Thanks all. Still shooting and testing the fp. If you missed it and are interested feel free to check out the written review which has more photos, more tests, shows the color modes, has some ISO tests against Sony and more. Yes I still do written reviews at the website!... LINK: www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/11/11/sigma-fp-camera-review-tried-one-then-bought-it-heres-why/
Now that firmware 2.0 claims to have better autofocus, it would be helpful for us to know if you might reply with your experience with AF after the upgrade. Thanks
Thanks for the great videos! I’m mostly a cine guy but I shoot a lot of stills (mostly medium and of film), so great to see you like it as a stills cam. I just picked up my own fp, thanks in part to the information you’ve provided, so kudos to the service you’re doing to the community. I noticed in some of these shots that you have some flowers and insect shots that are very close focusing. Are you using a macro lens? I’m looking for a recommendation, since I’m switching from Sony mirrorless where I’ve used a Minolta Maxxum 100/2.8, a real sleeper. That won’t adapt well to L-Mount. I have a Leica LTM set, a Canon FD set, a Leica M set, and a Russian set. I have a few EF lenses but manual focus lenses are the way to go for cine. The only Voigtlander I have is the 12mm LTM. Thanks!
Love your contents on sigma fp. Nostalgic but not obsolete on tech of camera. I, too love to play with old mechanical lenses and capture the shots by myself not the ai inside modern cameras. Voigtlander is my type of lens manufacturer and they do an excellent job on recent lenses.
Interesting camera and informative review(s) - thanks. Sigma seem to be bigging up the internal HDR on this. Can you write raw from that or is it just jpeg? Any chance of a test? I did look in the manual but it didn't say. I'm interested from the point of view of property photography (real estate) - say 2 stops under, 2 stops over internal hdr on a shot with a window in it. Thanks.
I’ve just bought the camera. I agree, it’s fantastic for all the reasons you have stated in your two great reviews. One question? What specific adaptor do you use for your Voigtlander M Lenses?
You are one among very few that "gets" what is Sigma after with the Fp. I don't know what your experience is with the foveon sensors but I urge you to find a Quattro H (sa mount) and give it a test. You will be surprised.
If I'm looking for a cinema camera, I don't want image stabilization and autofocus because those are things I want to control myself and can harm the image in some cases.
Yeah, electronic IS usually involves a crop,too, which will mess up your matching shots. I remember when we thought autofocus was only for wimpy amateurs. I like Pentax M series legacy lenses, so this would be great with those. Still, I'm considering the Sony a6600, mainly due to its swivel LCD screen and EVF.
So better than the Leica SL2 for photos ? with M lenses? I am ready to buy an SL2 for portraits, street, travel...but if the FP is even good for 3x cheaper! I will go for it! :-)
I said it has better color for my tastes over the SL and has much better low light/High ISO over the original SL. Didn't say it was a better camera as it's not. The SL is larger, has an EVF, superb build, faster AF and is great with M lenses. The fp is smaller, built just as well, but has no EVF, has a smaller/weaker battery system, has unusable AF for video but for me, better color and IQ over the SL. It should as it's a much more modern sensor and it seems Sigma's color is between Leica and Panasonic. Thank you.
that's very good cinema feel capture in a small camera, but in auto focus very poor, especial in low light environment, may be use of manual would be better, anyway I like it too !
The best M adapters are talked about in the written review where all photos are shown, and much more is talked about as well as ISO tests, color modes, etc. I use the Novoflex adapter for M lenses. The Leica branded one will work as well and is considered the best. For Canon I am using the Sigma adapter now (testing it) as it has AF. My Adapter was $20 and does not allow AF for Canon. I recommend the Novoflex M adapter and the Sigma MC21 for Canon glass. Seems to work well.
There is a setting for S35 framing and some modes have that anyway, Ive had the camera for about a week and am just getting into it. However the stills shooting needs a serious firmware update, the lag between taking photos is prominent.. unless I have set it up incorrectly. Totally possible. I am going to look through the manual.
Thomas Fricke does this work as an 18mm full-frame with some vignetting or are you using it as a 27mm in crop mode? If yes do you set this manually or does the camera auto-detect it?
@@akhyarrayhka4048 Going through a mostly photo phase now but not really invested to have dedicated body for each. Yet that's probably the kind of thinking that will have me doing exactly that after a few disappointing purchases ha
Other camera need a device such as Elgato Cam Link 4K to fuction as a webcam, but Sigma advertised this camera to be plug n play ready webcam. So, could you review the webcam function? Thanks.
so does hd mean the same as 1080p for this camera? Also, are the file sizes super big when in hd and using all-i? that's how i intend to use it if i get one of these
Dont get it for that reason. Its 1080p is line skipped, not oversampled. Which means it isnt a sharp 1080p, ontop of already being a large file because All I is an editing friendly compression. All around it just doesnt add up unless you plan on using the 12 bit 4k or for photos.
