White South African Man Just Pissed Off All Black People By SAYING THIS| Ep. 98
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- In this episode of the REPAT podcast, we discuss whether white people born in Africa can be considered African. We explore the complexities of identity, acknowledging Africa's diversity and historical influences. We consider factors like upbringing, cultural immersion, and connection to the local community. Let us know what you think in the comment section.
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Here is a Real Experience: I'm born in America, and of African descent. While living in the Netherlands, a young, white, South African repatriated to the Netherlands and was assimilated , integrated and homogenized into Dutch society so fast, I couldn't tell they were coming into the country from the outside. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE. Europeans' depth and the prism through which they see each other is much more different than the way Africans view diasporans.😳🤔
Dude, you are an outsider in the Netherlands , dutch people are very polite and tolerant but does not mean they accepted her as their own , as soon as she opens her mouth they know. Dutch people are very smart, you cannot fool them easily.
If you think that Europeans (whites) are one big family , you are wrong!
Any one who comes to NLDs and puts effort , learn the language , culture , invest himself in the NLDs , they will tolerate you. example: Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... i just want to tell you its not race based
@@gencis44 lol this dude or whatever you are is using hirsi ali as an example hilarious dutch people are the same as any other non blk group if you're willing to throw away yourself your own culture etc. They will love you if you're a stand up person who is not white they will show you who they are.
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I was born and raised here dutch people are clowns who think they know it all let me not start about how covert they are with everything.
@@gencis44 Perhaps you're right. But the speed at which this seamless integration happened, cannot be missed. I know they're very tolerant. But a few weeks is not enough time to get that kind of reception on the continent. I see it here in the US, and that's from brethren coming in from the continent and making first contact with black Americans in the US. It's nuanced and somewhat complex, but some of the reasons are unfortunate. WE HAVE MUCH WORK TO DO. 💪🏿
@@Brewed-mi1ue bro, the NLDs is a different story .. i was born here in the NLDs.
My 2 uncles left NLDs to USA and are married to AA women for the past 35 years , integration is what you do to achieve it.
if africans who came there can see AA are the same its easy to integrate with the black community and become black Americans .... they pave the way for Africans to be there, lets that sink in...
@@gencis44 question? are your uncles white?
No matter where you are born, as long as you are black you are still an African. People like Malcolm X, Bob Marley, Martin Luther King Jr, Muhammad Ali etc. None of these were born in Africa but they all stood up and fought for Africa's freedom because Africa is where they came from regardless of birth country or nationality.
YOU ARE SOooo CORRECT! It actually offends me that this is even a conversation! We seem to be the only people that have yet to learn who we are... I don't understand this..
@@jamesturner5029I agree. Too much patience shown for this South African (?)guy whose comments were made in such an aggressive gesture of his nationalim.
In contrast no matter where you're born as long as you're white, you're European 😂. Tell that to that yt boi
Sir, you are so so correct... no one can take Africa our of me ... even thou my mother is dutch i am still an African
This is So reductive.
Have actually ever read a histroy book?
Africa is a massive continant and the world even bigger, and don't get me started on genetics .
It's like you think black people only exsist in africa?
most humans that exist today, are homoseipians from africa, so the white people yall hate where probably once black.
There is evidence that humans voyaged out of Africa by at least 68,000 years ago. Researchers dug deep to find very ancient human bones inside a massive cave in the mountains of northern Laos. DNA leaves little doubt: All non-Africans alive today descend from a single wave of migration out of Africa. BUY THIS LOGIC MOST PEOPLE ARE AFRICAN BRO
Oshay is right! AA played a huge role in African liberation. I am surprised that some people on the panel think Africa is now trending. Africa's always trending, for good and for bad. I don't think we are trending because of afrobeats. When I first visited America, I met a lot of AA who knew of SA history and cared about the whole continent. Most of the time African immigrants are very dismissive of the plight of AAs.
How? Explain it was the USSR and Sino Soviet Who armed the liberation of Africa, African liberation came through brutal wars against European occupiers unless AAs were present fighting during the wars against colonization I don't see how? Maybe vocally sure but no where near as much as freedom fighters Trained by USSR the cold War was fought in africa.
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You dii ou r not help us, you were on the side of the USA which is against Africa.
It doesn’t make sense when y’all say such rethoric. Africans helped themselves when y’all were free in America. If anything, Africans tried to help y’all but y’all were so attached to the USA.
And lookup how Franklin Williams actually helped the white man and the cia sabotage Africans liberation.
Don’t ever say stuff just to exhale yourself to satisfy your pride and ego.
Russia and China helped us throughout history, and still are helping us while y’all in the USA call us tethers.
Nowhere in the USA you’ll find images of Patrice lumumba y’all didn’t even know about him until recently but Russia dedicated a whole school to him.
Cuba helped Africans a lot too.
The proof is, even today you’re still ignorant about Africans matters while benefiting from our misery as usa citizen.
What exactly do you mean by caring about the continent?
