Jeep Wrangler Rubicon vs Land Cruiser 80 series - Off-road Comparison
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- Jeep Wrangler Rubicon vs Land Cruiser 80 series - Off-road Comparison
In this video, we tested the off-road capabilities of two iconic off-road vehicles, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, and Land Cruiser 80 series. They are both solid front and rear axle, on 35 inch Mud Terrain tires, and fully locked on each differential. Which one would you pick?
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Excellent video I like how it was made, direct and to the point. Thank you so much.
thank you!
Make a video of the Jeep when it's 30 years old and 250k miles. It will be in the scrap yard or on its 5th powertrain. 80 all the way!
I hear you, i'd say a jeep LJ would probably be capable of doing that, newer jeeps i am not sure
My old 1997 40th doing much better specially against the new Jeep’s actually I need to pull some of them back to the flats specially the 4door version and my Toyota has 200000 miles complete stock on original size tires with more aggressive threads for both highway and off road driving with all seats and regular license plates
This comment..made my day...laugh so damn hard 😆
@@dolguldur4706 lol
Toyota💛🧡❤️
The fact that the 30-year-old Toyota is being put against a less than 10-year-old Jeep is all I need to know to make my decision.
Well said
@jim he’s not knocking the Jeep, he’s praising the Landcruiser.
if anything a new landcruiser is heavier... i think the 30 y/o landcruiser is more comparable in vehicle size so maybe thats why they went with the older model
I’m going to buy a land cruiser instead of a wrangler
how are you gonna get a landcruiser tough?
80 series was incredible. Props to Jeep for continuing to make front solid axle vehicles with front and rear lockers.
That indeed.
The rubicon is the only available option to get a factory locker front
The land cruiser is the gem!
that it is!
The 80 series land cruiser is prolly my favorite off road suv of all time. It’s just perfect. Solid axles, triple locked, absolute beast from the factory and super easy to mod. I have a 4runner and love it and wish Toyota would throw in front and rear lockers on the 4Runners but these 80 series are gems today and super hard to find or super expensive with tons of miles on them but they do last literally forever.
Yea. As long as you can deal with old cars small quirks
The ones from the mid 90s (4runner) used limited slip diffs.
I'll take the land cruiser all day and every day over the Jeep. It'll be around 40 years from now and still be capable of running. New Jeeps, fat chance!!
97 80 series owner, I gotta go with the LC. Had a new 2012 Rubicon on order at one time but work was sketchy so I pulled the order. Found my 80 in 2016 but it's all stock at 186,000 miles. Head gasket time and then figure out the 35's and 4.56 or 4.88's. Triple locked. Guess I'm a Toyota fan since I own 3 of their products.
That’s nice that you also own a triple locked lc80. Don’t ever get rid of it
I own 2 third generation 4Runners an an LX450. Reliable, tough, well engineered and all going up in value each day.
Great comparison video. The 80 series suspension definitely wins this one.
This was a good video. I would argue that where the 80 (and all Land Cruisers) will outshine virtually any other platform is in their ability to take abuse. Doing a mechanical comparison between STOCK Rubicon vs. 80 Series suspension and steering components will show you why. I have seen stock 80 Series axles handle 40-inch tires in the rocks under hard wheeling conditions for years and have no breakage. The G550 4x4 Squared (portal axle equipped) notwithstanding, you can't do that on any other "modern" 4x4. Dana 44's certainly cannot handle that sort of abuse, which is why hardcore Jeeps end up with 1-ton axles.
yes. As the land cruisers frame components are built to withstand much more than the current Jeeps
My final two choices for an overlander are between an 80 series land cruiser and the G class. The durability is the reason why.
joke our here is just buy the jeep body and frame you will be replacing everything else anyway...
I have an 80 series and a 79 scout 2 that came with Dana 44s. They're actually pretty good axles and less complicated than the 80 but I plan to do 35s on the 80 and I have 1 tons for the scout which I'll cut the rusted fenders and put on some 40s. I love both of them.
lc all the way, more reliable too, 20 years apart. with lockers the lc is more capable than any other off road out there,
absolutely
I forgot the video I heard this from. But reaching your destination is optional. Coming back from your destination is necessary. I trust Toyota more than anything
Well said
Old Australian saying. "If you want to get there take a Rover. If you want to get home take a Land Cruiser".
finally a proper comparison!! good Work! and I just subscribed.. :)
As an Owner of a Lexus LX450 on 33’s I love the capability, reliability, inexpensive parts, and most importantly the on/off-road ride quality. 80 series LCs are truly amazing machines and are a pleasure to drive. I opted for 33s for performance reasons. 35s on stock powertrain have a harder time towing especially along side gradients. So Colorado/Mountain terrain keep that in mind.
