a better driver than Tim Richmond no matter who or what or anything else anybody says I was there when he won his last race at Riverside International Raceway I have his Folgers car as a diecast and I also have his old Milwaukee Pontiac as a diecast and they are very proudly in my collection I will be making the JD Stacy card that he drove and I even made the number 21 Uno IndyCar that he drove in 1980 that just tells you how big of a Tim Richmond saying I am thank you for posting this and I did appreciate it have a good day and God bless

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      That’s awesome! And yeah, that was one of the biggest things about his personality.. he really cared about his fans. He knew it’s what both drove the sport and his career. A raw talent that was just great to be around. I have no doubt he’d at least landed one or two championships, especially with hendrick equipment. Just incredible, and a unique combination and character.

    • @jchayes7325
      @jchayes7325 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard that will always be why that Tim Richmond is one of my all-time favorite drivers my top 10 of NASCAR drivers does not have the intimidator in it I'm not a fan of his never have been never will be he wrecked too many cars back in his day and the dumbest thing ever to happen was the show called pass in the grass

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      @@jchayes7325 That was one of the big differences between them In my opinion, Earnhardt would find the limits of his bumper and other cars fenders in the race, and Tim would find the limits of the motor and the tires before anything else haha

    • @mrpoizun
      @mrpoizun Před rokem +3

      Jesus! Ever hear of a sentence???

    • @justinwilliford7151
      @justinwilliford7151 Před rokem +2

      Tim just wasn't as dedicated to racing. he liked to party more.

  • @slamminsammylickit
    @slamminsammylickit Před rokem +2

    NASCAR did screw him hard! But look now they are getting there's! A big ol'sinking ship!

    • @firestarter105G
      @firestarter105G Před rokem

      Yes as a result of A kissing their diversity driver that has no talent.

  • @jimhigbee2672
    @jimhigbee2672 Před rokem +2

    Harry Hyde was not suitcase. Suitcase Jake Elder had that moniker as a crew chief. Get your facts from old guys from the sport like me. Jim53
    12:53

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      My mistake. I happened to actually watch a documentary on him about a week prior, so some classic fruedian slippage goin on there. Good catch!

  • @MatthewLewisAtlanta
    @MatthewLewisAtlanta Před 10 měsíci +1

    You're confusing Harry Hyde with "Suitcase" Jake Elder. And Tim wasn't "replaced" in the 1988 Daytona 500. Schrader signed with the team in 1987 after Tim had quit due to his health. Tim was going to drive Ken Ragan"s #77 Ford in the Busch Clash and Daytona 500 if he was cleared by NASCAR in 1988.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 10 měsíci

      That I did. Big slip there. How you enjoyed the rest despite that!

    • @MatthewLewisAtlanta
      @MatthewLewisAtlanta Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard Excellent work sir & thank you for sharing and creating it!

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@MatthewLewisAtlanta Really glad to hear! It really is a genuinely unfortunate story. But, we can’t recall it as a tragedy. He made the absolute most of it, even if it didn’t have to be so short. And good point, “replaced” was the wrong word on my part there.

  • @LeopardGeckoFry
    @LeopardGeckoFry Před rokem +2

    My dad painted both of his Indy cars

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      There has been some damn good indycar paint schemes, but his were pretty awesome. Your father did a great job

  • @adampatterson5475
    @adampatterson5475 Před rokem +4

    He is who Cole trickle was based on

    • @damnmarkey
      @damnmarkey Před rokem +1

      I thought it was Rowdy since he the one feel ill after the wreck

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +2

      @@damnmarkey Good question! But yes, Adam is correct. Cole's background, and personality, was loosely based on Tim Richmond.

  • @alvinwagner6085
    @alvinwagner6085 Před 9 měsíci +2

    If he raced after he knew he had AIDS, then he put every track emergency personnel and doctors at high risk. Not really a hero in my eyes.

  • @Davehash
    @Davehash Před rokem +1

    He looked like Lieutenant Dangel.

  • @cajentertainment2516
    @cajentertainment2516 Před rokem +2

    You got one thing badly wrong....harry hyde abd suitcase Jake Elder are way different people

  • @pf6797
    @pf6797 Před rokem +2

    They never show that 30/30 on espn anymore

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately, yes that’s true. Haven’t for some time. You’d have to dig around for it online or just get a dvd copy of it.

