The solution is to use both. That way once they do find the Apple airtag, they'll be lulled into a false sense of security, and you can track the Tile tracker at your leisure. 😬👌
I have just that on my motorbike, it has a built in tracker, and an AirTag under the battery, I feel if they find the easy one, they may not bother looking for more :)
If a thief steals your car with one of these Tiles in it, does Tile still get it's million dollars from you because now you're stalking the thief? I'm just asking because this is how many of our judges think.
This is not how many judges think. This is legislation that ties the hands of MANY judges. Sure there are judges who have used poor discretion but for the most part what you’re talking about is from above them. Unfortunately (and fortunately) people voted for these things. Some of the people in power are not my favorite but I do enjoy the fact that we get to vote and have that luxury. No matter which side of the aisle you’re on.
It’s actually pretty cool. Will does have more commentary and dialogue sometimes. But Lew has been pretty much the “face” since I started following him years ago on unbox therapy
Another issue is when Apple released there’s in was a huge outcry from countries like Australia and they got way more publicity than Tile gets. That’s partially the reason why they added that notification for people to know when a AirTag is nearby.
Private companies have no authority to charge anyone a fine. They could send you a bill for a million dollars, but you have no obligation to pay it. The anti-stalking fine is pure publicity.
I don’t think stalkers really care about a lawsuit lmao, and I doubt tile will really be able to claim 1 million, let alone 10, for someone braking their user agreement, I don’t know why so many people think this is a good solution at all
But what if you (the owner of the Tile tag) gets your tile tag stolen and someone else uses it for stalking? Then are you (the original owner) liable for the $1M?
that's why it requires 3 factor authentication to make sure its really u and not someone else, you cant track the tile without being sined in to the account it was registered under.
Real easy way to make an Air Tag harder to find. Take the battery out, carefully pop open the air tag, its just a few clips holding the 2 halves together. Once inside you will find the speaker in the middle of the AirTag. Pop it out and reassemble. You now have an AirTag that if you hide the person will never find. I buried mine inside one of the body panels of our car. You can still track it, but when you get the notice that an AirTag is following you and have it play a sound nothing happens. It takes like 2 minutes to make the “upgrade”
They should just make a parking mode that location locks your tag for a set number of hours (that you decide) or until you turn off parking mode So if the tag moves it automatically notifies you and or the police
@@leithmcguire7995 not the parking of the vehicle 🤦🏻♂️. He used the term parking mode for describing locking the position of airtag. So basically what he says, when you “park/lock” your airtag, if it moves while your iPhone is away from it, it will send a notification to your phone. And actually, that is brilliant idea imo.
Brilliant idea, if the parking mode also turns off the speaker and visibility of the tags from others' phones, that would be perfect. Limit car mode to number of cars you own by sending pink slips and getting approved by Apple. Later with AI detect irregular behavior and illegal use.
@@emin74 becomes a hassle though, everytime you get in your car and you have to manually take it off then drive without it ping you which might get annoying depending on how it pings.
⚠️⚠️⚠️YOU GUYS SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE SHOW SO IT BECOMES A FEATURE!!! ⚠️🚗Using AirTags for my vehicles, I want a toggle I can switch on a specific AirTag/vehicle settings so if it moves locations I get notified with a proper notification. If I park a vehicle or know I won’t be driving it regularly, I want to arm it so if someone was to steal it I know it’s moved rather than only finding out if I *happen* to casually look in find my and I notice it’s not where I left it. I’ve tested to use the geofence feature to see if I can get it to do this for any vehicles within my home but if I’m away from or in the geofence and my AirTag is taken from the selected zone, I don’t get any notification that I “forgot” my device. That’s been the only way I can think to make them notify you if someone takes your stuff other than you noticing but that seems like poor design. I want to know the moment my stuff is taken. Bonus setting feature*** make it so you can also select to only receive the notification that something was moved when the AirTag is without my phone being present. With one or both of these features I would find proper value in these AirTags. Until then they’re hardly valuable. Especially being the thief will know they’re being tracked now and may throw my tag in the trash before I find out they have taken my vehicle… 😐 Include the same fine in the apple AirTag conditions and make notifying the thief an option not necessity. Also make the thief’s access to playing sound an option so I can stop tearing apart my damn AirTags to delete the speakers…🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@Noone-xf9cm I get your point but if you were desperate to find out where someone lived, there are other ways. you could literally just follow them. I think these would have been so much more useful if they were effective at locating stolen items
I can see both sides of the coin for this. My mom was a victim of stalking and these tags were found under her vehicle. My train of thought is that perhaps the vehicle could be equipped with something that stops unauthorized devices from transmitting a signal.
