UniFi Protect AI Theta Cameras Announced!
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- AI Theta is a new lineup of cameras for UniFi Protect featuring spectacularly small and unobtrusive design where the lens of the camera is separated from the body and brains of the camera. This separation allows for some unique installation opportunities in situations where a camera should have a very discrete low profile.
In this video, I take a look at the announcement video for the AI Theta, discuss its features, and give my thoughts on this innovative new device.
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Awesome something else for the “Out of Stock” category
Unifi is seriously going to have to address availability issues on this new stuff.
Not only on the new stuff. Anything in their lineup is extremely hard to impossible to get.
Don't worry, when you don't have anything to eat this won't matter as much...
Axis did this years ago ;o)
Exactly! It’s ridiculous their products are always unavailable
Came here to make the same comment essentially. Love the thinking they put into stuff, but serves no purpose if you can never get it. And also don’t appreciate the price hikes on products they announce but never truly release.
Awesome. Maybe we'll have it in stock in 2025.
I love how small they are. You can place them all over the house, keep track of the surroundings while not looking too obvious (like our Lorex cameras) LOL
I am so excited for these. Literally on a perfect project now; high-end restaurant and hotel bar.
Wonder what night vision capability these little guys will have? Doubt they have any built in IR illumination, but maybe that’s some accessory product pending for applications that would need it.
im liking this modular design very much!
Agreed about your G4 speculation.
Chris, another aspect of having the microphone/speaker as a separate accessory would meet the requirement in some jurisdictions that make recording audio illegal without dual/all party consent. Similar to the way there is a G4 Pro model available without audio capability.
G4 Pro without audio is due to chip shortages. You can disable the mic on the regular G4 Pro to comply with local laws.
@@yt310yt I’m aware of the disable feature in the G4 Pro. I can also tell you that it didn’t work properly at first. I opened a ticket with Ubiquiti early on where we could still hear audio with the slider set to off. That then led to the permanently disabled function.
I wonder if you can just use the audio module for wanting just to pick up audio in areas.
Great catch and thanks for your thoughts. But GA will be EA +300% price tag in upcoming shortages imho. As the UDR price went up dramatic in GA.
These look great. I would also love a G4 Flex!!!
Fingers crossed. Technically I could use this one to replace my G3 ceiling mounted cameras but unless those flush fittings allowed good visibility even from the corner of the room, I'll have to wait for the G4 (which will also be probably half the price of this)
I think they should also add a flush mount wall accessory enclosure , something that would give you the ability to aim the camera to a certain degree, instead of being fixed straight ahead
this is a great Idea, but they need to worry more about getting supply chain and supplies of current products, and maybe doing something about the over changing of current products on other sites. Possibly getting what you currently have bug fixes done. Unifi is doing what Apple does keep adding but never fix or enhance what you already have.
Their upgraded APs etc. are quite the upgrades unlike Apple phone upgrades.
Are your classes also offered online?
Hopefully the g3s drop down in price soon with the new range coming out would like to get some g3 for use at home
The form factor is awesome. Instead of next to an AP, what if they made an AP with an integrated camera builtin. Would just need to pull down and swivel slightly. Any existing AP could be replaced and no need to run a new cable.
I was thinking the same thing, but with a fisheye lens and software dewarping you wouldn't even need the camera to be movable.
I wonder if Chris will tell us he's not at home? Never disappoints!
People counts are also available for my series 4 camera's.
Coming to every air b&b you’ll never want to stay in…..
Is there any word on water-resistance yet? I couldn't find anything about IP ratings on the website... Would be interesting to know if you could also use that camera outside where you don't want it to be super big-brother like to see.
makes me wonder if some hotels will put this in room now that its harder to find.. thou it is a great product
Nice camera, but when are they going to get a floodlight cam?
I wonder if the AI is done in hardware in the camera or done via software in the controller / recording device?
almost certainly the camera. that's what all the other manufactuers do. it's do intensive for the controller to do it all. that's why the hefty price tag. the camera needs a much more robust set of hardware.
What is the cable that attaches the lens and the main unit for as long as 30 meters? Is it based on USB even when USB has the maximum length of 20 feet (6 meters)?
