1950s Judo training routine was PERFECT

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Komentáře • 69

  • @elliotvernon7971
    @elliotvernon7971 Před 10 měsíci +54

    When I started Judo as a child in the late 1970s and early 1980s our training sessions (from a former RAF instructor) consisted of randori, throwing technique, newaza and applied self defence drills. We were recommended to read Kudo's red and green 'Judo in Action' books for technique study - I still have my copies.

    • @bobafatt2155
      @bobafatt2155 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Sounds like my old aikido class

    • @SoldierAndrew
      @SoldierAndrew Před 9 měsíci +2

      No uchi komi drills to cultivate kuzushi?

  • @bunkaiking
    @bunkaiking Před 10 měsíci +24

    Only 78k have subscribed to this amazing channel. We have 50 million judokas around the world! Spread the word guys, this channel is awesome and well detailed when it comes to the history of judo ❤

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thank you 🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

    • @dangerdavefreestyle
      @dangerdavefreestyle Před 9 měsíci

      that means .71% of a 7 billion population. Pretty good to be able to handle oneself better than 99.29% of the population i'll say

  • @jopalo31675
    @jopalo31675 Před 10 měsíci +6

    There are some Gracie affiliate schools that have Judo as part of the curriculum. In the Ribeiro’s schools( Saulo Ribiero- he was a Judo Black belt before training in Jujitsu and wrote Jujitsu university) they believe Judo and Jujitsu are wings of the same bird.
    In Kama Jujitsu schools, they have kids judo clubs that compete.

  • @bradmartin1967
    @bradmartin1967 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I started training in Kodokan Judo at nine . I'm now sevenity-two. Lots of falling, stemi, before learning throws. We didn't do alot of ground work.Very few joint locks were applied. When doing tandori with our Sensei it was more like a dance and then you would be on your back

  • @dezmo3017
    @dezmo3017 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Im a brown belt in Bjj and i appreciate this your channel very much. I trained under Professor Ricardo Almeida while I was stationed in new jersey and he maintained the practice of teaching self defense. I still teach the techniques and express to my students that BJJ is a martial art first and foremost and we shouldn't forsake it for the sporting aspects.

  • @GWGuitarStudio
    @GWGuitarStudio Před 10 měsíci +7

    Becoming an Olympic sport had the unexpected effect of making Judo less popular. Until 1964, Judo was a cool self-defense system used by James Bond and other movie and TV heroes. When it was marketed as a sport, Judo started shrinking in the US.

    • @SoldierAndrew
      @SoldierAndrew Před 10 měsíci

      Agreed

    • @rv1251
      @rv1251 Před 4 měsíci

      I dont think so , i think the olympics made a famous and popular, but no point of arguing its just my opinion.

  • @niledunn4641
    @niledunn4641 Před 10 měsíci +17

    That's why old school judo was better, it had more emphasis on self offence than sport. Alot of the techniques that were usefull are now banned for silly reasons.

    • @SoldierAndrew
      @SoldierAndrew Před 10 měsíci +4

      It's only banned in competitions. Not in training.

    • @niledunn4641
      @niledunn4641 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@SoldierAndrew it's still limited regardless as if you can't use techniques in competition aswell as the steet the art becomes limited. It's why judoka cross over into bjj, where they can use these techniques and not have any problem in the steet or in competition as they don't have limits put on them

    • @omegadeepblue1407
      @omegadeepblue1407 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@SoldierAndrewthe problem with that is the schools only prepare you for competition, they dont expect you to being capable of defend yourself, just want a medal

  • @tombayley7110
    @tombayley7110 Před 10 měsíci +11

    the gi worn in the first clip is strikingly similar to the Chinese wrestling jacket. The sleaves end above the elbow. Modern gi are much longer. It would be fascinating to see a video on the different gi over time in judo and the techniques that are applied using those gi. For example. grips of the wrists and forearms, techniques beginning from such grips and counters to grips and techniques can be profoundly different when applied to clothing to directly to the individual.

