Jim Cornette on The Ultimate Warrior's 1996 Return
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- From Episode 138 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Best example of someone who took from the business with both hands and gave nothing back. No one wanted to work with him. Never put anyone over.
Sometimes you are better off being selfish man. Being a good guy sometimes brings you headaches and people are not grateful. I heard hulk Hogan ran everything but took care of the boys. I heard for the 1993 trial that every wrestler turned on him and blamed him for juice steroids.
Macho man liked working with him
@@tharealest8190
Savage potatoed him with the sceptre at RR 91 and legit knocked him out as a receipt.
@@jonharrison9222 not a receipt at all that’s a BS story that you got from wwe , It’s WIDELY known that they were friends
@@tharealest8190 undertaker enjoyed working with him too
When Jim said, “Hated it,” I pictured him sitting next to Damon Wayons on In Living Color
Travis Hekel should draw that
Same here reminded me of the men on film skit lol
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Greatest response ever i lmaooooo fuck i pissed in myself 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that HHH getting buried is an issue is HIGHLY ironic. I loved it.
Right lol
Lol. Yep
Right? Like Trips didn't bury guys like Steiner, RVD and Booker T.
Fuck HHH. I loved him getting squashed.
lmaooo Triple H as a fuckin’ JOBBER
The Ultimate Warrior character is what happens when Gary Busey and Randy Quaid had a baby and was fed a diet of Monster Energy Drinks and a metric fuck ton of cocaine.
Two people I would pay to see cut promos on each other..
Scott Steiner vs Ultimate Warrior.... endless possibilities of gibbering greatness.
I want Stiener on commentary for a Kevin Owens Dave Mastiff match
I’d pay to watch that!
Gibbering Gibberish.
Yea but Steiner can wrestle his ass off. Young Steiner would run circles around other guys. He was an all american NCAA wrestling champion at university of Michigan.
Throw the masters of gibberish, Ahmed Johnson and Sid, in there somewhere.
I can tell you why he was so over in the 80's. Kids who didn't know any better made up a huge part of the WWF audience. Hell I was one of them.
I just watched a promo he did with Beefcake and I can't believe I watched that shit.
One fucking guy is supposed to be a barber and he's carrying around grass clippers. He probably used them to do landscaping for Hogan. And while he's blathering on the other asshole is standing in front of him smelling his hand.
So with that being said, you could argue that Hogan was over in the 80s for the same reason
You could, but Hogan was over as a heel in the 90’s. Hogan played the role of that “kids hero”. You could say the same about Sting going on about “all the little Stingers”. But there was substance with them. The Warrior was just a muscle bound dude with colorful face paint and he had a energetic entrance. But that’s all that was there.
Yep. I never knew he was a bad “worker” until this stuff
@@npage. Honestly I don't care who is a "good worker" or a bad one. I think if that mattered as much as everyone acts like it does pro wrestling wouldn't be in the toilet because it's fair to say these kids doing it now are far more athletically gifted than anyone I grew up watching. But none of them have an ounce of personality or charisma. They might as well call themselves "Guy in the blue trunks" because that's all they are. I think outside the Warrior's look and ring entrance he didn't have much going for him, in the way of personality, but that's still a ton more than Brock fucking Lesnar has IMO.
To be fair, watching a muscle bound freak running around like a maniac beating the crap out of people is kinda fun
And REALISTIC. Maybe too realistic, sometimes.
Keep in mind that Warrior came about in the 1980s when a lot of WWF wrestling was geared towards kids. And kids would love ulitimate warrior because he was a real life comic book character coming to life. If you're an adult and a traditional wrestling fan, you'd think Warrior was stupid, but for kids, he was awesome.
Like two dogs fucking
@@durden2480 I assume you watched the Jim Cornette documentary on his thoughts of Vince Russo and the attitude era :) Where he simply ripped Vince Russo's ideas of shock value as "people seeing two dogs fuck each other"
Yeah it was the spectacle
"He never wanted to get any better. He never wanted to learn. He never wanted to take care of guys. He never wanted to have a good match. And he accomplished all of those things"
Lol, perfect
Apart from the fact warrior had great matches with rude savage and hogan
Which had nothing to do with his own efforts
@@masterfulsky Because those guys had to guide him, we all know that warrior never truly care about the business, he was just a mark for himself. And believe in his own hype.
