I believe I have the solution for you. Basically as the gas fill valve is at the top of the mag there is a possibility to over fill the mag with gas and the first shots you're firing are pulling more liquid gas though the system than vaporised gas, thus leading to the under performance. I bet gas plumes out too, especially around the ejection port, and this will lead to the freezing of the nozzle as you highlighted. I'd suggest try filling a mag from empty with 8 seconds of gas and see if you get the same issue, I really think this would fix it. then you can test a bit by trying 10 seconds and then 12 to find the balance between gas in the mag and first shot performance. Im usually happy if I can get 2 mags of BB's to 1 fill of gas and 100% performance levels.
Absolute legend man!!! Appreciate this comment!!!! And I'm sending my best wishes to!!! Enjoy yourself mate! You've taught me alot! Once again Appreciate you dude!!!
@@bbcarty Thank you. I had another chemo session earlier today and im waiting on CT scan results to see if the chemo is doing anything, nervous times so I really appreciate your comment. You've got some really great content, keep up the great videos!
Hey man! I've just purchased the same GBBR as you ( Double Eagle, not the Cyma ). Here's a list of things to keep in mind regarding the magazine: -Any other magazines than the GUNSMODIFY ones sit lower so the loading arm of the nozzle goes over the feeding lips causing it to literally ram into the hop unit, which might BREAK your nozzle over time -Magwell is also a bit wider than on the TM MWS and the reason could be that the stock magazine is copied from the GunsModify mags originally -If you want to keep using the stock mag ( not recommended ), upgrade the follower spring as well as the gas router -DON'T attempt to use the G&P 40 rounders or other speciality mags as they have the same exact issues as I've described above -DON'T get TM magazines -Obviously, buy the GUNSMODIFY mags -You don't necessarily need HPA to make it run fine If you want further advice just reply in the comments and I'll be here to help ya. Have a nice day!
No problem!:) If you have the budget an aluminium buffer with washers in the end of the buffer tube ( aftermarket buffers tend to be shorter causing them to slam into the receiver, hence why you need spacing ) might help with both bolt bounce.
Also, my recommendation for a heavier buffer if you opt to use one would be the version 1 of the G&P aluminium buffer. The grey one. Unfortunately the gold colored version 2 doesn't fit the TM spec buffer tubes.
I’m thinking of buying the n4 mws but before I do I was looking up some cons and keeping coming across the mags if I was to get the H&M buffer would that allow me to use the n4’s reliably? Or are the n4’s mags just a no go?
Got this gun for about a year, had the same issue which turned out to be caused by build up of silicone grease on hop up bucking. Cleaning it and switching to a "dry" gas fixed that for me.
Hi man!!! Finally got it down to a great performing gun now!!! Changing the mags was massive for me mate! 😀 thank you so much for commenting though dude your a legend!!!!
@@bbcarty Awesome you got it figured out. For the stock DE mags you might consider swapping gas route to a stock marui ones. Heard it gets gas efficiency to a TM level
I've got the AIRTAC UK HPA mag well adaptor... basically using the adaptor I can use AEG mags EPM1s just waiting for a shotshell adaptor to run CYMA shotgun shells... not only the Noveske but my Hi Capa, AAP, King Arms AR9 and a WE SVD GBBR sniper rifle all using CYMA shells.
It's either your hop up or a dirty inner barrel, had the same problem with my GHK AK I own the noveske MWS and The only problems with mags I have encountered are some leaks which are easy to fix Edit: I spilled leaks as weeks lmao
Mags sit in your vest or pockets lips down so liquid gas is just chillin in your gas release valve area, so first couple of shots are stupid cold. Are those gas fill valves silent fill or like TM valves that bleed air out the mags when filling? If they're bleed out valves then you will get a hell of a lot of liquid in the mags when filling which is good for shot count, but will leave little room for gas expansion - tilt the mag down so slightly to reduce fill level. And remember, there's never any objectives, every game is TDM
DE and Cyma/T8 make MWS system rifles, and have some problems with a compatibility. Cyma/T8 lancer mags in room temp explodes if you fill with black nimrod xD. That's why i recommend VFC/GHK/GE or WE if you have a special offers. This guns like Black Gas.
@@bbcarty aww really? I ordered 3 extra with my de MWS and then when I got it, I ordered 3 more, so 7 in total.. and now I gotta order 7 tm mags to avoid the double feed
For me mine wont even fill. It worked for maybe 15 rounds but after that. It wont let anygas sthrough the valve. Ive tried my othermags and they work. Ive tried different cans and still nothing.
I believe I have the solution for you. Basically as the gas fill valve is at the top of the mag there is a possibility to over fill the mag with gas and the first shots you're firing are pulling more liquid gas though the system than vaporised gas, thus leading to the under performance. I bet gas plumes out too, especially around the ejection port, and this will lead to the freezing of the nozzle as you highlighted. I'd suggest try filling a mag from empty with 8 seconds of gas and see if you get the same issue, I really think this would fix it. then you can test a bit by trying 10 seconds and then 12 to find the balance between gas in the mag and first shot performance. Im usually happy if I can get 2 mags of BB's to 1 fill of gas and 100% performance levels.
Absolute legend man!!! Appreciate this comment!!!! And I'm sending my best wishes to!!! Enjoy yourself mate! You've taught me alot! Once again Appreciate you dude!!!
@@bbcarty Thank you. I had another chemo session earlier today and im waiting on CT scan results to see if the chemo is doing anything, nervous times so I really appreciate your comment. You've got some really great content, keep up the great videos!
@OllieTalksAirsoft keep strong my man!!! 😀
Hey man!