I just received one of these cameras and the cable that it comes with to connect the controlling unit to the camera is just 1 metre (3.3 ft) long! What they don't tell you is that you cannot connect just a "normal" USB cable to it as it has to carry video! Is the specifications it just states that the cable is "Theta proprietary", but nowhere to be seen in either the store or Early Access is the cable that is 30Ft long!
@@LeeSteventon Thats true i also got one and tried to connect it with USB type C. It does not work and there is no longer cabel available on the market. So yeah it says the camera can be set up 30metres away but you cannot do that because there is no cable available that is longer then the provided 1m cable 🤭
what's the point of the new stuff if i can't get a uvnr or a unvr pro?
I'm curious how well these will adopt to other manufacturers NVRs. I've clients where more discreet cameras in a couple locations, not all, would be welcomed but we aren't going to trade out an entire AXIS NVR for a couple units. These units seem comparable to the Axis Modular P12 series.
They probably won’t.
These really remind me of the AXIS F series... P12 replaces the F series though
it would be intersting to see a NVR Mother Brain box, so theres just the cables to the cameras
These would be perfect in conjunction with fake cameras if you still want the presence of visible camera yet still protect them from being destroyed.
is this camera compatible with 3rd-party NVRs (ONVIF compliant)? if so, i wonder if it is suitable as a peephole camera...
Unifi abhors interoperability so I would not bank on it.
I was able to order one this morning for residential use. But after reading the specs, I’m not seeing night vision…? I may not end up wanting this.
That's a great point!
Big Brother. Know that a camera is there is better than a hidden camera.
Not if they are expecingt cameras and you have visible ones deployed but don't want them seeing all of them so they can map out their travel path and blind spot advantage.
Does it have night vision?
Called an MVP in the software world... Minimal Viable Product... Meaning they release it with basic functions for it to "work", then deploy enhancements and features over time.
This is going to be like the Xovis stuff... Just need stereoscopic features
Nice
is IR night vision missing ??
I could see this being used instead of/complimentary to a peep hole on a front door
Not at chance unless you're cool with putting a 29mm hole in your door.
They were in stock, I almost bought one. It was in my cart. But I just can’t justify it yet. One day…
Looks nice but i rather see that they dont promise thinga and later you dont see back in the product. Like on Cloudkey plus where the usb c still has no use, G4 doorbell and the vingerprint/nfc tag dooest still work... And then im not yet talking about the stock.... Innovation is very importent but holding promises aswell.
Lens dewarping is a total MUST have. I do not care much for GoPro cameras just because of the lens distortion.
gopros have had linear mode forever.
No IP rating or mention of indoor/outdoor in the data sheet so I'm going to have to assume this is indoor only?
Yes appears to be an indoor camera.
@@CrosstalkSolutions A lot of people used the G3 instant cameras outdoors when not directly in the elements. Do we think this camera will be capable of this also? I have one in hand now, and it feels like it's probably going to be OK to use in this way....though I am sure it won't be covered on a waranty when used that way. No IR also makes it somewhat less useful than a Flex or something else discreet....but it's so tempting.
It's a slightly bigger (yet sleeker) AXIS P1214.
Sure! If you think 1280x720 is the same as 3264x2448 ;)
@@CezarTrifoi Well I'm just saying this isn't new. I installed 4 P1214s in 2013.
I have been waiting for some company to come out with a device like this. I use Passive IRs in house to turn lights on when the room is entered but due to the characteristics it requires quite a long delay to turn lights off after the person leaves.. Im hoping this device will solve this problem due to its AI software that detects people coming and going. The delay could be quite short..
Reminds me axis modular
Hidden cameras are not very well deterrents. But when it comes down to using them for traffic counting then yes, I can use them. We already do building these ourselves, way cheaper but obviously not completely Intergrated.
I seen it in stock this morning.
I have been a big fan of UBNT products for a while now although the non stop inventory shortages have had me looking elsewhere recently. Bought a new house and was going to go all UBNT cameras to go with the UDM-Pro I already had. No stock anywhere for MSRP for well over a year. And that was with me being on the in-stock email list. Ended up going with a Reolink system and it wont be the last system that gets a alternative brand replacement.
they have restocks every morning. I picked up a G4 pro and G4 instant a couple weeks ago without much trouble.