I think people don’t realize that AirTags run on the iOS network which is way more reliable and worldwide. A tile will be hard to to locate if someone had to have the tile app installed on there phones to track your device
or they could put a probationary period so lets say you put an airtag on a car and mark it as a vehicle that is going to be tracked for a week it will throw off signals to anyone nearby but once that week is done it will not notifly people of the airtag presence onboard the vehicle( it can also be put up to a month)
Need to include a car sticker saying this vehicle is tracked 24/7 using..... Not only tracked but have it to where if the tag moves from a location. the person who enabled it has to verify that it's them moving the tag and if the verification isn't done the tag alerts the police.
There are so many tracking devices that can’t be detected like AirTags, even the AirTag has been hacked, and the firmware dumped, modified and uploaded back on there. I don’t see the point of the whole warnings in the first place.
It’s bs that we have to tear apart our AirTags to make the AirTag unnoticeable for vehicle theft applications. Speaker should be disabled if they’re going to tell the thief they’re being tracked. It should also be an option to turn notifications on or off by the owner of the tag for a thief getting notified pending whether you think it’s better or worse personally.
Not really. Stalking is worse than stealing bro. Lost of money/material stuff vs your sense of security, or even actual attack from somebody in the most vulnerable situation.
@@MariuszChr These AirTags should prioritize the owner before any other person. I would believe stalking is far far less common than stealing of all sorts especially accumulated. Grand or petty theft. Now the difference is that these AirTags genuinely have a chance to help people find and recover their shit as it will do nothing to someone getting stalked. You spend years of your life saving or paying off a loan from the bank for your vehicle. If you’re into cars you put your heart and soul into it and regardless you prob put a mental attachment to the vehicle and make it yours. Or your backpack full of camera gear, or your gym stuff, you choose. You put an AirTag in it to protect it so you can retrieve all of your possessions that you work your ass off for. The thief takes it in seconds and you can now kiss it goodbye AirTag or not. Cause now they get notified and furthermore are assisted by apple in finding the tag. They throw it out on the street and continue on with your shit. Using an AirTag to stalk is idiotic. It’s literally attached and is trackable back to your ID and cellphone/home address. Sure there’s idiots out there but if you’re getting stalked let it be known that AirTags will not make the scenario any worse. Either someone waits for you and follows you discretely or they plant a tag and follow at a further distance. At least you have a chance of figuring it out if you notice the AirTag. You usually won’t be given that luxury. A stalker with a chosen victim will stalk one way or another. A thief who steals an AirTag can actually be caught and held accountable with way more ease. They can be caught before accumulating thousands of dollars of damage which YOU WILL be responsible for unless they’re caught. They can be caught before they run someone over during their joyride. The thought that AirTags can be anywhere and will help catch them promptly is even on its own a deterrent to all thieves. Chances are if they have something you might want they prob have an AirTag on it. Clearly neither theft or stalking are good things, but AirTags could stop all thieves and will never hold back a stalker. Increase the legal penalties for stalking, ban users that are caught stalking from company products, make the worst penalties you can think of and put them on the front of the box. That’ll deter a stalker more. Also people are cutting the speakers out anyway. I’ve done it 7 times already. Just make it a feature so everyone knows it’s possible rather than only the dedicated few having silent AirTags and hardly anyone knowing that’s possible.
@@MariuszChr I’d also be curious how many violent thefts could be avoided. Imagine not having to fight someone to stop them from taking your stuff cause you know the cops will be on their ass turn for turn. I would argue violent theft victims are greater than stalking victims and AirTags could completely eliminate the need for a person to defend their property. More people are saved by using these how they’re designed and not giving in to the media headlines for stalking.
Okay but imagine you keep getting notifications saying there is an AirTag following you, but you can’t find it… secretly there is an actual stalker who has the tag lol
Sounds great but it's weird that you have to buy a particular model of Tile in order for it to work, yeah. It would be more effective if every tracker they sell required registration to be used. Seems weird that this wasn't the standard for all of these companies' tracking devices to begin with, rather than making it an option..that may end up costing extra. Bottom line, the existing trackers remaining unregisterable doesn't curb the safety risk of someone putting a tracker on something of mine without my knowledge.
If your idea to create a convenient piece to help you track your lost items is later used in a malicious way- 1 the tech wasn’t originally designed for that purpose so not even a firmware update may be able to help but 2 it also isn’t their fault, but they’ve got credit for at least trying to course correct now that they see the evil possibilities people may use it for. I can’t expect my older tech to behave the way my new tech does, although if it IS possible then yes the company should offer some firmware to help those who’ve invested in their older gadgets
@@B-Moye I get the point you're trying to make, but I would think that if you as a company can distinguish one tracker from another well enough for someone to be able to identify their tracker from someone else's, then you can retroactively build a registry system to grandfather in now-required registration for those uniquely identifiable tags. The registry can exist and be run on their servers, with logic infrastructure to activate and deactivate certain trackers depending on how they're interacted with. You know which phone is mine and you know which trackers are mine but you don't know which trackers around me aren't mine?, unless I buy your newest products? But let's pretend for a second that that's not possible as you say, the point still remains that if you introduce this new tech yet consciously continue to manufacture and sell the old, then you aren't really curbing the threat. At best, non-theives would buy the new ones yet intended theives would insist on continuing to buy the old ones.