I've been looking at 80 series and 450's, you better hold onto that 450. It's going to be worth a mint one day.
Inexespensive parts? Lol where u buyin parts
@@Southernbread686 many of the land cruisers 80 parts are shared with the 79series. Inexpensive is subjective. Remember an 80 series is a range topping SUV. But it’s way cheaper than a Cayenne, Tourareg, Range Rover, or Mercedes Benz GL of the same or similar era. And it’s mostly analog.
Both are great for off-road but my preference is the Land Cruiser series. :)
Land Cruiser still kicking ass, best by far.
Yea I tend to agree
If you want to get there take the Rubi'. If you want to get there and back then take the 'Cruiser.
In this case, I think the driver in the Toyota and the Jeep running street pressure is what makes the difference in performance.
Agree
Good job on making sure both vehicles are similarly setup with 35's and lockers but you failed in making sure both vehicles were aired down equally. Of course airing down will provide much better traction than street pressure. The Jeep lifted a rear tire because the tires on the ground were not aired down and not allowed to compress properly. Also, the 80 series used speed and momentum whereas the Jeep driver tried to crawl on the first hill climb. They should both be approaching with similar speeds. Keep all criteria consistent for a true comparison. Otherwise, nice job.
thanks! I certainly try to keep them as similarly setup as possible however, I am just happy I got both filmed because end of the day, they weren't out there for me to film, they were just having fun and I made the best out of it. Cheers.
@@4WDisLife “but where you failed…” Lolol. For some people, cool free videos isn’t good enough.
I was wondering when someone was going to point out the dissimilar tire pressures. Airing down makes a huge difference offroad both in ride quality and for traction.
That 80 lc just gives you confidence that no other trucks can compete. Been a fan since I was 6, capable and luxury, it definitely aged well.
I’m an 80 owner and I have 4 family members with JK Wranglers and we have been off roading together for years. Advantage Jeep: MUCH better flex in the front axle. Was not apparent in the video but my 80 very often lifts a front tire where the Jeeps don’t. Short rear overhang; I have a Heavy duty steel rear bumper on my 80, and it has taken a severe beating. Jeeps rarely drag the rear bumper. Much better clearance at the rocker panels; Toyota, why oh why did you route the exhaust UNDER. the frame! Doors and top removable; this is a legit advantage off road because your visibility is so much better. Rubicon 4:1 transfer case; I have stalled out on very steep climbs with my 2.5:1 TC. Advantage 80: much better clearance under the gas tank and transfer case. Tie rod is behind the front axle where it is out of harms way (most common failure point for Jeeps in my experience). Transfer case high range can be regeared, instead of both axles. Full float rear axle; not only is it stronger, but broken axle shafts can be replaced without even removing the wheel. More durable and more reliable in every way. 3rd row seats.
add a front sway bar disconnect on your 80 and some transfer case gears and really good shocks, if you really want front end travel superior front control arms.... , mine on 35's, 4.88 with high and low range transfer case gears will out crawl a jk any day. mine has been almost everywhere rubicon to mojave road in the last 20 years, the only thing I want in mine is a turbo diesel so I get more than 12mpg...
@@rayjon237 thanks for the tips. I can outcrawl those JKs now 😁 but it’s always fun to make it better!
30 years with my 80 series, best rig ever, love it so much, still my daily driver back & forth with the kids. The new 300 series the base model reminds of the 80, a bit plasticy but at least its small.
I was in a ice storm with a few inches of ice on the interstate. It was crazy slick and watched multiple wrecks from even 4x4s. My 80 rocked i never had one issue. Interstate was shut down and the main highway got closed not long after. I was hours from home and between cities. I had no choice to push on. The build up of ice broke a tree and it was over the road. My 80 didnt care. She went right over it. The 3 hours it should have taken normally took 8 but my 80 never let me down. I have 450k miles on it now and would trust it to take me anywhere tomorrow. She has a om606 diesel now and 4.88 gears on 37s with bumpers, sliders, and winches. She is locked but thats factory. She is nothing special but she will go. I also am a jeep guy and have had rubicons, xy, zj, and yj. They all were built and took a lot more to compete with the cruiser. I love the low range of the rubicons factory. But overall the cruiser is hard to beat with factory drivetrain. Dont get me wrong i still have my jeeps and in crazy rocks or mud jeeps are better but over all drive in any condition on and off the road i say 80 is the champ over 99% of vehicles made.