@@jimmaul They do not update with remotely such frequency on the Canadian site...
@@Fullion-CA oh yeah I've heard that. Unfortunate for sure.
Don't rely on the emails. I was able to get stuff by just randomly checking as well as following on the ubiquiti subreddit. There's an in stock notification bot that's is halfway decent.
@@casualreefkeeping Another reef person with Unify hardware, nice
This concept isn't entirely new. Hikvision has had this for years. Now with all the political drama with Hikvision, it isn't really an option for most of us now. Glad to see someone else is using this concept
Why in the World are the usb-c connections not locking in some way? Just wait until someone pops those off inside a wall.
How does the 360 degrees lens work? I should imagine flush to wall or ceiling can only give a maximum of 180 degrees FOV.
People counting has been around for a while in other cameras at a much cheaper price point, but this form factor seems to be unique.
The displays are just wanky marketing stuff really as far as I am concerned. Most of these things will be mounted in locations where people do not look at them. Like the switches get mounted in racks. I wish they would scrap the displays and work on either reducing the price that little bit or getting the software for the device spot on.
For people in the Unifi Protect ecosystem, these are quite a unqiue form factor and definitely have a use case. We will see if they ever move out of EA, as Ubiquiti have a track record of abandoning EA devices.
Hmmm akin to the Axis F and FA cameras and receivers.. I love Ubiquiti, but their inability to supply their products to the markets makes me a bit nervous to invest heavily in them. Also the extremely poor quality of the NVRs from Ubiquiti is not good.
The idea of using USB C instead of ethernet makes it smoother and easier to install ( though you now have just 30m run)
I don't think there is anything smoother or easier about USB-C vs. ethernet.
@@bradley3549 What i mean is in the installation process, you can drill smaller holes, no need for crimping ends of an rj45. ie just plug n play
@@dwisdoms Having just measured a number of USB-C and Ethernet cables, the USB-C comes in around 11-12mm and the RJ45s were around 13-14mm at their widest point. That's not a big difference, IMO. You can buy any length ethernet cable you want premade also. And I would consider the ability to customize the length and replace ends of cat6 a pro and not a con.
I wish it was PoE. USB C isn't as easy to run the cable
It is PoE…to the base. The USB-C is from the base to the lens.
@@CrosstalkSolutions yeah but the intent is still to hide these things in walls and whatnot which will likely be running USB C through the walls. It's still very cool, just seems difficult
looks like the 360 will only be 20FpS and the normal will be 24FpS so don't know where they have "High Frame Rate" I don't get the thought process on that.
It may function like the G4 pro, where selecting 50FPS requires a resolution change. It’s possible the EA data sheet doesn’t reflect that.
In the security camera world that is unfortunately high fps. A $1200+ dollar Axis 360 cam will drop to 15fps when dewarping is enabled.
The privacy implications of these almost hidden cameras worry me. I wonder who will want to buy these. Often the point of public surveillance is to be obvious to the people being surveilled as it deterrs some people.
dude, there have already been cameras this small for 40 years. they also install cameras in fake smoke detector bodies and other such things. You have already been spied on in this way most of your life. (i'm a security contractor)
Can’t wait to never be able to buy one
It will perpetually be out of stock so this item does not matter.
I have been asking UniFi if there were any plans to do a small form factor camera that could be used as a door 'peep-hole' camera or a dedicated one as they do 'security cameras' but I never got a reply back in the last three years of asking. Hmmmm, this has possibilities.
Ubiquiti is now in the spy business then.
Take my money !
What was I thinking, they will never be in stock regardless
I wonder if 2 cameras can be plugs into the same base station?
No, only 1 camera at a time and the second USB-C Connector is used for the optional microphone/speaker
Hey you're in my neck of the woods, I live in Round Rock just 15 minutes north of Austin, wish I'd known I would've loved to come meet you.
Reading the specs on the unit. The cable for the camera back to the magic box is 1m usb cable. The 30m is the length I suspect is the length of the ethernet cable it can use.
