Seraphina is broken asf, the only way to beat her is to break through time, don't even know if that's possible in the world of unordinary, also the latest chapter, proved john was always right, these people have to get packed up for what they did to him 😈
Sera is op but John has bs potential man’s didn’t use his ability for 2 years when you actively use the ability it gets a ton stronger example young arlo before he was king his level increased a lot blyke is now a high tier and young John ability level went from non-existent to God tier ( level 7) within 2-3 years to be fair Claire probably helped a lot because they understood the concept immediately but as we saw from blyke and arlo when blyke saw John use his ability he understood how it worked but couldn’t manifest it same with arlo when his aunt showed her use of his ability
There is a few other ways tbf. If someone can mess with her aura like with spectre tech or maybe John and his mom if their abilities get to that point. Or an ability to mind control her before she has a chance.
@@Player-7534 yes either by having an ability that effects time and being able to overpower her. An ability that manipulates aura to a degree they can mess with the abilities of others with it or potentially an ability like gravity manipulation since when used to a high degree gravity can mess with the flow of time as seen with things like black holes
Yeah and following this concept of as he uses his ability he gets a higher power and we saw that Jane John’s mom had the same ability and with 9.1 so maybe John will go to this extent
He also has a physical enchantment on his own there is no thought that he at the lowest 8.0 He know has other high tiers passive when he copy’s them he also has better amps apparently he’s 8+ no question
@@Chaoskingdonovan yeahh, unfortunately Uru Chan decided she didnt want his growth to be that quick and only uncreased his power by .1 😅 But Im sure that will change over the season’s break :)
Bro didn't used his ability for 2 years and when used defeated all royals if he would have trained his ability every single day who knows what level would he be right now💀
@@reizysu I don't think the comment means just seraphina, she's not the only character, new Bostin john still solos most of the other characters in unordinary lol, but seraphina has a better hax, so she will always come out on top lol
@@justsomeguywithamustache2901some new characters will disagree Jane Johns uncle and heck John is probably getting a huge boost in power soon after all he will meet his uncle and learn a thing or two about his own ability
@@michaelseiji7314 there actually many way to defeat seraphina, and yes John is definitely gonna get stronger,, and there other characters that have a higher rank, but the point I'm making is that seraphina has the strongest hax so far in unordinary, if she gets stronger and learns to stop time for hours, she can literally one shot alot of powerful characters in unordinary, but that's only if she gets stronger
You guys do realised John Vs seraphina John was made sure by uru chan to not use seras Time manipulation since he will be overpowered with time manipulation and 3 other abilities. She had to beef him inorder to fight seraphina. Think people real broke. Person is John and his family as they have access to any ability
@@TheEndless935 Considering the words I'm assuming you mean orrin or the authorities did something (possibly to seraphina or john's dad) and now john is gonna be needing a training arc so he can pack up every authority or underling of orrin.
the fight is all about if John is able to to copy the time manipulation ability before hand or not. if not, its basically over. but if he was able to copy the ability first, its no contest, John will win 100%. he is just a better at manipulating power, and even without power, he win in physical regardless.
@@thesage7314 that is debatable. john energy manipulator allowed him to use even the advance version of the ability he copied. just like how he can use other people ability the way they didnt even think of using it yet. so if anything, he can use a more advance time manipulator ability that we dont even know yet.
Do john vs valerie also lowkey john mightve leveled up bc in latest chapt he punched the wall and madc a huge crack he mustve had a ability in hand for that but he didnt copy it from anyone around so maybe he can retain them after depowering
I mean if full potential John kinda takes this no diff, you see when John goes berserk? Sera kinda got nothing on him at all until he go full defensive mode and Sera can finally do free hits to pull him out.
I don't know why people are saying this is facts because once John copies her ability he can amp it and then it's game over for seraphina so I really don't see how all of you think that sera would beat John because she wouldn't (my opinion if you don't agree you don't agree(
I don’t see your point, it’s still unclear whether John can in fact copy her ability yet. Even more than that, even if he could, his level is 7.5 and hers is 8.0, He can’t amp a higher level ability. It was confirmed to be true when he challenged Zirian(New Bostons King at the time), John despite copying his ability was only a 3.0 and Zirian was 3.7, and Zirian won. No offense but try to pay more attention to how Johns ability works.