With AirTags, don't they take awhile for an alert to come up when you're near one? It's meant to let you know if it's been detected travelling with you for a length of time. I had one take days to show me it was near me (one I had reset and assigned to wifes account)
What happens if this anti-tracking feature is used with consent. I remember a few CZcamsrs pairs deployed air tags in a hunting game say around the tube(metro/underground), where one would hunt the other then reverse.
Do criminal’s really worry about a 1 million dollar fine?!? Make it a billion, criminals won’t care and won’t pay! Whether it’s 100 dollars or a billion!
1. Need a lawyer: hypothetically, but if you buy the device, you own it, so you can do anything you want to it. I would suspect that the tile software is where you would agree to potential mil $ fine. What if the stalker connects to cracked version of software, or 3rd party software, that doesn't include the mil $ fine? 2. I do think that the airtag anti stalking feature is poorly implemented. Maybe once the tracker is deployed, if you have constantly around the tracker, (for say a month or more), then once it is found to not be around you, then the tracker doesn't notify the person near it for a set amount of time. And this can be variable. Example: I purchased an airtag and placed it in my car. My phone is showing that I am next to my car for 3 months, and then it gets stolen. Instead of manufacturer notifying thief that there is a tracker within the default time limit, it is the default time limit + 8hrs for each month of me being near the tracker. 3. Apple will notify you if you have an iPhone or you have to have an app with android. Tile can't really use the same strategy since people who don't use tile, would not install their app just because they might get notified. Unless they're an at risk individual or a professional thief.
I've thought about putting these inside my trail cameras. How awesome would it be to show up at the theirs door with the sheriff and say give me back my camera!
from what I understand Tile doesn't use apples extensive network therefore very difficult to track if outside of bluetooth range - someone has to be running the tile app on their phone with in range which is highly unlikely.
You could use the cheapest feature that some homeowners use. Like, a sign that says, "the homeowner is armed and silent alarm installed at this home." Do the same on your car. Put a small sign at the bottom of the driver side window that says, "vehicle has undetectable tracking device installed or undetectable air tag installed." Of course, I'd actually install a tag or tracking device too, if I had a car that was in the top five stolen cars in my region. But that little sticker would discourage a lot of low level thieves the same way it does on homes.
It's a matter of perspective , even the thief(which can also turn out to be your family member who used your stuff without asking/telling you) will be like they stalked me and sue your ass, you know what the company should do they should register this device alongside the item you using it on /in , like while buying this you have submit a proof of ownership of the car or the bill of the bag you are going to attach it to and you are only allowed to you the said device with the device id with the registered Item Id , if found otherwise then criminal charges i suppose , well there can be many different scenarios with many people so the companies should make some rule book and find a way to enforce those rules
Signing a million dollar doesn't mean anything. In Korea there are loads of cases of thefts and scams where the guilty ends up just serving time instead of paying fines simply because they put right refuse to pay fine saying they don't have money.
Hey Lew, since you've got the Unbox Therapy channel sign up for one of those new Tile trackers. Then hire or get a lawyer friend or better yet two to go through the contract and highlight the key takeaways of it.
@@victorchu964 Good idea but the current version of Chat GPT is only aware of events till 2021. Microsoft hasn't released the updated version they wish to release to the public yet.
Why not just build into the seams of the seat or back pack etc a tracker that in order to destroy the tracker youd have to completely ruin the item ...making it worthless to thieves
You can put a air tag in the frame of the car in a place that isn’t reachable without real equipment but i do like that tile did this apple should follow
Doesn't most newer vehicles now have GPS trackers built in from factory. My Vehicle does and I can disable the car with GEOlocation alerts. So, a common thief will not have the know how to disable. And if you put Tile or Air Tags, am sure they will just trash the car and go. When they want your card badly enough they will know how to take it with no issues.
I tried Tile. Half the time the batteries are bad and their customer service was awful. But the biggest thing is that Tiles., from MY experience, just didn't work half as well as the Apple airtags do.
Problem with Tile is that is needs their app to work. I'm in NZ, tried Tile, lost my keys, 2 years on, still haven't found them, cos no one has the Tile app so it can't ping anyones' phone to be found.
I didn’t know that. If that’s still true today (and it probably is) that’s a huge drawback. Better to get an Apple AirTag and simply remove the speaker inside.