@@HolyRickstar I said they played a big role in the liberation struggle. That is an indisputable fact. The civil rights movement of the '60s played out around the same time that a lot of African states gained their independence. Most African flags were inspired by the Pan African Flag, which shows that AAs have always been part of the struggle. I know that way many other forces that work with us during the liberation movement, but we cannot dismiss the contribution of the AA.
A great man once said and i quote "YOU ARE NOT AN AFRICAN BECAUSE YOU WERE BORN IN AFRICA. BUT RATHER YOU ARE AN AFRICAN BECAUSE AFRICA IS BORN IN YOU". Let that sink in.
YES!!!!❤✊🏾
@@theovanstaden5766no , genetically you are white . You're cosplaying as an African
Malcolm x once said "just because a cat has kittens in an oven that don't make them biscuits ". Just because alot of us were born in America that doesn't make us American, this makes us descendants of captured people, Israelites or in some cases an immigrant if you are a descendant of the Olmec or some other indigenous African
@@theovanstaden5766so if you're white as was born in china does that make you asian 😂😂
@@theovanstaden5766 🫵😂😂😂there is no white tribe in Africa your ass is European ..also am not American am African born raised and always been indigenous to the continent ..take your confusion elsewhere and you didn't even answer the question you sad piece of work real Africa my 🍑sss
Morroco not identifying as African is pathetic but Africans shouldn't care, its time to focus on building not begging.
Please I have been telling people this over and over. As long as we are still running a begging bowl, no one will ever respect or even want us.
@@allancommons4109true.
Also gatekeeping our culture and heritage
@@slimpickens01
"Culture and heritage?" LMFAO!
@@handsomeman-pm9vy exactly!!
In Northern California, then moving to L.A., my parents were always proud to be of African heritage and instilled that in all 7 of their children. We never been to Africa, but we were proud to be of African ancestry. The Leimert Park African festivals was always cool
I like this dj maintain is not sitting on the fence with this one. Keep it up 😂😂😅👏👏👏
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Finally 😂
Oh quiet Rich Auntie 😂
O’Shea made the best point. Nationality and hereditary are different yet both important.
that's right that's why white people cannot be African
From the 23rd minute, the verbal articulation and the reference point, he keeps it simple yet top shelf ish. I respect DJ Maintain" school of thought. Love your channel guys, much love from South Africa.
A dog born in a stable is still a dog, Peter tosh said it perfectly, it doesn't matter where you come from as long as you're a black man you're an African, Marcus garvey tried to make sure we wouldn't be having this conversation, but powers in high places and our blindness made sure we wouldn't unite as one real USA. UNITED STATES OF AFRICA
This is really a good show, thank you my dusty brotha Oshay 😊
LOL!!!
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He can afford moisturizer now😂
Racist show for the racist....no intellect
You’re right on point Oshay!!! Thank you! Philly born and can attest to your commentary.
If a cow is born in the water…it doesn’t make it a fish. It’s still a cow. 😎
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Oshay Oshay Oshay! THANK YOU! Because us African-Americans, yes we are treated as if we are not truly African. And it's hurtful. It's very hurtful. Yes, we are different from those on the continent, but we are still a part. We can't help that our African ancestors were kidnapped from the land and stripped of their heritage and dignity.
Again, respect is something that we need to re-learn as African-Americans. That is true. But, again, we have been stripped of so much without our consent, that it's almost irreparable.
Our sorrow and our sadness as African-Americans is that we have no dignity, no connection to our ancestral homeland, a pain and a grief that I don't think our continental brothers and sisters quite understand....
And yes, the reason why the strongest Pan Africans are found in the black American community is because of the intensity of the pain and the cruelty we experience from the white man and other non black people of color on a daily, hourly basis.
I think that we can ALL learn from each other. The Diasporans need the Continent and vice versa.
Again, thank you Oshay! 🙌🏾🔥💝🥰
I’m african, all I say is don’t expect to have western norms and culture in our societies
@꧁Sindano Negongo꧂ We know and understand all that. We were going by what the devils showed us on TV and in magazines. Social media made everything clear for so many of us. They can not hide the real Afrika anymore. Many of us are coming to Momma Afrika because we see truth now.
As for me and many of my family, we are headed across the Atlantic Ocean for good. I hope we all can be good to each other and make the DEVILS 😈 CRY.
Good perspective. Come to Africa and immerse and embrace the African culture you lost. We are very happy and willing to embrace our stolen brothers and sisters ❤
You spent DECADES separating yourselves and now that you are treated as you ASKED to be seen near enough PROTESTED for you want to cry. Now that you see America will NEVER pay you reparations in any fashion that you want you suddenly want to be African that and because of a stupid Marvel movie.
@@gerrytushh Speak for yourself unless you have lived amongst these people and dealt with them directly you have no idea what you are inviting over.
This was a very good segment.. All points of views were thoughtful and straight to the point. Thank you for sharing.
Great topic. Excellent discussion!
