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What is PhD by Indian Scientists
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2022
- Every scientist was once a PhD student. It will be interesting to know the view of scientist on the process of PhD. The philosophy and the struggle, that's what this episode of biotech talks is about. Scientists form various research institutes share their views on what a PhD is, what should it accomplish, why one should pursue PhD and problems faced by a PhD student.
Following is the list of scientists who have explained PhD in this video.
1. Dr. Satyajit Rath ( Visiting faculty IISER Pune)
2. Dr. Surendra Ghaskadbi ( Emeritus scientist ARI)
3. Dr. Sandhya Koushika ( Scientist TIFR)
4. Dr. Sudha Rajamani ( Scientist IISER)
5. Dr. Deepa Subramanyam ( Scientist NCCS)
6. Dr. Sunil Saroj ( Associate professor at Symbiosis international deemed university)
7. Dr. Amit Yadav ( Scientist NCMR-NCCS)
8. Dr. Abhijit Majumder (Scientist IIT Bombay)
9. Dr. Debjani Paul (Scientist IIT Bombay)
Music Credits-
Following songs were used in this video, I am thankful to the artists and CZcams audio library to provide small creators like me with such wonderful songs that can be used in videos for better communication.
Blue Mood - Robert Munzinger
It's Only Worth It If You Work For It (Clean) - NEFFEX
Fat Man - Yung Logos
Phd -"pick a problem and answer it!"
Yes.. simple and effective
According to me, it's learning.
Precisely
The most precise and sorted answer
Pick a problem and create something new
Pure science and research are really so underrated and undervalued in India. It's nice to see videos like this one that talk about research and PhD in India. A country that encourages scientific literacy and temper encourages its overall development. 👍
Thank you 😊 it's so nice to hear this
Yup , Engineering and Doctory lines are so overpopulated , while Pure Science line is disappearing....
You see a smart student he has got be a NEET OR JEE aspirant , but people get shocked when they say they want to learn pure science
@@cyber_gypsygaming7452 I agree. It's sad that people don't realise pure science and it's research is fundamental to almost every other subject like engineering or medicine. These subjects wouldn't exist without Biology, chemistry and physics.
because there is no proper funding for research in our country
@@chaos.n.cosmos yes , pure science is the very foundation for its branches like engineering and medical
PhD is a journey of "confusion to conclusion".
Great word
Best comment I hv ever seen
Great❤️
I am a msc student and now preparing for phd in these days and in this precious time this video is just a best motivation for me. And i can feel their statement very deeply😊
Glad to hear that 🤗
same
Same here
All the best
First of all congratulations 👍 and good luck for testing times ahead🎐
It is very hard with the amount of funding in India and many other countries.
You're working 11-12 hrs a day and still don't get paid enough. It's demotivating.
It's so sad how the only rewarding professions in India are either mind numbing corporate jobs or government service jobs where you suck up to corrupt and immoral politicians. The ones that actually help give back to the country in the real sense are not given importance.
I am really thankful to you for producing this video. I am currently in my 4th year of PhD (Mechanical-Automobile). The wait for publishing, the deadline for funding, and the loss of time got to me, so I began questioning my career and life choices. The opinion of the doctorates really helped me calm down.
I am glad that you liked it
Only two scientists told that it is fun. Dilemma, confusion, hypothesis, research, failure...everything else is secondary. The basic essesnce of PhD should have been that you love to do research and love the subject or at least love to do something about the subject. However, everyone is talking about milestones and process of Ph.D. This is really astonishing and to some level depressing.
When the entire educational ecosystem from primary schooling onwards
is predicated on a
monthly-paychecks-earning paradigm and little else,
this will be the continuing predicament.
That's why no one is happy deep down.
It depends on your field and topic of research too. Very few fields offer problems which are inherently fun to work on. Something like archeology can be very fun, provided that you get a passionate mentor as well...
The viewers should see the grace on these people's face. That's what a scholar should be after. Their is no greater pursuit.
Agreed
Exactly and for the love of the subject
Agreed
Nice video. It would have been great to hear Indian PhDs who didn't join academia or left academia, and pursued careers such as science communication.