A ton of big stars in wrasslin were marks for themselves. Or at least prospective of their character. Characters are one the most important things in the business. It matters. Warrior was one of the biggest stars of wrestling in the late 80s and 90s, and that isn't an opinion. It's a fact.
@@mjj6682 yeah no one cared about those matches because warrior was in them he just stood there doing nothing, gimme a break
At one time I found a second hand bodybuilding book titled something like “super heavy duty bodybuilding” with Mr Hellwig (Warrior) on the cover in the midst of a set. The look of disgust on the face of the elderly cashier upon looking at the cover was priceless 😂.
thats warrior on the cover
In the build-up to WM12 most of the kids in my 7th grade class were more excited for the Warrior returning and the backlot brawl than the iron man match. He was still pretty popular in 1996.
I agree with you. Warrior was one of the most over wrestlers ever.
God, that was a fun PPV.
With kids. There was the rub. Shortly after this, Nash and Hall went to WCW and formed the nWo with Hogan. The target audience had changed and going after kids got WWFs ass kicked in the ratings until they started pushing Austin, DX and Attitude in general.
His return might have gotten a pop but the rest of his 2nd run was borderline disastrous. I wont bring up his WCW run which was just awful.
His match and the main event were the only two I cared about and that's what I had stopped watching wrestling 3 years prior, so hearing that the warrior was coming back plus Shawn Michaels was a baby face ( that was mind-blowing to me} and taking on Bret for an hour That's what made WrestleMania 12 interesting to watch at the time. Piper's backlight brawl with Gold dust was icing on the cake because I didn't even know that was happening until I watched the show.
I was 8 in 1996 and got extremely excited the Warrior was coming back. That being said even as a kid I was disappointed and shocked that the match was just 90 seconds or so. I now look back at a guy in his 30s at his matches and be like “why’d I ever like this guy in the first place as he’s the drizzling shits”
Guess it was just the look and his entrance music.
It's destrucity pal!!!
NYYYYYAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH
The return. The best part was his entrance music.
Didn’t even take his jacket off and disposed of him in 10 seconds lol
Guys like Warrior could draw a crowd just by showing up then. Today they practically beg the fans to show up. Muscle bound freaks draw a crowd. Pretty boys keep the 12 year olds and teenage girls coming back, but not really anyone else, except their parents.
ohtheres always somebody that says this about something. my god.
No, the best part was Jim squashing Paul in 30 seconds.
Warriors matches were all short cuz he wastes all his energy doing his entrance.
One thing warrior had that Noone will ever take away from him was intensity. You believed the man was absolute batshit crazy.
When Warrior came back in 1996 it wasn't the same. His matches were not the same, the era was different.
He wouldn't even have cracked into the Attitude Era well. I mean, shit, he was out of place when he went to WCW and NWO was going. Very out of place. I was glad Hogan buried Warrior in WCW.
@@frozyre7854 its kinda funny you said warrior was out of place because hogan and sting became out of place had to change their gimmicks and extended their career. Warrior should of changed. Maybe something like sting they could've worked together to take on nwo.
Frozyre his debut was the highest rating for WCW. And it was most solely for him. And his last notable WCW appearance was WCW's last rating win. The OWN was very over that year. And he would have worked. A comic book character can be taken to the next level. They took the Boss Man's cop character was able to be taken to the next level.
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 agreed
His matches were exactly the same. The fans just noticed it this time
As a kid I thought UW was the shit when I look at his matches as an adult I see what Jim talkin about
When I think of warrior I think of what Iron man said, “everything special about you came out of a bottle” that pretty much sums up warrior!
Tammy How does his ring attire promos and charisma come from a bottle???
9 months late to this comment but I had a good laugh at the thought of Captain America just sprinting from New Jersey all the way into NYC to join the rest of the Avengers, standing there violently shaking, obliterating some aliens with his shield, & then sprinting back out of the battle.
@@christiansoldier77 promos and charisma??!?? Lmao we're still talking about Warrior, right?
