I returned the vision pro - here's why (developer perspective)

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
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    chapters:
    0:00 - 1:10 Intro
    1:10 - 2:24 App development
    2:24 - 5:11 Day-to-day use
    5:11 - 6:02 Small annoyance 1
    6:02 - 7:45 Small annoyance 2

Komentáře • 95

  • @ib992kahm2
    @ib992kahm2 Před 3 měsíci +45

    Most of these influencers had no intention to keep the vision pro. Now that original hype/views are over no way are they keeping a 4000 dollar device with very limited uses.

    • @Vim_Tim
      @Vim_Tim Před 3 měsíci +10

      Yeah, bro is capping so hard lol. He just bought it for the views like the rest of them 🙄

  • @QuestionMeWillYou
    @QuestionMeWillYou Před 3 měsíci +13

    So, I own a Vision Pro and I love it and I already am using it Productively.... That being said... I totally understand why he is returning it and it's an honest video. Not just a hater. I moved from Software Engineer to Management, and I use Vision Pro A lot. I never used my other VR devices enough....
    But $4000 is a lot.
    So, I also wear glasses. and I found that I could use the Vision Pro just fine without the Vision Inserts. And I also noticed my clicking on things were not as precise.
    I decided to get the $150 insert just to get the clearest text I could get. Because My Mac seamed Blurry in Vision Pro.
    When I installed my Vision Inserts it took me through a new Optical Alignment. And what I found was everything was very crisp now... but also the Clicking became more precise.
    So, I think his clicking experience was because he didn't have the inserts.

    • @slob5041
      @slob5041 Před 3 měsíci +1

      What pro is it intended for? Not being passive aggressive or anything it’s just a real question I’ve been asking myself.

  • @antonio_carvalho
    @antonio_carvalho Před 3 měsíci +6

    More than anything, I'm amazed at your repacking abilities.

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 Před 3 měsíci +22

    When I went to the Apple Store, three people came in with their Vision Pro box looking to get a refund

    • @silvercelica19
      @silvercelica19 Před 3 měsíci +5

      That’s probably because they couldn’t resell it.

    • @KevinA.Fuller
      @KevinA.Fuller Před 3 měsíci +4

      Same! I overheard the Apple employee saying that 25 people returned their AVP just in *one* day! But yeah, it just isn’t worth it for the price yet. I wish that there were more apps on it and that you could rearrange the apps.

  • @epidemicsound
    @epidemicsound Před 3 měsíci +1

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  • @garrettunhinged
    @garrettunhinged Před 3 měsíci +14

    I love how honest this is. I totally get it ha. I'm gonna try to be patient with it and see where it goes.

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +3

      yeah I kinda wish I kept it just to give it a chance. If I somehow get a windfall of $4k I'll buy it again haha

    • @garrettunhinged
      @garrettunhinged Před měsícem

      @@YourAverageTechBro update I did end up returning it a couple days after I typed this comment and I am glad. Huge Apple fanboy but I’m gonna sit on the sidelines for this one. Beautiful product and I truly love to see it, but I just had a lot of personal pain points (glasses wearer, headache issues, etc)

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před měsícem

      @@garrettunhinged totally understandable. Funny enough I actually ended up re-buying the headset because I missed having it haha. Do I use it every day? Definitely not. But still I like having it around

  • @jayholt
    @jayholt Před 3 měsíci +1

    About to be there soon. Returning next week 😢

  • @JimmyGeniusEllis
    @JimmyGeniusEllis Před 3 měsíci +3

    I agree with your hot take! Everybody always complains about how heavy vr headsets are. there not heaavy to me at all either! and i have the apple vision pro too. not taking mine back though.

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 Před 3 měsíci +1

    0:26. And to think, it's only going to get better, and probably pretty quickly.

  • @neilrisley6667
    @neilrisley6667 Před 3 měsíci

    Is the vision Pro not using similar hardware to the macbook pro? I was under the impression they shared similar hardware???

  • @hollyc5417
    @hollyc5417 Před 3 měsíci +3

    imagine being the dude that returned a first gen AVP 10 years from now when they're worth 10x the price.

    • @franckr8277
      @franckr8277 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Better ROI buying apple stocks for the same price lol

    • @Vim_Tim
      @Vim_Tim Před 3 měsíci +2

      The unopened ones will be valuable. The used ones will not be worth much.

    • @jewsrKing1996
      @jewsrKing1996 Před 2 měsíci

      So true

  • @Kevdog1920
    @Kevdog1920 Před 3 měsíci

    I would like to try coding. But I don't know how hard it is. I did make my own website once with html but never tried building code for a app

  • @Instant_Nerf
    @Instant_Nerf Před 3 měsíci +1

    People are so dead wrong about this device. The capability has not yet been realized. I’ve seen some shit .. upcoming… that looks like memories … achieved with Gaussian splatting, but video . Forget 360 vr or 180 vr.. we’re talking 6 degrees of freedom to walk around in.. I’ve seen my home environment being changed by ai in real time .. turned my home into a dungeon while keeping the layout the same .. etc on and on

  • @mohamedalbaiti1251
    @mohamedalbaiti1251 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't understand, if 4000 dollars is too much for you to pay then why you bought it in the first place?