@@kevinkasp oh, and on top of having to download the Tile app; it has to be on and allowed to run in the background, else it won't work. Another reason why AirTag is superior; 0-input from every Apple and Android phone user, to track a tag
@@bugjuicer Good info. Thanks. My wife and I are going to retire soon here in Arizona, and we want to explore throughout Mexico. In a nutshell, I wish for my grown children to "stalk" us, so to speak, so they can sound the alarms and call for the "cavalry" to come to our rescue if we suddenly disappear from cell phone contact.
One solution for a car is to buy airpods or use an old iphone. Can still track it and battery will last at least a couple weeks bc theyre still trackable when off
Shhhh don’t let the masses know you can just buy a cheap old shitty phone and put it on the car and track it without any notification going to the owner. It would kill their false sense of security.
@TJ Anderson .... +1 .. Potential thief is alerted, yet cannot locate tag... Brilliant! .. Question; Can these Tag gismos have their alert signals scrambled?
If you have stock in tile, get out now, because this is going to be the end for them. What criminal you know has a million dollars to pay this ridiculous fee. People fake and forge IDs all the time, this attempt to scare criminals using it for the wrong reasons is weak.
you'd be better off using the usual generic gsm gps trackers widely available from sites such as aliexpress. no need to sign a million dollar deal and you can still secure your possessions such as your car etc.
This is a very bad idea, 1 million fine for stalking.... bro people use these things to “take people out” I’m pretty sure they don’t give 2 sh*** about the fine. Talk about enabling
The solution is to use both. That way once they do find the Apple airtag, they'll be lulled into a false sense of security, and you can track the Tile tracker at your leisure. 😬👌
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Exactly! This is chess not checkers 😅
Use a proper 4g tracker with gps.
Or they find one while looking for the other.... They don't have Tile, but they have Apple. They find the tile first and keep looking for the apple.
@@_nom_ but that's cost prohibitive and requires a monthly subscription. Depends on the situation, I suppose.
You gotta get one of each. Let them find the decoy air tag easily so they never suspect the stealth tile.
Love this
I have just that on my motorbike, it has a built in tracker, and an AirTag under the battery, I feel if they find the easy one, they may not bother looking for more :)
If a thief steals your car with one of these Tiles in it, does Tile still get it's million dollars from you because now you're stalking the thief? I'm just asking because this is how many of our judges think.
This is not how many judges think. This is legislation that ties the hands of MANY judges. Sure there are judges who have used poor discretion but for the most part what you’re talking about is from above them. Unfortunately (and fortunately) people voted for these things. Some of the people in power are not my favorite but I do enjoy the fact that we get to vote and have that luxury. No matter which side of the aisle you’re on.
Seems like a fun podcast to listen to. One guy talks the whole time while the other guy just sits there and grunts.
It’s actually pretty cool. Will does have more commentary and dialogue sometimes. But Lew has been pretty much the “face” since I started following him years ago on unbox therapy
Another issue is when Apple released there’s in was a huge outcry from countries like Australia and they got way more publicity than Tile gets. That’s partially the reason why they added that notification for people to know when a AirTag is nearby.
People buy Apple products in Australia?
@@aussiegruber86ofc they do, many farms in Australia grow their own apples
I strongly suspect that the million dollar fine would not be enforceable.
We strongly suspect you're not a judge or lawyer.
Private companies have no authority to charge anyone a fine. They could send you a bill for a million dollars, but you have no obligation to pay it. The anti-stalking fine is pure publicity.
Most stalkers are already breaking the law. I don't think they would worry about breaking a contract too.
Lool 😂 right they not gonna be like oh snap a contract is in place. Let me use apple
Kinda like using a gun to rob a bank...
A 10 million fine for the stalkers would be the best way for Apple to keep them away, and also make slight profits. Winning in both worlds.
@Farb S image stealing someone's Tile and then claim they were stalking you. You would just simply ruin their life😅
I don’t think stalkers really care about a lawsuit lmao, and I doubt tile will really be able to claim 1 million, let alone 10, for someone braking their user agreement, I don’t know why so many people think this is a good solution at all
I think 1 year of jail would be easier
Do you think the "average" stalker has the first million to cover the fine, let alone the other 9? LOL
The $1,000,000 should go to whoever the victim of the stalking is. Period. 100%. For each device found.
But what if you (the owner of the Tile tag) gets your tile tag stolen and someone else uses it for stalking? Then are you (the original owner) liable for the $1M?
How can someone tracks the location of the tile attached to your account? I am not familiar with tile’s system but it is not possible with airtag
that's why it requires 3 factor authentication to make sure its really u and not someone else, you cant track the tile without being sined in to the account it was registered under.
@@nfg_fpv image stealing someone's Tile and then claim they were stalking you. You would just simply ruin their life😅
Real easy way to make an Air Tag harder to find. Take the battery out, carefully pop open the air tag, its just a few clips holding the 2 halves together. Once inside you will find the speaker in the middle of the AirTag. Pop it out and reassemble. You now have an AirTag that if you hide the person will never find. I buried mine inside one of the body panels of our car. You can still track it, but when you get the notice that an AirTag is following you and have it play a sound nothing happens. It takes like 2 minutes to make the “upgrade”
Damn. You figured it out.