    • @pf6797
      @pf6797 Před rokem +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard I’ve got the OG box set

    • @GuTOHGT
      @GuTOHGT Před 22 dny

      Its on disney+ app. Tommy Morrison too

  • @orionexplorer
    @orionexplorer Před rokem +3

    I remember Tim Richmond racing in Indy Cars and then into NASCAR. There is a video on CZcams, or at least used to be, of Tim being interviewed for TV and just walked away from the interview to chase down a hot looking girl. That was Tim's problem, he was a womanizer, had a penthouse in New York City, and generally rubbed NASCAR wrong. Tim because he was a northern boy, and they didn't really like it in those days if they came from anywhere outside of the south.

    • @jennifersman7990
      @jennifersman7990 Před rokem +2

      Jeff Foxworthy said it best;
      “The reason NASCAR fans hate Jeff Gordon isn’t because he’s not from the south, it’s because he enunciates”

    • @orionexplorer
      @orionexplorer Před rokem

      @@jennifersman7990 ROFLMAO

  • @EclecticHillbilly
    @EclecticHillbilly Před rokem +5

    If anything, Richmond did it to himself. He had the world by the tail but he couldn't or wouldn't stay focused on what he needed to do.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +3

      All work and no play makes you dull, and ironically, defocused as well. There is a balance. Let's not jump to conclusions.

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a Před rokem

      If Tim was to do what you think he should have done, then he would never get to where he was.

  • @willpgarrett2940
    @willpgarrett2940 Před rokem +2

    Easy, easy, easy Big Fella. He ain't the epitome of the 80s NASCAR. He was an outlier, not the Dude. 43 still reigned in the early 80s.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +1

      What I meant was in terms of personality.. He fit the mould of a 1980s hollywood type. I didn't mean he fully represent the sport in the 1980s. You're bang about the the 43. He was called the king for a reason, after all.

  • @finntjomstol9364
    @finntjomstol9364 Před rokem +2

    I am so happy that he wasn’t actually on drugs.
    I so get why he didn’t trust nascar they screwed him

  • @funboy7754
    @funboy7754 Před 3 měsíci +1

    dw hated richmond because he knew how good tim was

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 3 měsíci

      DW, especially in recent years, came to appreciate the new fan base Tim brought into the sport.

  • @bobbyhall7472
    @bobbyhall7472 Před rokem +2

    Just like Mayfield hmm sounds like NASCAR was trying to blackball TR!?

  • @phelpsmarc
    @phelpsmarc Před 3 měsíci

    The announcer is using passages from Tim's autobiograpy word for word

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 3 měsíci

      I didn’t even realize there was a autobiography, let alone read it. Do you know where I could buy a copy?

    • @phelpsmarc
      @phelpsmarc Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard Im sorry I meant biography - The book by David Poole. It was a really awesome and quick read.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 3 měsíci

      @@phelpsmarc No problem! I’ll have a look and get a copy. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @zachill
    @zachill Před rokem +1

    I’m late but you’re actually incorrect, the Tim Richmond from ARCA is related to the Tim Richmond who ran Cup. Dave (Tim from ARCA’s dad) is related to Tim.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      In that case, the future is even brighter than imagined.

  • @rkr7372
    @rkr7372 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You have to wonder w/hiv having on average a 10 year incubation period & his lifestyle how many others could be infected.

  • @Big_T51
    @Big_T51 Před rokem +1

    Robbie Gordon talented driver said it all….no need to watch past 10 seconds

  • @Mjones8383
    @Mjones8383 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Well he did continually lie about his health and Nascar had to protect its sport. Theres no way they could let a driver in his health out there in case something were to happen

    • @wayne5447
      @wayne5447 Před 7 měsíci

      If you look at NASCAR today, they have not done a very good job of "protecting its sport"!

  • @jimraiti5084
    @jimraiti5084 Před rokem +1

    The. Sprint car 98 was sold to tim. The first race was at Mercer race track. Mercer pa. Western pa. My d
    Ad a
    And I owned that car. Jim raiti

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      Small world! Sucks to hear he broke the axle on it, though.

    • @jimraiti5084
      @jimraiti5084 Před rokem +2

      @@ClumsyCardboard I have a pic of Tim and I when he bought the car yet. I did talk to Harry hide. Tim Rick all at one time. For a road course in New York about set up. 1st time. Nascar ran a road course tim won. So must have been close. Jim raiti

  • @ensignstephens6307
    @ensignstephens6307 Před 10 měsíci

    I've been watching racing my whole life and the only name I've ever heard is suitcase Jake Elder never have I ever heard Suitcase Harry Hyde.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Big slip on my part. I got the nicknames of two crew chiefs confused.