I’m so glad Oshay made it clear that the ground work was done by the elders in the black American community.
"Black American Community?" LMFAO!
Big facts
Best podcast ever ! I love u guys ! You’re very honest! Thanks for loving your own race
Master Gabs always bring it! Great show guys 👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾 We Are The Culture.
Respect, brother 🤝🏾
Damn that white kid is bold. Now if somebody smacked the taste out his mouth they would be wrong though
Try it😂
Immigrants do the same thing to us in America but they are made at this kid for doing the same..gtfo
@@alonzorobinson2134 which immigrants do this?
He deserve it
Soon Africans will be tenants in Africa
One of the best episodes, it shows the power of debate.
The power of understanding all aspects of any situation is limitless. Thanks for this podcast.
Great Conversation ❗I appreciated all the different perspectives injected into this topic of conversation on all levels. So many Points covered and Noted ❗ Powerful narrative of words and word choices. Great Food's for Thought. Peace 🎈👈🏿😎
Oh no, Oshay is wrong.
If a white South African goes back there they'll consider him one of theirs. They know how white South Africans came to be. They will welcome him even if only on the basis of his skin.
Because they know how you came to be, many want you out!!!! You stole it!!!!! time to give it back!!!!
Over 80% always comes back to SA.... Afrikaneers can't go to Europe and claim any country.
I think many like to speak about things here but they know nothing about it
@@AustineAKBoeres is the right term
@@AustineAKso basically Boers run South Africa 🤔, you haven’t responded yet to one of my questions seems like you worship them.
@@AustineAK
What you don't understand is that the fact that they want to come back to the place where they were born and spent their entire lives doesn't mean that they're unwanted abroad. That's the subject here and it seems you're the one who doesn't understand that those are not mutually exclusive.
It's like making the idiotic statement that if Oshay chooses to return to the US after all these years it would be because Ugandans didn't accept him, and you exclude the possibility that he just misses home and wants to go back to the place where he may have parents, siblings, relatives etc.
And I'm not sure where you got the idea that they'd go claim a country. Maybe you need to educate yourself on the matter because dutch is the heavy influence on Afrikan and that's why the dutch wouldn't be ignorant and wouldn't turn them away just because they were born somewhere else yet have all traits of a Dutch.
They don't come back to south Africa because they're turned away, they come back because at this point believe it or not, accept it or not, it may not be the home of their ancestors but now it's their home too. 🤷🏿♂️
As a South African i believe you just take it as what its meant in that area.🤷 Black person in Brazil is still a Brazilian. in india , a indian speaks to race but in America, a American speaks to location. Understand the country and you will know whats meant
America and Brazil were not discussed.
A relevant and mature discussion. Honesty is always relevant.
Why would you want to be embraced by someone you do not respect?
That is the action of someone who truly hate themself so they seek those who are different..who are not like him/herself, who he/she hate, to be among them..to be embraced by them.
His nationality is South Africa but his not African. An African in Europe is not a European even if his born there.
Even us born African, and anytime I visit, they call me white (meaning the accent, clothes I wear, etc), but what really they saying is leaving there and embracing the culture even some white folks that have lived in Africa for long are not really seen as outsiders
Duke your point is pointless brother It doesn't matter he cannot claim it because he doesn't have the bloodline which is far different from those who does. What he can claim is nationality which is no more than a legalized citizen. 🥴❓
Love this show the argument is real!!
Great conversation. I enjoyed listening to everyone’s perspective. I believe that a persons identity should be established on the basis of their lineage and not necessarily where they born. When things are lineage based, it makes it hard for people who don’t descend from that lineage to lay claim to ownership of things that are not theirs. If anyone can be accepted as African just by being born there then are we also to say that anyone born in Africa should have access to land, resources, and culture? Obviously those things should be preserved for the indigenous peoples of Africa and their descendants over the world. No matter where we are born as black people in this world, we can never take Africa out of our DNA. We literally have the phenotypes we have because they helped our ancestors survive in the hot climate of Africa.
I like how all the Individuals addressed their experience with a brilliant tone and awareness.
Great conversation 👍🏾
This needs to be on iTunes so I can listen while driving! HELLO?!
Great push back on Oshay! The issue of abuse is Superiority and Dominance! The drama continues.. He can go to Europe and have a wonderful life even if he has an accent...
I don’t even acknowledge yt ppl as Africans in ANY capacity. It’s like I’m innately incapable. Only WE TRULY represent the soil.
And you're black American right?
Yt people? WTF are you even saying?
Im white and i agree with you.
The same with black people that live in europe they will never be european they may be euroean citizen but i will never see them as european.
LOL. Racist dribble.
I think this dude would never act like that when trying to claim his European heritage. It's the don't give a dam attitude and delivery that disqualified him. He is born in South Africa but doesn't seem to respect South Africans.
That's because you don't know the guy, I know him personally.
He's one patriot, he lives the land,
Apartheid is disrespectful. These folks ain't sorry 😅
@@simonesimona8317 do you stay in south Africa?