@@christiansoldier77His promos were just stupid bs. Coke induced incoherent rambling
@@elijahloveell8809 His promos were great and he probably was one of the few wrestlers who didn't take coke back then
I'm probably the only one but I would love to have Cornette back in WWE or working with NXT. With all his knowledge, talent, and straight passion for the buisness he has he could really help build towards the future, be great on creative, and maybe teach these people on the roster now a little something about emotions in the storytelling and passion for what it is they are doing
@@andrewcramer6990 I was talking about Cornette
Say what you want, and you’re not wrong, but as a fan watching at the time? Epic return.
Maybe if you were 5 years old
It's crazy how he talks about warrior right?you can say the man was not an in ring genius but he wasn't supposed to be!his job was to destroy everyone!calling him a POS really??cmon
Nana Owusu achaw
What else would you call anyone who said the horrible things he did?
Nana Owusu achaw he was a piece of shit. I for one am glad he’s dead.
the return actually was awesome but everything after that was snoozeville.
If warrior hated his dad and hadn't spoken in years. Could of made his passing worse and he could now never reconnect
Vince doesn't register emotions
Exactly
Jim was a garbage can. Who didn't care for anyone but himself.
Jim is the only one to tell it like it is when it comes to Warrior. Everyonr else forgets all the shit they said on the Self Destruction video.
That DVD was bullshit that was Vince doing he and warrior was having issues then Curt Henning and other wrestlers died of drug overdose you don't see those self destruct DVDs
Regardless of any personal feelings or his in-ring skills, Ultimate Warrior was OVER. And he was over in ways no current so-called "superstar" could ever reach.
True.
Nope, he was over in his peak. But that was a very brief one. he didn't draw much during his brief WCW run, did he? Also, he put a stinker of a match with Hogan - something which I hold Hogan equally at fault as well. Warrior was OVER, but he peaked early and destroyed whatever credibility he had by ranting out constantly.
@@aswinastro You are dragging elements into it that i never discussed. I said he was OVER. Didn''t say anything about match quality and whatever you mean by "credibility". And to be more precise, i am talking about his WWF career, not the complete trainwreck that late WCW was to begin with.
@Alex Nobody is dumping on Sting, so how well Sting did is not the issue here.
To be fair Warrior could have good matches with the right opponent. Even a great one with Hogan who didn’t do much in the ring either.
Ultimate warrior is very crazy and his entrance music is perfect
Was crazy he is dead
i know that
Crush The War machine good riddance.
He hit the nail on the head when he said 80s cartoon superhero character I was thinking the exact same thing his gimmick was outdated by 96
The Warrior seemed way out of place when he returned. His gimmick didn't age well.
It was because his gimmick was all about his physical presence.. In his heyday he was a real life He Man that put the smaller bad guys in their place... But just by watching him how small he became and how HHH basically dwarfed him, he lost that aura of mighty hero he was known for... The 10 year olds that viewed him as a hero in the 80s were now in high school and college and anti heroes like Stone Cold were their thing now
That was all on Vince. He came to him, not the other way around. Warrior had moved on. That's what all his haters never get. If you know a guy hates the business, why bring that drama back?
Daniel Moore
All on Warrior. He was an 80s star pulling the same tricks the in late 90s. He couldn’t evolve or change and so he became a walking self parody.
It's not the gimmick that didn't age well, it was you who (just) aged.
Warrior was my favorite and literally the one star who got me even watching pro wrestling in the first place. Still do love him and wrote and recorded a music tribute album to him, but with that said, i dont think any Warrior fanatic will argue that when he came back in the late 90s it was not right and it was never going to be even close to the same as his first and second run. Same with the WCW run. i would honestly still turn the channel after waiting all week for him to come on.
What I learned from that match was....The Pedigree is useless 😂
Exit stage left! Exit stage right! There is no place to run! All of the fuses in the exit signs have been BURNT OUT! There's only one straight and narrow way to summer slam and it deals with pain and destruction and recapturing the intercontinental belt! You Ravishing Rick Rude will feel that pain, feel that power at summer slam! As the warriors claw and stretch all over the back of the Ultimate Warrior and tell me what to do. what is rightfully right and wrongfully wrong. Take the intercontinental belt back! Take it back to parts unknown! Load the spaceship with the rocket fuel and with the warriors because after summer slam, THE BELT WILL BE MINNNNNNEEEEE!
Classic!