Yes they do but there are many who are not cinematographers buying this camera and expect good AF with video. Sony does it (FX9, a cinema camera, has amazing AF as does the A7III), Canon does it well with the lowly C100..so some cinematographers use AF at times otherwise these pricey cinema cameras would not focus on, and have fast AF. The FP does not have any usable AF for video, and many were wondering about it. ; ) Thank you.
Thanks all. Still shooting and testing the fp. If you missed it and are interested feel free to check out the written review which has more photos, more tests, shows the color modes, has some ISO tests against Sony and more. Yes I still do written reviews at the website!... LINK: www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/11/11/sigma-fp-camera-review-tried-one-then-bought-it-heres-why/
Now that firmware 2.0 claims to have better autofocus, it would be helpful for us to know if you might reply with your experience with AF after the upgrade. Thanks
This camera just has such a beautiful look.
I agree.
Thanks for the great videos! I’m mostly a cine guy but I shoot a lot of stills (mostly medium and of film), so great to see you like it as a stills cam. I just picked up my own fp, thanks in part to the information you’ve provided, so kudos to the service you’re doing to the community.
I noticed in some of these shots that you have some flowers and insect shots that are very close focusing. Are you using a macro lens? I’m looking for a recommendation, since I’m switching from Sony mirrorless where I’ve used a Minolta Maxxum 100/2.8, a real sleeper. That won’t adapt well to L-Mount.
I have a Leica LTM set, a Canon FD set, a Leica M set, and a Russian set. I have a few EF lenses but manual focus lenses are the way to go for cine. The only Voigtlander I have is the 12mm LTM.
Thanks!
Love your contents on sigma fp. Nostalgic but not obsolete on tech of camera. I, too love to play with old mechanical lenses and capture the shots by myself not the ai inside modern cameras. Voigtlander is my type of lens manufacturer and they do an excellent job on recent lenses.
Thank you Frank!
Whoa!
This footage is unreal
Nicely done. I'm still waffling between this and a Sony a6600.
Kudos to Debbie, a cute and patient model.
What did you end up with?
I‘d definitely get this…
@@jimi272 So far, nothing. I'm not in a hurry. This camera appears to have no flash sync.
Hello, thank you for the good job, did you try any 15mm M mount lens?
Interesting camera and informative review(s) - thanks. Sigma seem to be bigging up the internal HDR on this. Can you write raw from that or is it just jpeg? Any chance of a test? I did look in the manual but it didn't say. I'm interested from the point of view of property photography (real estate) - say 2 stops under, 2 stops over internal hdr on a shot with a window in it. Thanks.
Thank you for the nice review, just wondering if you have tried Nikon Noct 58/1.2 with the Sigma FP? Is it as good as with Leica SL?
Do you think a metabones adapter would improve the autofocus capabilities on the sigma fp?
I’ve just bought the camera. I agree, it’s fantastic for all the reasons you have stated in your two great reviews. One question? What specific adaptor do you use for your Voigtlander M Lenses?
I use the Novoflex which is stated and linked to in the written review (which has much more than the videos). Thanks!
Thanks. Great written review.
can you do a revisit to the original Sigma FP
1:26 Sounds like Detektivbyrån though I thought I heard all their discography... and it has unexpected processing... music credits???
May I know what M to L mount adapter are you using for FP?
You are one among very few that "gets" what is Sigma after with the Fp. I don't know what your experience is with the foveon sensors but I urge you to find a Quattro H (sa mount) and give it a test. You will be surprised.
Great music
Is the autofocus reliable on this camera? Eye autofocus to be precise.
Its really good! How was recording on ssd after the update?
Not sure, have not tried an SSD yet. I am not a video guy, more of a photo guy. ; )
Its fantastic to have ssd... The only thig is it consumes lil more battery
If I'm looking for a cinema camera, I don't want image stabilization and autofocus because those are things I want to control myself and can harm the image in some cases.
Yeah, electronic IS usually involves a crop,too, which will mess up your matching shots.
I remember when we thought autofocus was only for wimpy amateurs. I like Pentax M series legacy lenses, so this would be great with those.
Still, I'm considering the Sony a6600, mainly due to its swivel LCD screen and EVF.
Nice & Thanks :)
Thank you.