I've just purchased the same GBBR as you ( Double Eagle, not the Cyma ). Here's a list of things to keep in mind regarding the magazine:
-Any other magazines than the GUNSMODIFY ones sit lower so the loading arm of the nozzle goes over the feeding lips causing it to literally ram into the hop unit, which might BREAK your nozzle over time
-Magwell is also a bit wider than on the TM MWS and the reason could be that the stock magazine is copied from the GunsModify mags originally
-If you want to keep using the stock mag ( not recommended ), upgrade the follower spring as well as the gas router
-DON'T attempt to use the G&P 40 rounders or other speciality mags as they have the same exact issues as I've described above
-DON'T get TM magazines
-Obviously, buy the GUNSMODIFY mags
-You don't necessarily need HPA to make it run fine
If you want further advice just reply in the comments and I'll be here to help ya. Have a nice day!
Mate this is brilliant thank you so much!!! Really appreciate it my man!!!! Thank you!
No problem!:) If you have the budget an aluminium buffer with washers in the end of the buffer tube ( aftermarket buffers tend to be shorter causing them to slam into the receiver, hence why you need spacing ) might help with both bolt bounce.
Also, my recommendation for a heavier buffer if you opt to use one would be the version 1 of the G&P aluminium buffer. The grey one. Unfortunately the gold colored version 2 doesn't fit the TM spec buffer tubes.
I’m thinking of buying the n4 mws but before I do I was looking up some cons and keeping coming across the mags if I was to get the H&M buffer would that allow me to use the n4’s reliably? Or are the n4’s mags just a no go?
Buffers won't help with magazines as the original problem is that the rifle's magwell is too wide. Just use gunsmodify mags.
Love the little buddies 😎🫶 love this series!!!
Come on!!
Got this gun for about a year, had the same issue which turned out to be caused by build up of silicone grease on hop up bucking. Cleaning it and switching to a "dry" gas fixed that for me.
Hi man!!! Finally got it down to a great performing gun now!!! Changing the mags was massive for me mate! 😀 thank you so much for commenting though dude your a legend!!!!
@@bbcarty Awesome you got it figured out. For the stock DE mags you might consider swapping gas route to a stock marui ones. Heard it gets gas efficiency to a TM level
I've got the AIRTAC UK HPA mag well adaptor... basically using the adaptor I can use AEG mags EPM1s just waiting for a shotshell adaptor to run CYMA shotgun shells... not only the Noveske but my Hi Capa, AAP, King Arms AR9 and a WE SVD GBBR sniper rifle all using CYMA shells.
Nice man!!! That's a set up right there 👏
Lil' shnuggul. Lil' shlippuhz.😂
I was definitely comfy
It's either your hop up or a dirty inner barrel, had the same problem with my GHK AK
I own the noveske MWS and The only problems with mags I have encountered are some leaks which are easy to fix
Edit: I spilled leaks as weeks lmao
Hmmmm mate thanks for this!!! I will give it a good clean!
Mags sit in your vest or pockets lips down so liquid gas is just chillin in your gas release valve area, so first couple of shots are stupid cold. Are those gas fill valves silent fill or like TM valves that bleed air out the mags when filling? If they're bleed out valves then you will get a hell of a lot of liquid in the mags when filling which is good for shot count, but will leave little room for gas expansion - tilt the mag down so slightly to reduce fill level. And remember, there's never any objectives, every game is TDM
Fully and I mean fully respect this comment man! Thank you!!! Especially the end part 🤣🤣🤣
@bbcarty we played at TheGaol for the Chairsofter event together, that was the theme of the day 🤣🤣
@@GrayFoxAirsoft every objective is TDM shun!!!!!
Yep replace the route i heard same issue most de Noveske user recommended gun modify p-mags over the mws mag hope that helpful
Modify p mags might be the one!!! Maybe i should change the route then my man!!! Thank you so much for the comment
Come on with the get up!
what gas are you running through it? Id suggest the Guns Modify Pmags, i run those and have no issues!
Red and black at the moment my man 😊
What gas you buying for your GM Pmags? the fill valve is so sunken in the nozzle on abbey gas didn’t reach the valve to fill.
@@The12miller this I'd the kind of thing we need to know man!!! Great comment
DE and Cyma/T8 make MWS system rifles, and have some problems with a compatibility. Cyma/T8 lancer mags in room temp explodes if you fill with black nimrod xD. That's why i recommend VFC/GHK/GE or WE if you have a special offers. This guns like Black Gas.
And fun thing, you can make mod for GE to fit VFC mags.
Nice man!!! This is a DE I use mate with TM mags and works really well now 👍 thanks for the comment my man!!!
@@bbcartydid u sort it out? I got the same issue with my DE MWS
@@chrisbrink8264 tm mags mate
@@bbcarty aww really? I ordered 3 extra with my de MWS and then when I got it, I ordered 3 more, so 7 in total.. and now I gotta order 7 tm mags to avoid the double feed
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For me mine wont even fill. It worked for maybe 15 rounds but after that. It wont let anygas sthrough the valve. Ive tried my othermags and they work. Ive tried different cans and still nothing.
Thats really really strange!!! I must admit I have gone over to standard tm mags and they seem to work alot better
@bbcarty yah I bought a tm stanag and it works.
When I tried to fill it it didn't immediately hiss. But when I lift up it shoots the bottle up and doesn't hold the gas.
@@musicalwolf5481 same man!!!
You love my get up
@bbcarty are those TM works fine for you?
No broken nozzle or something?
Thnk you!
@@davidsarafi9624 so far mate no broken nozzles
Maybe your just putting to much gas into it so liquid gas spills out?
I actually thought this tbh!