Someone needs to send Jim copies of Warrior’s comic
Jim should read it and review it in real time lol
Warrior raping Santa was the "best" part
@Michael G what,s the storyline of comic ?....thanks
Wayne Doyle there’s no real storyline well there supposed to be but it’s an incoherent mess, it’s hilarious but a mess
@@JoseMiranda-gj4pq thanks for info / grateful
When the Ultimate Warrior came back in 1996 during his last run things had changed by then. People had moved onto someone else and also the Attitude Era was slowly taking shape. Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were having their personal vendetta in & out of the ring, Stone Cold Steve Austin is starting to emerge as the top babyface, Mankind and Taker were having their legendary feud. The times had changed, that's something you can't deny.
He was, I'm sorry to say, out of place there. His run was lackluster, he just flopped. Even when he won the WWE championship at Wrestlelamia he didn't draw as much, because people were still high on Hulk Hogan.
NWO was the cause for the attitude era which happened in July.
According to Bret and Shawn they were still friends at this time also
Warrior still had a fan base. Tbh as popular as warrior was when he came back in 96, he could have became ic champion. Took the belt away from goldust and lost it to ahmed Johnson.
You are just partially right, Warrior never was completely out of place, his aggressive look and intensity have always been over and he always generated good pops among the crowds whenever he showed up but he made a mayor mistake with that role model stunt he was trying to pull during the 90's, one of the edgiest, most nihilistic cultural eras in recent history; the golden years of Beavis & Butt-Head, Ren & Stimpy or the Simpsons and he tried to give life affirming advices like some short of He-Man at the end of his episodes? No wonder that his third run flopped, things could have gone better for him if he tried a heel/tweener turn...
He was out of place and the law of diminishing returns applied brutally.
Brutus beefcake was the only member of OWN.
Even better, after Warrior he was the 2nd member of a ONE Warrior Nation.
You mean booty man?
Call that stable “The Over-Pushed”.
I love going back in time and rewatching today's themed videos that stand the depths of time.
paul levesque: KING OF THE JABRONIS.
@Michael G and Sting should've beat him. I hate how they always try to make Triple H bigger than what he actually was. Guy wasn't ever on Stings level..
@@allensmithee6442 you're right.....he's miles ahead of stink the bible basher
@@PaulieD1984 stink the bible basher? Lol right.. hey remember at summer slam a few years back Triple H tried to get sympathy from the crowd post match and they booed his ass out of the arena? Pepperidge farm remembers..good times :)
@@allensmithee6442 that never happened you're a lying scumbag
You might be going over but you ain't going over me
Oh to be a fly on the wall of that dinner with Corny, Warrior and Bruce! Can just see Warrior going into one of his off the walls promos and tossing bits of salad around.
And JR. All three well known Warrior haters lol. And they had to go spend time with him and listen to his ideas
Yes, Brian. He wore a hat to the ring for a promo where he’d have a glass picture frame smashed over his head. I believe it was Lawler who said that he felt Warrior gave away the ending by wearing the hat because he never wore a hat so the crowd felt something was up.
Anybody who read Bret Hart's autobiography know what kind of person The Ultimate Warrior is.
Bret Hart is a liar who has made up many lies about Warrior. He is to this day still jealous of Warrior.
@@johndawhale3197 Hardly.
@@johndawhale3197 nope
@@johndawhale3197 warrior mark
@@johndawhale3197 Are you serious?
3:21 is so hilarious to me. "He accomplished all of those things." 🤣🤣🤣
Warrior wasn't cartoon and his promos are underappreciated. He was a colorful, jacked up musclehead and all his promos needed was rage and intensity and he had that up and down. He was REALISTIC. You bought that he could murder some dude in the ring.
Jeffrey Riley ...No. he was an absurd, cartoonish fabrication. Revealing an enormous lack of sophistication on the part of the man himself. A grave disappointment, and frankly, an embarrassment to the emotional maturity of the great majority of the audience.
I “thumbs down” your comment to infinity!
He was a Paint Faced Sh!t head!
How were his promos realistic? Are you sane?
Warrior was the epitome of a heel who truly believed that he was a face.
Also someone find a picture of Warrior coming to the ring in a hat. I must see this lol
Warrior was not a heel at any point of his career...