@@Urek2766are you stupid?, John can copy someone's ability as soon as it activates because he changes his aura to mach there's he can't only copy physical abilities, like are you actually stupid?, pay attention to the webtoon before you go saying stupid things
John can copy any techniques he wants except for the mental abilities he doesn't need to see it he can manipulate it's aura and copy it just like isen's ability also his level 7.5 on his basic form (no ability copied) cuz in every fight it Shows his lvl stats always is question mark he can copy any techniques and amp it whatever was the ability user lvl that's just soo dumb.
John wins if he can copy one ability beforehand. He knows against sera he won’t be able to copy her without taking a solid hit or two so most likely he will go all defense. If she leaves a single opening, she doneee. If she somehow manages to one shot, then danm
This is actually extremely close I would say John purely if you think john can copy a slightly weaker time minipulation if not then sera extreme diff she coming out this fig HR heavily injured
And also John is 7.5, sera is 8 and John mom Jane is at 9.1 in power. That means John has more potential in him. And also have you seen the latest chapter
@@kaicraft275 guys I know I’m going off what he had in his past prime at the peak that we saw him it doesn’t matter what future him can do it matters what John could do before that’s the only John I’m looking at all do I have no doubt John can fold her later on in the story scene the child always surpasses there parent at least in unordinary
@@kaicraft275 he trained even after new Boston by storing his aura and learning to store more abilities and to amp them better at first at least it also increased do to physical mastery of his body Recently I’m pretty sure he’s close to 8.0 do because he said himself after recovering it his body learned to give basic physical enhancements on its own without something to copy along with his aura sense getting stronger this is clear signs of growth in ability also his beams seem stronger
You mean a 1 sided massacre with our favorite being stronger against a kinda mid person we dislike ye I’d also want to see that I mean Keon was doing his job but torturing a random 16yr old isn’t something that should happen
Será wins. She’s a higher level and John’s not gonna have 4 abilities with everyone he fight so in a 1v1 time manipulation vs time manipulation sera stomps
Oh Kangwoo (Player who returned 10000 Years Later Manhwa) VS Kim Hyuen Woo (Advaced Player of the Tutorial Tower Manhwa) I am really eager to see who wins ngl
@@TheEndless935 Based on Chapter 65 of Player Who Returned 10000 Years Later (Chapter 66 aint loading for me), I would say Kang Woo takes Hax, Experience, FSIQ, Battle IQ and everything else goes to Hyeonu. That is what I think for now
He can copy people's ability and make the ability stronger.How does he lose plus to speed and the haxs?Gotta go to him.Also the powers go to him he can copy ability She won because her is more than one and his mental health was not good.
Thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard. You realize she couldn’t go all out either because she was warned not to do so. When she did go all out for an attack she broke threw his barrier. Also he was tryna hurt her or else she wouldn’t have needed to dodge 💀
@@GyatMachine-zi1vm John has fought Arlo twice and each time, he struck arlos barrier, he only cracked it, not completely destroyed it. Sera easily takes AP
well the only issue is that jhon is insta win 1v1, it can copy any ability+boost it to the max and even maybe later buff it!! + it can have many ability at once so he can't loose a 1v1
@@megaloshark4700 and that right there is what almost everyone DOESN’T understand about Johns ability. His level is a 7.6, he can’t amplify an ability that’s of a higher level like Seraphina’s 8.0, his ability amplification caps at 7.6
@@raven5048 she didn’t both weren’t even trying to hurt eachother john was just trying to push her away from him joker version would of slammed her in a fight steal her ability most likely
@@Zaki_editz he was also at max amount of powers taken .. she was able to break through his barrier and get to him. She wasn't trying to hurt him but was trying to get to him.. since she is stronger she was the only one able to get to him
@@raven5048 I disagree, I don't think John has a skill limit, I think he has a limited number of skills he can use at a time, but I don't know if he can copy Sera, since he needs to see to copy, but I think he can. , as Seraphina's power is a bit visual.
@@tiopualperfect2493 it was stated a few times even by John himself he can hold 4... and when his power was dampened he said only room for 2 auras .. I am just stating what the webtoon has offered
@@Daniel-xn6vw actually read the series, John can’t defeat someone of a higher level. As it was proven when he lost to Zirian, someone who John had copied his ability and yet still lost. John is still a 7.5 while Seraphina is 8.0. John is losing the fight.
