Nikola Jokic Has a Legitimate Chance At Becoming the GOAT (here's how)

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  • @ModernTwoThree
    @ModernTwoThree  Před 8 měsíci +55

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    • @twuandixon8675
      @twuandixon8675 Před 8 měsíci

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    • @LuanSilva-ho9oy
      @LuanSilva-ho9oy Před 6 měsíci

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  • @jonp9158
    @jonp9158 Před 8 měsíci +823

    Jokic also holds the record for the quickest triple-double in NBA history in 14 minutes and 33 seconds

    • @032HULK
      @032HULK Před 8 měsíci +77

      on Giannis.

    • @seppuku-
      @seppuku- Před 8 měsíci +125

      @@032HULKSmashing a 63 year old record. Insane thing is he’s not even stat padding at all.

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 8 měsíci +106

      @@seppuku-Jokic should be called “record breaker” because all he’s been doing is shattering old Wilt records from the 60s.
      NOBODY was supposed to be able to touch those records, yet Joker is snatching them up one by one.

    • @twistedladder3506
      @twistedladder3506 Před 8 měsíci +21

      I hope he gets 101 points

    • @90oftheworldisdumb3
      @90oftheworldisdumb3 Před 8 měsíci +36

      Jokić is better than LeBron. He stayed on his original team believed in himself his stats are ridiculous and he won a championship with the team he was drafted by without creating a super team

  • @urosmijailovic5704
    @urosmijailovic5704 Před 8 měsíci +365

    Lets hope Nikola doesn't cut his career short because he got bored or wants more time to ride horses

    • @hristijandimitrovski8664
      @hristijandimitrovski8664 Před 8 měsíci +31

      He will. He said it when Serbian comentators interviewed him wt his home one time. I said, when I start to feel that I will be even 1% worse than right now, that's the time when I will quit playing.

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@hristijandimitrovski8664 no way, because nuggets is paying him $50 million per year for six years. He’s making more money than everyone in the league rn.

    • @hristijandimitrovski8664
      @hristijandimitrovski8664 Před 8 měsíci +30

      @@easylife6348 dude, do you understand that he has Balkan mentality 😂 he doesn't have anything with USA. Is USA people are obsessed with money. Simply when you watch him, you literally see how he is not interest about money and even basketball. His most important thing is family and his favourite hoby are horses. So he doesn't give a damn about money and once when he will get bored, he will retire ammediately.

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@hristijandimitrovski8664 bruh it most likely an image thing, he once said he wanted to go back home at the postgame interview after winning the finals, then at the locker room he was acting like he had a time of his life drunk and then at the parade he said he was kidding about he wanted to go back home quick and he wanted to stay for the parade. He might not care about the fame but I’m 100% sure he doesn’t care to prevent distractions playing the game. If he doesn’t care about basketball he wouldn’t put all that energy into being the best player in the league he would be like Ben Simmons lazy on the court every time but that isn’t the case. Just let you know that nba players lie to the media due to the image they process.

    • @hristijandimitrovski8664
      @hristijandimitrovski8664 Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@easylife6348 dude, I've watched soo many Jokic's videos and interviews and literally everything. I'm from Balkan and I watched many Balkan interviews that he made. First of all, in the locker room he wasn't acting so special, everyone was more hyped and more happy and more crazy than him, he was the calmest superstar ever after winning a championship.

  • @viperstrike0
    @viperstrike0 Před 8 měsíci +362

    Jokic is built perfectly for modern basketball where offense is king, just like how Hakeem was made perfectly for when defense was king.

    • @SDesWriter
      @SDesWriter Před 8 měsíci +15

      Definitely a big difference there. But for a career Jokic is well above Olajuwon due to the scoring and assists ( although if you were starting a team and had to pick one as a rookie, it's not exactly like either one would be a mistake).

    • @dogebuttermilk4221
      @dogebuttermilk4221 Před 8 měsíci +18

      The difference is Hakeem’s defense is basically just as good as Jokic’s offense but Hakeem’s offense is WAYYY better than jokic’s defense

    • @viperstrike0
      @viperstrike0 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@dogebuttermilk4221 I can agree with that tho when judged next to their contemporaries I would say Hakeem was closer to Ewin and David R in terms of defense. Than Jokic is to Enbiid in terms of defense, which is nuts cause Enbiid is putting up monster points.

    • @themingxhe5330
      @themingxhe5330 Před 8 měsíci +27

      @@dogebuttermilk4221joker offense is better than hakeem defense no disrespect

    • @Tayxsupreme
      @Tayxsupreme Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@themingxhe5330not even close

  • @dusk5121
    @dusk5121 Před 8 měsíci +224

    I wanna see him be up there in GOAT discussions by the end of his career.
    The man plays beautiful basketball

    • @youngsosa3110
      @youngsosa3110 Před 8 měsíci +7

      He’s never gone be in the conversation cause he plays like TD and he doesn’t get his respect

    • @eyeguyyy
      @eyeguyyy Před 8 měsíci +7

      He could be the BEST player oat, but I don’t think the greatest. He doesn’t have that dawg in him. No very flashy plays, no trash talking.