@@johndawhale3197 you’re totally missing my point
@@johndawhale3197 Yes he was, in texas, world-class wrestling! managed by Gary hart!
I love it when Corny shoots on The Ultimate Warrior. Makes me laugh every time.
Warrior had the most intense promos, exciting entrances and infectious energy of all time.
Corny had a tennis racket.
Corny had better promos. Warrior had the better entrance. Both appreciated avant garde wardrobes.
@@jonathancarlson6127 Corny’s promos got him to the midcard in a dying regional territory. Warrior’s promos got him the WWF championship dropped by the Babe Ruth of pro wrestling. 😉
Cornette should have inducted Warrior into the WWE Hall of Fame!!
Having a older nostalgia act that was not a good worker squashing a younger talent who was a better worker with potential is always a bad idea
Ultimate Warrior was definitely a star and a legend. He had the charisma and was over. It's a shame he was a jerk when it came to booking though. One of my favorite matches of all time though was Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude at Summerslam 1989 (i believe that was it) and Jesse Ventura was commentating and his line "hitting him with the belt?! This should be a disqualification! *Warrior hits him* That's a disqualification! Where the hell is the referee?!"
Rick Rude made that match what it was. Warrior, for all his "charisma" was a horrible worker.
Warrior had no wrestling ability zero.
A lot of hate for a guy who passed away 7 years ago.
@@davidmiller7290 golden era was targeted to yougner kids who didn't notice or care warrior couldn't wrestle.i don't care if warrior can't fight he charismatic
Wrestlers are really basically comic books super heroes. You can’t just have an invulnerable Superman hero for too long because it’s boring. Everyone needs a krytonite or at least a character flaw that makes them more relatable or gives them a reason how they can lose.
Say wat u want hes the reason I fell in Luv wit wrestling wen I was like 6 yrs old 🐏
@Thomas Johnson jim is sayin Warrior should have never even been allowed in the Business, I'm jus sayin u need those larger then life characters ,for the kids
lol. Nobody bought that comic. If I remember correctly They reviewed it on Atop the fourth wall. If someone wants to get a synopsis of that particular insanity.
Doesn't Warrior put Santa Claus in bondage gear in the last issue?
@@Jackalblade9 I'm actually watching those episodes now. Since I didn't remember seeing the original episode. In the Christmas special...one possible interpretation of a panel. He just might have raped Santa. lol. He's knocked out on the ground in just a pair of boxers with a mysterious fluid on his upper body. While warrior is putting on Santa's pants.
But in fairness the comics seem to be the perfect comic adaptation of a warrior promo. I'm amazed that it got 4 issues.
It does have the 4 possible definitions of "destrucity". The only one that the name makes sense but the concept is still batshit crazy. Is "when ones DESTiny has a TRUce with their current reaLITY".
@@deadaccount7520 Soooo....that's actually worse than I heard. Wow.
@@Jackalblade9 seemed more like he raped Santa. Which shows again, the biggest homophobes are closet gays usually
I have the first one. There was supposed to be more, but I never found them as a kid. I don't know if they were even released.
I’m kinda glad warrior fizzled out in 1996 could you imagine ultimate warrior vs Shawn Michaels in 1996 at survivor series it could have been worse than Goldberg vs undertaker last year.
Warrior and Michaels were cool with each other and they had good in-ring chemistry. I remember them battling each other in part of the Royal Rumble from 1992 I believe.
I saw macho man vs ultimate warrior at wrestlemania so I can imagine a good match. warrior did well when he had a skilled opponent. can't deny rude / warrior and savage / warrior were very good. even savage / warrior years later at Summerslam was decent. hbk / warrior would have done enough to get a good match
@@saveus228 how would Stone Cold Steve Austin do against The Ultimate Warrior?
The feud with rude is what made warrior look good and really got him over and we no warrior sucked so how good was rude
deevahgirl his feud with Savage and Undertaker were also good. Stop downplaying the Ultimate Warrior.
Those were good feuds but it takes 3 of the top tear wrestler's to have a decent match with him. And on a personal problem I have with this guy is he wouldn't shake my hand at autograph signing then watched my father a out of shape cop on duty knock him out then like the wimp he was wouldn't get up kurt Henning was laughing cuz a fat guy made him look like shit
Rude was the most underrated wrestler of his era
Alex S no he wasn't. He was on the verge of the world title before going out. Then went on and had an amazing career in WCW. 3x world champion. And 14 month US Heavyweight Champion.