    • @ensignstephens6307
      @ensignstephens6307 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard Good story I miss actual stock car racing.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 10 měsíci

      @@ensignstephens6307 Glad you enjoyed! I think about those days an awful lot myself. I just wanted to provide better context to his history.
      You mentioned Alan kulwicki, and that is also a very sad tale. He'd probably still be one of the most successful car owners to this day, even if he retired from racing. But I recall in an interview that he planned to leave the sport by 2003 anyways. Prophetic, given what changes to the sport were brought in at that time.

    • @ensignstephens6307
      @ensignstephens6307 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard Being from Martinsville I've seen a lot of great short track racing back to the modifides with and a lot of locals like Ronnie Thomas and Bugs Stephens Joe Henry Thurman Paul Radford I used to park car's on race day for the local fire department before everything went corporate.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 10 měsíci

      @@ensignstephens6307 Modified drivers, the best in the busniess. Ronnie I also know of, became rookie of the year i believe in '78.

  • @johnlee7582
    @johnlee7582 Před rokem +2

    Back then they didn't really have no way to tell how you got it it was just when you got it you knew it cast Stars age as far as AIDS goes you take that out of out of the picture altogether and if you can't say that he was a trendsetter you're sadly wrong

  • @TheCpage66
    @TheCpage66 Před rokem +1

    I worked with one of his victims in Charlotte.

  • @haroldkellermier5502
    @haroldkellermier5502 Před rokem +2

    For someone that died from HIV (RIP Tim) The title of this video for myself is a bit obnoxious. Not being disrespectful just think a better choice of words would have been appropriate.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem +4

      It's in reference to the way the sanctioning body had treated him, and tried to sweep the whole deal under the rug. Nonetheless, maybe i coudl've reworded it a tad better.

  • @michaelzimmer4475
    @michaelzimmer4475 Před 6 měsíci +1

    NASCAR wanted Earnhardt not Richmond

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 6 měsíci

      I don’t personally think quite that deep. As the saying goes, don’t confuse stupidity for malice.
      But he definelty did ruffle a few feathers too!

  • @calvinlamb8512
    @calvinlamb8512 Před 5 měsíci

    Imagine your dad buying you a Indy car 😂

  • @Nebula_Ultra
    @Nebula_Ultra Před 2 měsíci

    He was also screwed by some guys. Apparently.

  • @paulday5722
    @paulday5722 Před rokem +1

    Wait, wait, wait, wait. For his 16th birthday he was given a sports car, speedboat, AND private airplane??!!! Who in the hell does that? Plus his family funded his racing career, out-of-pocket, until he moved to NASCAR. It's a damn shame he died so young but I can't feel any sympathy for the spoiled rich kid. NASCAR pulling his hard card was probably the first time in his life he heard the word "no".

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      He may have been a rich kid, but he raced his way upward on merit. He wasn’t a pay driver at hendrick, or even blue max. And lest we forget the complete GARBAGE he raced with, and even won with, on the cup schedule and even before it. I understand to a fault why you feel that way about him, but I feel it’s a bit obtuse. If logano died tomorrow I’d still feel nothing but sympathy. Morality on that doesn’t change for me.

    • @paulday5722
      @paulday5722 Před rokem

      @@ClumsyCardboard He definitely had great natural driving talent and earned every win fair and square. I consider myself lucky to have seen him race in his prime, especially wheel to wheel with Dale Sr. I don't feel bad for him for two reasons. First, he knew he was dying of a terminal disease but instead of staying away, made NASCAR be the "bad guy" and suspend him when he clearly was too sick to be in a race car at high speed. More importantly, AFTER being diagnosed with AIDS he continued having unprotected sex with his fiancé, and a few other women, all of whom died of AIDS as well. How can any decent person be so selfish and careless? I don't at all resent the success of wealthy folks or their kids, it's how he acted in the final two years of his life that taints my view of him.

  • @davidparrish1205
    @davidparrish1205 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Finished 3rd behind who Waltrip?!?

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 8 měsíci

      Darrell Waltrip. I believe was even ahead of him in points for a little while too, which means he could’ve been runner up. Still hard fought for third, and won the most races of anyone that season. He could wheel that thing!