FZJ80 is a better vehicle all around.
1. Cheaper cost
2. shorter wheel base than four door jeep
3. add high clearance bumpers & the depart/app angles are about the same.
4. remove the front sway bar which isn’t needed and it has way more flex than jeep
5. Triple locked free float axles
6. more reliable
7. more internal room
8. wider stance i think (not sure)
Good points
cruiser needs the front sway bar pulled, and some 4x4 labs armor, and springs with a proper load rating (looks to stiff/light) , axle gears and transfer case gears would also help... my 93 has been everywhere from Rubicon to Mojave road in the last 20 years, loaded down heavy off road, the cruiser does way better, and the suspension and driveline is twice as strong as the jeep stuff, I challange any Jk without one ton axles and a lot of mods/$$ to carry the gear and load I do and follow me,,, in the Sierra's we see alot of broken jeeps, to break an 80 series is possible but it takes some work or poor maintence.. BTW I am at 300k miles with stock tie rods on 35's and alot of off road miles (now I carry spares but never needed them), find me any jeep at 300k with mostly stock driveline still going?????? totally different animal with a different purpose ..than a jeep..
I have an 80 triple locked manual diesel with gearbox driven winch for last 25 years. Oh the number of jeeps I have rescued over the years 😂
I have owned a JK. I now have a LX450. Triple locked. Slee lift. 35” BFG’s. Other goodies. Need a gear swap. Funny how the Rubicon came out boasting of factor lockers when others have done it decades before.
80 series!!
That will be my pick too.
80 Series rule 🤙🏼
They sure are very solid
Обалденные тачки! Зачёт
The jeep didn't air down at all?? Strange city people getting out further haha nice vid. 2in lift on the cruiser?
Yea OME two inch
@@4WDisLife nice! I'm on 4 in my cruiser, kinda want 3in flexi coils
Two excellent vehicles! I'd go with the 80, but I'd have a blast wheeling either. I'm curious though, did you see the front sway bar actually prevent the 80 from flexing or maintaining contact anywhere? I've always heard from people who drive them that the 80 swaybars are so soft, it has no problem fully articulating even without disconnecting or removing them. Obviously the Wrangler would have an advantage on pavement with a stiffer bar connected.
80 series the beast!!
Would help if the Jeep used same speed/momentum as Land Cruiser on some of those long climbs.
Superior vehicle. Superior driver. Land Cruiser gets you there, but more importantly, back home.
Cool i love Landcruiser
Thanks! They are great vehicles.
What year is the Jeep again? 201? Jeep vs 1990’s LC. LC wins no contest. Are there any 25 year old jeep wranglers still on the road?
good point 😊
As a ex Wrangler owner and a current FJ Cruiser owner, I would take the LC80 triple locked over Jeep anyday.
This is probably a stupid question but what year is that LC80?
I’d say 1996
I love Jeep Wranglers, but I guarantee you it was a far superior ride in that Landcruiser on the highway getting to the trails.
How much lift on the LC to fit 35’s?
i believe it’s got a 2.5-3inch lift
I own a Triple Lock Lexus LX450 with 500,000 miles on it it has been maintained religiously. It looks new. (Original drive train). It smells new. It feels new. Of course I am partial to the Land Cruiser but truthfully, I have not see a lot of Rubicons with 500,000 miles on them...
agree, apparently the much older jeeps would last much longer, but then jeeps do get abused more imo.
Ive never seen any jeep with 500k miles in my life
I wish Toyota makes landcruiser design that looks like the wrangler
Toyota LC kicked ass!
yea. Being a 20 plus year old vehicle it’s great.
Rubicon has lower transfer case gears stock. Maybe mention already.
Best Jeep IMO 2006 Rubicon Unlimited
Best LC 1997 FZJ80
I can't think of any pros to owning a Jeep. I am bias tho as I have a triple locked 96 FZJ80 as well. Maybe a V8 engine would be nice but knowing Chrysler products, it wont last.
