I love how people actually think bfv is broken, it’s a great game that was stunted from their shitty release fails. Now if only we could take the engine and give it to warzone devs
Is it a bad thing that almost every match I join in Al Sudan the Americans always manage to control over the air? I legit find only 1 other person flying in a bomber while the others are flying P51 fighters. Usually on the ground there is always one AA vehicle always watching the sky.
@@Niccaman Nice vid. I've recently quit bfv planes becaus of the unbalanced planes. G6 is really broken, and I just feel wrong about playing op planes.
Dice has already stated the P-51s high altitude package is bugged. It is supposed to be fixed in the next update, but that won't be for a while. That being said they need to give the Spitfire something to counter the 109s as well.
Yeah I hope they rather buff the other planes than nerf the G-6. It is strong, yes but I'd rather see the american planes be upgraded. Brits are fine. Honestly the Spitfire with 100000000 guns on it can destroy the G6 just fine.
They need to remove the upgrade entirely. It is the most unbalanced upgrade in the game and there is no counter to it unless you have the upgrade yourself. You are essentially immune in said flight ceiling and your enemies options are stall trying to challenge you or back off and let you get on their tail. I cannot believe DICE hasn’t addressed this exploit yet.
Talking bout a High altitude package and seeing 200 meters higher just actually makes me laugh. The FLight ceiling in bf5 is way too low anyways. bf3 had a way better map design in that regard.
@@why_does_this_matter370 You mean make it actually realistic and actually have aircraft performance factored in? In a Battlefield game? Psh who needs realism when we can make nonsensical decisions about how historical vehicles should operate.
It was great they added these new specs to the german planes while we were trying to level up the US planes. So you go up in a lvl 0 US mustang vs a buffed bf-109. GG Dice
This applies definitely in war thunder. German planes energy (energy meaning that the plane focuses more on something than anything else) is high altitude, well American planes energy is speed. also Japanese (and probably British) planes energy is maneuverability. I don't know if this will help you in battlefield, but it's worth the experiment.
That's it! The Niccaman video I wanted to see. Every piece of information is true, presented in a fun way, showing what you're describing in the background. 2.1k like for 28 dislike. No matter what the subject is, it's a fin great video. Didn't read the comments, I just hope your audience enjoyed it as much as i did. Btw added you on origin, just came back from vaccation. Last thing you didn't mentioned about the G6 with the HAP. Planes will dust all their shots when the G6 reach its ceiling (another broken mechanic we can had to that plane)
So happy a big name covered this topic. The 109 G-6 is so absurdly overpowered against any other aircraft on both the British and American factions. The only other aircraft that has a slim chance of countering it is the Mosquito Mk II, which also has the high altitude package. However, we all know that mosquitos are nowhere near as maneuverable as a 109.
@@youretrashmate8253 yep, on top of that the spitfire has the worse guns for combating enemy fighters. The only thing really going for the spitfire is it’s rockets which are good against everything.
Yeah I’ve been saying for a while the flight ceiling upgrade is broken. It feels as if there’s seamlessly no counter to it if you don’t have the upgrade for yourself.
The ridiculous fight: Sherman vs Tiger Greyhound vs Puma Both P-51 vs Bf-109 G-6 (the P-51k also have the climb upgrade but for some reason the german one is better...) Why did u do that, dice? Edit, The Bf-109 is overpowered vs the spitfire, no one can climb like the bf does XD
Well, what i usually do when im against HA users: i follow them up for like 2-3 secs then i just nose dive back (decouple pilot view is the best thing ever) and i start climbing again and meet the BF half way. This works like 90% of the times, specially cuz they spam smoke so they cant see that u actually stopped climbing with them.
My man back at those daily uploads literally RIGHT when I come back?? Bro I literally came back to battlefield last week and then all of a sudden you start positing again, and I’m a pilot player so i need you 😭
Thanks for bringing this to attention Nicca! There have been players abusing this exploit by camping the spawn and using high altitude giving everyone no chance...Advanced pilots and beginner pilots abusing this. British planes have no chance either since no added specialization for them when bf109 got more to compete with p51s.