Know Your Role Boulevard maybe I misspoke. I meant he was in my opinion the best wrestler to never be WWE champion and you talk to a lot of fans, even from that era, and he doesn’t get mentioned nearly enough when discussing the all time greats. To me he had it all, the look/body, the promos, and he was great in ring.
Warrior wasn’t the greatest wrestler but he was in two of my favourite wrestling moments as a kid, when he press slammed hogan WM6 and when he beat macho man at WM7.
That sigh before Jim Cornette said anything is very telling.
I love the art work of these!
The Ultimate Warrior was more over in his day than HHH could dream of being. He was as over as Hogan. Everyone knew who he was wrestling fan or not. Hogan, Warrior, and Macho Man were household names. We sadly don’t have stars like them anymore.
magilla2282 okay but that’s still irrelevant as to how Warrior treated HHH in the match!!
Also just to throw it out there, Wrestling in 80s to early 90s was a different time, in the sense that Wrestlers were more universally known!
But of those three, warrior was HORRIBLE in ring. He made John Cena look like AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan
I love how the Pedigree was protected over the decades and Warrior sold for 2 seconds before he got up. A face planted Pedigree, no-sold....
southerncajuncharm I was watching wrestling back then. He didn’t have the longevity Hogan did but he was a real life super hero. As a kid to me Ultimate Warrior was on the same level as Hogan. I lived it and didn’t get my opinion from dirt sheets and Warrior badgers.
Wasn’t even close to being as over as Hogan was
When you look back and look objectively at warrior, he looks poor wrestler but when you’re a kid watching him , he was the main man. It was more about his energy and brand that worked so well. Like the running in ring and shaking ropes. Who else runs in ring ?
John Cena
No one that cares about having a decent match
@@flashfunk0373 na
Warrior returning at Wrestlemania 12 was the real main event for me and many other fans. Him beating HHH the way he did is exactly how us fans wanted Warriors match to go down. Plus HHH was jobbing quick in his prior ppv match in Mabel's Survivor Series team to Undertaker. And another thing, even if he hated his dad and didnt speak to him he has every right to he upset and sad about it as it's still his father. It could affect someone as they didnt end on good terms and wished things ended better. It can really affect you... wrestling needs weird personalities like Ultimate Warrior
It’s Destrucity pal
Gerald Brisco was the agent for the WM 12 match between warrior and HHH
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!! 🙌🐐🐐
The Warrior was exciting and without fail the whole arena was on it's feet when he ran down the aisle. He trained with RVD before his last match and performed a flying crossbody and superplex from the top rope..he did want to get better..And his piledrivers were fuckin awesome.
that guy was a money making machine for the WWF. JIm doesn't seem to mention that. being a kid back then I remember how huge he was in popular culture.
My big birthday present was my poor dad buying the In Your House PPV and putting up with me and my friends chanting for Warrior vs Goldust. Warrior comes out...and smokes...and wtf...even my poor dad was like...THIS IS YOUR HERO???!!! I was so let down.
That was so odd...One of them was hurt or something, right?
awwww
I Bet your father was like *"You little asshole you, I just spent $60.00 on this garbage just for you to see this man smokes"* LOL! I can't lie I would of been mad cause I didn't make my child happy and I lost money..a total let down for the dad too..
@@kenrickeason at least "In Your House" ppv were cheap, like $20. I don't remember this though, I have to look it up.
I just watched on daily motion. That was bizarre and bad but Goldust was definitely injured. I wonder who the bodyguard was that they got to take a few bumps?
“They put his f*cking warrior facepaint eye thing” 😂
Warrior beating HHH is a 5 star classic to me
Call me crazy but I liked the warrior and in a way him leaving as quick as he appeared is what made him more of an attraction ..u never knew when he would turn up or for how long..if he had been a jobsworth and stayed for years would of diluted him ..he would of gone stale ..so in a weird way him being an asshole actually helped him get over
I don't think anyone missed him when he disappeared in 96,or wanted him back afterwards
@@smarkslowplay3512 I just told u i missed him and wanted him to come back i was a huge warrior mark ..i started watching wwf as a 7 year old in 89 the first mania i ever saw was 6 with Hogan vs warrior it was like 2 gods doing battle..so I will always have nostalgia for that era because that's the era I grew up on
Best HHH match ever! Dose of his own medicine!