    • @JohnSmith-le5oe
      @JohnSmith-le5oe Před 2 měsíci

      The old gi prevents wrist and ankle injuries, too

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Thank you Chadi for sharing the rich history of Classical Judo! You stated the facts so eloquently. It is for reason that can not add to what stated. Once again thank you for sharing your martial combat wisdom my friend.

  • @Fred-px5xu
    @Fred-px5xu Před 2 měsíci

    Chadi I agree with your assessment regarding emphasis on sports rather than self-defense. However as long as we have individuals like you, we will always have access to information on the art. Once again thank you for sharing your expertise and combat wisdom!

  • @mikegreen5502
    @mikegreen5502 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Martial arts 🥋 such a beautiful array of the arts but most importantly it builds character and teaches to defend the weak become a better person of society and teaches you self defense.

  • @ronlanter6906
    @ronlanter6906 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I took judo in the early to late 1970's. My sensei (Tony Finchen) was Kodokan trained. This video reminds me how we trained. His good friend (Eiko Saito Shepherd) was (and is) world renowned in kata.

  • @jonatho85
    @jonatho85 Před 4 měsíci

    Love this video footage Chadi. Great work again.

  • @MeerkatMotorBoards
    @MeerkatMotorBoards Před 8 měsíci

    I would love to see choreographed self defense routines as part of competitions, so entertaining. 90seconds, go!

  • @dominicrossitto5890
    @dominicrossitto5890 Před 10 měsíci +8

    It certainly seems more in line with Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu, which you have already covered in a prior video.
    Practicing Judo and Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu together are like two sides of the same coin.
    I had read that Seishiro Okazki, founder of Danzan-Ryu, believed in Judo training because the Judokas seemed to have a solid edge in throwing and in competitions,...but lacking in the self-defense aspect.
    Thank you for another great video. 🥋

  • @scipioafricanus4875
    @scipioafricanus4875 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks!

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you so much for your support

  • @nidgeontour257
    @nidgeontour257 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think when Marius Vizer steps down there will be more changes to Judo and we may see some old techniques reintroduced.

  • @SoldierAndrew
    @SoldierAndrew Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thank you Chadi. Good documentary.

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much for your support 🙇🏻‍♂️

    • @elizabethpower1702
      @elizabethpower1702 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Chadi Also could you compare throws and submissions from Kaze no Ryu/Ogawa-ryu to those from Judo, Daito-ryu and Aikido. It's a koryu Jujutsu and Aikijujutsu style that has a you tube channel. Another possible comparison is how Danzan-ryu differers from Judo?
      www.youtube.com/@KazenoRyu

    • @elizabethpower1702
      @elizabethpower1702 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Chadi You could also compare throws and submissions from Goshin Jujitsu. czcams.com/video/k03t-Er9BnU/video.html
      czcams.com/video/AGqvlp9P6Jk/video.html

  • @thomasturner4253
    @thomasturner4253 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for the History lesson

  • @zeokimus
    @zeokimus Před 7 dny

    What a great video and images. In my humble opinion, too much emphasis has been placed on the sporting aspect and a multitude of art attributes have been left aside. I'm reading a very good book by Minuro, from 1950, "The Essence of Judo", a great work. Thanks for the video.

  • @NorthernMtnMan
    @NorthernMtnMan Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very much agree. There is a point for competition and randori but unless you are a high-level competitor Kata and self defence should be more than what I see most Dojos.

  • @DrM0lek
    @DrM0lek Před 10 měsíci +1

    It is fun to see very similar moves to what you find in aikido. Not exactly the same, but very close.
    So if you train judo and aikido, you would probably be able to make moves similar to those guys in the early days.