@@AustineAKwhy is there always a weak black man ready to defend a disrespectful white man
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100% Agreed with Street Media Tv response to the other video in the beginning !
You people are discussing lot of sense thank you all brothers and sister.
I was bron in Africa am currently in Universty i stardid black American History and influence through Hip Hop a history a class and American Hornor's History class Back in High School from what i stardid even though black people have been embracing black culture for a long time Since the growth of Hip Hop, in the 70's even though Hip Hop was mostly poetry, and about the black American struggle in the beggining in the Beggining but when rapprs started rapping about being in Gangs and populization on Murder through Trap and drill music in the 80s until the early 2000s it brought some individualizim in the black community compared to the 60s lucky for me i refused to follolw the trends, and what was popular i decided to curve my own path and chose to be respectfull, and having an opend mind which Helped me transtioning into American culutre especcialy around black people without having the steryotpe, from what i so growing up in the earlt 2000s o telivision about black America cultre through Hip Hop and trap which i grew up with and statred to have belives that what was potrayed on telivision, and CZcams back in 2019 wasn't true, and they just build on steryotpes, and not my real experience plus my first time to the US in New York i went to a black American church which i got to interact with black people in person which was my favorite experience. There times in the news that i had of black people being short by the police, and black people robbing stores through my experience with black people in New York it helped me moving to Atlanta, and Maryland plus how i grew up since i was young in a christian household i was told not to judge or you will be judged , and to to other's as you,would like them to do to you , plus i was told you don't know who will help you in the futrure would like them to do to you through my family teacher's and friends, which it also helped me to get through in life, and not just America.
Oshay's final statement was excellent. Shows growth of mindset.
Straight talk am loving it fam
Very good debate. Thank You
Great conversation
Oshay no matter where you come from, as long as you are a black man you are an African period!!!! To be an African you have to be black
Naaaah
White south Africans are Africans period.
Not true, Philippines have balck people and they are not africans. 😂
@@lugaritzbrown2250 Yeaaah!
Wrong . Not all black peoples are African. I am black yes but i am indigenous to America i have no ties or bloodlines in africa.
I learnt how to speak Yoruba in Nigeria in my teens whilst schooling there in 6 months and I now never speak English when I visit Nigeria now, just to blend in perfectly 🤦🏽♂️
Oshay I like the way you played devil's advocate and got the conversation started 👍🏾
I recently saw a video about a White South African MMA fighter who said the same thing. And was saying Israel Adesanya wasn’t a real African. I looked at the comments and a lot of South Africans defended the White dude.
Who were his defenders? I hope not the black South Africans
Unfortunately Most Continental Africans are Truly! Dangerously! Brainwashed By European Colonialism & it makes me sick to my soul to see how they Coon & Cater to them Devils... #May THE MOST HIGH HAVE MERCY ON THEIR SOULS...
Because their cowards
@@1NatureGod nah
@@AustineAK dude thats the whole reason yall were defending them because yall got no choice yall land got stolen not evin stolen take it by force by this white folks but he they can say that in south africa but in other but not outside our in a present off other africans ew check that mwfck real quick
On behalf of myself being an ELDER, I'd like to say Thank You Oshay for the comment/reminder to our participation in PAN AFRICAN MOVEMENT and the continuous work of the BLK DiASPORA.
As for a WHT MAN from South AFRICA, he would not have to do the "work" to fit into any country that has WHT PEOPLE, especially as AMERICAN BLK PEOPLE have to do in any Country/Continent.
@@rafaelw8115 Exactly! One group came to my mind was Ukrainians how much 'work' did they have to do to fit in??
@@rafaelw8115 Sorry I tagged you by mistake it was for the 'original' comment. But thanks for responding.
@@rafaelw8115 I know what I said, and I know how implied it, I am far more older than Dr Omar, and respect his knowledge, however I lived in AFRICA as I've also traveled the world, and this transcends social media, as for if i'M contradictory, I know i'M AFRiCAN, when I was saying thank you to Brother OSHAY, it was because he acknowledged the elders that put in the work, the RESPECT that eludes younger GENERATIONS. There was no contradiction, I said what I said purposely.
@@rafaelw8115 you preaching to the choir beloved, I said what I said purposely, I am 63, my children who are grown have African names and grew up in an Afrocentric environment, when I lived in AFRICA in 2003 I knew I was AFRICAN, even though everyone CALLED me American, but right now in 2023 there iZ Anti-Black Hate War on BLACK PEOPLE iN America, from voting rights, banning books, to trying to ERASE BLACK HISTORY and the BLACK EXPERIENCE, to Police Abuse/Brutality,So you GONNA have to forgive an elder brother for feeling more NAT TURNER than KWAME NKRUMAH.✊🏿 STiLL AFRICAN, but UNAPOLOGETICALLY BLACK 🏴
She is wrong if we can trace back to African lineage we are African in DNA just not culturally.