😂 never thought of it that way every guy triple h buried he pictured warrior
I watch this match several times every month just so I can laugh my ass off. Yeah, EFF YOU Triple H, that's for screwing over Sting. LONG LIVE THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR!!!
enzyme 2000 except for the fact this is probably what taught triple h how to bury people
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 Taught him? No man, with all due respect I disagree. This is just what insecure guys do! HHH is no different than Warrior or Hogan or.... Look he did not want Angle to be champion! Telling Vince "hes too small!" Curt Angle Olimpic Gold Medalist! Gerald Brisco responded "why don't you shoot with him and see who wins!" And HHH shut up! So HHH is no innocent guy that was injustly moulded by suffering a cruel job.
I mean, it was one match......and it didn't bury Hunter, cause he paid his dues after the Curtain Call, 97 he was on the rise.
This was before Jim got there but Warrior had classic matches with Rude, Hogan at WM VI and Savage at WM VII. Yes, they led him along but he was still able to perform.
WouId Iove to see a Dark Side of the Ring styIe re-enactment of that Dest-truth-city dinner with Warrior, Prichard, Vince and Corny shaking his head saying WTF!
And linda while Warrior is constantly f bombing everything. This should be an episode in the Vince McMahon Netflix series
The only way a Warrior episode should happen on Dark Side is if Corny is part of it.
Looks like you got your wish...
I watched that episode when I was a kid. I remember thinking HE WEARS HATS???That totally killed Warriors gimmick
So he wore a cap? Who gives a shit.? It was his gimmick, he could do whatever he wanted with it.
I'm suprised they drew 80s warriorn in the thumbnail instead of his leaner 96 look
not complaining tho these illustrations are works of art
“And nod, I would’ve been nodding a lot” 😂😂
Hmm, never thought much about Sid replacing Warrior that summer, but now I wonder: if Sid had not just happened to be available, what would WWF have done? Was anyone else credible just sitting around at that point?
There is always Stan Henson ;)
@Joe Greene 😂😂😂😂😂😂 now that's funny!!
Tatanka could had been brought back as a face and build a new unbeaten streak since his manager Ted Dibiase was already gone by the summer and there was also no Lex Luger for him to feud with
Naw jake roberts was also put out that summer.
Someone once told me that Ultimate Warrior is better then Brock Lesnar. I haven't talk to her since our divorce.
@Stephen Joens lmfao. Well played.
Brock Lesnar hasn't been in decent shape in over 10 years...
The Warrior Triple H match was exactly what it should've been. There's no way vince mcmahon would disagree privately.
You're right. The Ultimate Warrior is one of the biggest stars in wrestling history.
@@PaddyandJohnny he was for maybe 2 years total. He sucked ass.
I agree that warrior needed to come back strong. They could have had much more even matches after, though, in my opinion
i remember when he debut in wcw, he just looked small. he looked so much shorter then Hogan then what I remembered from their time in WWF.
The warrior gimmick was somewhat dated in '96 (and his hair), however I believe his new no bullshit attitude mentality may have helped begin the attitude era (Austin, DX eg.)
Matts Vanderstank Agreed...I think Warrior would have been amazing during the attitude era.
Ah yes, the infamous warrior comic book which includes him raping santa and blowing up an 18 wheeler for reasons that were never made completely clear.
@Tim
I read it years ago.
It's just as crazy as you'd expect, especially when he starts fighting aliens in a coma dream.
Great video, the best Ultimate Warrior story in my opinion comes from "Jake The Snake Roberts: Pick Your Poison" DVD. The whole "secrets of the darkness" run with Roberts.
Hell no. I have that DVD and I have brets hart and I have Ultimate warrior self destruction. Self destruction explains his self destruction. Jake the snake dvd was about how fucked up jakes life was. He had a small conversation regarding the warrior. Bret also talked about warrior in his dvd. So warrior did something that these guys didn't. Sometimes you have to be careful and selfish only thinking about you. If not you become vulnerable helping people out.