BF109E-7 vs Mustang P51D Speed: BF109 359mph Mustang 437mph, Range: BF109 680 miles Mustang 851 miles, Ceiling: BF109 36,500 ft Mustang 41,900 ft. Nuff said. But it's Battlefield so never expect things to represent reality. Just like them turning Japanese tanks to something that resembles a Abrams M1A1 in speed and canon power and turning Sherman's into something that moves like a sloth and explodes if you breath near it. Or if your a PC player, just run a damage multiplier hack on your planes guns like many I've had to face since the BF5 release and of course never banned no matter how many times they're get reported. Don't get me started on this subject.... Niccaman, your a true legend and you've made me a better pilot. Thank you. Your content is always top stuff. You've taught me plenty of awesome habits like air dropping those mines on the Hamada tank spawn exits. Got the canons that way. Worked like a charm.... ;)
I met an amazing pilot on Fjell a long time ago who used the high altitude package on his BF109 and deliverd death with skill during our dog fights. The only pilot ive seen using this technique on xbox. I would take him down a few times when i came on his 6 but he would most of the time do this manuver and evade untill he was on my 6. I didnt adapt to this way of flying through the rest of my battlefield carer, even though it was a better dogfighting technique. Because I prefer a more balanced plane between attack and fighter. But fun to see that people are actually using this mannuver. Though not in this broken way though.
Yeah when I was playing earlier I had the high alt off and was using the weapon cooling upgrade on my G6 when the Mustang with a high alt started trying to use the flight ceiling to his advantage until I switched my upgrades and flew past him he decided he got got and crashed not letting me get the kill
P51-d, high altitude, air brakes. The only way that you can even stand a chance against this is assuming that you can get behind him. You can outstall him with the air brakes and keep up with him at high altitudes
to be honest .. it is a nice small realistic feature in the game. The germans and the soviets had a technic to solve the power drop in big high. They use piston engin´s with compressors. That combination allows them to fly even higher than the US or Brit-fighter. Yes it was unfair but it is a true fact that they have used here in BF .. and i have to say it .. i like it.
The reason they’re so powerful in war thunder is because generally speaking allied teams don’t use American aircraft for the purpose intended. The Bf109 has great energy retention which makes them a great energy fighter. I find a lot of allied pilots seem to always turn fight them in a P-47 completely bleeding their own energy.
Reason that 109's are so powerful in WT is because wehraboos own the game. They simply cannot comprehend a Spitfire beating a 109 so they winge and cry on reddit so Gaijin changes it. Same for their tanks too.
Yeah when I was playing earlier I had the high alt off and was using the weapon cooling upgrade on my G6 when the Mustang with a high alt started trying to use the flight ceiling to his advantage I switched my upgrades and flew past him he decided he got got and crashed not letting me get the kill
Realistically the P-51's service ceiling was so much higher than the bf-109's. I think with all the movies and shows promoting how powerful the p-51 was, Dice wanted to try and combat this. But it's absolutely hilarious when a bf-109 just dives down on a stalling p-51 and destroys it in two seconds.
I am sad about the firestorm flop. Also how easy it has become to fly an airplane and therefore the ground units were given a Fliegerfaust and the AA was reinforced. If flying had been made as difficult as in Battlefield 1942, there would have been no balance problems.
Specialization broken? Wow who would have thought that... I just hope we get some sort of indicator prior to stalling, not like right now from full - 0 speed in seconds.
Wasn't this said from literally the launch of the game, that the Spitfire would have better maneuverability but the BF109 would have a higher max altitude?
I once got chased by 4 BF 109s in my A 20 and I outclimbed them all except for 1 which had rockets installed. I only survived because of the sharp turns I was doing around the hills and mountains and because the game ended right as I was on 8 health.
