INDIAN Bishop cautions Catholic CHARISMATIC Preachers ( Joseph Dinesh)
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- Read the full document here - dioceseofmangalore.com/bishop...
00:00 Intro
00:44 Appreciation of the Charismatic Renewal
02:00 Charismatic Renewal to the Authority of the Catholic Church
04:20 Complaints against the Charismatic Renewal
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PRAISE GOD FOR OUR BISHOP'S DECLARATION.
PRAYING FOR CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC EVANGELIZATION TO BE THE MAIN SOURCE TO PROTECT OUR SAINTLY CHURCH TO REMAIN THE SAME FOR EVER. AMEN.
Very good action taken by our Bishop. God bless Him.
Please pray for The Restoration of Traditional Latin mass
A very Good initiative by the Bishop.
Praying for him, May God Give him Grace to Restore and Reform The Holy Mother Church.
Praying for The Restoration of Traditional Catholic Faith.
Yes. True.
We should pray for Bishop
Thank You JD for bringing out The Holy work of Bishop Peter Paul Saldanha.
May God bless him for protecting his Flocks from All dangers .
May God Grant him Grace to Be Courageous in defending The Deposit of Faith.
May God help him to Restore The Lost Tradition and Traditional Catholic Faith and practices.
God bless you Joseph Dinesh for working for The Restoration of Traditional Catholic Faith
I read whole document. But we need to guide the laity spiritually. Those priests who are in renewal ministry should accompany them. Bishop circular is very clearly mentioned about witnessing in life. I appreciate the courage in giving guidance by the Bishop.
Very good initiative...🙏🙏🙏
Bishop Peter has already proven to be a shepherd in charge by earlier asking the faithful to dutifully recite only the Nicene creed on Sundays and days of Obligation.
God Bless His excellency and his efforts to sustain the catholic faith in Mangalore
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
Well said Joseph appreciate your CZcams clarification to Bishop’s Document.
Regards,
Fr Bernard
*Clergy Anti Scriptural Preaching - false Gospel -br Jhonson Sequira's Gospel (JCILM) is authentic*
The Preaching
Of the Bishops
And priests is Anti Scriptural
They
Are *against* the
Manifestation of the charisms
Thus they betray
The very purpose of God
To His People
They want
Spiritually impotent Gospel
And
The gospel where
Work of the flesh manifest:
Thier oratory skills in sermons
And in Retreats,
Engineering skill,
Psychological tricks and skills,
Educational skills,
Organisational skills,
Anthropological skill
And
Running business
In the name
Of the Lord/
In the name of mission skills
To be exhibited
Bishop and priests are
Anti Charismatic gift:
Anti healing Ministry
Anti Deliverance Ministry
Anti Gift of tongues
And anti other Charismatic gift
Bishop in the circular
Cautions
Not to seek after
Charismatic Gifts
And
Quotes John of the cross
Jhon of the Cross' Teaching
Anti scriptural:
It is against the
Teaching of the Lord,
Teaching of the Apostle
Peter and Paul
Remember John of the cross
Lived in a
Time
Where the Church has
Driven away the
Holy Spirit out of the Church
And
Only at Vatican II
Pope opened the doors
To the Holy Spirit
And
Charismatic Renewal
Emerged afterwards
Therefore
John of the cross
Needs to be corrected !
(Cantalmessa says
Christian Theological institute
In Europe
Have kicked out Jesus)
Jesus commanded to
Heal
And deliver
Apostle Paul teaches
1 cor 14:1
Make love your aim,
And *EARNESTLY DESIRE*
The *spiritual gifts*,
Especially that
You may prophesy.
John of the cross Teaching
Violates this
Revealtion in scripture
Bishops and Priests
Because of their pride
Exhibit bias on
Praying in Tongues
This is against the
Scripture
I cor 14:9
Therefore,
My brothers and sisters,
Be eager to prophesy, a
And do *NOT FORBID* Speaking in tongues
They say
Marian Devotion
Is not an end in itself
But a means to go to Jesus
But when Charismatic have
Reached to Jesus
By adhering to the Gospel
They want to
Pull them out of Jesus
And
Force them
You go to Mary and saints
(Again and again
Invoke Mary and saints)
All Marian Devotions
Rosary,
Aparations
Etc
Even discerned and
Approved by the Church
Belongs to the
Private revealtion
They don't add anything
To the Revealed Word of God
No bishop
No priest
Can compel or force it
Upon the faithful
It may be Catholic
But Unchristian
And it is a grave offence
To compel
It is the abuse of the
Spiritual authority
Catholic Bishop/priests
Preaching/practice is
Against making
New Disciple of the Lord
From other faith
It is
A direct violation of
Christianity
This is not Christianity at all
This is
Anti Jesus Christ practice
They want tradition
Not
Life in the Spirit
The other day
A priest had held a meeting
It was on all saints day
Since people had missed
The mass
Some of them requested
Him for mass
He said
"It is not an obligatory mass,
You don't have to feel bad
If you had missed it
It is an optional mass"
Poor priest
Instead of telling
I am not interested/
I don't have time /
I don't have heart
He was so diplomatically
Trying to pacify the
Request
By Playing the trump card
Of obligation
And non obligation
And you expect the
Gospel of Grace to be preached
By the clergy?