@Duke...if you put on the instrumental of 'My Ambitions As a Rider' ... without any words being said...a feeling arises inside of you and any Black male within ear distance. The DRUM and the accompanying musical frequencies speak to you and invokes a feeling...@ Joanita 🖤♥️💛
Good conversation, that's how you come to resolution
NO 1 PODCAST IN AFRICA PERIOD
Joanita facial expression be killing me😂😂😂. You guys should do compilation of all Joanita facial expression on the pod...
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good talk a breath of fresh air
He is a causcasian from the European caves. He is a South African by default! Meaning he was born in South Africa because of his forefathers' colonizers! I was born in the United Snakes of Amerikkka also by default due to the colonizer kidnapping my ancestors from the continent of Africa! I never considered myself as a Caucasian from the European continent just because I was born in Amerikkka!🙄🤷🏾♀️ 😎
Umm… your ancestor weren’t kidnapped by Europeans. Your ancestors were kidnapped and sold off a beachside market by rival west african tribes to Europeans for muskets and tobacco.
@@jibril2473idnapping is kidnapping no matter whoever does it
@@jibril2473 indians did the same before whitey came to the US. Same with Aztecs who sacrificed other tribes in rituals. Blacks always ignore reality to fit their own weak mindset.
Your ancestors weren’t kidnapped they were sold by other African tribes
@@ladybug3380 some ancestors were kidnapped. After the Arab slave trade started, Africans were killing and raping each other for profit. It was tribe vs tribe, and the loser was sold to Arabs or rich blacks. Musa, the richest black had black slaves and even sold some to the Arabs.
I'm legit confused about ancestry and how it's determined which country one claims, I see a lot of AA who claim a particular African country and wonder how it's possible to only claim one.
My ancestry has at least 8 different African countries attached, so it's hard for me to believe that most other AA don't have at least a few countries that they can claim.
Even my wife who has 96% African ancestry has multiple African countries in her profile.
Are people just choosing the country that they have the most DNA from?
Very good conversation
I'm African American born 1950's From a wonderful African American culture community. Since the day I was born we're taught we're African. My school my church my friends neighborhood. I've always had history. I'm from Miami, Florida.
I have tu say all four of ma grandparents are black, i was born and raised in michigan, i've always been proud of bein black, i've always had a high reverence for afrika, I don't mind people callin me afrikan, if yu wanna call me afrikan I wldn't mind, but i have a high respect for orther people and their culture,
Iss jus like if a french man came tu america and said he was american, we wld tell him no yu are not yu are french, so I don't mind afrikans callin me foreigner, because i am, but i take high offence if anyone calls me white, i ain't white and i am a member of the conscious community, those are curse words in the conscious community, we call each other white as a negative term over here in america, so i will take it offensively from anybody, hell naw i ain't white, i wld hate tu be white or anything other than black, i hate the effect that white people had on the planet, i wanna see afrika du good, and i'll help in anyway i can, DON'T CALL ME WHITE, I AM NOT WHITE,
I've been tu kenya twice in the past two years, and i love it,
As far as I know, the one thing about the 60s that made growing up a little more comfortable than it was for my parents was that Blk Americans found a sense of belonging other than the plantations and brutal slave masters. Because yt America controlled the music industry, it took years before Blk music (R&B, Gospel, Jazz, Rap, etc.) was broadcasted and accepted by mainstream America, however, it was totally embraced by Blk and brown people via the underground. In many cases, it took decades before some genres were broadcast by the mainstream media. The same is true about the appreciation for African music and culture. It was the intention of the yt society to prevent the African diaspora from becoming as profound as it has today. We must keep in mind that people are largely influenced by the media. Social media removed the limitation of exposure, and once everyday people could control their own narrative, that changed everything.
Oshay I rock with you. I am born and raised in New Jersey 77 baby and I remember the African movement and the love we gave Africa.
My boo Jonita looking like a Black Panther: Wakanda Forever extra with that top on. I see you😍
Marcus Garvey started pan African before everyone. Back to Africa movement. Jahguide
The girl was making some good points but O’shay didn’t understand her, he kept interrupting. What she was trying to say is that what about those black Americans who don’t identify as African American or don’t like being called that term? There are a whole lot of them out there even on CZcams called themselves so many different names ie ADOS, FBA, Indigenous to the Americas, Moors, Black Amerindians, Nuwabians, Hebrew Israelites, Conservative blacks, so on and so forth
I refer to myself as Negro American when addressing my 'race' and that's because of my PARENTS. They were called Colored or Negro and their parents were called Colored sharecroppers and THEIR parents were called Colored Slaves. I'm just 49...certainly not young and not quite old but my parents had me at almost age 40...they were born in 1937 and 1938. My parents were more doers than talkers, but I remember the lessons I was blessed to hear growing up as your basic Negro girl knowing both sets of grands AND my maternal grands. I allow no one to tell me who I am. I know who I am.❤❤❤
Strangely enough a lot of the terms some of them use are actually terms of African tribes. Even the ones who claim to be Hebrew don't seem to realize that there are western and central African tribes that still say that their descendants are ancient Hebrew and moved from ancient Egypt to where they are now.