Nice thought, people should think about this as well
Hi. This just popped on my feed and I truly appreciate the effort. Also truly appreciate the time these scientists have given to answer this critical question "what is PhD?". I am from Pakistan, currently enrolled in PhD-biotech and sometimes it makes us question the life choices because of funding scenarios, stipend issues and lack of communication within scientific community. People like to hide things. I think the situation is similar in india. Although india have 3rd largest pool of scientists and engineers. I do hope one day we will be able to make things better. 😊
Thank you ☺️
I hope it too
In my PhD days in BHU we were often told that "you're doing science!" The result of that approach: all of us (some 20 students in total) took 6-7 years to complete; the years beyond the fifth year were unpaid as well. In Johns Hopkins University I met a PhD student who said this: the day he joined the lab he was handed over a written 'schedule' that said what all things one needs to do. That also had suggestion as to at which stage of PhD one should start applying for post-doc. PhD, above everything, is a career path.
PhD is a black hole..once you get into it, "downwards is the only way forward".. financial instability, demotivation, academic plus family pressure starts mounting up with each passing day..
It is the art of creating a sensible and a significant problem. The execution is not just finding an answer but exploring the meaning of the PhD problem and then giving the results as obtained rather than solving it.
👍👍
There are levels to the "why" questions that you can answer. You look at a system and ask the question, why does the system behave like this? You found an answer. Then you go a level deeper and ask again, why is the answer like that? And you can continue like this 4-5 times. By the 4-5th time, the question becomes so hard that it requires immense hard work and creativity to answer such questions. Famous scientists like Einstein or Newton answered such " why" questions.
But in today's date, most supervisors focus on answering the easier "why" questions which can help them publish a ton of papers and gain reputation and promotion due to that. That is why, you will see although there are lots of researchers, only a few of them are working on cutting edge research. It is very disheartening to see the kind of research work conducted in some big institutes in India. I was a part of such an institute.
You are very correct
Take respect
I agree!
Richard Feynman, my role model in Physics believed in same. You seem to have motivation from same source.
@@jayant8363 Yes. My thought is a derivative of what he said on different types of questions that we can answer.
I like the Treasure hunting concept, I think it is really coherent with question
Ask same question from first, then second and then forth year PhD students.. let's see how gradually the answer changes
Ph.D. should not be considered as just another degree or job for money. It should be only adopted when a candidate love to explore things in one's own way but off course verifying with the well-established knowledge.
Thanks for sharing such videos.
Welcome
can we just appreciate the editing, soft Jazz in the background and the scientist describing the phd is like a wonderful journey had started and we are floating in it.
I am glad that someone mentioned it. Thank you 😊
finding a small problem is itself a task and justifying the answer in a whole new way is an another perspective that an individual will go through in PhD.
👍👍 agreed
Finding the right executable problem is the responsibility of the guide as much as it of the student since they have more experience. In India, i don't think it is the quantity of scientists that is problematic it is the quality.
Great video! :) Keep sharing these insights!
It was an amazing experience to listen to all the scientists about their understanding and experience of "What is a PhD?" while being in that journey.
Thank you 😊. I am glad that you liked it.
This is what is PhD from supervisors' perspective. You should also see what PhD students are actually thinking. There are many grey shades! If you truly want to motivate students for this journey, you should show the true scenario.
Yes, planning that "you"
From my perspective, the most important question can be:
How is the relationship between PI and PhD student in India compared to abroad?
Who has more liberty in choosing the PhD project, Indian PhD student or abroad PhD student?
Multiple times I have came across this conversation... Hopefully will incorporate questions like these in my future interviews
More or less, everywhere it is the same. It only and only depends on the PI's open-mindedness. Even in science, there are not to many open-minded PIs in the whole world. There is only one difference between doing PhD in India and abroad. In abroad you are on your own not in choosing PhD project but in performing your assigned project. Whereas in India PhD students are spoon-fed. Both In India and abroad, sometimes you get to choose your project if you PI is open. Another difference is in abroad no one cares about a PhD student. PIs only depend on postdoc and research assistants. But in India, it is actually the opposite as PhD student is the prince/princess. I am saying this as I have seen both sides very closely.
@@BinayKSahoo is it spoonfed even at elite institutions like the iisc or ncbs?
@@BinayKSahoo spoon-fed??? Where??....forget about spoon feeding, the supervisor wont even guide which path to choose...infact forget about a path, they wont even tell whether the path chosen by a candidate is right or wrong!!!.....they are only busy proving that the candidate is worthless....Or am I in the wrong place????!!!!!
@@ishikaghosh3633 I guess you are talking about he or she not may be "they". I am talking in general but exceptions are also there everywhere.
Phd is basically an ideal solution or answer for a particular problem which can be extended in further use or study.