Authentic charismatic Renewal
By the clergy?
"Charismatic Renewal"
"Charisms"
Not obligatory
They say
Sunday mass and
Days of obligation
And the rosary that we
Compelled you to pray
That is your prayer life
And
Not the relationship with God
Through Charismatic Renewal
They will say
Fundamentally
Bishop and priests
Violate
All these scriptural Teaching
They practice wrong
Therefore when
Person like
Brother Jhonson Sequira
Preaches authentic Gospel
They can't tolerate it
And judge his Preaching
As anti scriptural
(Though I have
Difference of opinion
About certain Teaching
Of Jhonson...
But such faulty Preaching
Are plentiful among
Catholic priests themselves;
Greatest faulty Preaching
Is supressing charisms)
Jesus said
In 14:12
"Very truly I tell you,
Whoever believes in me
Will Do The Works
I have been doing,
And they will do
*EVEN GREATER THINGS*
*THAN THESE*
Because I am going
To the Father
But priests and Bishops
Get extremely jelous
When laity do
Greater things
And
When crowd gather
Out of jelousy
Insecurity
Money minded
Commercial priests,
And spirituality
Currpted by Clericalism
They
Try to put obstacles
To the lay Ministry like
Br Sajith,
Br Prakash etc etc
And ignorantly say
"Preachers drawing
Attention to themselves"
No no no !!!
No Prakash
No tk George
No Sajith
No Wilfred
Have ever asked the crowd
To worship us
We have and all the laity
Have pointed out to Jesus
Exceptions may be there
But many more priests
I can show who
Draw attention to themselves
Therefore
Will you print a circular
And
Suspend the
Catholic priesthood ??????
Bishop and Priests
Practice false Gospel
Therefore our authentic Gospel
Sounds
"False Preaching"
To them
Bishops and Priests
Your discernment
About the Charismatic Renewal
And the
Lay Ministries
Has gone
Absolutely wrong
Because
Your Teaching/Preaching
And practice of
Christianity is wrong
You have
Substituted the
Your Gospel of Law and flesh
To
The Gospel of Grace
Preached by Jesus
And
The Apostles
It *is a curse*
Just to depend on
Clergy Preaching
Because Their Gospel
Is intended to
Keep the believer in Bondage
Intended to preach
Impotent Gospel
Clergy Preaching is
Secular
Not Spiritual
(Exceptions Noticed)
Kindly forward it to the Pope, Bishops, cardinal, priests, and lay leaders.... I own responsibility for each and every word spoken here....
Loving
Wilfred Sunil Rodrigues
God Forgives us in Christ Crucified Ministries
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
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@@jdosvd Please Pray for The Restoration of Traditional Catholic Faith
@@aliceshaletdsouza8252 Oh No ! Too Late for that as the apocalypse is at the doorstep.
Urgent Prayers for those going to hell please.
Queen and Mother of the Last Times Snatch us out of the clutches of Evil 😈
Please share the document link
It's in The Description.
What is sale of indulgence
Led by one who sits in the chair of Peter , who made an Image for the rebellious Apostate Martin Luther --
One community holds the reigns it's moved from being led by the spirit to the flesh.
Wrong people sitting in high seats. Resulting in chaos within the Renewal.
From the " My Heart Will Triumph " by Mirjana of Medjugorje
On the contrary, Our Lady has taught us that the blessing of Jesus only comes through a priest. “Their hands are blessed by my Son,” she said, and she often repeats that our priests do not need our judgment; they need our prayers. Many people abandon or reject faith because they find fault in a priest, but this is only an excuse. God will judge priests on how well they carried out their missions and He will judge us on how well we treated them. St. Francis of Assisi held a similar view. When parishioners from a nearby village complained to Francis that their priest was living in sin, he went with them to their village. The residents expected Francis to admonish their wayward shepherd, but instead Francis got on his knees and kissed the priest’s hands. “All I know and all I want to know is that these hands give me Jesus,” said Francis. “These hands have held God.”
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
Excellent..
Excellent decision taken by Our Bishop .
God bless you brother for bringing this to Light.
I pray all must follow strictly The Catholic Theology handed down to us from ages.
Praise be to God
Bishop is visiting temple for what, to preach the gospel. Did he have the permission from Pope to visit temples. Is he giving a good example to the faithful.
It's become communitarian.. only one community controls the charismatic renewal
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
Wonderful narration
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
Lot of evil is crept into Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, Let Bishop be a true leader of Christ Church to bring back the flock from heretical teaching to lead them to Jesus Christ. And God bless you brother for your work
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
1 cor 4:5 so do not go on passing judgment before appointed time , wait until Lord comes *** .