@@TheEndless935i really doubt he is 7.5. Sera has been training all her life to get to 8.0 John climbed 7.5 in just a few years. Especially since he has passive enhancements, now, it is clear he is significantly stronger than he was
Don’t think so… he mostly can copy abilities that affect some kind of physical component. Also extremely high level abilities are difficult for him as well. So since stuff like clairvoyance and time manipulation aren’t really physical and at least one of those is considered super high tier. Take that with a grain of salt, no expert, I could be wrong!
@@PleaseExitHere but he copied isen eye detectors, i think he can copy time man if he see how seraphina rewind time for herself, imagine if situation will be so bad, that John will copy the time manipulation and return everything 1-2 days back
One thing I had John wins that fight with no problem unless you're going by what happened in the story even then he was in a mentally weakened State of mind he was but you take that away he wins no problem so please wake up
No, it’s unclear whether he can in fact copy Seraphinas ability, even if he could, she would still be faster than him because she’s a higher level with an 8.0 and John is a 7.5, he can’t amplify a higher level ability. Even when Seraphina fought John, she also wasn’t 100% due to her being dizzy during the fight caused by her treatment. Please pay attention to how Johns ability actually work.
@@TheEndless935AHAHAH bro, nah, John is by far one of the best characters in any webtoon combined. He has an incredible mentality, a huge charisma, a pure and hard will. His past hardened him, and he was quite right to fuck the whole system with his ability. Even if Seraphina seems « stronger » because he cannot copy his power, remember that he can not only copy almost all existing abilities, and increase them. You will never be able to debate the fact that John > unordinary, because he is by far the best character in existence😹🙏🏼
@@lou_sano 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ John 1st year in highschool lost to New Bostons King when he was a 3.0, he had his ability copied yet still lost to a 3.7, that already proves that he can’t beat anyone who’s ability level is higher. Stop overreacting the fuck out of John until he gets his level up to a 15 or higher, then that’s when he can truly solo his verse. 8.0>>>>>>>>>>7.5, cry about it🤡
@@TheEndless935 You will always find something to say about John, we can see how it turns this jacket since the last chapters (those that date back to two years ago) it’s desperate. But wait until John has a super high level and we’ll see what you say by then 🙏🏼 AND IM NOT EXCESSIVE ABOUT HIM, it’s just I read Unordinary since 2016 and I can’t say « John he’s inferior blah blah.. » after all hotter moments we caned seeing. ( sry if my English isn’t perfect. I hope you understand my text💀)
I say IQ and Intelligence goes to John. This dude is mad smart when he's not an emotional mess
Na verdade ele so é bom em questão de lutas, pq ele não é inteligência como a Seraphina
You can argu intelligence(though I do think sera is smarter) but john definitely loses in iq
Biq
Theres a difference between battle IQ and normal IQ. Seras BIQ is worse than John, but shes smarter than him
@@ayblinkn1809 exactly
Seraphina is broken asf, the only way to beat her is to break through time, don't even know if that's possible in the world of unordinary, also the latest chapter, proved john was always right, these people have to get packed up for what they did to him 😈
Sera is op but John has bs potential man’s didn’t use his ability for 2 years when you actively use the ability it gets a ton stronger example young arlo before he was king his level increased a lot blyke is now a high tier and young John ability level went from non-existent to God tier ( level 7) within 2-3 years to be fair Claire probably helped a lot because they understood the concept immediately but as we saw from blyke and arlo when blyke saw John use his ability he understood how it worked but couldn’t manifest it same with arlo when his aunt showed her use of his ability
There is a few other ways tbf. If someone can mess with her aura like with spectre tech or maybe John and his mom if their abilities get to that point. Or an ability to mind control her before she has a chance.