Those Africans have been saying this for longer than black Americans even thought that there was such a conversation, yet they'll try to distance themselves from that. Nothing one can do about it, people are free to choose the narrative that brings them comfort.
I would say they're irrelevant.
@@jacquelynn2051 And that’s exactly what I’m trying to say. Call yourself who you want to be that’s fine with us continental Afrikans, and please let us be we don’t want to be drag into other people identity crisis. We have too many internal problems of our own that’s all I’m trying to say.
@@CR1992.. Im Hebrew and we know we are African. We just aren't from the Hamitic line. We are African Shemitic or African-Asianic. Are forefathers Shem and Ham are brothers and both where black. We faced persecution in Rome, Greece, Portugal and my ancestors fled to Western Africa and Central Africa so they could avoid persecution so you are correct in what you say. Many that fled where put into slavery by Europeans, Arabs, and African Hamitics not Shemtics, we did not put our own in slaveships. We where Purchases by the British, and Ashkenazi merchants, and Arabs from the Portuguese. Many of the Hebrews that lived in Nigeria, Angola, and some from Ghana where put into slaveships. The ones from Nigeria where sent to North America along with their brothers. and sisters from Angola. The Hebrews in Ghana where shipped to Jamaica and Hati, mainly the carribean and South America. You where spot on with your claims and know what you are talking about. Many blacks in america and I know this for a fact come from Yahuda and that is King Dawids tribe. The reason why when you take a DNA test and it might say you're Nigerian, Ivory Coast, Ghanian, Bantu, Angola, Congo or from Cameroon is because that is where we where when they took our people, we even mingled with Hamitic tribes, took wives, and had many children.
The guests are spot on!!!
Exactly!
Things going in Africa is not supposed too go on either even those boRn there the Bible the earth is out of course....
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I agree with everyone, you have to accept the African culture, and because of this, I don't beleive I could live in a African Country for a long period of time. I am too westernized.
dont be hard on yourself. African cultures need a lil Westernazition in order develop and evolve. I am born and bleed Ugandan but I don't see myself or my kid going full mental raw African culture. Its not for me and I suppose for anyone in this era
@@allancommons4109 So Westernazition is synonymous with modernization ? That's so untrue and it has been refuted by the Chinese that Westernisation does not hold the monopoly on advancement...Besides at point in history Africans were evolving when Europeans were still living in caves and Africans laid the foundation for advancement before it was co opted by Europeans and weaponized against Africans through chattel enslavement and colonization
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Gotta stop caring so much about what these folks say.
Well said oshay❤❤
Gabz always with legit opinion
How about this: 'speak at least one african language'! Learn and speak it please. We learn people's deep cultural realities when we learn their language. When we speak their language, they may have better feelings about us - it may be one of the ways of showing love and care your them as a people.
@Paterne Bengehya Some of the most racist people are fluent in African languages. That's a weak score unfortunately.
Peter Tosh dont care where u come from as long as u a BLACKMAN YOUR A AFRICAN
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I am from Atlanta Georgia and we have been told that we're from there we know that God made us when he made you
Well, I always knew that my family (on my mothers side) did extensive research to show and demonstrate CLEAR INFORMATION for me that my famil, about 400 years ago, migrated from Barbados as a family of 3 (1 brother mixed/ mulatto and 2 Beautiful brown Sisters).. One thing I researched independently was the fact of a lot of traditional and cultural behaviors of Barbadians in their art, culture and everything is STRONGLY linked to West African traditions/ culture and everything. So I can honestly say, I can go to Barbados and West Africa and find more information about myself snd my family....
Genetics makes you African! The gene, blood, biology; that is foundamental.Gaining acceptance if you've been born outside the continent depends fortmostly on the awareness of the natives and how the returnee carries him or herself. I am Nigerian, born back home but have lived most of my adult life in Italy. Back home, all I need to do is get back simply blend back into my people. But if I get back and live as though I am a white man, I will be discriminated against.
BS,you're not welcome in South Africa but I'm welcome in Nigeria 😆
Nope, if you were born in Africa and grew up there you are African, if you are black and born outside African you desend from African ancestros.
@@carlitosortiz2870its still the same thing black americans are no different than the africans that were sent to america the blood is the same the genetic makeup did not change
@@Negro.spiritual if you go to Africa you' ll see two skin tones, dark & darker, black Americans have about 9 different skin tones.....big difference.
@@carlitosortiz2870 MOST african americans are not these light skin mixed kids infact thats another media potrayal i cant stand as an african american most are the same complexion as me and on average 70 percent african i am 90% im am genetically the same as my grandfather and his grandfather who was a slave again for most of us we are still the same ppl and africa isnt monolithic in skin tone you will find alot of light skin fulani people in nigeria and cameroon alot of light skin khoisan ppl in south africa light skin Ethiopians
I don't know about Netherlands, but white SA's don't face discrimination from white people when they go to England, they don't get told "You're not one of us" (unless it's Rugby/Cricket ). Along with Australians, New Zealanders and I'd even say Canadians, they have a much easier time integrating than non-native blacks do in African countries.