Great idea :)
If your going that far you might as well wire it up and have the car power it.
@@LiGhTfOoT_ this ain’t an original idea 💀
@@Clavinohou thanks. Didn't know that. I don't own apple products
They should just make a parking mode that location locks your tag for a set number of hours (that you decide) or until you turn off parking mode
So if the tag moves it automatically notifies you and or the police
Vehicles are stolen, usually in parking mode...
That's a great idea
@@leithmcguire7995 not the parking of the vehicle 🤦🏻♂️. He used the term parking mode for describing locking the position of airtag. So basically what he says, when you “park/lock” your airtag, if it moves while your iPhone is away from it, it will send a notification to your phone. And actually, that is brilliant idea imo.
Brilliant idea, if the parking mode also turns off the speaker and visibility of the tags from others' phones, that would be perfect. Limit car mode to number of cars you own by sending pink slips and getting approved by Apple. Later with AI detect irregular behavior and illegal use.
@@emin74 becomes a hassle though, everytime you get in your car and you have to manually take it off then drive without it ping you which might get annoying depending on how it pings.
I just put an AirTag in my car so I don’t lose it in the parking lot…
just use apple maps
It still sends a signal that can be jammed or tracked.
⚠️⚠️⚠️YOU GUYS SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE SHOW SO IT BECOMES A FEATURE!!!
⚠️🚗Using AirTags for my vehicles, I want a toggle I can switch on a specific AirTag/vehicle settings so if it moves locations I get notified with a proper notification. If I park a vehicle or know I won’t be driving it regularly, I want to arm it so if someone was to steal it I know it’s moved rather than only finding out if I *happen* to casually look in find my and I notice it’s not where I left it.
I’ve tested to use the geofence feature to see if I can get it to do this for any vehicles within my home but if I’m away from or in the geofence and my AirTag is taken from the selected zone, I don’t get any notification that I “forgot” my device.
That’s been the only way I can think to make them notify you if someone takes your stuff other than you noticing but that seems like poor design. I want to know the moment my stuff is taken.
Bonus setting feature*** make it so you can also select to only receive the notification that something was moved when the AirTag is without my phone being present.
With one or both of these features I would find proper value in these AirTags. Until then they’re hardly valuable. Especially being the thief will know they’re being tracked now and may throw my tag in the trash before I find out they have taken my vehicle… 😐
Include the same fine in the apple AirTag conditions and make notifying the thief an option not necessity. Also make the thief’s access to playing sound an option so I can stop tearing apart my damn AirTags to delete the speakers…🤦🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
No stalking... Unless you're a billionaire.
This is TOS bs. Theres no way they can enforce any fine. Its just something to get them in the news and it worked.
I feel like this is how it should have always been. There’s like a million times more thefts than stalkers
But those are not equal weight for importance to prevent. Stalking > Theft
@@Noone-xf9cm I get your point but if you were desperate to find out where someone lived, there are other ways. you could literally just follow them. I think these would have been so much more useful if they were effective at locating stolen items
My car got stolen, and now I’ve got a $1 million fine for stalking the thief
I can see both sides of the coin for this. My mom was a victim of stalking and these tags were found under her vehicle. My train of thought is that perhaps the vehicle could be equipped with something that stops unauthorized devices from transmitting a signal.
can't do that because of law enforcement and dealerships...most new cars have a tracking chip in it for repo purposes.
then these devices would be useless because the criminals wound just use the signal blocking device when stealing the car.
Too many moving parts too many companies
@@vulpixel_labs he said unauthorized 🥰
Except the FCC doesn't look fondly about jamming public frequencies.
i would like to see Tile enforce the fine, dont think it would ultimately stick
I think people don’t realize that AirTags run on the iOS network which is way more reliable and worldwide. A tile will be hard to to locate if someone had to have the tile app installed on there phones to track your device
I think Tile would throw everything and the book into making an example of the first offender. Save millions.
or they could put a probationary period so lets say you put an airtag on a car and mark it as a vehicle that is going to be tracked for a week it will throw off signals to anyone nearby but once that week is done it will not notifly people of the airtag presence onboard the vehicle( it can also be put up to a month)
The tag does not know where it's attached, you can just attach to something else after the period
Need to include a car sticker saying this vehicle is tracked 24/7 using..... Not only tracked but have it to where if the tag moves from a location. the person who enabled it has to verify that it's them moving the tag and if the verification isn't done the tag alerts the police.
LOL... well now a stalker CAN PUT them on any car and then that person will NEVER know that they are being stalked.
Problem with TILE is that someone needs to be running the TILE app in order to detect.