It is possible to break through time stop, like seraphina did to his mom as i remember
@@Player-7534 yes either by having an ability that effects time and being able to overpower her. An ability that manipulates aura to a degree they can mess with the abilities of others with it or potentially an ability like gravity manipulation since when used to a high degree gravity can mess with the flow of time as seen with things like black holes
Yeah and following this concept of as he uses his ability he gets a higher power and we saw that Jane John’s mom had the same ability and with 9.1 so maybe John will go to this extent
From the latest chapter as of now, john can also copy their innate passive which is also broken but from the looks of it, he can amp the passive
He's amped now
John doesn't have to copy to amp
Now ,his aura channels can now amp
He also has a physical enchantment on his own there is no thought that he at the lowest 8.0
He know has other high tiers passive when he copy’s them he also has better amps apparently he’s 8+ no question
@@Chaoskingdonovan yeahh, unfortunately Uru Chan decided she didnt want his growth to be that quick and only uncreased his power by .1 😅
But Im sure that will change over the season’s break :)
Bro didn't used his ability for 2 years and when used defeated all royals if he would have trained his ability every single day who knows what level would he be right now💀
I want joker 2.0 to appear after the latest chapter😢
Bro the latest chapter rn is so fire bro John’s on demon timing
@@AnthonySiordia-hg4ls thanks man I'll get some popcorn to watch John beat there a**
@@sundesto8523 naw cuz fr im a lil mad I caught up because in a few chapters we’re gonna see him kick sum asss
@@AnthonySiordia-hg4ls ikr I should've waited luckily its Wednesday so I'm just waiting.
@@sundesto8523 these next few chapters finna be fire tho so at least sum good finna happen
Unless Sera can one shot John then maybe she can really win or else John would just copy her ability.
Seraphina's ability can't be seen, so it can't be copied
@@salikhat1256 he doesn’t need to physically see the ability he can read it’s aura
@@salikhat1256 if he could manipulate it's Aura he can copy it his ability is also called shadow King for a reason
@@salikhat1256 he copied isen's ability which also can't be seen lol
my guess is he cant copy it as he doesn't copy it in the series
Ngl Hax definitely goes to John, bro can copy almost all abilities in the show
And he's not limited to copying "one" ability either.
John can’t copy seraphina’s time skip
@@TheSilentEntry that’s why i said almost
@@TheSilentEntry not yet
@@TheSilentEntry Has he even tried?
You gotta do new Bostin john vs joker john, or maybe new Bostin john vs the other characters in general, because john was already 7.0 by then 😂😂
seraphina was also a 7
@@reizysu I don't think the comment means just seraphina, she's not the only character, new Bostin john still solos most of the other characters in unordinary lol, but seraphina has a better hax, so she will always come out on top lol
@@justsomeguywithamustache2901some new characters will disagree Jane Johns uncle and heck John is probably getting a huge boost in power soon after all he will meet his uncle and learn a thing or two about his own ability
@@michaelseiji7314 there actually many way to defeat seraphina, and yes John is definitely gonna get stronger,, and there other characters that have a higher rank, but the point I'm making is that seraphina has the strongest hax so far in unordinary, if she gets stronger and learns to stop time for hours, she can literally one shot alot of powerful characters in unordinary, but that's only if she gets stronger
You guys do realised John Vs seraphina John was made sure by uru chan to not use seras Time manipulation since he will be overpowered with time manipulation and 3 other abilities. She had to beef him inorder to fight seraphina. Think people real broke. Person is John and his family as they have access to any ability
I think the real reason is cuz he can't see it
@@Fubuki_Hakai he just needs to see there aura so unless she instantly freezes time he should be able to copy the power
The only way John would be able to win is if he had enough abilities to counter Sera or if he could learn to copy her ability
Yep this is definitely fax, also the latest chapter broke my heart, I won't spoil anything if you haven't read it yet😢
I have😭. Personally, that was the last straw for me. “Those people” need to go😡
@@TheEndless935 Considering the words I'm assuming you mean orrin or the authorities did something (possibly to seraphina or john's dad) and now john is gonna be needing a training arc so he can pack up every authority or underling of orrin.
@@Astonished9To5something like that, but I won’t say anything
@@TheEndless935bruh its obvious he read spoilers and is trying to act like he doesnt know
@@icanchangemyname681 homie, it’s already been a month, ofc that chapter already out😂
Seraphina in a currently takes all physically stats from John
Since higher ability stat = stronger ability physical boost
The coldest shot of john ngl💀
LOVE THIS BOOK!!!!
the fight is all about if John is able to to copy the time manipulation ability before hand or not. if not, its basically over. but if he was able to copy the ability first, its no contest, John will win 100%. he is just a better at manipulating power, and even without power, he win in physical regardless.