    • @electricscooter69
      @electricscooter69 Před 8 měsíci +17

      @@eyeguyyy yeah but thats just the media part of the career, looking at him just as a basketball player i think if he keeps up he will be in the GOAT discussions

    • @nikolamiljkovic4862
      @nikolamiljkovic4862 Před 7 měsíci +9

      So he needs to trash talk to be a goat since when @@eyeguyyy

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams Před 7 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@youngsosa3110he’s much better than td, cmon bro. When was duncan averaging 35-15-10 in the playoffs on 45% from three. Tim is greater and has the accolades but if jokic gets the accolades along with his talent and skillset, he’ll be talked higher than tim. You also not acting like most people put Tim top ten all time, how does he not get his respect? Everyone respects him, he just not a top 5 players of all time lmao.

  • @conanmccurry3392
    @conanmccurry3392 Před 8 měsíci +53

    Jokic is insanely good. The one thing about him and the GOAT conversation, I'm not sure he'll play 10 more years. I really don't think he cares enough about proving anything.

    • @angahbg9089
      @angahbg9089 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Aside from that, i really think as Murray and MPJ improves. Jokic will gladly take the backseat and let them lead. Hence his stats will go down.

    • @MrSheduur
      @MrSheduur Před 7 měsíci +4

      And he will not win more than the championship he already has. Maybe they get another shot at some point but I doubt that the stars align again for the Nuggets. they just had the perfect situation last season and the perfect opponents who were all not at their best, while the Nuggets really had a good group together.
      Jokic will most likely end up as one of the best europeans to play in the nba, but it is highly doubtful if he will stay disciplined enough to stay in shape for another 10 years, especially when he gets older and wear and tear sets in, which is often the case with big men.

    • @IceDunker-2000
      @IceDunker-2000 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@MrSheduur we’ll see

    • @Milan-qu5ut
      @Milan-qu5ut Před měsícem

      @@MrSheduurhe’s already the best European to ever play in NBA

  • @cugelchannel4733
    @cugelchannel4733 Před 8 měsíci +55

    Makes me miss the Quesarito! I don't know why Jokic doesn't do a commercial for them!

    • @HunkyPizza
      @HunkyPizza Před 8 měsíci

      I don't think he will, too many bad memories...

    • @Dr.Megladon
      @Dr.Megladon Před 8 měsíci +5

      I want a Jokic signature shoe. I am conservative in general but I'd buy 5 pairs of them.

  • @emerdog6688
    @emerdog6688 Před 8 měsíci +83

    If he keeps up what he's doing for the next 10 years he may very well be considered the greatest ever.

    • @Gdfsandoz
      @Gdfsandoz Před 8 měsíci +13

      I hope he plays 10 more. Im a denver fan and he has said in tbe past he wont be here in his late 30s.

    • @BatkoBrat
      @BatkoBrat Před 8 měsíci

      Jokic is like Dirk, he's gonna play forever, just wait and see 😊

    • @gabrielnieves9974
      @gabrielnieves9974 Před 8 měsíci +11

      ​@@BatkoBrathe's completely the OPPOSITE of Dirk. Jokic has shown multiple times that he doesn't care too much about basketball. Dirk was IN LOVE with Bball. He has also said in a Serbian interview that he doesn't plan on playing till his late 30s. He's retiring at like 35.

    • @ananijedzankic
      @ananijedzankic Před 8 měsíci +9

      ​@@gabrielnieves9974thats still 7 years tho. GOAT case will be extremely hard in that time. But I just want him to solidify his place as unswappable top 10 or 5 player. He deserves it

    • @Gdfsandoz
      @Gdfsandoz Před 8 měsíci +4

      @gabrielnieves9974 he cares about winning not basketball. I could only really see him staying longer if the nuggets end up with a spurs like dynasty with multiple chips. But yeah I'd say we'd he lucky to see him playing till 36. I think he'll finish his current contract and maybe sign a 2 year deal and probably call it quits.

  • @eddietalley534
    @eddietalley534 Před 8 měsíci +25

    Jokic is the first flawless big man we’ve ever seen. He’s a do it all player as a 7 ft giant this is ridiculous. Jokic and Giannis are fighting for the face of the league crown and it’s amazing to see.

    • @josiahmitchell4424
      @josiahmitchell4424 Před 6 měsíci +2

      *defense is half the sport* and tho this generation is more gifted offensively than ever so it doesnt really show as much, but other than Curry every other top 10 worthy player was a good defender at worst. Now if he keps goin like this he wont become the goat imo, but he will be top 10

    • @c5505
      @c5505 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@josiahmitchell4424jokic is actually an above average defender?

    • @Shawn-ho6de
      @Shawn-ho6de Před 6 měsíci

      Isn't it cool to see both of them excel....seem like great rolmodels

    • @malguas7435
      @malguas7435 Před 6 měsíci

      @@c5505above average ain’t enough to be in goat conversations

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      flawless lol... he sucks on defense.

  • @ChiefOttoSo
    @ChiefOttoSo Před 8 měsíci +62

    Joker is the greatest player ever been watching the nba since 98 never seen something like him

    • @daddyfuse50
      @daddyfuse50 Před 8 měsíci +23

      People realllly don't understand what theyre watching with him. Casuals might never get it, but hes legit rhe best offensive player since Wilt.

    • @seppuku-
      @seppuku- Před 8 měsíci +20

      @@daddyfuse50I agree let me break it down for the casuals.
      He can play down in the post elbows, pivots, spin moves, shakes and even hook shots sometimes.
      He can play all 5 positions on offense with ease, he has the best fast break awareness i’ve ever seen.
      The man can literally do one legged fadeaways as a big man, i’ve only ever seen dirk do that with control & balance.
      And if you dare even start to double team him or loose focus on your man, he’s already weaved the ball over to the open player for an easy unexpected dime.