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +1

      not that it's too much, but more of too much for what the device has to offer. I have no issue dropping that type of cash it's just that the product didn't provide me with $4k of value imo.

  • @BeingOneselfROZ
    @BeingOneselfROZ Před 23 dny

    Thank you for your an honest presentation. Vision Pro is very exciting for lovers of special computing while in the Apple ecosystem. With a few software updates it will allow a smoother productivity experience.

  • @ChristopherCricketWallace
    @ChristopherCricketWallace Před 3 měsíci

    can't run Xcode on it. Only one Macbook screen. That may be a deal breaker for me. No Alt+Tab

  • @wuffgang5333
    @wuffgang5333 Před 3 měsíci

    wasnt good for learning to code neither? i wanna watch youutbe code video or on udemy or ebook and code in the macbook window on avp. is that a working usecase?

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +1

      That's a totally valid use case and I could see it being helpful. Do I think you really need the vision pro to learn to code though? Nah lol people have been learning to code just fine without it

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm actually surprised that you can bring yourself to return it. I'm curious how many people will keep it verses return it. Perhaps Apple should be renting these out, like they used to with the original Macintosh.

  • @MicMaine
    @MicMaine Před 3 měsíci

    Sony might be dropping something round the corner thats gonna change the ballgame, this probably a blessing 🙌🏾

  • @Vim_Tim
    @Vim_Tim Před 3 měsíci +1

    Vision OS is based on iPadOS. That means it will NEVER be macOS unfortunately. I don’t think Apple wants to make this an all-in-one productivity machine.

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci

      Unfortunately I do think that is the case as well which makes the vision pro a harder sell for developers like myself. One can dream 😬

  • @Matth9782
    @Matth9782 Před 3 měsíci

    Bottom line, what is the highest price that would have met your value threshold to keep it, based on its current state of usability?

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Around $2000 I would've kept it. I think once it starts going to $2500+ is when it starts to become really painful

    • @Matth9782
      @Matth9782 Před 3 měsíci

      @@YourAverageTechBro Agreed, $1999 is what I was thinking too, although for larger appeal, they are going to have to find a way to reach $1299... At $3499 for what it is, it's almost like Apple doesn't want people to keep it, that price feels like a deposit to test a prototype for them.

    • @catfishvega3728
      @catfishvega3728 Před 2 měsíci

      I guessed $2000 before clicking on the response. Interesting others said the same amount.

  • @tom98vr4
    @tom98vr4 Před 23 dny

    Nope.. Im keeping mine. But I’m sure some AR trend will make affordable if they announce a “Vision Pro Air” -> starting $999 with an M4 chip lower resolution with better FOV and an apple controller device (pencil) you can wave, click, point and connect to the new iPadOS, Phone remotely.

  • @SimFlightExplore
    @SimFlightExplore Před 3 měsíci

    Nice feed back!

  • @build-things
    @build-things Před 3 měsíci +2

    I agree if it were a macbook replacement. I would buy one

  • @xastralmars
    @xastralmars Před 3 měsíci +1

    no you should've given it to me!!1!!

  • @MicMaine
    @MicMaine Před 3 měsíci

    Im really wondering what Apple is gonna do with all these returned units 🤔

    • @slob5041
      @slob5041 Před 3 měsíci

      Resell them and probably use it for market research

  • @silvercelica19
    @silvercelica19 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Most people are not returning it because they don’t like it, it’s because they can’t resell it and make a profit, trust me.

    • @paulrevere1479
      @paulrevere1479 Před 3 měsíci +2

      They think they’re slick

    • @Vyviel
      @Vyviel Před 3 měsíci +3

      100% or they couldn't afford it in the first place but wanted to show off to people. Same trick as buying a fancy expensive dress for a party then leaving the tags on and returning it the next day =P

  • @bluecarrot9491
    @bluecarrot9491 Před 3 měsíci

    I live in MX, so I can't buy the device yet..., but I lived a similar process of illusion and progressive "back to reality" moments. I've been a VR user for 4 years (demos, gaming, movies, some development...) and I've been striving to find ways to integrate these devices into my work :(... The only reason I could have to buy a Vision Pro would be on the productivity side, but I see from the reviews and articles that the VisionOS is still too green (at least the Quest devices can end as fun toys without making me feel bad for my poor economic intelligence xD), as you mention, it is more an accessory right now..., I'd appreciate more integration with the MacOS, and some more PC SOs usability lessons implemented in the native interfaces.

  • @iron_recluse
    @iron_recluse Před 3 měsíci +1

    6:56 it’s funny that this video pops up as I decide to also box up my Vision Pro. I also strangely feel like I’m doing something wrong in returning it but at the end of day- it’s uncomfortable and redundant. By the end of the day my face is just rejecting having this even touch my cheekbones. When I return the Vision Pro my life doesn’t change at all as most of the things it can do I can already do with all the other Apple products and displays I have

  • @karlstenator
    @karlstenator Před 3 měsíci +1

    Breaking up with your Vision Pro 😂 How good does 4K back in your pocket feel? Now go. Find a rebound gal my dude.