  • @user-rx1ij8pi4j
    @user-rx1ij8pi4j Před 2 měsíci

    My Judo Club used to bring home national championships, AV JUDO, they were very good
    I didn't compete but I had very good ground game and long wind so they liked to put their star competitors against me to teach them how to compete against conditioning and skill
    Even though I had neither, just natural talent
    They drilled and sparred equal portions, that would be two thirds of the class, the other third was conditioning and instruction

  • @rippersubmissionwrestling2704
    @rippersubmissionwrestling2704 Před 10 měsíci +1

    It was! I have the book Judo on the ground (Oda Method) by EJ Harrison! Judo went from the crème de la creme of Grappling arts to the state of it today!
    All thanks to the IJF and IOC who destroyed the art of Judo! Turning it from an art to a sport!

    • @PauloJonatasSilveira
      @PauloJonatasSilveira Před 10 měsíci

      Everything that works is SPORT...Judo, BJJ, Wrestler, they only work because they are sports...
      If Judas hadn't become a sport, it would have become fake martial art, like most of the arts of his generation.
      Now when it becomes a high level sport, it is difficult to maintain ALL DIMENSIONS, That's why BJJ lost strikes and takedowns, and Judo lost newaza...
      Judi also lost the double and single leg, so as not to become a wrestler, Judo is Jujutsu, just like BJJ, they are Jujutsu logic, which is the opposite logic to that of the wrestler...
      And Judo was losing this logic and becoming a Western wrestler, losing the levers, That's why some dimensions were banned...either it is preserved or destroyed... everything has a gain and a loss...

    • @rippersubmissionwrestling2704
      @rippersubmissionwrestling2704 Před 9 měsíci

      @@PauloJonatasSilveira Judo is a martial art that's what Kano's vision was! But they turned it into a sport and then watered it down some more!

    • @PauloJonatasSilveira
      @PauloJonatasSilveira Před 9 měsíci

      @@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 list the martial arts that is not a sport that is superior to the sports versions of the same fight dimensions (dimensions: striker, grappler, wrestler)

  • @jedijudoka
    @jedijudoka Před 10 měsíci

    Regarding the 1912 demonstration video, I’ve seen Japanese jiujitsu practitioners call that randori. Uke attacks tori with a random attack and tori defends with whatever comes to mind. I agree with you that it’s more kata, though, as uke isn’t resisting.

  • @lastmanstanding5423
    @lastmanstanding5423 Před 10 měsíci

    That judo / ju jitsu guy at 9:52 got his ass kicked so hard by the capoera guy... lol

  • @ClintInDaHouse
    @ClintInDaHouse Před 3 měsíci

    any non lethal competition is sport. in archery and shooting we don't aim at one another. still deadly though

  • @davidquinningan8946
    @davidquinningan8946 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Even Eskrima of the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) are heavily influenced by judo.

  • @washingtongeraldodeoliveir8338
    @washingtongeraldodeoliveir8338 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Quando eu comecei a lutar Judô, 1978, podíamos dar até tesoura nas pernas; hoje, nem pegar nas pernas com as mãos se pode mais.
    Um dos meu golpes mais fortes era o Morote gari; hoje, não posso mais dá-lo; não gosto do Judô atual; há muitas regras e ficou feio e pobre.

    • @sergiosapori
      @sergiosapori Před 10 měsíci +2

      Novos praticantes nem sabem o que é atemi waza.

    • @jrRyu
      @jrRyu Před 10 měsíci

      Lo dices como algo muy general. No tiene sentido. Las reglas de las competiciones son así para resguardar a los competidores, pero nadie prohibe en los tatamis de cada dojo. Ademas de que con tanta informacion al alcanse de cualquiera, el q desconoce es porque quiere

    • @jrRyu
      @jrRyu Před 10 měsíci

      @@sergiosapori los atemi waza están incluidos en los programas de estudio y examenes de grado en cualquier federación. Yosoy de argentina y están. Hay que quejarse menos y entrenar mas

  • @youtubemsu
    @youtubemsu Před 8 měsíci

    Shits dope shutti

  • @eyescat1082
    @eyescat1082 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Coincido : las artes marciales cada vez parecen más "deporte" que "ARTES MARCIALES" en la medida que se vuelven más "deportivas" y eso a la larga hará que se vayan perdiendo y olvidando un gran arsenal técnico de las mismas, es un mal negocio honestamente transformar en deporte a las artes marciales, eso terminara perjudicando más a los practicantes y a la larga de lo que son ARTES MARCIALES solo quedarán lejanos recuerdos.