    • @daddyfuse50
      @daddyfuse50 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@seppuku- There's even so much more to it. Joker has the best touch of any basketball player ever, and I've followed the game for 40 years. Along with this he also has the top end of elite-tier hand-eye coordination - for anyone above say, 6-8 or 9, there's nobody who's even been close.
      Along with these two, his feel for spatial awareness, and where he is, and where the basket is are unbelievable. This allows him to be the only player to ever eclipse 50% on midrange shots (3-23 ft) with a minimum of 1000fga. Jokic did it on over 3000. You could easily argue hes the greatest midrange shooter ever - and while he's great from longer distances, it's really his floater and low post game that he thrives on. The guy shot 70%ts for a season, as the primary scorer on a team, absolutely bonkers.
      There's really even more than that to it, but once you see WHY the advanced stats view him so favorably, and start to understand his game, you can't unsee it. Watching him has almost ruined other players/teams for me because I begin to see back-cuts and basket rolls that Jokic would make, and nobody in the league can hit them or see them like he can. Offensive 🐐

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@daddyfuse50Absolutely right. Jokic makes every other nba player look foolish in comparison.
      His BBIQ is savant-like. Like he was straight up blessed by the gods

    • @i_fuze_hostages6
      @i_fuze_hostages6 Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@daddyfuse50im a relatively casual watcher and jokic does some of the most ridiculous shit I’ve ever seen on a nightly basis

  • @CavemanSynthesizer
    @CavemanSynthesizer Před 8 měsíci +15

    I feel like Tracy McGrady. I just love him.

  • @richmb904
    @richmb904 Před 8 měsíci +40

    Jokić might be the most clutch playoff performer since Michael Jordan.

    • @Trajacker
      @Trajacker Před 8 měsíci +7

      This is insane to say lebron isnt clutch jokic will NEVER be on lebrons level wtf

    • @AlenTudja
      @AlenTudja Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@TrajackerLebron is not top 5 player. He has exposed manny times

    • @nathanwalker6284
      @nathanwalker6284 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@AlenTudjaWho’s above him?

    • @JSauer21
      @JSauer21 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@Trajacker Current Jokic > Prime LeBron

    • @randywhite3947
      @randywhite3947 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@AlenTudjawhat’s your top five?

  • @PlanetOfTheApes999
    @PlanetOfTheApes999 Před 8 měsíci +180

    I've never seen a player make a more dramatic impact than Jokic, especially on the offensive end. His his advanced stats show that he has the biggest offensive and defensive plus/minus, which means he improves his team much more than any other player. Even though many people realize he's the best player in the world, most people still underrate him. As for whether he'll become the GOAT, who can say? He and the other Nuggets starters will need to remain healthy and stay together in order to win more championships, and Murray and Porter Jr. have a history of horrible injuries. But if everything goes according to plan, Jokic will probably be among the top 5 NBA players of all time.

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 8 měsíci +22

      The fact that he was drafted #41 and became a multi MVP winner is simply impossible.
      Basketball is a sport where you can tell who will dominate by the time they’re usually 17-18 years old.
      Drafting a GOAT Center candidate at 41 is something that is not supposed to be possible in the modern era of limitless scouting and developmental leagues.

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 Před 8 měsíci +3

      You never seen much basketball

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 8 měsíci +21

      @@mostmost1 can you name one other player who averages 28 points on 70% shooting and is the best passer in the league? You can’t, because literally nobody else in NBA history has done that

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@steviechampagne he didn't shoot 70% from the field so stop the bullshit. He not the best passer either. We talking career also not a hot streak. Wilt numbers dwarfs anything he could ever do if we talking just stats. Hakeem got a few quadruple doubles himself. Wilt lead the league in assist, rebounds, points and blocks.

    • @BossMinecrafter
      @BossMinecrafter Před 8 měsíci

      murray does not have an extensive injury history bruh you are trippin. he had the acl but nothing else. porter on the other hand def does

  • @vukans595
    @vukans595 Před 8 měsíci +10

    The money given for that Taco Bell commercial is the best money ever spent in TV marketing history!

  • @kennethkinkel4868
    @kennethkinkel4868 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Great video we are watching greatness in Jokić. Jokić is him! That comment coming from arguably one of the best big man ever is all you need to know!!! Props

  • @Skelloter
    @Skelloter Před 8 měsíci +21

    Wilt the Stilt is my favourite player but Jokić is getting UP there! So shocked to see how many records he shares with Wilt, he's proven so much and still has so far to go. GOAT 🐐

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      Jokic didn't really beat Wilts Triple double record... they didn't make blocks an official stat until after Wilt retired. So Wilt got screwed out of dozens of triple doubles. Wilt has the 1 and 2 spots on the most points in a game with a field-goal percentage of 100.0 list.

    • @storywhatifs
      @storywhatifs Před 4 měsíci

      @@MovieGuy666but jokic triple doubles never have blocks

  • @dimelo58
    @dimelo58 Před 8 měsíci +14

    Because he plays so slow and under control he rarely gets injured

  • @tonydeveyra4611
    @tonydeveyra4611 Před 7 měsíci +12

    If he gets 3-5 more seasons like 22-23, and wins the 2-3 more chips to go with them, then hell yeah he's in that goat conversation for sure. And there's a good chance of that, too. His style of play doesn't rely on running super fast or jumping very high, which is partly why he's so durable: he just isn't putting that much stress on his knees or ankles, so he's unlikely to suffer a really bad injury. It's a very sustainable style of play, and one that could get better as he ages.