I love your videos, I made my name miccaman in support to your channel! Keep up the amazing work, hopefully one day we may fight on the same battlefield,much love
nothing is broken, just *"German Engineering"*
German science is the finest
German Ingeeniring is the greatest in the world
Engineering*
chair Was*** the greatest in the world, Swiss got that honor now
@@Sauce_Sensei it’s an joke if you watch Jo-Jo you will get it
What u mean "something" is broken. Its BFV
xD
like .... Broken Field V ?
Ye ibwould guess cuz a lot of times when i spawn in the night fighter my game frezez and i need to wait 10 sec before going in third person
I love how people actually think bfv is broken, it’s a great game that was stunted from their shitty release fails. Now if only we could take the engine and give it to warzone devs
the BF109 is literally insane. USA has no chance in the air and on the ground in terms of tanks as well
You need 3 Shermans to kill a Tiger.
Corsair 3 I mean Tiger can two shot a Sherman
Edit: One shot
@@kaan5459 And one will be left and Brad Pitt will be in it.
Is it a bad thing that almost every match I join in Al Sudan the Americans always manage to control over the air? I legit find only 1 other person flying in a bomber while the others are flying P51 fighters. Usually on the ground there is always one AA vehicle always watching the sky.
Ik how to beat the BF109
I’m glad ur back to battlefield
Yeah the best vids👍
me too
I think we all are
Where was he before??
@@kennethshilingov9372 War Thunder, but Gaijin kinda put him on WEP so he "Burned his engine" imo
Im so happy that some youtubers stil upload btf5 videos! I love your content!
Glad you like them!
@@Niccaman Nice vid. I've recently quit bfv planes becaus of the unbalanced planes. G6 is really broken, and I just feel wrong about playing op planes.
Huh
@@talktorch6005 ah I see, a man of culture
@@dumbass6329Just play P-70.
you think THATS broken?
imagine the poor chaps in real life.
The P-51 actually did well in the Air in WWII, but this is a videogame, so
Gotobar 1313 it’s a video game based off of real life. I mean, Battlefield V isn’t exactly known for historical accuracy but you get the point.
I believe the P-51 had a higher ceiling than the BF-109.
CHAiRBORNE depends which models. Late models has about the same max alt
I don't think this is broken.
Just don't be an i##ot, who stall climbs for a Bf 109.
Dice has already stated the P-51s high altitude package is bugged. It is supposed to be fixed in the next update, but that won't be for a while. That being said they need to give the Spitfire something to counter the 109s as well.
Yeah I hope they rather buff the other planes than nerf the G-6. It is strong, yes but I'd rather see the american planes be upgraded. Brits are fine. Honestly the Spitfire with 100000000 guns on it can destroy the G6 just fine.
They need to remove the upgrade entirely. It is the most unbalanced upgrade in the game and there is no counter to it unless you have the upgrade yourself. You are essentially immune in said flight ceiling and your enemies options are stall trying to challenge you or back off and let you get on their tail. I cannot believe DICE hasn’t addressed this exploit yet.
Talking bout a High altitude package and seeing 200 meters higher just actually makes me laugh. The FLight ceiling in bf5 is way too low anyways. bf3 had a way better map design in that regard.
You know, instead of dealing with all of this why don't they make it speed based?
@@why_does_this_matter370 You mean make it actually realistic and actually have aircraft performance factored in? In a Battlefield game? Psh who needs realism when we can make nonsensical decisions about how historical vehicles should operate.
It was great they added these new specs to the german planes while we were trying to level up the US planes. So you go up in a lvl 0 US mustang vs a buffed bf-109. GG Dice
fishheadbreakroom go get four of your friends and open a server. I have a special way to upgrade planes
@@jerryluo7241 i have no friends :(
Pull out a AA tank and rule the land and sky lmao
Me: gets killed by clan tag pilot.
Also me: "were a tank at".
Would like to see Dice add readouts for altitude and speed in planes.
The bf109 with high altitude and rockets is the best plane set up
This applies definitely in war thunder. German planes energy (energy meaning that the plane focuses more on something than anything else) is high altitude, well American planes energy is speed. also Japanese (and probably British) planes energy is maneuverability. I don't know if this will help you in battlefield, but it's worth the experiment.