I have passed 12th this year ........and i m going to take up science (bs-ms) inspite of having a good rank in JEE. ...........this video gave me a clear perspective that what am i going to do in my life after completing masters !.........thankyou very much it helped me a lot ................
I hope the best for you 😊
How about a video with Indian PhD students both in India and abroad ?
There are bunch of us and many of your buddies too, I guess, who wouldn't mind talking about their opinion of what a PhD is
Yes, planning that as well.
@@biotechtalks Ah nice. You have a discord/mailing list ?
Not yet.. if you wanna talk about it to me.. contact me on LinkedIn. The profile link is in the about section of this channel
It's like a marriage which ends with a bitter divorce after 5 years.
Then divorce should be a positive thing.
It was inspiring to listen to these condensed snippets of wisdom. Admirable hard work to put all this together. Thank you for making this.
Thank you ☺️
Keep making such videos, asking questions to Indian scientists.
my friend we meet again
It is a journey of questioning about unknown thing to find out of the answer with the help of scientific methodology.
How exciting does it sounds to be able to find new discoveries and contribute to scientific community...
Interesting, very nice initiative. Keep it up
Thank you 😊
Thanks for this video! Brilliant effort. Also the choice of the song in the end is perfect:)
I am glad that some noticed why I have used that song☺️ thank you
I am a Ph.D scholar and I wish , wish to meet such extraordinary people in my life.
I find myself very fortunate to meet them all
Right now I am in Msc and I have published article, according me PhD is about patience, do the thing to help society, and last do what we love it with fun.
Best of luck dude 🙂🙂👍
Hey, never found a video like this one before by some indian youtuber, loved your work! keep going ..
Thank you ☺️☺️☺️🥲 you just made my day
@@biotechtalks and your video made mine 🥰
Thank you ☺️
I want to become a physicist, this video makes me clear about my Phd decision. U gained a loyal subscriber today
I hope the best for you. Your comment was really heart touching. Thank you 😊
🖤🖤Hands down, One of the most informative video I have watched till date. 🖤🖤
Thank you ☺️
Thank you for this ! You're channel is underrated, you deserve more views.
Thank you ☺️. Your comment made my day. Please share it with life science students.
I think that, though it is a part of education system but it is a way of life, about training ur brain to think deeply, analyse the situation, collection evidences and understand the root problem...and then finding solutions
Yes.. making decisions based on facts .. that's the progressive wat
Well done mate... We as a community need to devlope critical thinking in our pedagogical methods of imparting education.... The curiosity to learn about functional aspects of any system/any phenomenon.... This practise of questioning ultimately helps an individual to become more aware and less judgemental in his approach.
Agreed 👍
Nice video. I would like to request the admin to search answer for another question from these eminent scientists. The query is "What's the importance of NET in doing PhD in India?"
Yes sir, will do that
Right nikhilesh da..
because it's a check that you don't get away with it by getting a prejudice PhD by publishing a shit in a journal that no one knows.
Not that clear Navi Crazzy
@@nikhileshjoardar1938 just ask those professors who have got their phd by publishing in journal, now they are sucking blood of system and ruining future of many students. At least exams like NET/GATE will make sure their fundamentals are clear.
And for these professors talking here about big abstraction of phd in reality they haven't done anything most just rely on their research scholar not only for publication but also their daily work as well.
Nice video 😍 the way they were explaining, loved it especially you pick a problem and answer it😀👍
Thank you so much..it's very helpful for me and all those students who are preparing for PhD interview 😊🙏
Thank you 😊☺️
Next time ask the Scholars, the real heros who actually suffer every day and how they plan to kill their selfish PI or guides in their mind..
And also ask them about in lab student guide politics, pressure of maintaining lab and representation of blameful stories and criticism about phd students from the mouth of guides to others like they are not responsible for anything wrong only the scholar is..
😂 Funny and shameful, the kind of humanity they show..
And what is the everyday process of work in labs in abroad and what is happening in India ?
Do they treat students like slaves or there is a professional relationship ? In India these 'guides' people when they get the chair their sole aim become how to just consume their prey for own benefit
They forget how to behave.. Most of them..
I agree 100%. Students don't quit because of funding. They quit because they are treated like dirt.
One more term to enhance the beauty of this process' partiality'
i quit mine after my guide mentally harrased me... I took a 3 yr gap n now got a gem of a guide ... funding and life is back on track...
@@gayathrivenkatramanan7424 happy for you.. 🙃 I am fighting still 😁😅
Quit mine after 4 and a half years... Still struggling to gather my lost self confidence and still struggling to get a stable job.....