  • @franciskeys9810
    @franciskeys9810 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Really enjoyed this compilation and commentary. I'm old, which means I enjoyed the privilege of watching Michael Jordan in his prime. I have that same feeling of gratitude when I watch the Joker play. This is greatness.

  • @kenwell3498
    @kenwell3498 Před 8 měsíci +79

    he makes them impossible to defend. nobody even slowed him down. his level of play is just off the charts good. his ability to run the show is off the charts good. I think top ten is a no doubter. he's got a legit shot at being the goat. there's no part of offense he isn't super elite at

    • @shezadm6300
      @shezadm6300 Před 5 měsíci

      Yes he is great player but to be best NBA player ever he has to keep playing elite for like at least a 10 years, stay away from injuries and win many titles... Let's see what happens! By the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel might interest / inspire some people!

  • @sergiodetter1417
    @sergiodetter1417 Před 8 měsíci +4

    this is exactly what ive been sating since 2021, i think he hasnt reached his ceiling yet.. he can be better, he will be better, hes gonna win a lot and then people will really notice him.. his floor is top5 all time

  • @kahnatohru1906
    @kahnatohru1906 Před 8 měsíci +5

    one of the biggest things for me is every other goat contender they are all about basketball they eat sleep and drink basketball but Jokic this is just his 9-5

  • @ktmtxt
    @ktmtxt Před 8 měsíci +6

    My favourite player since I saw him at the bubble, 3 years ago. What a talent ❤

  • @yamchimovits9227
    @yamchimovits9227 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I'm still waiting for basketball reference to add "queserito" to Jokic's nickname list

  • @tebra643
    @tebra643 Před 8 měsíci +18

    NIKOLA JOKIĆ IS:
    HIM
    THE TRUTH
    THE ANSWER
    THE BIG TICKET
    THE BIG FUNDAMENTAL
    ☆☆☆NOT SINCE WILT!!!!!☆☆☆
    SUPERMAN(APPROVED BUY SHAQ😉)
    NEO(HE FIGURED OUT THE MATRIX)
    THE BEST HUMAN BEING ❤️
    THE BIG TIPPER
    THE JOKER
    BIG HONEY
    WCF MVP👊
    THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME
    THE REAL MVP
    FINALS MVP!!!!!!
    NBA CHAMPION!!!!!!
    IN THE G.O.A.T. CONVERSATION 💯
    To be continued....

  • @polskikret1777
    @polskikret1777 Před 8 měsíci +14

    I mean
    I've never heard the phrase "2nd in history after Wilt Chamberlain" as often as now before and if Wilt is considered top 10 (or close to top 10) player doing that in the 60s
    Joker if he keeps that pace might be top 3 in history, but he still need few chips, MVPs and an all-Defensive Teams for it to happen, so i hope he improves defensively in the next seasons, so he could join the conversation in like 7 years

    • @Gdfsandoz
      @Gdfsandoz Před 8 měsíci +4

      He has improved he defense so much the past few years. His defense isnt flashy doesnt go for blocks. But he leading the leauge in deflections and is top 3 in steals. Hes more of a paint protector not a rim protector. Both can be effective if you have the right team behind you. Which we saw this playoff run. Watch closely hes actually a pretty good defender especially come playoff time. He literally runs the defense for the nuggets too always telling where everyone to be and what play they are going to run. His positional awareness is on a different level.

    • @polskikret1777
      @polskikret1777 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Gdfsandoz the problem is, when he ends his career nobody would remember that he was a solid defender, but everybody will remember how many all-Def teams he got and that would diminish h8s greatness, only if he'll be like 10-0 in finals his defence would probably doesn't matter

    • @SDesWriter
      @SDesWriter Před 8 měsíci +2

      He will never be the best defender because he lacks quickness. But since he already has the greatest offense of output in the history of the nba during last year's playoffs, people are going to have to get over worrying about him not being as good a defender as guys like Hakeem or Russell.

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Gdfsandoz his defense is crap... career average of 1.2 steals and 0.7 blocks.

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      @@SDesWriter he played in 20 playoff games last year and he averaged 30pg ... it's not the greatest offensive output in playoff history points wise or rebounds for that matter.

  • @izayahsummers9211
    @izayahsummers9211 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Jokic also had no turnovers in that 11/11 game. He did not make any mistakes 😂

  • @4FrogsStacked
    @4FrogsStacked Před 8 měsíci +16

    Jokic is already my GOAT
    I think he'll retire early which is sad, but if he doesn't, I think everyone will be calling him the GOAT

  • @DominikRoost
    @DominikRoost Před 8 měsíci +4

    I lobe that the two out of this world players in our era are Jokic who isn't athletic at all and Giannis who can't shoot. It's so cool to have players with such an obvious flaw in thier game simply develop and dominate

    • @moritzfinke4518
      @moritzfinke4518 Před 7 měsíci

      But unlike Giannis' shot, Jokic being unathlatic is no flaw in his game.