That's it! The Niccaman video I wanted to see. Every piece of information is true, presented in a fun way, showing what you're describing in the background. 2.1k like for 28 dislike. No matter what the subject is, it's a fin great video. Didn't read the comments, I just hope your audience enjoyed it as much as i did. Btw added you on origin, just came back from vaccation.
Last thing you didn't mentioned about the G6 with the HAP. Planes will dust all their shots when the G6 reach its ceiling (another broken mechanic we can had to that plane)
So happy a big name covered this topic. The 109 G-6 is so absurdly overpowered against any other aircraft on both the British and American factions. The only other aircraft that has a slim chance of countering it is the Mosquito Mk II, which also has the high altitude package. However, we all know that mosquitos are nowhere near as maneuverable as a 109.
I think spitfire VB has high altitude package but I haven’t tried it.
@@danlikespez1 nope, and it doesnt even have a quick repair either. It doesnt stand a chance against the 109
@@youretrashmate8253 yep, on top of that the spitfire has the worse guns for combating enemy fighters. The only thing really going for the spitfire is it’s rockets which are good against everything.
You shooting a plane down with classic music made it somewhat feel like a movie.
every times I see you post a new video im so freakin happy, love your vids, love you
Thx for keepin bfv alive. Hope u wont stop playin it!
I really miss these BFV videos. Hope you're well, and also that you find BFV fun enough again to upload more vids of it. Miss you Niccaman!
That's why I try to do a barrel roll while pulling down the throttle
Dice should take note for next game that a levelling system for vehicles, especially planes, is a shit idea
Yeah I’ve been saying for a while the flight ceiling upgrade is broken. It feels as if there’s seamlessly no counter to it if you don’t have the upgrade for yourself.
Another great and informative commentary . Pls keep them coming.
The ridiculous fight:
Sherman vs Tiger
Greyhound vs Puma
Both P-51 vs Bf-109 G-6 (the P-51k also have the climb upgrade but for some reason the german one is better...)
Why did u do that, dice?
Edit,
The Bf-109 is overpowered vs the spitfire, no one can climb like the bf does XD
because the Bf-109's are faster and have better climb rate. Its simple knowledge
Well, what i usually do when im against HA users: i follow them up for like 2-3 secs then i just nose dive back (decouple pilot view is the best thing ever) and i start climbing again and meet the BF half way. This works like 90% of the times, specially cuz they spam smoke so they cant see that u actually stopped climbing with them.
Thanks for uploading A LOT nicc! Keep it up man
@@rich_pig9703 thx
Yo, you got siege on Xbox? If so hit me up so we can do ranked
@@rich_pig9703 i don't sorry
Dice be like: not my problem anymore 🥱
A very nice put together video amazing
Great to see you back
My man back at those daily uploads literally RIGHT when I come back?? Bro I literally came back to battlefield last week and then all of a sudden you start positing again, and I’m a pilot player so i need you 😭
Great to see you back on BFV
Imo high altitude pack is a pretty bs upgrade, i just usually go for bigger bombs and upgrades that are good AT and AI
@Gary 'Roach' Sanderson for me it never served a purpose
@@heartaline5521 It serves a purpose if you're a dogfighter.
@@300zxsailor i keep it low and close to the ground and make the guy hit the ground most of the time,
@@heartaline5521 I prefer the stall and flip tactic. Opens up the opponent for a easy rocket shot.
Nicca I love ur videos and you have helped me get so much better at battlefield thank u so much
That ending when it cut to black was amazing
The tactic is called Boom and Zoom, the plane was made to go high altitudes and then careening forth back towards the earth.
The g 6 is a good plane that has good energy retention and good power to weight ratio
I'm waiting for BF6 planes and Niccaman to own the skies once again
God video dude keep it up! Glad your back
This explains a lot. Had no idea about the altitude glitch. However, the g-6 is a goddamn monster regardless. It’s pretty much untouchable.