I'm preparing for CSIR NET this year and it's a great motivation for me..cleared my insight for pursuing it even more lyk damn this is what I wanna do in lyf
Best of luck. I hope you do great research
I bet there is no better way to explain what is PhD than how this video does... interview was very insightful. I liked Dr. Sandhya's part...
Thank you 😊
It would be great if you could make a video on Institutes of Sciences in India, especially institutes like IISERs, NISER...
Yes. Thanks for the suggestion. Will keep in mind.
that was very intrestingly introspective, specially when i am going to join my PhD soon
Best of luck Mohit.
Thank you Mr. Biotechnologist.
Mr. Biotechnologist is a cool name, might use it for something someday. Thanks buddy ☺️
PhD is exploring something which is already existing in nature and to establish the theory with science.
Fantastic video! 🙇
I must say though that the 'why' is often inflated. I don't know why replication studies are looked down upon
Excellent video. Interesting replies. Insightful!
After watching this video, i realize that it is very important to ensure that a person is able to answer this question clearly before they are allowed to start a research group and supervise PhD students.
I agree, it is good to reimagine the PhD education/training. But, the people who do the "reimagining" should have a clear idea of what PhD is.
Although all these scientists gave excellent answers based on their experience and understanding of the process, only some of them were able to clearly articulate the objectives of PhD training.
Next time, I hope you ask people (not just the professors, but also some PhD students) what the word "philosophy" means in PhD. I am sure it will be even more interesting and enlightening.
Yes i will be having PhD students to answer what is PhD to them
Very motivated.as a management phd aspirant, it going to help me.
👍👍👍👍
Abbreviating, review of literature, solving statement of problem, Research methodology, citation and research thesis in a nutshell Phd
Its a process of going into a tunnel/cave where you leave the rest of the people & worldly matter out and you go alone in a cave for 5-6 years. You cant focus on anything other than your topic and anything and everything associated with it.
A very nice compilation of interesting perspectives from various experts... Keep up the good work! 👍
Thank you 😊
I am surprised no body talked about less fellowships.... definitely they are not Indian scientists they might have done their PhD from different country
Dr. Sandhya answered it really well
A proper and extensive Literature review is the best compass for conducting a highly qualified research work.💯
These people who spoke about phD seem to be more fluent in english speaking after their phD.what good they did to society ,tell
there work sometime go unseen..
like by seeing you no one can tell that how much care and nurture you have received from your parents...
similarly there little contribution help upcoming researchers to countinue the work...
#the show is must go on.✌️😉
A very well-made video, thanks to the scientists who made the answer easier for us. However, being in an early stage of my Ph.D. I can not but think why only Ph.D. is so much (in comparison) in talk compared to postdoc or other stages of the research endeavors. Is that because Ph.D. is the first platform where we are trained to ask questions? If so, then it is sad and a bit late as well.
Agreed
Very perceptive . Am curious about specificities of science research compared to social sciences
It's a saga of attaining wisdom and liberty through Tapas to reach an Island of Opportunities in a Ocean of knowledge
Interesting!
However to reach this level to explore and dive deep into topics for years together without worrying about the end result requires a backing at least monetarily either from the government or family. You need to be least careful of fulfilling the basic needs.
The more we grow as a nation(atleast economically), the more we will have people who can have the liberty to "research" which will result in more growth and the cycle continues...
Bang on
Couldn't have agreed more..the financial instability and the end of fellowship tenure is a nightmare..even if you love science and want to do more, the cash crunch starts biting you..
A proper Guide selected is fifty percent of PhD done in advance.
You make good videos. Want to know more about you . Also the editing is thoughtful and good
Thank you ☺️, you can check out my linkedin profile mentioned in the about section of this CZcams channel
If people don't act..... My PhD will be my life's biggest & last disaster
Looking like It's a deep well with no begining and start
Dr. Shashi Tharoor did his Masters in 2 Years and continued for 1 more year at Tufts University to obtained his PHD thats the shortest time I have come Across
I didn't knew that, thanks for sharing
School students who had/have innately exhibited the same attitude, curiosity and the rigor to find out the academic truths ( behind the acceptance of the scientific & mathematical &
allied disciplines'
postulates, theories,theorems & proofs into marks-demanding school curricula)
from their Teachers were belittled and brushed aside by their teachers and mocked at by their mug-pot
classmates ...and they became the disillusioned Backbenchers in every school!