  • @nevalelapena
    @nevalelapena Před 7 měsíci +1

    T-Mac speech about Jokic is my favourite, as he lets know his first thought is "i want to play with him" ... Just imagine T cutting to the basket

  • @405adam
    @405adam Před 7 měsíci +4

    What makes Lebron so great is his longevity. No player has ever played as good him for this long. Most players in their 20th year are getting garbage cleanup minutes. Lebron is still playing at a very high MVP level in year 20. Appreciate what you’re witnessing. You may never see it again

    • @LuisMVI
      @LuisMVI Před 6 měsíci +3

      Them steroids good fr

  • @darylrichardson8567
    @darylrichardson8567 Před 8 měsíci +2

    JOKER is what’s known as… COUNTRY STRONG 💪🏾 Farm life with make you strong by default, & your factory reset is above average 💯💯💯

  • @Ballg0d230
    @Ballg0d230 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you for making this jokic deserves the recognition

  • @icxcnikasrb
    @icxcnikasrb Před 8 měsíci +9

    You know what is crazy? He can still improve his game both offensively and defensively

    • @josephrafferty6763
      @josephrafferty6763 Před 5 měsíci

      No disrespect, just genuinely curious: how? He's already on the short list of greatest and certainly most efficient offensive players ever and the advanced stats also show him as (surprisingly for some) a legitimately great defender.

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      what defense... Jokic has no defensive skills.

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      @@josephrafferty6763 great defender... your not very bright.

    • @froyocrew
      @froyocrew Před 4 měsíci

      @@MovieGuy666 >your

  • @smoceany9478
    @smoceany9478 Před 8 měsíci +2

    wilt, kareem, jordan and lebron are right now the goats, when i see a list with those not the top 4 i just kinda judge them silently

  • @youngmelo1841
    @youngmelo1841 Před 8 měsíci +4

    His game is easily goat level but his personality will make him been seen like Kareem and Duncan

  • @RyanStarr-bn9dv
    @RyanStarr-bn9dv Před 20 dny

    The dude is literally the perfect basketball player on the offensive end.

  • @beastking1816
    @beastking1816 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Dude mythological ❤

  • @stanislavstef
    @stanislavstef Před 8 měsíci +34

    Well... I'm a big fan of Jokic - but I'm not sure about the GOAT prospects.
    In my mind - he's the MOST COMPLETE BASKETBALL PLAYER in NBA history.
    But, if he'd be to in the GOAT conversation - he'd need at least 2-3 more rings, 1-2 more finals MVPs and few other things.
    It's way to early. And there are still a bunch of legends out there... Kareem, Bill, MJ, Larry, Lebron, Kobe, etc etc...
    He's the most skilled and most complete - I'm sure of that - but to be the GOAT... He'll need more to get in that convo.

    • @HunkyPizza
      @HunkyPizza Před 8 měsíci +16

      Well, if he gets 2 more rings then he will be in the GOAT convo, as Lebron was with only 3. If he does achieve 4 total rings then I would put him above Lebron due to his raw ability to carry his entire team on his back as he did when Murray and MPJ had their injuries. The Nuggets are a complete and utterly dominant team with him, and a borderline failed organisation without him, somewhat similar to the Bulls and Jordan.

    • @leoorthodox8866
      @leoorthodox8866 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Jokic could win easily 2-3 more titles and 2-3 finals MVP’s if Denver team is complete and healthy .

    • @deadprecidents
      @deadprecidents Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@HunkyPizzaLebron carried two trash rosters to the NBA finals, jokic has never done anything close, and the west is way weaker now then it was 6-7 years ago. People glazing over history is insane. By the time Lebron got his 3rd ring he had twice the MVPs and way better counting stats then jokic. This matters. The biggest hindrance for jokic if he doesn’t get more rings/MVPs will be that he started entering his peak/collecting big stats later in his career.

    • @deadprecidents
      @deadprecidents Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@HunkyPizzaalso lmfao Jordan never won a damn thing without pippen, a hall of fame roster and when he retired they still made the ECF without him. Just say you know nothing about basketball. Look at ‘07 Cavs or even 17 Cavs and seriously ask yourself if joker can do better. But especially ‘07. He was getting shredded without MPJ and Murray in the postseason. As soon as Lebron left Cleveland the first time they got kyrie because of how bad the drop off was. That’s why he left in the first place, they were in the postseason off his carry job alone and not getting picks.

    • @dannyhernandez265
      @dannyhernandez265 Před 8 měsíci

      Jokic can easily be top 10 at least.

  • @jimmyjohnjuan
    @jimmyjohnjuan Před 8 měsíci +2

    The clip of kd block jokic shot and jokic immediately get the rebound and makes it is hilarious. You know that had to sting.

  • @a.e.w.384
    @a.e.w.384 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I really hope years from now the conversation is who's greatest Jokic or Jordan. To see James removed from the convo would be glorious.

    • @boonebeasley9622
      @boonebeasley9622 Před 6 měsíci

      Why do you hate LeBron?

    • @a.e.w.384
      @a.e.w.384 Před 6 měsíci

      @@boonebeasley9622
      Because the thought he was the goat before ever setting foot on the court. All the media hype when he was still in high school. "the decision" fiasco and the cherry on top is when he called himself the goat in that lame-ass barbershop discussion.
      Then look at his behavior when he lost the finals every time. He is so selfish.

    • @NamTran-xc2ip
      @NamTran-xc2ip Před 3 měsíci

      @@a.e.w.384The media painted him as the GOAT 😂😂. Hating on Lebron is so sad, one of the greatest and still going.

  • @thoughtsuponatime847
    @thoughtsuponatime847 Před 8 měsíci +18

    The more I read about Bill Russell, the more I think he might just be the goat. 10-0 in game 7's. Dude was just something else.