So better than the Leica SL2 for photos ? with M lenses? I am ready to buy an SL2 for portraits, street, travel...but if the FP is even good for 3x cheaper! I will go for it! :-)
don't get OCD just be happy with what you order , this is his opinion , I have sigma fp and I think it sucks big time
I said it has better color for my tastes over the SL and has much better low light/High ISO over the original SL. Didn't say it was a better camera as it's not. The SL is larger, has an EVF, superb build, faster AF and is great with M lenses. The fp is smaller, built just as well, but has no EVF, has a smaller/weaker battery system, has unusable AF for video but for me, better color and IQ over the SL. It should as it's a much more modern sensor and it seems Sigma's color is between Leica and Panasonic. Thank you.
I think there will be a firmware update that's still upcoming that can fix some of those. they kind of had to rush this release in time for holidays.
that's very good cinema feel capture in a small camera, but in auto focus very poor, especial in low light environment, may be use of manual would be better, anyway I like it too !
NICE MOVING IMAGE
Thank you.
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by the way, do you have a link or reference of the best adaptor for M lenses and Canon lenses?
I'd guess sigma's own adapters would work best with the camera.
The best M adapters are talked about in the written review where all photos are shown, and much more is talked about as well as ISO tests, color modes, etc. I use the Novoflex adapter for M lenses. The Leica branded one will work as well and is considered the best. For Canon I am using the Sigma adapter now (testing it) as it has AF. My Adapter was $20 and does not allow AF for Canon. I recommend the Novoflex M adapter and the Sigma MC21 for Canon glass. Seems to work well.
What happens when you mount T/TL lenses from the Leica TL? Will they work or will they be cropped in someway?
There is a setting for S35 framing and some modes have that anyway, Ive had the camera for about a week and am just getting into it. However the stills shooting needs a serious firmware update, the lag between taking photos is prominent.. unless I have set it up incorrectly. Totally possible. I am going to look through the manual.
I use still use my 18mm TL on the fp. The image quality with the fp is better than with the TL2 body.
Thomas Fricke does this work as an 18mm full-frame with some vignetting or are you using it as a 27mm in crop mode? If yes do you set this manually or does the camera auto-detect it?
Wow! This or wait for the Foveon sensor?
Foveon if you're a photo kind of guy
Definitely wait
Foveon full frame will not do video, will not be good in low light. It will be slow just like all previous Foveon bodies.
@@akhyarrayhka4048 Going through a mostly photo phase now but not really invested to have dedicated body for each. Yet that's probably the kind of thinking that will have me doing exactly that after a few disappointing purchases ha
Other camera need a device such as Elgato Cam Link 4K to fuction as a webcam, but Sigma advertised this camera to be plug n play ready webcam. So, could you review the webcam function? Thanks.
That is one expensive webcam lol
@@ohad.5890 would be still interesting for livestreaming
so does hd mean the same as 1080p for this camera? Also, are the file sizes super big when in hd and using all-i? that's how i intend to use it if i get one of these
Dont get it for that reason. Its 1080p is line skipped, not oversampled. Which means it isnt a sharp 1080p, ontop of already being a large file because All I is an editing friendly compression. All around it just doesnt add up unless you plan on using the 12 bit 4k or for photos.
@@DrWNoLs oh okay, makes sense. Thank you!
How is the autofocus now????? Heavily debating a a7iii or sigma FP.
I have the same question haha
I'd choose A7iii over this if you want quick AF. Sigma's camera are not the best when its about AF. But surely they have amazing IQ.
@@ElmarJournal yeah at this point with waiting on going with the a7siii
Very Sigmaesque image especially noticeable in the background blur and color
The background blur is only because of the lens used though
What about flash? Sync speed?
1/30
I have not used a flash since 1993, so I am not the one to ask. Sync speed though is 1/30s.
Sigma will release an update on auto focus soon I'm sure.
yeah, that's what they we're saying prior to the release, but had to rush on the firmware thats ok enough for sale
For low Q.... that looks pretty dammed good.
Face detection seems to work fine on real faces 😂
Unusuable AF. Just use Z6!
Yessssss do Juice WRLD
Cinematographers use manual focus, videographers use AF.
Yes they do but there are many who are not cinematographers buying this camera and expect good AF with video. Sony does it (FX9, a cinema camera, has amazing AF as does the A7III), Canon does it well with the lowly C100..so some cinematographers use AF at times otherwise these pricey cinema cameras would not focus on, and have fast AF. The FP does not have any usable AF for video, and many were wondering about it. ; ) Thank you.
Please do a session for Juicewrld please, hes a 21 rapper that was recently taken from us to early. R.I.P legend 💨🙏
"I tested this in HD low qual ..." for WHAT???
This is like testing a Porsche on Nürburgring with a rev Limit to 4000 RPM.
Get a sony a9 and get over with it