The problem is John would have a weaker version
@@thesage7314 that is debatable. john energy manipulator allowed him to use even the advance version of the ability he copied. just like how he can use other people ability the way they didnt even think of using it yet. so if anything, he can use a more advance time manipulator ability that we dont even know yet.
so many ppl are talking abt the latest chapter but i don't know where to find it T~T, im still only on chapter 321
Manga4Life
Do john vs valerie also lowkey john mightve leveled up bc in latest chapt he punched the wall and madc a huge crack he mustve had a ability in hand for that but he didnt copy it from anyone around so maybe he can retain them after depowering
I mean if full potential John kinda takes this no diff, you see when John goes berserk? Sera kinda got nothing on him at all until he go full defensive mode and Sera can finally do free hits to pull him out.
Me waiting a edit of john "they thougth you are a monster... prove them rigth " going to the police to destroy everything with a joker mask
I don't know why people are saying this is facts because once John copies her ability he can amp it and then it's game over for seraphina so I really don't see how all of you think that sera would beat John because she wouldn't (my opinion if you don't agree you don't agree(
I don’t see your point, it’s still unclear whether John can in fact copy her ability yet. Even more than that, even if he could, his level is 7.5 and hers is 8.0, He can’t amp a higher level ability.
It was confirmed to be true when he challenged Zirian(New Bostons King at the time), John despite copying his ability was only a 3.0 and Zirian was 3.7, and Zirian won. No offense but try to pay more attention to how Johns ability works.
John can only copy techniques he can see, Seraphina uses a time ability so it's invisible 🤷♂️
@@Urek2766are you stupid?, John can copy someone's ability as soon as it activates because he changes his aura to mach there's he can't only copy physical abilities, like are you actually stupid?, pay attention to the webtoon before you go saying stupid things
@@Itachi-uchiha1124in the webtoon it literally saids it needs to be able to see the ability for him to copy it 😭🙏 Take your own advice lil bro
John can copy any techniques he wants except for the mental abilities he doesn't need to see it he can manipulate it's aura and copy it just like isen's ability also his level 7.5 on his basic form (no ability copied) cuz in every fight it Shows his lvl stats always is question mark he can copy any techniques and amp it whatever was the ability user lvl that's just soo dumb.
You should do more unordinary verse battles like this; especially with powerful characters
please do new bostin john vs arlo lol
John wins if he can copy one ability beforehand. He knows against sera he won’t be able to copy her without taking a solid hit or two so most likely he will go all defense. If she leaves a single opening, she doneee. If she somehow manages to one shot, then danm
If there were both at the same level John could win of hand to hand combat.
John can defeat Seraphina if he can copy her ability fast enough and from what the webtoons showing he might be able to create new powers
This is actually extremely close I would say John purely if you think john can copy a slightly weaker time minipulation if not then sera extreme diff she coming out this fig HR heavily injured
Well he is not at true potential yet
And also John is 7.5, sera is 8 and John mom Jane is at 9.1 in power. That means John has more potential in him. And also have you seen the latest chapter
@@kaicraft275 guys I know I’m going off what he had in his past prime at the peak that we saw him it doesn’t matter what future him can do it matters what John could do before that’s the only John I’m looking at all do I have no doubt John can fold her later on in the story scene the child always surpasses there parent at least in unordinary
@@Chaoskingdonovanthen how did he get to a 7.5
@@kaicraft275 he trained even after new Boston by storing his aura and learning to store more abilities and to amp them better at first at least it also increased do to physical mastery of his body
Recently I’m pretty sure he’s close to 8.0 do because he said himself after recovering it his body learned to give basic physical enhancements on its own without something to copy along with his aura sense getting stronger this is clear signs of growth in ability also his beams seem stronger
gotta do john vs jane lol
Thanks for making this, also would love to see keon vs vaughn 😊
You mean a 1 sided massacre with our favorite being stronger against a kinda mid person we dislike ye I’d also want to see that I mean Keon was doing his job but torturing a random 16yr old isn’t something that should happen
Serapina is more powerful than John because what I read is John have 7.5 and serapina have 8.0
Será wins. She’s a higher level and John’s not gonna have 4 abilities with everyone he fight so in a 1v1 time manipulation vs time manipulation sera stomps
Oh Kangwoo (Player who returned 10000 Years Later Manhwa) VS Kim Hyuen Woo (Advaced Player of the Tutorial Tower Manhwa)
I am really eager to see who wins ngl
That would be an interesting match up but I think it’s too early to say cuz we might need more feats from Oh Kang Woo.