How do human👥 civilizations evolve from Middle Dark Ages to Industrial🏭 Age and then onto Modern 20th and 21st century? Answering this question completely will help you to realize😃 the critical and crucial connection between a PhD📜 (in STEM 🧬📡field) and industry🏭.
"From where does the industry comes from?" Try answering it completely and on the spot under 10 seconds.
Do PhD in India only if you're rich or insane
A PhD in basic science makes you have the license to practice science. A University scientist/researcher/academia/professor is just a special extension of Government employees. If the "Government" wants you, you will be hired to start as an assistant professor. Then all these factors will dictate your research and academic career for the remaining of your life: number of publications, citations, impact factors and government research grants. It has to be similar both the government and scientists, example, Thailand government- Thai scientists, German government- German scientists, Japan government- Japanese scientists, Canada government- Canadian scientists, etc. Stephen Hawking is a British scientist, his employer is British government.
Since PhD is compulsory for most higher jobs, people just do as a degree for eligibility.
PhD in India is devastating effect. UGC regulations acts as monopolitics and lobbyist promoting groupism and restriction for good a researcher. Tell me how many IIT and IIMs or private universities researchers have helped in grow or develop good academics... very few. Need to jnclude foreign graduates acceptance and drive innovation allow good people to work in government as well non government universities. UGC has closed door and lobbyist group policy for not allowing good researcher to work together.
Beautifully articulated.
Thank you 😊
My PhD journey was not a bed of roses. But it does teach you a way of life and gives you memories for a lifetime.
Currently, I am unable to find a job in research. But I hope that sometime in the future things would change :)
I hope the same. Wishing you luck 👏👏👏👏
thank you :)
wow i got nice channel interesting answers....currently im doing MS material physics and passionate about doing phd after a year but now i have to think again
Best of luck 👍
Permanent Head Damage that led a person to inhabit in a new world with new perception of reality. But to most Indian PhD is about getting a degree, to get a job and fulfilled UGC norms.
Thanks for making this
Thank you sir for taking your valuable time out for this
Seeking answers that we r raising
I am in my bachelor's and looking forward to my PhD in physics. I have many questions , i hope can find answer to those problems
" Hope is a good thing Red, and no good thing ever dies" my favourite quote from the movie Shawshank Redemption. I hope the best for you.
The treasure hunt explanation fits well.
Phd- Pick a problem and publish research papers on it
Solving the problem is not that necessary but publish papers at any cost
Or else how will the community grow
And what will write in the results section of your so called published paper if you don't solve the problem you are writing the paper on?
@@suki5048 anything theoretical which may not be practically feasible
Only certain sets of papers are like that, not original research papers that are also required to be published every year by the PI
in the case of money and job prospective, it is waste of time but if it is a passion it is worth going.
Good explanation and thoughts…
Thank you 😊
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Very good initiative 👏 👍
I think, the same question should also be asked to people who somehow avoided PhD insted of having that opportunity. Because here in this video you will get a biased view (that may or may not be right).
Yes , I am considering that as well
What is good question ? what is interesting question ?
Thank you!
Amazing. There were faculty from IISER but which IISER? There are many now.
Dr. Sudha Rajamani and Dr. Satyajit Rath are from IISER pune.
Beautiful inspiring keep sharing 🎉😇
Thank you ☺️
The guy who speaks absolute sense and exhibits flashes of originality, interestingly articulating an abstract, from 3:47 to 4:48
doesn't have his name & where he works.
Why?
Correct this important oversight!
He is Dr. Abhijit Majumder from IIT Bombay. His name and place of work is mentioned in the beginning of the video
Name of the Scientists and the Subtitles are overlapping..making it difficult for me to read the full name. Kindly see to this..
There is an option to turnoff the subtitles at the upper right end of the screen and name and institute they belong to is also mentioned in the description.
@@biotechtalks Ok.
PhD in india: 'Overworked and severely underpaid' ... plagued by plagiarism.
Nice video. Thanks for your effort. However I wonder what would the people in industries with PhD thinks about this subject?
Yes, people who pursue industrial PhD will be having a different view.
I meant also the PhDs in academia who switched to industry afterwards
Masters student of social sciences here , great content ....can you do one about writing or developing phd proposals , or maybe is that too much to ask ??! Thanks .
Will try to incorporate that. Thank you ☺️
Pick a problem and answer it.
just encountered this video, while struggling with some PhD related problem and thinking about leaving. Everyone has some sort of the same story, I might be able to tell mine someday.