  • @gailvalleymartialarts
    @gailvalleymartialarts Před 10 měsíci

    Where's that fight footage at the end from?

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 10 měsíci +3

      It’s available on CZcams, 1980s vale tudo

  • @youtubemsu
    @youtubemsu Před 8 měsíci

    Ur hella funny Chuddy

  • @hooverbaglegs
    @hooverbaglegs Před 10 měsíci

    Judo dance! Very similar to karate kata😅

  • @user-zb3xk9nr9b
    @user-zb3xk9nr9b Před 10 měsíci

    後半部分はエリオとヒクソン!?

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 10 měsíci +1

      はい

  • @mariomicelli4818
    @mariomicelli4818 Před 10 měsíci

    Di tecnica e ben poca

  • @Pifagorass
    @Pifagorass Před 10 měsíci

    The only more rich combat sport/discipline is Japanese Jujitsu ❤

  • @olimaye
    @olimaye Před 10 měsíci

    Gracie jiu jitsu was Judo with more newaza

  • @pkicng210
    @pkicng210 Před 10 měsíci

    Do you think that BJJ and even MMA is taking over the popularity of Juso in competition except are the Oympics.

  • @rollsgracie268
    @rollsgracie268 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love self-defense as well Carlson Gracie had people training hard,
    Gotcha ceiling fans with friends he let everybody in the mix. I started training on competitive way.
    The aggressive open guard rolls
    Carlson hi far have the greatest record in the family
    Do you want the way from helio?

  • @MizanQistina
    @MizanQistina Před 10 měsíci +1

    In relation to previous video and my comment about martial art was originally not for civilians, think about it, even in ancient time martial art tournaments are not open for civilians, doesn't matter in the east or the west, it is only for warrior class, knight/samurai, nobles and the elites. Of course there are some exception where commoners could fight in the tournament, but it is rare. Since now it is open to civilians, there we got issues such as safety issues and so on. In ancient time, tournaments could lead to death, usually it is for honor, rank selection, ect. Tournaments in ancient time was not a sport, it is a live or die competition. Today it is a sport and business. Death and injuries in the ring is not a good business, so rules become stricter and training changed to prevent it. If this continue, martial art will not evolve, but devolved.

    • @Chadi
      @Chadi  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I agrée in many ways, Edo period started after the civil war and they started to compete and records of the late 1890s show the concern for safety, it doesn’t have to be a fight to the death however the old model where the priorities were split in a more fair way was better.

    • @MizanQistina
      @MizanQistina Před 10 měsíci

      @@Chadi In ancient time, friendly competition between warriors of rival kingdoms could lead to death, for honor. In my country, the most famous warrior Hang Tuah (Melaka) defeat Taming Sari (Jawa) by killing him in a duel in front of the kings of both kingdom, during a marriage ceremony between Melaka King and Jawa Princess. This happen between 1456-77 AD. The result is Jawa king give Hang Tuah the Taming Sari weapon (a keris) which is become iconic and legend up to today.
      So, even a friendly competition to unite both kingdoms, it is a fight to death 😅
      Sadly, no movies made since 1956 about this, because it is a sensitive issue between Malaysia and Indonesia, but this is a clip of the (imagined) event --> czcams.com/video/Mpbcj18r_kA/video.html

    • @SoldierAndrew
      @SoldierAndrew Před 10 měsíci +1

      Are you part of the warrior class?
      Because you train Silat many years and said before that you use it in fights and to stop criminals.
      If you're not in military warrior class but practice Silat then it's hard to take you serious.

    • @MizanQistina
      @MizanQistina Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@SoldierAndrew I am not seeking your approval and I don't live to impress you or anything. Either you read and understand what I am saying or just move on.