  • @VictorYami
    @VictorYami Před 3 měsíci

    This is so sad man, and right before Valentine’s day :(

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci

      idk how i'm gonna survive this valentine's day tbh gonna cry all day

  • @Kevdog1920
    @Kevdog1920 Před 3 měsíci

    Interesting

  • @iamwillshepherd
    @iamwillshepherd Před 3 měsíci +2

    I’ve been thinking of doing the same. I’ve not been a fan of the developer experience and Apple doesn’t seem to respect their developers. Them charging $300 for the developer strap left a sour taste in my mouth. Especially now that I know I can’t use it for literally anything else.

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +2

      yeah it's a tough call. if i had unlimited money i'd 100% keep it. unfortunately i do not have unlimited money lol

    • @slob5041
      @slob5041 Před 3 měsíci

      @@YourAverageTechBroits worth the hype but not worth the price

    • @iamwillshepherd
      @iamwillshepherd Před 3 měsíci

      @@f8haus Yea, most aspects of their DX is a trainwreck. But they have the users who pay, so many devs and companies just tolerate it.

  • @kermit9120
    @kermit9120 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Hot take, everyone feels the same way about their vision pro, but most are past their 14 day return period 🤣

    • @iron_recluse
      @iron_recluse Před 3 měsíci +8

      ? They shouldn’t be it hasn’t been two weeks since release

    • @dualnon6643
      @dualnon6643 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It hasn’t even been out for 14 days

  • @paulrevere1479
    @paulrevere1479 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Your plan all along was to return it. You fake CZcamsrs are not fooling anyone

  • @DavidHelloWorld
    @DavidHelloWorld Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Vision Pro being a companion to my computer is just one of the reasons I enjoy using it. More so, I find myself doing the same casual things I'd do on my computer or phone on the AVP instead. CZcams, social media, gaming, news, Amazon... It's all easy and more enjoyable to do on AVP than other devices. Other devices feel like a downgrade compared to it. I think it's pretty clear that you enjoyed it too, based on how you felt conflicted about returning it. Wouldn't be surprised to see you with one after saving up some extra cash.

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci

      yeah there's definitely a chance that I get one again once I get the cash haha

  • @owomushi_vr
    @owomushi_vr Před 3 měsíci

    So you can do the same with a pico 4 and then use pico connect and it will connect to your Mac . 350 dollars

  • @dmadrecaps
    @dmadrecaps Před 3 měsíci +2

    i like your content ...very original, i don't like that you hate Flutter

  • @AP90x
    @AP90x Před 3 měsíci +1

    I made my CZcams hype videos to make my CZcams money and now its time to return this piece of sh’t. But let me make some additional money on a “why im returning it” video.

  • @jackmiddleton2080
    @jackmiddleton2080 Před 3 měsíci

    I heard you can use the meta to design for the vision.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay Před 3 měsíci

    You shouldn't have to be Hercules to wear the headset. 🙄

  • @Pew_Pew_Pizza
    @Pew_Pew_Pizza Před 3 měsíci

    I thought about it but I'll stick with the quest for now. More bang for your buck.

  • @samerhannah5530
    @samerhannah5530 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Just get a quest 3 I am dev and use quest 3 for dev build for quest 3 at 500$ so much digital goods

  • @Leto2ndAtreides
    @Leto2ndAtreides Před 3 měsíci

    Come on man... Use the future tech until you get a legit feel for it in the day to day, and start seeing the opportunities...

  • @relativityboy
    @relativityboy Před měsícem

    Or if you fly & code a lot.

  • @gabrieldesouza112
    @gabrieldesouza112 Před 3 měsíci

    You're the most honest reviwer doing this kind of video. Most of them is something like "VR is not the future, blah, blah, blah"

  • @karenmushatt3225
    @karenmushatt3225 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just say it was to much money for you

    • @YourAverageTechBro
      @YourAverageTechBro  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I mean if you watched until the end of the video I do call myself a broke boy so I kinda did say that

  • @sakenu16
    @sakenu16 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Because you did enough videos about this product hence now no more need and you don’t want to be holding a $3500 bag. You are like the people who try things on, wear the clothes with the tag and then return it all sweaty and nasty.

  • @andrewjedi
    @andrewjedi Před 3 měsíci

    Noooooo don’t return it!

  • @breeknow
    @breeknow Před 3 měsíci

    Only noobs are flabbergasted by it….

  • @TheNewBloodDan
    @TheNewBloodDan Před 3 měsíci

    Glad I'm not the only one who cares at repackaging stuff for a return seriously.

  • @AsifAnsari-nn8kk
    @AsifAnsari-nn8kk Před 3 měsíci

    Apple fan boi breaking out of Matrix. Top G would be proud.

  • @kokop1107
    @kokop1107 Před 3 měsíci

    Tbh just buy a quest 3 instead lol

  • @anderbeau
    @anderbeau Před 3 měsíci

    Kinda lame they only give you 14 days to return it… Apple is hoping most people will slip past the return period 😂

  • @jasonng8031
    @jasonng8031 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lame.