@IKEIVERSON Oh they hate them! They tell them to go back to Africa, it is the most shocking thing
So so true!
Nice broadcast.
Here's the issue for me as a Black ADOS American..I'm not African. I'm Black American and I'm proud of my Black American ADOS Heritage and Lineage..That being said..I deal with Nigeria daily and I luv my Nigerian brothers and sisters and family yet many of the things that take place and the things Nigerians do to each other and how they think and feel about life is ass backwards to me and I don't think I need to get specific..BUT When I see Folks in our Diaspora I feel a sense of Joy!! I luv my Negroid Ppl in my mind and heart because I get it!! I feel kindred to ALL Negroid Ppl of Earth yet I'm not foolish enuff to believe we're all the same Ppl? And anywhere I am in Africa it's my duty to learn that culture, respect that culture whether I agree or not..Because I refuse to insert myself into any Diaspora Culture and not humble myself..Doesn't mean to be a foot stool but respect for that culture should automatically be given..but make no mistake. I'm BLACK!!! and I'm a PROUD Black America YET I don't adhere to this rationing of were ALL Black Ppl because we are not!!! But y'all belong to me..U ALL are my PPL.. Differences and all of that..♥️🖤💯
Stupid 😂calling yourself witte but in real world is european... african.. call black in the real world your are african (black the N woord)
Ados is dead. FBA is alive!
I would ignore those people. (Boers or whatever they are)
By the way, a lot of AA/Blacks have akways embraced our African connections. I was raised with this consciousness. My father was a panther in his youth, and I went to an Africentric preschool. He listened to African music and jazz. He had a huge map of the Africa in his office. He gravitated towards Islam for years until he learned more about who we really are. He actually prayed to the east (believe he still does) His mothers family actually knew that their origins were fulani, which is amazing! There are very proud AA in the diaspora.
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Peace and blessings family proud descendant of the Yoruba. AA man. I always felt like I belonged in Africa.
@@redlion12 Absolutely belong!
@@db6881 Elaborate
@Bayyinah Zhaxx AA have always spat in the face of Africans and Africa. You only try and claim to be Egyptians who don't even consider themselves African. Africa and being African usually a trend for you, something you like to put on and take off. It took a fake African country in a movie for you to suddenly want to be African.
The founder of pan Africanisim in Africa is a Nigerian named Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, the Zik of Africa as he was fondly called. He was the one who introduced Kwame Nkrumah to pan-Africanism. You can research this and see it for yourself. Due to Nigeria's internal politics, his star was dimmed, and Nkurumah became the torch-bearer of pan-Africanism in Africa. Nnamdi Azikiwe mentored not just only Nkurumah but a host of other African leaders who went on to agitate for and win independence for their respective countries; the likes of Kenneth Kaunda, Milton Obote and even the young Nelson Mandela were influenced by Azikiwe's.
Sit Down & Talk, That all what we need
I am a darked-skinned Black American and lived in a small African country. I would told, "You look like us, but you are not one of us."
The Africans "smelled" the stench of whiteness and "Europeaness" on me.
And, you know what? I understood.
I was born in Uganda and I am from the baganda tribe. But they call me German 😂 I am treated different. Since I didn't grow up there.
It's best to just start calling ourselves african born in america and not be identified as african american
@@uncannytheos2454 No, Black American is an ethnic group just like any other ethnic group. And to be honest African shouldn't even be before American. Some of us are tied and rooted in America some more than others.
Overstood...problem is when other phenotypically similar groups organize against you, and them, it begins to appear nonsensical.
"Yo, the devil's tryna to put together his gang, me too" ~ Black Thought
I'm accepted anywhere in Africa 😆
Simply being born in Africa doesn't make one an African.
What does it mean to BE African?
Are the progeny of a French Bulldog who have been bred in America now considered be American Bulldogs?
The same thing: If French Bulldogs (which are a combination of English Bulldogs and Parisian Rat Terriers - admixed with other breeds) which have been birthed in Britain now considered to be English Bulldogs?
To be African is to subscribe to a common set of social morays and cultural values.
Colonizers and their descendants could never be authentic Africans.
They and their ancestors arrived with the intention to conquer the indigenous people.
Now, they want to promulgate the delusion that they are African?
A more apt designation for a South African White (person?) would be: USURPER.
Bs Kak
Do more research about the continent of Africa.
Have you Ever heard of North Africa? It is "Non-Black Africa."
North Africa consist of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt.
@@handsomeman-pm9vy Correct, this dummy knows nothing...
In 1996, the then Deputy president of South Africa, Thabo Mbeki, gave a speech called 'I am an African', which many people like to quote on Africa Day but never read in full and in context.