Love it. I can put one in my Harley and put an air tag for the thief to find. Awesome.
There are so many tracking devices that can’t be detected like AirTags, even the AirTag has been hacked, and the firmware dumped, modified and uploaded back on there. I don’t see the point of the whole warnings in the first place.
To find your lost keys its attached to. It’s NOT Designed for anti-theft
It’s bs that we have to tear apart our AirTags to make the AirTag unnoticeable for vehicle theft applications. Speaker should be disabled if they’re going to tell the thief they’re being tracked. It should also be an option to turn notifications on or off by the owner of the tag for a thief getting notified pending whether you think it’s better or worse personally.
Not really. Stalking is worse than stealing bro. Lost of money/material stuff vs your sense of security, or even actual attack from somebody in the most vulnerable situation.
@@MariuszChr Having your stuff taken is not an attack on your sense of securtiy?
@@MariuszChr These AirTags should prioritize the owner before any other person.
I would believe stalking is far far less common than stealing of all sorts especially accumulated. Grand or petty theft. Now the difference is that these AirTags genuinely have a chance to help people find and recover their shit as it will do nothing to someone getting stalked.
You spend years of your life saving or paying off a loan from the bank for your vehicle. If you’re into cars you put your heart and soul into it and regardless you prob put a mental attachment to the vehicle and make it yours. Or your backpack full of camera gear, or your gym stuff, you choose. You put an AirTag in it to protect it so you can retrieve all of your possessions that you work your ass off for. The thief takes it in seconds and you can now kiss it goodbye AirTag or not. Cause now they get notified and furthermore are assisted by apple in finding the tag. They throw it out on the street and continue on with your shit.
Using an AirTag to stalk is idiotic. It’s literally attached and is trackable back to your ID and cellphone/home address. Sure there’s idiots out there but if you’re getting stalked let it be known that AirTags will not make the scenario any worse. Either someone waits for you and follows you discretely or they plant a tag and follow at a further distance. At least you have a chance of figuring it out if you notice the AirTag. You usually won’t be given that luxury.
A stalker with a chosen victim will stalk one way or another. A thief who steals an AirTag can actually be caught and held accountable with way more ease. They can be caught before accumulating thousands of dollars of damage which YOU WILL be responsible for unless they’re caught. They can be caught before they run someone over during their joyride. The thought that AirTags can be anywhere and will help catch them promptly is even on its own a deterrent to all thieves. Chances are if they have something you might want they prob have an AirTag on it. Clearly neither theft or stalking are good things, but AirTags could stop all thieves and will never hold back a stalker.
Increase the legal penalties for stalking, ban users that are caught stalking from company products, make the worst penalties you can think of and put them on the front of the box. That’ll deter a stalker more.
Also people are cutting the speakers out anyway. I’ve done it 7 times already. Just make it a feature so everyone knows it’s possible rather than only the dedicated few having silent AirTags and hardly anyone knowing that’s possible.
@@MariuszChr I’d also be curious how many violent thefts could be avoided. Imagine not having to fight someone to stop them from taking your stuff cause you know the cops will be on their ass turn for turn. I would argue violent theft victims are greater than stalking victims and AirTags could completely eliminate the need for a person to defend their property. More people are saved by using these how they’re designed and not giving in to the media headlines for stalking.
Blame people and the fact apple is so huge it becomes an issue so they have to do this. It's your fault
Okay but imagine you keep getting notifications saying there is an AirTag following you, but you can’t find it… secretly there is an actual stalker who has the tag lol
So there's no way to tell if they're being used for stalking, how do they enforce the million dollar fine?
Every time I see one of these I’m taking it and claiming I’m being tracked … 💰💰💰💰💰
LOL their “fine” is not enforceable.
If any these tag never existed people would still get stalked…
Sounds great but it's weird that you have to buy a particular model of Tile in order for it to work, yeah. It would be more effective if every tracker they sell required registration to be used. Seems weird that this wasn't the standard for all of these companies' tracking devices to begin with, rather than making it an option..that may end up costing extra.
Bottom line, the existing trackers remaining unregisterable doesn't curb the safety risk of someone putting a tracker on something of mine without my knowledge.
If your idea to create a convenient piece to help you track your lost items is later used in a malicious way- 1 the tech wasn’t originally designed for that purpose so not even a firmware update may be able to help but 2 it also isn’t their fault, but they’ve got credit for at least trying to course correct now that they see the evil possibilities people may use it for.
I can’t expect my older tech to behave the way my new tech does, although if it IS possible then yes the company should offer some firmware to help those who’ve invested in their older gadgets
@@B-Moye I get the point you're trying to make, but I would think that if you as a company can distinguish one tracker from another well enough for someone to be able to identify their tracker from someone else's, then you can retroactively build a registry system to grandfather in now-required registration for those uniquely identifiable tags. The registry can exist and be run on their servers, with logic infrastructure to activate and deactivate certain trackers depending on how they're interacted with. You know which phone is mine and you know which trackers are mine but you don't know which trackers around me aren't mine?, unless I buy your newest products?
