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  • čas přidán 31. 03. 2014
  • Digging coal illegally, often called "rathole mining," proliferated in the late 1990s in Walbrzych, Poland, after the state abruptly decided to shutter coal plants in the region. It continues today.
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Komentáře • 25

  • @wolfy1987
    @wolfy1987 Před 6 lety +3

    Why not just legalize it and put into place environmental regulation? They do this in Pennsylvania and West Virginia illegally because big coal doesn't want competition. That's literally the only reason its illegal.. These small operations are far greener and more sustainable than a giant open pit mine ever will be. Coal only pollutes when its burned, not when its dug up with a shovel

  • @MrQuanticox
    @MrQuanticox Před 10 lety +2

    Real Poland, real people on one video.

  • @siwywch1
    @siwywch1 Před 9 lety +1

    and this is my city and there for the first holes were created 15 years ago

  • @anhcuongym
    @anhcuongym Před 10 lety +1

    Dang

  • @tomwilliams6765
    @tomwilliams6765 Před 5 lety

    They’ll always be a future for the coal mining industry, they need it to make steel 💪

  • @sasserevssa
    @sasserevssa Před 10 lety +4

    In Poland is a big poverty

  • @zenonnowakowski5609
    @zenonnowakowski5609 Před 9 lety

    To be fare unemployment in Poland is worse than most places, even though it is technically a first world country.

  • @surinderchughlucky
    @surinderchughlucky Před 10 lety +4

    God! You are the creator of this world and these people. Give strength to address to their and many other people facing similar problems around the world can end.
    Since, neglecting environment degradation and men longing for basic needs both are evil

  • @colourmegone6323
    @colourmegone6323 Před 10 lety +5

    "We lost all our jobs..." Welcome to the wonderful world of capitalism! You couldn't wait to throw off the bonds of Communism and get to the brave new world just over the horizon and suddenly you find that it's not the paradise you thought you were buying into.

    • @pawelbudzioch
      @pawelbudzioch Před 10 lety +9

      World is not a paradise this is obvious. But your statement proofs that You clearly have no idea what in fact communism is. At least nowadays less people are beaten to death by "unknown delinquents".

    • @colourmegone6323
      @colourmegone6323 Před 10 lety

      Paweł B
      You're right about one thing, Communism sucks! However in capitalist countries people aren't beaten to death by "unknown delinquents", they're beaten to death by *known* delinquents, usually the police, but could be by drug gangs or random violence or some nut using "stand your ground" as a defence to shoot black people, etc.
      The problem I'm talking about happens when those who have been under the Communist cosh rush all dewy eyed and breathless under the capitalist cosh and find, to their dismay, that their situation hasn't really improved at all. For example Mr Putin's capitalist Russia bears a striking resemblance to Mr Gorbachev's USSR in its policies and political aims except that it costs a hell of a lot more to bribe the police and state officials.

    • @marcinolszanski5278
      @marcinolszanski5278 Před 10 lety

      colourmegone It's worth noting that the current economic system in Poland is STATE capitalism, which is as close to communism as it can be. The transition itself was pretty soft too - the former communist bourgeois are still on the top of society and not much has changed in matters such as taxation or social care.
      I don't think that the miners from Walbrzych fell victim to capitalism though. It looked more like a populist act of establishing the "new" political sytem.

    • @colourmegone6323
      @colourmegone6323 Před 10 lety

      Marcin Olszański
      Since Lech Walesa, the leader of Solidarity, was a miner I don't think the decline of the mining industry in Poland has anything to do with a "populist act". When Maggie Thatcher shut down the coal mines in the UK it was a direct political act to crush the National Union of Mineworkers who had been responsible for the fall of a Tory government. The NUM had close ties with Solidarity, so draw your own conclusions in light of the fact that Mrs Thatcher was often referred to as "Reagan's Poodle" and when you examine *his* relations with the unions....

    • @marcinolszanski5278
      @marcinolszanski5278 Před 10 lety

      Walesa wasn't a miner. He was an electrician and spent most of his working days in the Gdansk Shipyard. Believe it or not, back in the day Solidarity were great supporters of capitalism in Poland. In 1990, when they changed their status from a laubourer's union to a political party things started getting funny.
      I'm not much keen on politics or economics and I'm aware that my theory may be a bit far-fetched, but I just describe what I saw.
      Is it common for unionists to pull the plug on the region's main industry, leaving the workers with no alternative (not just the mines - porcelain factories were soon to follow)? For centuries various nations fought over these lands, because of the amount of natural resources. The government established in 1990 negleted this potential and was in a strange hurry to shut down the whole operation. Initial plans were to desist coal harvest within 10-15 years and give full support to the mineworkers who wolud need retraining. The mining plants were gone in mere five years and the people left with nothing.
      So, to me it might as well have been something like: "Oh, look. The communists liked this. Kill it! Let the people see how anti-communist we are".