LC hands down. You can go across the country in an LC in comfort-The Jeep not so much. Both 4wd capable with the LC being more dependable.
Hello, up that steep hill, the JEEP started and drowe MUCH SLOWER, you shuld mentioned that !!!
TK🇳🇴
THE 80 SERIES IS THE # KING # AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
Not disagreeing.
@@4WDisLife have had my 80 SERIES since 1990. 2 diff locks and centre diff lock and if series mountain fun in the Mud l put my mud ladder chain's on which l made myself. Is un stoppable.
From Australia 🤠👍
@@mohammeds5458 Different Toys for Different Boys. I prefer the Bigger Toys 😁
I have 1990 LC80. Problem is that 80 models last production year was something like 1997? I live in Finland and 80 series was last good model from local Toyota dealership . After that only shitty 100 models with IFS front. They produce still good models but they are not in Toyota Finlands catalog and thats is too bad. If you want to buy this years model real 4x4 with solid axles, almost only good option is Jeep.
Mika, there are 100 series with solid axle front, they call them a 105 series, like an 80 series but more comfortable, the independent front isn’t so bad as you think, perfectly fine for anything but hard core rock crawling
the LC wins, again. beefier axles, body on frame, semi-floating axles, etc.
Does lc80 have beefier axle than the rubicon? I didn’t know that.
You mean full-floating axles on the 80. ;-)
@@4WDisLife In the rear - for sure! The full-floating axles can handle a lot of abuse because the drive shaft is not used to carry the weight of the car - that job is done by a stand alone wheel hub. The drive shaft is comparable in size with the Jeeps Dana 44 shaft. Toyotas 9.5" diff in the rear is almost overkill but also reduces ground clearance.
The front axle of the 80 has a smaller and "weaker" diff.
@@t0nit04 I see. Well I am sure glad that my tundra has a 10.5 rear
LC80 is fkn legend
LC has free float axles
many take off the front sway bar or put a quick disconnect. LC has a shorter wheel base.
LC 80 is more capable
Agree. I wonder how the new wrangler would do with the new free floating axles.
Land cruiser 80 series is the best car ever made, Toyota understood the effect of this car on their revenue if they keep producing, so they changed the quality of later series. Am I wrong!
Yea. Wish they still make 70 series like overseas.
My 95fzj80 is out front taking a nap
Best of luck
Getting ready to rebuild the front axle when I have a day it's not being driven ...
Cruiser wayyy better overall. Reliability. Overbuilt drive shafts, ring gears, everything.
LC80 on top
Sure
Take a jeep if you wanna get there. Take a Toyota if you wanna come back.
Well said
4:35 why do a test if the test parameters are not as equal as possible? The Land Cruiser tires were aired down to 20 PSI, while the Jeep tires were still at street pressures.
I had to work with what I got, they are not there for me to make a perfectly comparable test and filming, so had to work with what I got.
@@4WDisLife I respect your response. Thanks
@@terrarecon appreciate it. I am very proud of the jeep vs bronco video we did in November last year, we planned the hack out of that one and it shows it’s a more thought after detailed comparison. Hopefully as this channel grows we will be able to get more tests carried out like that. Cheers.
LC80 ALL THE WAY!!!
For sure
80's queens.................
Long live the queen
Like on a chessboard, the Queen owns it!
Cruiser all day ! Frfr
The driver of the land cruiser is more trained and aggressive driver than the jeep wrangler
The tlc 80 makes all look so easy … its not very hard track but still… “honey, lets go get some milk from the store”
Haha yea. The only challenge is the rolling rock hill climb, the difficulty changes with different weather condition.
Land Cruiser life
Yea man.
Jeep fan forever, but only because the Landcruiser aired down, it won.
Both are solid vehickes
JEEP 🌟
But Toyota is Good, Of course !!!
TK🇳🇴
Toyota all the time
I tend to agree
@@4WDisLife your Tundra will outlast my Jeep. I'm 100% sure lol. My friend is on his third (the first one he's still beating to death with his lawncare company and he can't destroy it). The second one saved his life when he got hit by a semi truck and survived. Toyota saved my friends life - his Tundra did. 100%. I'm sure he'll get 300k miles out of the replacement one .