    • @dannyhernandez265
      @dannyhernandez265 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Yeah some people put Lebron
      As the “goat” I don’t agree. I think MJ is better than Lebron, I think Tim Duncan is better than him, Russell, Magic, etc…

    • @SDesWriter
      @SDesWriter Před 8 měsíci +8

      You're confusing him playing on a great team versus him being a great player. Wilt dominated him in every category in every matchup they had in regular season and playoffs but russell always had the better team and would win despite getting out played.
      Put russell on a mediocre team and he keeps them competitive but he's not leaving the league with 10 rings.

    • @thoughtsuponatime847
      @thoughtsuponatime847 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@SDesWriter I disagree with both your points:
      1) According to Ben Taylor's statistical analysis, Russell contributed more to winning than Wilt did. Specifically, look at how his WOWYR is superior to Wilt's.
      2) Russell did join a mediocre team and made them 11x champions. Boston didn't win a finals before Russell. The year he joined, Boston's win% jumped massively, and their defensive rating skyrocketed.
      2.1) Boston started winning the moment Russell joined and stopped winning the year Russell left.
      2.2) Boston had similar numbers of all stars to other teams during their dynasty.
      2.3) Russell's style of play drastically improves a team regardless of teammate quality. He doesn't need the ball to change the box score.
      3) If Boston was so good, why did 10 of Russell's playoff series go to Game 7? Boston won almost every single one by slim margins. They sounded like incredibly competitive games.

    • @seppuku-
      @seppuku- Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@SDesWriterOh no 1000% Bill is a better Basketball player than Wilt.
      Wilt was just more physically gifted and good at pretty much every single track and field sport.

    • @jordandwiggins1026
      @jordandwiggins1026 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@dannyhernandez265what does this have to do with the comment you’re replying to?

  • @moistpeanut5986
    @moistpeanut5986 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I dunno man…. I think he has already been up there for a few seasons now. Only reason he is not as popular is because he is not flashy.

  • @bambon5568
    @bambon5568 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This story of Nikola Jokic being drafted during a Taco Bell commercial might be the most impactful advertizing of Taco Bell in its history

  • @artalf1234
    @artalf1234 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent in depth video

  • @kyzerbatiste2645
    @kyzerbatiste2645 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jokic is a beast 💪🏿⚡

  • @norpriest521
    @norpriest521 Před 8 měsíci +1

    He's top 30 of all time.
    That's for sure

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 8 měsíci

      he’s already top 25. he is greater than charles barkley

  • @fxckyoutubehandles
    @fxckyoutubehandles Před 8 měsíci +1

    amazing channel dude you have a lot of potential

  • @PejaBog
    @PejaBog Před 7 měsíci

    Destroyed the competition, without standing out or being flashy...NBAs very own One punch man.

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great video ❤

  • @heinrichklassen4629
    @heinrichklassen4629 Před 5 měsíci

    W Take. Very nice Video, bro 💪

  • @adamyoung7999
    @adamyoung7999 Před 8 měsíci

    Great vid man. Subbed.

  • @jerrym1218
    @jerrym1218 Před 8 měsíci +1

    An athlete or warrior should never strive to be the next interpretation/imitation of a past legend, they should strive to become the first one and only warrior of legend with their own chapter in the world’s history book of life
    💪🏼😎👍🏼.

  • @komputerkaput1757
    @komputerkaput1757 Před měsícem

    The Kareem shout out got me🤣

  • @Brandonhscott
    @Brandonhscott Před 6 měsíci +1

    Why do people forget to mention Kobe!!! He could do anything he wanted on the court, he wad ferocious, he made guys better around him. He was literally MJ. If you could start a team and choose LeBron or Kobe both in Prime… I’m taking Kobe 💯

  • @fenixchief7
    @fenixchief7 Před 5 měsíci

    Tracy out here ready to have this mans baby lmfao

  • @minimal1557
    @minimal1557 Před 5 měsíci

    Jokic is on his way to become a legend.
    If he keeps going like that, he will much likely be a clear top 10 to ever play this game.
    What will make him enter the top 5 and then above would be the number of ring he will get and how great will be his future battle to get those rings.

  • @jordanjenkins1671
    @jordanjenkins1671 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I can see all the points in his favor. He's accruing all-time records at an incredible pace, he makes the game look easy, you've already got his peers saying he's unguardable, and he's got the 2 MVPs and 1 FMVP so far. But for him to edge past Jordan he'll have to continue to have no blemishes on his resume, become a consistent elite defender over most of his career, collect a few more MVPs, and do something crazier than 2 3peat championship runs while being the FMVP for all of them. Regular season stat titles could help too but maybe we'd accept his regular season triple double averages instead.
    Something that doesn't work in his favor is that he's playing in the most offense-oriented era ever. One talking point for Jordan is that he's an all-time offensive player despite playing as a guard in a big man era that played a slow-paced physical defensive style of basketball.

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      of course his fellow players are going to hype him up... it makes the competition seem better and makes them feel like they're better because of it.

    • @jordanjenkins1671
      @jordanjenkins1671 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MovieGuy666 Yeah. But they also have a reason to not hype him up -- he's a relatively less athletic Euro player. A lot of US-born players tend to show a bias against Euro players, including against Giannis.

  • @imulippo5245
    @imulippo5245 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There is not enough Jokic passing videos anywhere!