"I am formed of the migrants who left Europe to find a new home on our native land. Whatever their own actions, they remain still, part of me."
That stanza is in there too, along with the recognition of several other peoples of the world who call South Africa home.
Use it, don't use it.
Korrek
Verstaan djy!!
Oshay what qualifies you to be an African is a combination of things and skin color is definitely one of them
For me skin color is good, but East Indians, Asians and other indigenous people like in Australia can be very darkly melanated. The single identifying character for an African is kinky hair. You don't find that anywhere else in the world as a trait.
I say no matter where you find your self,as long as your skin color is black, you came from Africa.
I say Africans don't really care which language or accent you speak. Matter of fact, we are a multilingual society. As long as you look like us you will always be treated like one of us.
@@simonesimona8317no, you can find that in places like the Solomon Islands and other places.
Oshay, people from the Caribbean, ex. Jamaica etc. has no problem being African because they have the culture. AA do because they lack the culture. Western culture exudes from AA, so they are treated differently even in the Caribbean because of the way they carry themselves as better than. Oshay needs to travel to the Caribbean and he would understand. I can say this because I am Caribbean born but lived in the US since childhood. Believe me, there is a difference.
Here y’all go again with the culture shit. Let’s not act all the Caribbean have no problem being African. Idk wht AAs u been around but ik alot of have no problem being saying there African. Stop generalizing AAs
@@jermainenowels9511 African I have problem
I understand what you are saying, i myself as a Caribbean see the similarity in things we do and didnt even realize their roots in Africa .. west indian ppl know we are african descent . My country people know, however some might be reluctant to go because they see africa and poor ... african and West indian get along fine when they come here , so i get you..when we go to settle, in Africa we most like won't be running back this side.
THANK YOU. Black Americans really do my nut in they only suddenly want to be African because it's trending, bs like Black Panther made them want to be African also hopes of getting land since they'll never get land or reparations in America.
@@jermainenowels9511 Your response proves my point. You have no clue what I am talking about.
Damn you broke that down bro
Great topic, it relates also to children who get adopted, and displaced from their natural immediate family. That child will forever feel like they don't belong.
Total Nonsense!
Black Africans, to me, are very conservative, not in a sense of American politics, but their morality and values.
It's like the entire continent operates on the timing/frequency of women
If he’s African then I’m a blonde hair Viking 😂
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Do more research about the continent of Africa.
Have you Ever heard of North Africa? It is "Non-Black Africa."
North Africa consist of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt.
Elon Musk, a "Real" African America.
I am African American, living in Washington,DC! The Nations Capitol and because they won't let DC get statehood, We have No Vote like the rest of the Country!!🗣️"Taxation without Representation!!"😡 💯 STR8 OUTTA DC 🇺🇸😒
Roman's legionnaires were from different places, they used to say My country is where my house is
Oshay at 10 min. You are wrong with your point.
If he goes to the Netherlands, they will simply accept him. That already based on his skin color. The language they call afrikaans is almost the same as the dutch language.
If I go to South Africa, I can communicate with them without any problem. In the Dutch language.
Even some people who come from Suriname (a country in South America and the old colony of the Netherlands). Could talk to the South Africans. Because they also speak Dutch there.
He never said that he loves or embraces Africans. He was saying he is a proud Afrikaan. They have their own separate society and language within the continent, till this day. I know its hard for us to fathom but thats what it is. He is saying we are AfrikAAn. We took your land and we are not giving it back. This has nothing to do with integration with the native peoples. I have also met 3rd generation Indians who consider themselves to be African. Kenya just recently recognized their Indian population as a tribe...I bet they paid a nice chunk for that 😅
Correct this is why Africa must unite and REMOVE these invaders from our FATHERLAND!!!!!
Korrek
So Kenya did ..in Uganda they wanted too but Ugandans said no.because it could never be the same for us Africans in India to be accepted as a tribe .
@@terekab5883 India? Why
@@terekab5883 not in a million years or for a million dollars; Indians don't even recognise dark skin Indians much less Africans
Being African is a question of heritage. It does not matter where you were born or where you grew up as long as African blood flows in your veins you are African.
Does the Caribbean guy at the end have his own channel?
But O’Shay when president Mugabe decided to return the lands back to Zimbabweans , what did the whites do? They had no problem saying that they would leave and go back to Europe or UK and they did so they still reconnected with their ancestral heritage.
They accepted them without no problems.
Africans may ask about my citizenship, but my Black family has been in Amerrica for 8 generations. I have respect for Africans, but I don't feel any connection to Africa. I am a Black American. I study about Africans countries, had friends from Ghana, South Africa and Kenya, but I don't feel any special connection.
Me either I'm just be truthful like they try to put us down to make them feel is 😂 flabbergasted to me but kudos to them let see if they have that same energy when trump or desantis get elected you'll must don't know what going on America that shit get disband if you not American citizen goodbye you go don't try to be African brother then Latino get there taste now in Florida and the African next black people don't march for the ass the show they true color
Stay with what you are comfortable with.