But let's pretend for a second that that's not possible as you say, the point still remains that if you introduce this new tech yet consciously continue to manufacture and sell the old, then you aren't really curbing the threat. At best, non-theives would buy the new ones yet intended theives would insist on continuing to buy the old ones.
Is it available in India,
Compatible with android or not?
Lol. A person steeling or stalking , I don’t think (generally speaking ) they can even pay a fine of 250 dollars
Do tiles work out of Bluetooth range?
Thank you. This is exactly what I've been searching for. Sounds perfect for tracking my tools secretly.
With AirTags, don't they take awhile for an alert to come up when you're near one? It's meant to let you know if it's been detected travelling with you for a length of time. I had one take days to show me it was near me (one I had reset and assigned to wifes account)
Finally we have a quality product.
Wouldn’t this just make it so a thief could sue the victim for stalking??
What happens if this anti-tracking feature is used with consent.
I remember a few CZcamsrs pairs deployed air tags in a hunting game say around the tube(metro/underground), where one would hunt the other then reverse.
Can you disable location on either one if you were being tracked with it? Since a notification pops up about it
Where can I buy one of these at
Three Letters , government agent ---- where can I order them ??? I only need a few MILLION .
Do criminal’s really worry about a 1 million dollar fine?!? Make it a billion, criminals won’t care and won’t pay! Whether it’s 100 dollars or a billion!
1. Need a lawyer: hypothetically, but if you buy the device, you own it, so you can do anything you want to it. I would suspect that the tile software is where you would agree to potential mil $ fine. What if the stalker connects to cracked version of software, or 3rd party software, that doesn't include the mil $ fine?
2. I do think that the airtag anti stalking feature is poorly implemented. Maybe once the tracker is deployed, if you have constantly around the tracker, (for say a month or more), then once it is found to not be around you, then the tracker doesn't notify the person near it for a set amount of time. And this can be variable. Example: I purchased an airtag and placed it in my car. My phone is showing that I am next to my car for 3 months, and then it gets stolen. Instead of manufacturer notifying thief that there is a tracker within the default time limit, it is the default time limit + 8hrs for each month of me being near the tracker.
3. Apple will notify you if you have an iPhone or you have to have an app with android. Tile can't really use the same strategy since people who don't use tile, would not install their app just because they might get notified. Unless they're an at risk individual or a professional thief.
This also means that thieves can now put a device to track you
Police should put an obvious air tag and then hide a tile tag to catch thieves.
What are those headphones?
One million dollar fine !! 😆🤣😅
Yeah good luck with that and no court in this country would honor that nonsense.
I've thought about putting these inside my trail cameras. How awesome would it be to show up at the theirs door with the sheriff and say give me back my camera!
The Sheriff is Not your friend.
No body / No crime . . .
@@fjb4932
Oh brother
from what I understand Tile doesn't use apples extensive network therefore very difficult to track if outside of bluetooth range - someone has to be running the tile app on their phone with in range which is highly unlikely.
Well this is scary
Come on man…..As if the fine is payable, it’s worth the paper it’s written on. Most stalkers aren’t exactly collectible…..
The price of an AirTag costs more than my car.
You could use the cheapest feature that some homeowners use. Like, a sign that says, "the homeowner is armed and silent alarm installed at this home." Do the same on your car. Put a small sign at the bottom of the driver side window that says, "vehicle has undetectable tracking device installed or undetectable air tag installed." Of course, I'd actually install a tag or tracking device too, if I had a car that was in the top five stolen cars in my region. But that little sticker would discourage a lot of low level thieves the same way it does on homes.
Well that's why you need to remove the SOUNDS on airtag 😂
It's a matter of perspective , even the thief(which can also turn out to be your family member who used your stuff without asking/telling you) will be like they stalked me and sue your ass, you know what the company should do they should register this device alongside the item you using it on /in , like while buying this you have submit a proof of ownership of the car or the bill of the bag you are going to attach it to and you are only allowed to you the said device with the device id with the registered Item Id , if found otherwise then criminal charges i suppose , well there can be many different scenarios with many people so the companies should make some rule book and find a way to enforce those rules
You can just file bankruptcy to get out of it.
Many users of the airtags, are removing the speaker ;)
This way the thief will KNOW its in the car, but cant find it
I used to watch this 10 years back but don’t remember from what topic. Was is cellphone reviews?
Signing a million dollar doesn't mean anything. In Korea there are loads of cases of thefts and scams where the guilty ends up just serving time instead of paying fines simply because they put right refuse to pay fine saying they don't have money.