That opening clip was insane
niccaman comes out with another BANGER
I was playing bf5 and the wirblewind with the OST wind upgrade absolutely destroyed my p51k
When it comes out, Star Wars squadrons is a game I would love to see you play in the future! :)
Thanks for bringing this to attention Nicca! There have been players abusing this exploit by camping the spawn and using high altitude giving everyone no chance...Advanced pilots and beginner pilots abusing this. British planes have no chance either since no added specialization for them when bf109 got more to compete with p51s.
Today i used the bf109 and a enemy P-51 spawned infront me i fired rockets right away and killed them. That plane is seriously to O.P
Yes I’ve been insta killed by bf109 rockets being at 100 health
Dang I overslept and didn't get to watch it when it just came out
I don't even have bf but I still love watching your videos lol.
Glad to see some more Bfv content from you nicca!👍
BF109E-7 vs Mustang P51D
Speed: BF109 359mph Mustang 437mph, Range: BF109 680 miles Mustang 851 miles, Ceiling: BF109 36,500 ft Mustang 41,900 ft.
Nuff said. But it's Battlefield so never expect things to represent reality. Just like them turning Japanese tanks to something that resembles a Abrams M1A1 in speed and canon power and turning Sherman's into something that moves like a sloth and explodes if you breath near it.
Or if your a PC player, just run a damage multiplier hack on your planes guns like many I've had to face since the BF5 release and of course never banned no matter how many times they're get reported. Don't get me started on this subject....
Niccaman, your a true legend and you've made me a better pilot. Thank you. Your content is always top stuff. You've taught me plenty of awesome habits like air dropping those mines on the Hamada tank spawn exits. Got the canons that way. Worked like a charm.... ;)
I met an amazing pilot on Fjell a long time ago who used the high altitude package on his BF109 and deliverd death with skill during our dog fights. The only pilot ive seen using this technique on xbox. I would take him down a few times when i came on his 6 but he would most of the time do this manuver and evade untill he was on my 6.
I didnt adapt to this way of flying through the rest of my battlefield carer, even though it was a better dogfighting technique. Because I prefer a more balanced plane between attack and fighter. But fun to see that people are actually using this mannuver. Though not in this broken way though.
Yeah when I was playing earlier I had the high alt off and was using the weapon cooling upgrade on my G6 when the Mustang with a high alt started trying to use the flight ceiling to his advantage until I switched my upgrades and flew past him he decided he got got and crashed not letting me get the kill
If you’re running the supercharger it helps with your height ceiling
Yes thanks for the uploads
Thanks nicca!
I love the classic music
The energy trap be real with that thing
Specialisation, for the BF109 extra high going up 200 meter.
P51-d, high altitude, air brakes. The only way that you can even stand a chance against this is assuming that you can get behind him. You can outstall him with the air brakes and keep up with him at high altitudes
This is honestly one of your top funniest videos lmao
8:32 "Don't be sad guys" this did not age well....
Don’t even play the bf5 anymore, don’t watch any videos about it. But can’t resist watching you flying :)
imagine stalling at a certain altitude instead of a certain speed.
this post was made by Warthunder gang
Know this would happens.
LETS GO BATTLEFIELD V
That ending was well edited hahaha
to be honest .. it is a nice small realistic feature in the game. The germans and the soviets had a technic to solve the power drop in big high. They use piston engin´s with compressors. That combination allows them to fly even higher than the US or Brit-fighter. Yes it was unfair but it is a true fact that they have used here in BF .. and i have to say it .. i like it.
This editing... Amazing.
I feel bad that you tried something new and suffered a lot for it. I liked your awesome vids man
6:56 You did have bombs which supposedly made your P-51K Heavier than the Bf109G6
Bf109 always is op if its historical accurate same goes for War Thunder i guess in Battlefield to
Although, Spitfires could outturn BF109’s. The 109’s were famous for being “Dive fighters”
The reason they’re so powerful in war thunder is because generally speaking allied teams don’t use American aircraft for the purpose intended. The Bf109 has great energy retention which makes them a great energy fighter. I find a lot of allied pilots seem to always turn fight them in a P-47 completely bleeding their own energy.