    • @davidparrish1205
      @davidparrish1205 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard he said "Dale" Waltrip in the video. I think his mind got ahead of his mouth in this one. Lol

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@davidparrish1205 Absolutely. Plus I mumbled, which didn't help!

    • @davidparrish1205
      @davidparrish1205 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ClumsyCardboard it will come to you in time. Couple of flubs, but over all a good job on the narration.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 8 měsíci

      @@davidparrish1205 Much appreciated David. Thank you. More recent videos thankfully have improved a ways since. Taking on the story of Tim Richmond was a bit more than I ought to have, but I’m glad I did. And I’m glad I did it justice even with the mumbles and fumbles.

  • @drivin379
    @drivin379 Před rokem

    U stole that saying during jd stacy part from days thunder

  • @dockey6942
    @dockey6942 Před rokem

    Nascar problem I'm sure Nascar are proud of there self

  • @bradsanders407
    @bradsanders407 Před rokem +1

    Nascar knew he had aids. They weren't allowed to know, but seeing how Richmond lived in Florida and Nascars head physician is a practitioner out of Florida, come on. Like Dale Earnhardt was quoted in this video, "doctors talk to each other." They were suspending him one way or the other. They wanted to know how he got it as if it were from drugs, then he'd fail a drug test, and they wouldn't have to have the uncomfortable discussion. When he passed the test, they just claimed he failed, so they didn't have to appear to suspend a driver essentially for being gay and im sure they didnt want to have to admit they had a gay driver. Even after his death, his family was addiment he acquired it from heterosexual sex. Yeah I'm sure that's what he told them but as my doctor told me "if you don't use intravenous drugs or engage in anal sex with men there is no reason to test you for aids". Either way, shame on Nascar.

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a Před rokem

      Your whole statement is incorrect. Nascar didn't know he had Aids until the end. Because he wouldn't let a Nascar Doctor examine him. Aids was new back then and was associated with the Gay lifestyle. Tim was a womanizer, hiring hooked becouse he knew they wouldn't be after him for his money and it fit his busy life style.
      You are correct that Tim rubbed Nascar the wrong way. Nascar went after Tim because they thought he was using cocain. Plus, he wouldn't bend a knee to them.

  • @roberthill2219
    @roberthill2219 Před rokem

    Dr Fouchi's first high profile victim.

  • @ralphwilliams2396
    @ralphwilliams2396 Před rokem +2

    Gota love a Ohio Guy rip Tim Richmond but I gotta think nascar knew he had hiv and him downplaying the fact wasn't kool

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před rokem

      I reckon they knew.. they just didn't know how to go about it

    • @pat36a
      @pat36a Před rokem

      Nascar didn't know until the end.

  • @Moonracey1
    @Moonracey1 Před 3 měsíci

    Why do you keep showing other peoples race cars while talking about Richmond? It just dont make sense. It would be very confusing to many people that isnt familiar with what they are looking at.

    • @ClumsyCardboard
      @ClumsyCardboard  Před 3 měsíci +1

      If I did only use Tim’s race cars and footage for every single segment, it would only be a handful of clips that would be repeated. To prevent that, and to add context of both his competition and the era he competed in, occasionally you would see other people’s races, cars, and individuals.
      It wasn’t perfect, especially given this was my second ever video project, but nonetheless something that thankfully hasn’t been as much of an issue going forward. Hopefully that makes sense.

  • @paulwatson4189
    @paulwatson4189 Před rokem +1

    Lets be honest Great driver, Great personality But he knew he had aid's for yrs and kept sleeping with women with out a condom or ever telling them he was infected. 12 women died because of Tim's ego and denial .20/20 did some interviews with women he had infected. Not only did Tim kill these women by knowing he was sick he kept infecting women with aid's knowing they would die painfully and slowly just like himself. Nascar could not take a chance on him possibly infecting rescue workers or anyone else with a open bleeding wound. In short the man killed 12 women with out a gun or knife but by the worst way possible by aid's . Great driver but also a killer !There also was never ever a pass in the grass !

  • @JohnBeckner-tv8ug
    @JohnBeckner-tv8ug Před 9 měsíci +1

    Earnfart was on drugs 😅

  • @charles-mp9nt
    @charles-mp9nt Před rokem +1

    Title should be Tim Richmond screws every woman in the"system"🤣