  • @kayatoya
    @kayatoya Před 6 měsíci

    ..that unicorn, just after the Taco Bell spot. Always gets me :)
    Because he is one!

  • @1QuietStormGaming
    @1QuietStormGaming Před 8 měsíci +2

    Joker is definitely one of the best players playing right now and he is an offensive genius but he does not love the game enough to be in this conversation. He is a great teamate and his basketball IQ is above most. He has so much more to do in order to be in GOAT conversations.

    • @user-be7tc2bd6e
      @user-be7tc2bd6e Před 8 měsíci

      AGREED.Needs more playoff-MVPS-and league-MVPS,plus more than one chip.

    • @1QuietStormGaming
      @1QuietStormGaming Před 8 měsíci

      @@SonicCollectionsPS2Noises Every GOAT loves the game Joker just plays. It matters smh

    • @5ammy91
      @5ammy91 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@1QuietStormGamingjokic loves basketball he doesn’t love the nba there is a difference he’s a true basketball lover

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Jokic has his unortodox (unique) style going for him even tho he is an ortodox lol
    So if he wins 1 more mvp and 1 more ring
    Its gonna be hard to keep him off top 10 already
    And i think it can happen this year

  • @TTVBunnyDougie
    @TTVBunnyDougie Před 6 měsíci +2

    Watching that man is a real treat. A true Unicorn. I will never forget when he shot a damn-near 38 footer over Anthony Davis, and the look on A.D.'s face said it all....
    "I can't stop him."

  • @makitahowlstheblues8586
    @makitahowlstheblues8586 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That is absolutely mind-blowing 🤯. Especially considering how he works in the flow of the game and doesn’t STAT PAD (though Perkins claimed he did 🤦🏻)…. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

    • @MovieGuy666
      @MovieGuy666 Před 5 měsíci

      he chases triple doubles like a simp chases strippers in a sttrip club.

  • @FEALMARAGE
    @FEALMARAGE Před 6 měsíci

    That’s what I’m talking about!
    That’s why he’s the mvp!
    That’s why he’s the goat!
    The goat!

  • @iamthegreatcornholio7836
    @iamthegreatcornholio7836 Před 6 měsíci

    if i had a chance to guard him, this conversation would be over.

  • @losk3442
    @losk3442 Před 8 měsíci +1

    i never comment, but this was a great video hopefully more people watch it

  • @pwnser
    @pwnser Před 8 měsíci +1

    he’s 29 years old and already is like top 20-25 all the time

    • @froyocrew
      @froyocrew Před 4 měsíci

      who are the 25 guys ahead? dude is def already approaching top 10/15

  • @gicueN17R0
    @gicueN17R0 Před 6 měsíci

    Jokić? Yes please! 🙏 Subbed!

    • @gicueN17R0
      @gicueN17R0 Před 6 měsíci

      Great video man! Love the way you displayed his brilliance and showed nearly ever important or impressive stat or record. I'm a native of Colorado & a huge Nuggets fan. This team and Jokić specifically is and has been so much fun to watch grow and develop as well as improve every year at something or add something more to his bag of tricks that I'm left fighting with myself on who's the goat to me, MJ who I luckily got to see all of and now Jokić. I dont have LeBron on my top two list but I think he is a told three or top two guy with a huge argument to be made for #1. And it might just be recency bias but I just feel like I enjoy the entirety of Jokić's game and just who he is as a person. He's just brilliant and completely unguardable and I know MJ was too with his tongue 👅 out. But jok is just so humble and kind. He might not be as athletic as MJ or as muscular as DH but he uses his body and what God gave him to work for him and his body type or athleticism doesn't hold him back at all. You wanna call him a defensive liability? Go look at his numbers. He's good at defensive too just looks different. Does it different than others but his rating is just as good. I hope as this take gets colder and more people see he could very well be the next possible greatest ever but time will tell. He's got a ring now so you can't say he can't win or doesn't have one. His stats in the playoffs are just insane. And second probably only to Wilt. So many things he and Wilt are right there together at doing. But yea, one of the best videos on his rise that I've seen. Wtg! Let's go Nuggets!
      #MileHighBasketball ⛏️

  • @josephvernon21
    @josephvernon21 Před 8 měsíci +1

    giannis brought back dominant big men. this is the giannis era so far.

  • @TREVANATOR55
    @TREVANATOR55 Před 6 měsíci

    This is how I know you know ball.

  • @jimmyboy131
    @jimmyboy131 Před 4 měsíci

    See, now when I argue about top 5 all time, for centers it's even tougher to choose. I waffle among Wilt, Kareem, Olajuwon, and now Jokic. Maybe in a few years it'll be more clear. Here's to at least one more Jokic MVP and chip!

  • @---kr3zg
    @---kr3zg Před 8 měsíci +2

    He will end up in the top 10 when its all said and done I'm a jokic fan idk about the GOAT but he will be top 10
    Edit: 15:43 he did it in less minutes than bird

  • @BD-pg2ch
    @BD-pg2ch Před 6 měsíci

    The future GOAT conversation is real when players like Lebron and Durant are really impressed with Jokic’s all around dominance.