@@off-roadingexplained8417 appreciate the kinda words. I do intend to hold on to mine for a long long time
@@off-roadingexplained8417 you will be amazed how well and 80 does in an accident, they are heavy for a reason,, we call them pigs and joke about how they hate mud, but they are built really well...
Toyota land cruiser best car ever make the best I own one 94 drive every day has 460000 miles isthe besti do good maintenance for sure special oil change every 50000milles
La diferencia es que uno dura 35 años y el otro 70años
Pretty much.
Both drivers need to know how to use low gear. I can tell both of them were in High gear!
Too much wheel spin
Sorry to break it to you but both were in 4low
@@4WDisLife stock differentials on the Cruiser?
@@sun_dreaming yessir
I mean it’s a little unfair between the two the Toyota got a run and go up the hill the jeep basically from a stop
The toyota landcruiser all the way
I find it funny why buy a old land cruiser that has 300k miles on it that soon will die don't get me wrong its my dream car but they don't make them anymore in the us :( so we get the over over used ones 300k is its near end life expectancy:( you could buy a new or older jeep qith 1/3rd that
3:48 super 90% 4:50 super 50%
The reliability of the Toyota over the Jeep isn’t arguable. Toyota for the win.
right on.
Toyota, the one and only …👍👍👍❤️…!
Yessir.
Lol landcruiser can disconnect the front. You just need a couple of wrenches
Sure
@@4WDisLife I hate the word sure. It's so pointless. What are you trying to say?
Sorry, Toyota lc80 twin lock win. not to mention the lc80 is over 30 years old car. Its should be old lc80 vs old wrangler. Its like an adult trying to pick a fight with old people.
...and the old person kicking their ass 😄
And the old people till beat the adult lol
@@rikwilliams388 yup no doubt 🤣🤣
@@4WDisLife yes indeed, absolutely beast🤣
Left hand drive land cruiser??!?!
yes
@@4WDisLife how?
@@timeless_glory8_AKA_lockie there was usdm lc80 with triple lockers
Most Vehicles outside the states are left hand drive, most Lc80's were diesel also
80 series for the W
It does win me over.
I’ll take the Land Cruiser over the Jeep any day!
land cruises 80 win
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Lc all the way..no comparison
The jeep will get you there, the cruiser will get you home
The jeep is on highway pressure???? Why hahah
Cuz it’s a jeep lol
@@4WDisLife 😂😂 all that uneeded drivetrain shock and feeling every Little Rock inside the car, the 40 PSI club has a new member 😅
@@gabemiller9873 trust me. I have shamed him several times in a jokingly way lol
@@4WDisLife haha good 🤙
Typical inexperienced driver "I don't need to air down" . . So ignorant. We had a jeep burn to the ground 2 years ago on the OBX because he didn't air down and didn't run 4LO. Trans overheated and spewed on to exhaust... it burnt to the ground before firetruck arrived.
Wait. There is firetrucks on OBX?
80 series won that one
Honestly I'd say the land cruiser did better.
One day jeep will put long travel fully independent suspension on the Wrangler and. Redesign it.
Eventually...
So much resistance...
Wrangler needs a re design and it will be better... For now we have the Cherokees (grand and non grand ) because Wrangler fans are so die hard lol.
Every other jeep has fully independent suspension... It's odd... But true....
You do realize that the Land Cruiser here also had a solid front axle, right?
IFS sure is nice on road, or in high speed offroad scenarios.
@@4WDisLife Most definitely. But is it as strong in the kind of terrain you're showing in these cool shots here? Broken CV joints say "Negative, Ghostrider."
@@TradesmanOutdoorAdventures I see what you are saying, I do believe for the smaller trucks ifs they are weaker and is designed to be the failure point if anything goes, instead of the front diff. However, for a full size truck, I do know that their ifs and steering components are way beefier than say 4runner or tacoma's. I would hope the threshold for breaking them is much higher (knock on wood), also in the effort of not having that happen, i try to not send anything, and added a rear locker for a more controlled action. :)
The new Cherockee is just a lifted Alfa Romeo Giulietta... the real last Cherockee is the KK gen wich in the US is under the Liberty name
LandCruiser took the harder line!! Jeep why? Why would you buy a Jeep? They’re junk…
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toyota is better
I surely like toyotas.
Landcruiser all day Jeep is pure junk video confirms it… always with an excuse its not air down…
Jeeps are literal trash in comparison. Toyota 🤙
Only one vehicle reigned here...the Landcruiser.
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