Reason that 109's are so powerful in WT is because wehraboos own the game. They simply cannot comprehend a Spitfire beating a 109 so they winge and cry on reddit so Gaijin changes it. Same for their tanks too.
@@norfangl3480 bf 109s lose to spitfires all the time in wt
7:38 BF109 G6 has engine supercharger :)
Yeah when I was playing earlier I had the high alt off and was using the weapon cooling upgrade on my G6 when the Mustang with a high alt started trying to use the flight ceiling to his advantage I switched my upgrades and flew past him he decided he got got and crashed not letting me get the kill
First Time? As a war thunder player this happens on a semi regular basis.
The secret to winning a dogfight is to listen to classical music while you're unloading your MG's
Baker street
I can recommend "Der mächtigste König im Luftrevier" and "Bomben auf Engeland"
It's called a hammerhead, it was actually a pretty commonly used maneuver irl
Since you got that red and gray paint on the g-6, it doesn't show up in Mexico.
ive been trying to figure out how to get that
Not even science could figure out the power of that plane
I still like watching this game, no interest in playing it but love watching someone that's good play.
It doesn’t matter what shape the plane is,matter how you control flow of it
I'm going to download all my battlefield games again and play all night so excited
This is a slight disadvantage if you're chasing someone, but you can use it as an advantage over it by stalling out when someone is on your tail.
Should be the other way around the p51 was designed for high altitude fighter support
Flying tip to have more movability in the air, go to gameplay advanced turn off plane camera chase
But it depends as well on your preference
You mean plane camera chase roll? That's the only option I see.
Realistically the P-51's service ceiling was so much higher than the bf-109's. I think with all the movies and shows promoting how powerful the p-51 was, Dice wanted to try and combat this. But it's absolutely hilarious when a bf-109 just dives down on a stalling p-51 and destroys it in two seconds.
This video was actually so well made. The ending 😂
I am sad about the firestorm flop. Also how easy it has become to fly an airplane and therefore the ground units were given a Fliegerfaust and the AA was reinforced. If flying had been made as difficult as in Battlefield 1942, there would have been no balance problems.
What u are seeing is an energy trap it is commonly used as a very advanced tactic that pilots used in that era. So what u are seeing is realistic
4:05 because its a Bf-109, it has more power. The P-51 can outturn the Bf-109, so its fair (and realistic) that the Bf-109 can out climb the P-51
Different planes have different height ceiling in real life.
Specialization broken? Wow who would have thought that...
I just hope we get some sort of indicator prior to stalling, not like right now from full - 0 speed in seconds.
Critical speed! Push nose down!
I never know what way to look at these vids when you’re turning around 🙃
Niccaman I think your the best pilot, I wish I could be like you but I can barely become a plane
Skywalker games is a pretty good pilot. He has tutorials for BFV, BF3, BF4, BF1, and even Battlefront for pilots!
best? in what sense? Exposing things that are broken and making a video ?
This problem is not only for the American team but also for the British team, not one of the 2 spitfires has the High altitide availible
Funnily enough, the BF109 in real life has a turning advantage at higher altitudes in the air from what I can remember.
Biggest fan from Greece!!!
Wasn't this said from literally the launch of the game, that the Spitfire would have better maneuverability but the BF109 would have a higher max altitude?
Bf109 g6 has added improved turning specialization added in last update, plus nitrous, plus high altitude
I once got chased by 4 BF 109s in my A 20 and I outclimbed them all except for 1 which had rockets installed. I only survived because of the sharp turns I was doing around the hills and mountains and because the game ended right as I was on 8 health.
And yes it had the high altitude package and was fully upgraded.
So glad ur back b
Also the turbo charge perk will push you higher
8:32
That Comment and Music that follows... 🤣🤣🤣
Der Volle Stube
Trabant 33
I love your videos, I made my name miccaman in support to your channel! Keep up the amazing work, hopefully one day we may fight on the same battlefield,much love
IDF stands for isreal defence force but then when you said i dont fight i laughed so hard
fun fact: the german bf109 rockets are called WFR.GR.21
Love your videos