Aetherial Reduction for Clusters and Crystals in FFXIV | Simple & Easy Gathering Method
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This is a great reminder of this activity. I forget about it a lot and needed the rotation suggestion. Thanks!
As a long time Gatherer, the Auto-Reduction was a -godsend-
RIGHT!? That and the Relic tool gathering items being able to be Reduced was my favorite QoL!
if you don't want to wait around until your gp hits 400 again, you can also just do scour + scour (or scour + meticulous if you get any procs) to hit the first threshhold. the result is not nearly as good, but still gives you something to do while waiting for your gp/cordials and does improve your clusters/crystals per hour
there's a gathering point next to mor dona that has ALL types of clusters avaliable
I believe I know which one you're talking about, but it doesn't provide nearly as many Clusters as Aetherial Reduction does!
I will include it in a rotation, but typically the reduction will give a lot more on Average
@@TenelenTheScrub it provides way more clusters per active gameplay time spent, so way better for doing it while watching a good movie you want to focus on instead, or better yet, doing it on 2nd account while playing on the 1st one
For clusters go to Mor Dhona and afk farm the 12 minute timed node as you get roughly 350-500 clusters per node depending on RNG. For crystals Retainters or aetherial reduction. Don't like Aetherial reduction fro anything but fishing so I just retainer my crystals (or buy them on the market with my voiddrake Gardening profits)
This is definitely a great additional method! I've not heard of it before, so I'll have to check it out!
I've usually done this as a side-gathering project when getting new Aethersands during the patches
Can I do this with LV80 gear? I just got my gatherer to LV90….
Yes! Provided you do the lower level nodes (like the ones I have in the description).
The easiest way to tell: When you go to gather a collectable, if you use Scrutiny and see that you would gain 450 Collectability with a Scour, that is the max the menu will show you, meaning your stats are high enough. If you have anything under 450, then you'd need to up your stats some more.
Am I not correct in saying that rather than (Scrutiny + Scour) x 2, you should be doing (Scrutiny + Meticulous) x 2? The only time (Scrutiny + Scour) is better is if you only get 1 proc, but you're still getting 3 chances to get a random no integrity loss which means you're really really unlikely to end up worse. For full clarity this would change the rotation to: Scrutiny, Meticulous, Scrutiny, Meticulous. Then If = 1000: gather, or if >= 850: Meticulous -> gather, else Scour -> gather. It's a small change but it could end up with you not losing a single integrity at all.
Hmm interesting, yeah I think you're correct in your math, but it's pretty much just a big gamble and I think overall worse.
You're hoping to get 2 Procs for 500 each for the 1000 Collectability instead of just 1 Proc with Scour for 550 out of the two hits.
Your idea for the rotation makes sense, so we'll stick with that notion.
If you manage to hit both both procs to get 500 each, you're getting a 37.5% chance of saving one integrity, and only a 6% chance of saving two. I don't know what the odds are hitting 500 on each one is though, so that's really the part that I'm not sure on.
If you lose either of the Meticulous hits and don't get 500 on one, you'll add in an additional Meticulous hit, which would bump your integrity saving chance to 42% on *one* of them, which would mean 58% of the time you've gathered less than a Scrutinty+Scour rotation.
Hitting three meticulous and losing 0 integrity though, that's a 1.5% chance....
If my math is right here, you're pretty much gambling on a 37.5% chance to save one integrity, *if* we think hitting 400 or 500 is a 50/50.
If you lose one of two 50/50s though, you're losing one integrity on each node 58% of the time.
If you lose two of two 50/50s, you're losing one integrity on each node 62.5% of the time.
Unless hitting a 500 proc over a 400 proc is higher than 50/50, it doesn't seem to work out in the long term.
@@TenelenTheScrub Think your math is correct, but is missing overall picture.
On 2 or 0 ! procs, Meticulous always equals or outperforms. Assuming your intuition is 50%, then overall 29% (0.5 x 0.58) of the time you will do worse than Scour by using Meticulous, 46 % you will do the same, and 25% you will do better(on both 2! and 0! you have 2 more attempts at meticulous over Scour, so [0.25 x 0.375]x2 + the 0.0625 from the 1!). Not to mention, some of that is not only better, but significantly better and would offset 2 failed attempts.
So even at the best of odds for Scour, Meticulous equals or outperforms it 71% of the time. If you changed Intuition to say 70%, then Meticulous meets 75% & outperforms 40% of the time. My own maths may be off here, but in the bigger picture it really starts to show how beneficial it can be. But we are always hinging on RNG, no matter how hard we try.
This also all hinges on Meticulous having a full 25%, although if it doesn't then you're probably having more issues with stats than this could ever solve
I have never farmed crystals or clusters, and have never had to buy them in an effort to max all crafters and do all dailies. I have never had to farm or craft for gil, and have never not been able to buy something I want as well as randomly give millions of gil away to random sprouts. I give a few million gil away every week to random sprouts too. Sometimes I wonder if I am playing the same game as other people :(
I often supply my savage static with full pentamelded gear, so I can burn through resources a lot. Being able to craft all those items, and provide all the materia cost me a lot, but I like to be able to keep doing things like that.
I'm also pushing for 10,000 HQ crafts on multiple crafters for the achievement, which takes a good chunk as well.
Just for fun, I would love to hit Gil cap once. I just like numbers going up :)
So a few million of gil just randomly appears in your inventory without farming it up every week and you give it to some random sprouts? Math is not mathing,
i have never picked up crafting/gathering until now nor had gil issues but i started doing so because raiding is kinda.... expensive
especially now that a new tier is coming out and yadda yadda
i picked up culinarian because these bis food are way too expensive for me in the long run and now im trying to make back the money i spent on leveling my culinarian and then i end up running into the issues of elemental crystals and it just make me go 🤦♀
i think if you are a casual player, it will never be an issue but if you are a raider, it will certainly get expensive in the long run buying everything by yourself to keep up while not getting much in in the first place