@@TheEndless935 Based on Chapter 65 of Player Who Returned 10000 Years Later (Chapter 66 aint loading for me), I would say Kang Woo takes Hax, Experience, FSIQ, Battle IQ and everything else goes to Hyeonu. That is what I think for now
Bro this song is so nostalgic
He can copy people's ability and make the ability stronger.How does he lose plus to speed and the haxs?Gotta go to him.Also the powers go to him he can copy ability She won because her is more than one and his mental health was not good.
When they fought she couldnt beat a fatigued mentally unstable john not trying to hurt her
Thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard. You realize she couldn’t go all out either because she was warned not to do so. When she did go all out for an attack she broke threw his barrier. Also he was tryna hurt her or else she wouldn’t have needed to dodge 💀
._. Yeah but to be fair she was always weakened during that fight
I would say ap goes to John because of his striking ability
Sera was able to destroy Arlos barrier with one hit while john struggles with it
@@TheEndless935 because he was tired and already got in a fight
@@GyatMachine-zi1vm John has fought Arlo twice and each time, he struck arlos barrier, he only cracked it, not completely destroyed it. Sera easily takes AP
well the only issue is that jhon is insta win 1v1, it can copy any ability+boost it to the max and even maybe later buff it!! + it can have many ability at once so he can't loose a 1v1
@@megaloshark4700 and that right there is what almost everyone DOESN’T understand about Johns ability. His level is a 7.6, he can’t amplify an ability that’s of a higher level like Seraphina’s 8.0, his ability amplification caps at 7.6
@@TheEndless935 well i didnt know that, it is not mentioned in the webtoon
John is full of surprises
John wins extreme difficulty
Not yet
Until he a level 8 or above
Arlos barrier plus any heal spells john solos
Glazer
Sera would beat the current John but with extreme difficulty she would be badly i mean seriously injured
The only version of John she would mostly likely not be able to beat is joker but that version of him is gone
She did beat joker
@@raven5048 she didn’t both weren’t even trying to hurt eachother john was just trying to push her away from him joker version would of slammed her in a fight steal her ability most likely
@@Zaki_editz he was also at max amount of powers taken .. she was able to break through his barrier and get to him. She wasn't trying to hurt him but was trying to get to him.. since she is stronger she was the only one able to get to him
@@raven5048
I disagree, I don't think John has a skill limit, I think he has a limited number of skills he can use at a time, but I don't know if he can copy Sera, since he needs to see to copy, but I think he can. , as Seraphina's power is a bit visual.
@@tiopualperfect2493 it was stated a few times even by John himself he can hold 4... and when his power was dampened he said only room for 2 auras .. I am just stating what the webtoon has offered
id give hax to John just because of his copy technique
Gave sera hax due to her healing ability
fair
This song sounds a little different than the original, what version is it? Much better
Superhero (slowed)
@@TheEndless935Could I have the link
@@muzanjackson8827 czcams.com/video/MaUOqnxWGOA/video.htmlsi=GqDRHuKguHGPKRqA
look all imma say is john solos mid- high diff feel and take that however you want fam 🤷♂️
It’s a wrong opinion but fine
@@TheEndless935no it’s the right opinion but fine
@@Daniel-xn6vw no, it’s really not
@@TheEndless935 yes, it really is.
@@Daniel-xn6vw actually read the series, John can’t defeat someone of a higher level. As it was proven when he lost to Zirian, someone who John had copied his ability and yet still lost. John is still a 7.5 while Seraphina is 8.0. John is losing the fight.
Idk, about this one tbh, John could copy and Amy sera’s power,
he cant amp her power shes a higher level than him
@@yomama8021 oh, I didn’t know about that limitation
W😎
john vs val
Music?