  • @czarvellleeynoy175
    @czarvellleeynoy175 Před 5 měsíci

    i just think that in jokic entire career once he's done he'll be like duncan who just vanish out of nowhere then appear out of thin air all of a sudden

  • @vakcinesuzloprobudisesrbij9089

    If he keeps braking records the way he's been doing he's definitely gonna be worthy of the title..I personally don't care if he gets it or not just as i don't care if they deny him another MVP award..If he's worthy he's worthy..I know it, he knows it, everyone in basketball knows it regardless of who gets the title..his stats prove him the best of this era..He's even breaking records of the best of other eras..will he be the best of all time? I really hope so..But i'll be the judge of that once all the facts are in..

  • @kostastube2010
    @kostastube2010 Před 8 měsíci +2

    He can become the GOAT if he wins another 5 rings...

  • @paulgrant8144
    @paulgrant8144 Před 8 měsíci +2

    ive been saying since 2019 that hes the next Jordan.

  • @aaronhall4039
    @aaronhall4039 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I can’t have this convo until he gets 3 chips

  • @drizzledaddygaming994
    @drizzledaddygaming994 Před 7 měsíci

    Jokic is already top 10 all time in my book. Hes just that guy

  • @xabialonso5785
    @xabialonso5785 Před 6 měsíci

    Only thing that could hold Jokic back from reaching his full potential in GOAT talk is longevity. I don’t think he’s gonna play too far into his 30s - he’s made more money than he’ll ever spend and already accomplished so much more than he hoped. And he DEFINITELY doesn’t care about proving or accomplishing anything individual (GOAT status included), and prefers to live a low key life… so when this Nuggets squad starts losing most of its key pieces he probably won’t stick around much longer either and I doubt he’s ever going to a different team.

  • @zmijoguz
    @zmijoguz Před 8 měsíci

    Just enjoy the ride boyz

  • @SuperJJAlexander
    @SuperJJAlexander Před 8 měsíci +1

    I hope Jokic settles the GOAT debate by getting everyone to agree that he is the GOAT.

  • @antoniotrivelloni8191
    @antoniotrivelloni8191 Před 5 měsíci

    He's proven his game. All he needs is the longevity stats and accolades. If he can snag more rings, MVPs, and FMVPs, look out. We're going to be talking about Jokic like our fathers talk about Magic.

  • @bargendler7528
    @bargendler7528 Před 5 měsíci

    The best offense in history

  • @manumalia
    @manumalia Před 8 měsíci +2

    He’s great but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. He’s still a young player with much more to accomplish. It would help to brush up on our NBA history.

  • @octaveg8056
    @octaveg8056 Před 8 měsíci

    you had me at j cole

  • @numunukiid138
    @numunukiid138 Před 5 měsíci

    "laid back tim duncan career" exactly how I can see it goin lmao

  • @iBMcFly
    @iBMcFly Před 6 měsíci +1

    Taco Bell needs to run a Jokicuritto just out of respect.

  • @svarogbg
    @svarogbg Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jokic also had a legitimate chance at 3 X MVP and we all saw that it was denied.

  • @SeverSTL
    @SeverSTL Před 5 měsíci

    Taco Bell sure has gotten their money from that ad.

  • @guilhermekeffer8673
    @guilhermekeffer8673 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Lebron on the thumb LMAO

  • @muckinabaht
    @muckinabaht Před 8 měsíci +7

    I'm a huge jokic fanboi, but let's pump the brakes y'all. He'll be remembered as one of the all-time greats, no question, maybe even top ten like you said. But to be in the conversation with MJ and Lebron, he needs another four titles, minimum. And there's too much parity in the league right now for that to be realistic.
    No disrespect though. You made your point. Great video.

    • @kennethward4985
      @kennethward4985 Před 8 měsíci +1

      What did MJ ever do, beat the weak ass Utah Jazz 2 man game? He had to wait for Bird to retire to get his first title. Lebron had to dump Cleveland and run to a pair of superteams to win anything. Same can be said of Shaq, running to a new city to play on a superteam really tarnishes your titles.

    • @jonshaqqir4575
      @jonshaqqir4575 Před 8 měsíci

      It’s early, Jokic might do the same.

    • @borisfrlic
      @borisfrlic Před 8 měsíci +1

      Lebron doesn’t even deserve to be in that conversion

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Před 8 měsíci

      @@borisfrlic facts. Kareem better than him.

    • @JSauer21
      @JSauer21 Před 8 měsíci

      Regardless we'll be able to say no player in NBA history has ever elevated a team more than Jokic. And in all-around offensive sheeeesh he might be the GOAT

  • @OugiEin
    @OugiEin Před 7 měsíci

    Jokic carries his career like Tim Duncan. Where he doesnt put much attention to himself so even though hes extremely gifted, he'll be regulated to the greatest center of all the time.

  • @zrikizrikic9126
    @zrikizrikic9126 Před 8 měsíci +3

    One of this days someone would call HIM white Wilt 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @danelukic2911
    @danelukic2911 Před 7 měsíci

    GOAT

  • @Championshiporbust
    @Championshiporbust Před 8 měsíci

    To be the greatest of all time you have to be great on both ends of the floor and a great all around player. Jordan, lebron, Kareem, are in GOAT convos as great all around/two way players

  • @56Sheckles
    @56Sheckles Před 8 měsíci

    21:28 that Kyle Korver stat is nutty🔥

  • @nicholaswade6289
    @nicholaswade6289 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Jokic reminds me of Larry Bird

  • @rduse4125
    @rduse4125 Před 6 měsíci

    Sorry, never heard of Jaren Jackson Jr. (I don’t watch as much nba now), but that kid looks like a young Darryl Dawkins.