If people die because of food poison will you say don't eat food? Be good do good
What does it mean to be catholic? Can someone enlighten me?
It means to be a True Christian.
@@irenecastelino8827
You are thoroughly mistaken dear brother if you have thought only the Catholics are the true Christian
Please Read The Catechism of The Catholic Church
The word catholic means universal...small c
When capital C is used it means Roman Catholic..
The church was catholic.
Only under Emperor Constantine it was called Roman Catholic. The Orrhodox church were also there in the 1st century..
Buddy u gotta paste exact link else how to believe u
It's in the link. Go to INTERNOS. You will find the letter from Bishop to his beloved people
@irenecastelino8827 can u tell me what does it mean to be a a follower of Christ?
Also what's the evidence that Christianity is a true religion? And Jesus had supernatural prayers..
@@indiradixit2175Read Holy Bible and The Catechism OF the Catholic church for Enlightenment
Excellent action by the bishop. I wish he had gone a little further and banned the charismatic movement from his diocese. It is originally a protestant movement.
No I don't think the Charismatic renewal should be banned ! You can't cut out the crop just because of the weeds
What is the problem with the charismatic movement
As a Mangalorean , I agree with you sir .
Our Bishop should bring back The Traditional Latin Mass in our Diocese and Help The Traditional Catholic Faith to Grow.
So That once again Mangalore Diocese can give many more priests to The Holy Mother Church like in the Past
@@codewaltersProtestant in origin
Catholic Charismatic is not Protestant but a movement of the Catholic church.
You say bishop gave the guidelines for charasmatic preachers. Why are you so concerned about preachers like br.mario Joseph, Vincentian Priests' and others' who work day and night fasting and praying to save people by giving them the Word of God and telling people the importance of meditating, memorizing the Words of God. What spirit do you have? Sit and check your conscience instead of making bla..bla..
What are you trying to achieve by having the last word even after the bishop has said what he has to say. You speak as you know it correct you know it best let us see how long you last.
Don't be a blind follower. Read Holy Bible and The Catechism of the Catholic church.
Know The Faith
Romans 14:4 who are you to judge the servant of Jesus before his own master he stands or falls and he will stand , for the Lord is able to make him stand
Some people has insecurity complex
Please pray for the restoration of Traditional Latin mass
Directors of retreat centres encourage laity to start new centres...deviations away from Catholicism
Vivat Christus Rex
Since Roman Catholic Church goes as one under the Pope, the decision of all the Bishops should be the same and not Bishop of Bangalore only, as far as the Theology or the Doctrine of the Church is concerned. This is what I believe. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Exactly as I wrote..
Oh thank you Since you have put bishops circular for priests in a public forum,
I will point out Theological Errors in that circular... And send it to all the clergy and laity
I too was thinking how to handle it....
When you have gone on public about it, before the bishop himself and clergy and you going on to worship that circular, I will point out the errors....
Sure go ahead ! I dont think the Circular talks any theology in it
@@SongonFirecatholicIndia
But br not on your channel...🌹
Are you not a Self Proclaimed Preacher in MANGALORE Diocese?
Do what Bishop Said. Do God's will.
@@SongonFirecatholicIndiayou are a wolf in sheep clothes
I have written to the Vatican to make you the Next Pope. !!!😂
Well a good initiative but what about correcting the wrong with other non Charsmatic Catholics..lay faithful and priests... some are attending Hindu idol worship and some dancing at another Hindu festival..Some priests singing secular pop songs in Church..
And look at where the Church is going with the Synod..You are talking about preserving the tradition of the Church..A senior Bishop in US was removed from office who was in favour of the tradition Latin mas ( which is more prayerful )
Some things which were never there in the Church may now enter... so where is the question of ' tradition' ?
Mary has a role in the Church..
Do Catholics know the difference between veneration and adoration ? Do you know ?
Do you even know all the 10 commandments ?
Just because one Bishop has a view doesn't mean that other Bishops in other dioceses will have the same.
I know that a Bishop in my diocese would consult a priest for a certain things and then put his Impramatur..
Most preachers who don't agree with Catholic teaching anyway leave and form their own church..
Whats your point Benedict ?
@@SongonFirecatholicIndia My point is stop criticising those preachers...They are at least teaching people to trust God's Word.
People have problems or they'll end up putting flowers and candles before a statue...
It seems your have some personal problem with those preachers...
Quite often lots of rubbish is spoken from the pulpit. Would you speak up then ? Like one priest said Jesus didn't really ascend to heaven literally
Or another one says there is no hell. It looks like you just want viewership. And most of those people don't know much anyway...
what if the teaching is not inline with the Catholic Understanding ?
Moreover you are a wolf in the form of sheep, you criticized Fr Joseph, are you more knowledgeable than Fr Joseph. Do you have more knowledge than Fr Joseph regarding CCC.
Whether led by Lay or Clergy they are all capable of corrupting the chtistian teachings.