Superhero by Simon Curtis (slowed)
All John has to do is use the time ability, and he wins
His ability level is lower meaning sera's will still be stronger
@@-Gamerly- But John is able to use all combined
@@Top_Spin this fight entirely depends on if he has prep time or not ig
@@Top_Spin your dumb asl it wouldnt be fair to give John 3 powers at the start of their battle
ehh depends on what he does
nice
how does john lose when he can copy her ability and make it stronger which is a scarrier thought
John-7.5
Seraphina-8.0
John can’t amplify that
are you sure about that@@TheEndless935
@@thereaper8878 how would I not be sure when it was confirmed?
@@TheEndless935i really doubt he is 7.5.
Sera has been training all her life to get to 8.0
John climbed 7.5 in just a few years. Especially since he has passive enhancements, now, it is clear he is significantly stronger than he was
@@alexina4567buddy his current level is confirmed at 7.6
Damn
I’d argue John takes AP
Experience goes to seraphina
Hax should go to john
I dontthink so jhon lost bucas he was on his max abiltys on the moment❤😅
Uhh he lost because he went insane in his head 😅
W+fax
high-extreme difference? nahh i wouldn't say
yeah john solos
@@MariTheWarriorsera mops💀
W
This manga is the most ordinary shit possible tbh
Didn’t ask but ok
Qual o nome do manga
thats biased
Isnt he can copy time manipulation??
And make it stronger
Don’t think so… he mostly can copy abilities that affect some kind of physical component. Also extremely high level abilities are difficult for him as well. So since stuff like clairvoyance and time manipulation aren’t really physical and at least one of those is considered super high tier. Take that with a grain of salt, no expert, I could be wrong!
@@PleaseExitHere but he copied isen eye detectors, i think he can copy time man if he see how seraphina rewind time for herself, imagine if situation will be so bad, that John will copy the time manipulation and return everything 1-2 days back
Well he not at his full potential yet
@@kaicraft275 oh frrr i forgot
One thing I had John wins that fight with no problem unless you're going by what happened in the story even then he was in a mentally weakened State of mind he was but you take that away he wins no problem so please wake up
No, it’s unclear whether he can in fact copy Seraphinas ability, even if he could, she would still be faster than him because she’s a higher level with an 8.0 and John is a 7.5, he can’t amplify a higher level ability.
Even when Seraphina fought John, she also wasn’t 100% due to her being dizzy during the fight caused by her treatment. Please pay attention to how Johns ability actually work.
I dont see how seraphina won with attacks and hax when john literally steals shit and makes its stronger 💀
John solos 🙏🏼🙏🏼
No, his ability level is lower
@@TheEndless935AHAHAH bro, nah,
John is by far one of the best characters in any webtoon combined.
He has an incredible mentality, a huge charisma, a pure and hard will. His past hardened him, and he was quite right to fuck the whole system with his ability. Even if Seraphina seems « stronger » because he cannot copy his power, remember that he can not only copy almost all existing abilities, and increase them.
You will never be able to debate the fact that John > unordinary, because he is by far the best character in existence😹🙏🏼
@@lou_sano 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ John 1st year in highschool lost to New Bostons King when he was a 3.0, he had his ability copied yet still lost to a 3.7, that already proves that he can’t beat anyone who’s ability level is higher. Stop overreacting the fuck out of John until he gets his level up to a 15 or higher, then that’s when he can truly solo his verse.
8.0>>>>>>>>>>7.5, cry about it🤡
@@TheEndless935 You will always find something to say about John, we can see how it turns this jacket since the last chapters (those that date back to two years ago) it’s desperate.
But wait until John has a super high level and we’ll see what you say by then 🙏🏼
AND IM NOT EXCESSIVE ABOUT HIM, it’s just I read Unordinary since 2016 and I can’t say « John he’s inferior blah blah.. » after all hotter moments we caned seeing. ( sry if my English isn’t perfect. I hope you understand my text💀)
@@TheEndless935as of…. When they tested him? The rate John’s power increased is way higher than Sera’s.
He could very well be above 8.0 right now.
John = no diff
How ?
Bruhhh??? John is the clear winner here both in terms of power and hax
@@nishanttomar8258 how?
cap😂
Hax y ap Jhon