Hey Lew, since you've got the Unbox Therapy channel sign up for one of those new Tile trackers. Then hire or get a lawyer friend or better yet two to go through the contract and highlight the key takeaways of it.
Or just use chat GPT
@@victorchu964 Good idea but the current version of Chat GPT is only aware of events till 2021. Microsoft hasn't released the updated version they wish to release to the public yet.
Desperation. As if someone breaking the law will pay the bill cause a contract said so lol 😆
Put them behind your dash, no way anyone's just grabbing it and throwing it out that way
Yes the criminal is gonna pay the 1million dollar fine from a private company. The person who broke the law. Is gonna follow what the contract says.
That’s why you should use a proper tracker; one with its own SIM card
Why not just build into the seams of the seat or back pack etc a tracker that in order to destroy the tracker youd have to completely ruin the item ...making it worthless to thieves
I bought an air tag and I had a micro usb attached to it. I can see the last place it was at but it is no longer there.
You can put a air tag in the frame of the car in a place that isn’t reachable without real equipment but i do like that tile did this apple should follow
What’s up with the timer in the top right?
Doesn't most newer vehicles now have GPS trackers built in from factory. My Vehicle does and I can disable the car with GEOlocation alerts. So, a common thief will not have the know how to disable. And if you put Tile or Air Tags, am sure they will just trash the car and go. When they want your card badly enough they will know how to take it with no issues.
i have an air tag and a tile on my bike cuz I'm tired of stuff being stolen
If they are undetectable they are literally designed for stalkers.
Or to catch a cheating spouse
I tried Tile. Half the time the batteries are bad and their customer service was awful. But the biggest thing is that Tiles., from MY experience, just didn't work half as well
as the Apple airtags do.
Problem with Tile is that is needs their app to work. I'm in NZ, tried Tile, lost my keys, 2 years on, still haven't found them, cos no one has the Tile app so it can't ping anyones' phone to be found.
I didn’t know that. If that’s still true today (and it probably is) that’s a huge drawback. Better to get an Apple AirTag and simply remove the speaker inside.
@@kevinkasp oh, and on top of having to download the Tile app; it has to be on and allowed to run in the background, else it won't work. Another reason why AirTag is superior; 0-input from every Apple and Android phone user, to track a tag
@@bugjuicer Good info. Thanks. My wife and I are going to retire soon here in Arizona, and we want to explore throughout Mexico. In a nutshell, I wish for my grown children to "stalk" us, so to speak, so they can sound the alarms and call for the "cavalry" to come to our rescue if we suddenly disappear from cell phone contact.
@@kevinkasp If you have iPhones, then the Find My app is by far the best for stalking.. I use it with my family all the time
Does it matter if you can't get the police to actually show up when you tell the LAPD where your stolen car is?
In my country car theft is heavily punished since a car is considered a personal dwelling like your home.
In Portland Oregon, car thefts happen every day and criminals get away with it
You could do the same thing with a prepaid cell phone
Apple: AirTag 2, now with the most advance, the best technology in the world, have a tile feature you’ll love!
Really hope this doesn’t turn into a money grab for professional victims
One solution for a car is to buy airpods or use an old iphone. Can still track it and battery will last at least a couple weeks bc theyre still trackable when off
Shhhh don’t let the masses know you can just buy a cheap old shitty phone and put it on the car and track it without any notification going to the owner. It would kill their false sense of security.
Mine glued to the inside of the fuel filler cap with epoxy
How difficult would it be for someone to steal a Tile from someone and reassign it to their own device?
It is built into the Tile app, not the hardware. Thus, there would not be a up-charge for the tracker.
They’ll just do it and still sell more than Tile - done
Can’t find an AirTag if it’s inside the rim and tire. 👍🏾👍🏾
@TJ Anderson .... +1 .. Potential thief is alerted, yet cannot locate tag... Brilliant! .. Question; Can these Tag gismos have their alert signals scrambled?
put a detectable tag and an undetectable tag! catch the thief and end their career
It’s like Low Jack remember that? 😆
Funny, they can go to any company and say that, this bad thing happened because of your device. But they don't say that about guns.
So if you steal someone tile, that is it. mortgage paid 😂
If you have stock in tile, get out now, because this is going to be the end for them. What criminal you know has a million dollars to pay this ridiculous fee.
People fake and forge IDs all the time, this attempt to scare criminals using it for the wrong reasons is weak.
you'd be better off using the usual generic gsm gps trackers widely available from sites such as aliexpress. no need to sign a million dollar deal and you can still secure your possessions such as your car etc.
This is a very bad idea, 1 million fine for stalking.... bro people use these things to “take people out” I’m pretty sure they don’t give 2 sh*** about the fine. Talk about enabling
throw one in the intake vent right below the windshield on the outside
No stalker using this is going to be a millionaire. They are not gonna pay the 1 mil, they will just file bankrupcy.