And then reading their install guide... they want you to mount the magic box to the wall behind the camera. Huh? How is that going to work as you need a 1 1/8" hole saw for the camera to get access to the inside of the wall say in your house or business. This seems completely worthless unless you have access to the other side of the wall as you have 1m usb to play with to get to the ethernet port. Will have to wait and see some install videos. But from the docs on their site...i'm not holding out much hope for it.
It won't be in stock, who cares?!
And by the time it is, it'll be discontinued
And when it is unifi will allow the purchase of any many as they can then we can find them on ebay selling at 400 percent the original price
Where the stock?
Little sick of all these "paper" launches..
💯💯💯
Out of stock everywhere meh.
looks like some of the B-roll is filmed in Portland
Again stuff BUT Ubiquity never has their products in stock. No matter how superior the products are if they are not in stock they are useless. But some Ubiquity sells all if not most their protect, talk and access products line to scalpers.
Omg, the future of humanity is so grim.
Ubiquispy HD
Axis have been doing this for ages
These will be popular for AirBnB's to spy on your customers in the shower and stuff like that.
Lol when was the last time we could actually order products from them? What is the business model lately? Just networking equipment and they kneecapped the video aka protect category?
I made the comment before I watched the video and I’m not impressed. The whole benefit of Ethernet Poe cameras is a single cable to the device. Nice that the camera is slim but now I have to figure out where to mount and discreetly hide this box? How and I going to integrate this into conduit? I’m just sad that UI can’t get it together. I was all prepped to go all into the ecosystem but… stopped at networking and am stuck… so I haven’t continued with any of the products. Just get rid of the line or rebrand it to something else and stop pulling my leg. But I do enjoy the crosstalk solutions video. On that note I wish there was more serious review of the product but I get it’s just a preview and not a demo but even still I start to question how unbiased the information is even if helpful.
Last weekend in Houston there was a conference that ended up being a super spreader event. Seems like 1 in 3 came away with covid. Hope your group fared batter.
22mm exposure that requires a 29mm hole saw... 🤔🤔🤔 I hope that's a typo in their installation instructions because 29mm is HUGE!!!
29mm is around an inch. That is by no means huge at all.
Hikvision have been doing split body cameras for years. Not a totally new concept...
This is just a standard lipstick camera with an external network attached controller. Very common design. Probably uses interchangeable M12 lens. I like these type personally, but for security a visible camera is better as a deterrent. This is fine for retail locations like apple, where you would have to be outright stupid to think your not being recorded, or in an office ... though I seriously hope your not thinking of putting a camera in every single office pointing at the poor fool who works for you to micromanage them into bashing the keyboard every 12 seconds.
Hopefully you can run the microphone accessory on the same cable with a usbc splitter. usb4 is capable of transferring a lot of data and power, and at 30m its definitely fiber optic cable. No need for another cable just for a small audio stream.
Personally against AI in camera. Cameras should be dumb video streamers, ai belongs in the controller soft/hardware which can be easily upgraded and can process all the cameras. Only excuse to put in on camera itself is selective offline storage and uploading, so it can only upload events of interest, which is only needed if the surveillance system is not on the same network
Overall not impressed, but frankly there are no usbc lipstick cameras I can find on the market, and native poe ones are... very sparse. So its a welcome addition, even though I don't care for smart cameras
More pointless overpriced UI products when they still cant manage to maintain stock on their core products after 5+ years
Would absolutely love to see this form factor from other brands, as I'm not a fan of UniFi's ecosystem.
I really don't like the idea of this product. It just seems like an even easier way for people to put security cameras in places they shouldn't.
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Ahh another Unifi product that will be sold out.
From an otherwise fantastic product line, what an absolute stupid design for something that could have been great. If this is meant for discrete installation having a giant dongle that you can't stick into a wall is a BIG miss (side note: what is the purpose of a screen?). How is this supposed to be mounted in an area where discretion matters?!?!
We have new privacy laws in Canada especially in Ontario that prohibits this type of camera this is a lawsuit waiting to happen hardpass.
Dude can you stop pausing the video? Just let it finish then talk about it.