@@brianticas7671 The two things I agreed with what The Ultimate Warrior on is the fact he was willing to not perform without a raise. The WWF was stiffing him while he was being portrayed as "the top guy." His merchandise sells were doing great as well. It took a great amount of courage to stand up for himself. The other Ultimate Warrior thing I agree with was his return before his untimely death. Though viewed as a bad caricature with good ring entrance music. He still is one of the more over guys not sporting red and yellow.
The agent for that match was Gerald Brisco.
In Living Corny 😆👍🏼
Thank you for giving me something to take my mind off of life in these negative times Jim, I want to do the same for other people with my content aswell xD
Nice try pal
Warrior makes Shawn Michaels look like a fucking boy scout! 🤣🤦
Warrior was a scumbag, his death doesn't change that.
I would argue that Warrior did get better during his first run.
I agree. His match with Hogan at WM 6 was pretty damn good. But the fact he proved he could do it if he gave it a fair chance and then still dropped the ball only makes it worse.
@@ESFAndy011 yeah , after is first run. He lost it .
Never a good wrestler but god damn it used to be awesome when they played his music, he sprints down the aisle, then starts shakin them ropes like a fucking maniac.
Corny became Greg the Flamboyant Kid from Curb during “Hated It”
He was Goldberg before Goldberg .. but his promos were nutty as a squirrel turd
I'm not really a fan of the human behind the Ultimate Warrior, and I definitely understand why Jim wasn't a fan of his ring work (his clotheslines always sucked to me, and that's...not a good move to suck on), but I was a fan of the gimmick as a kid and nostalgia kept me coming back. I still enjoy watching his old matches, and his promos make me laugh.
All that said, Sid might have been a better worker than Warrior but to this day I find Warrior far more entertaining in the ring. Replacing him with Sid was painful to me. On the other hand, whatever Triple H became in the future, at that time he was simply a good wrestler working his ass off in the business. He deserved far better treatment than he got from Warrior in their Wrestlemania match.
Looking back at some of the warrior stuff, really isn't good stuff, even promos. Macho Man had some crazy promos but you could follow what he was putting down. Warrior was just pure chaos spoken. But the little kid me from back in the days in the 80s thought, he was great. So, yeah fans probably look back bit more fonder on the warrior than probably people who had to work with him.
His gimmick fit WWF more in the 80s. In 96 things was changing stuff like the Warrior gimmick was stale to fans. But you know Vinny loves big sweaty dudes. Yeah people popped for the warrior, but people always pop when a big name from the past comes back.
That treatment HHH got a lot of guys got.
@RCP Pilot at that point HHH wasn't at the level doing a short squash match on PPV, bit above that.
We are not including what he did in past far burials, but what he has done at that time... because that would be judging him on things he has yet to do.
Some of that booking of burials wasn't because HHH said so. That is factor too. Every top guy politic, ran people out of that company, buried people. From Rock, Austin, Hulk, Cena, even top guys from the territories.
@RCP Pilot not really at that time, that isn't what the booker planned. The booker saw that HHH was more than just a job guy and this wasn't supposed to be short squash match.
Paying your due has fuck all to do with what is booked.
Sorry Warrior went to business for himself that night.
I thought his match with Macho Man was good and one of the best matches. Warrior had some good matches. The one with Hercules sucked because two equals like they were made the match slow and showed their flaws.
rude vs warrior was good too
I remember when he came to WCW and I was so excited, then his first promo went on and on and on and on and I didn’t understand any of it. Still love UW though....
He went into business for himself he was told by the agents to have a competitive match. I've seen him have longer matches with jobbers on TV than he did with Triple H.
Say what you will, but I found the Ultimate Warrior to be DAMNED entertaining. Whether I was a child thinking he was really beating the hell out of guys, or an adult laughing at his promos, I would always watch, when Warrior was on. LOL The Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man Randy Savage cut some of the greatest promos in WWF history! Fight me, if you disagree. LMAO
My ex boyfriend was a wrestling fanatic and he loved it when he found out that I was. He LOVED the Ultimate Warrior and would race around acting like him. I was like ‘What?? Seriously?’ Maybe why we broke up. You liked him or you so didn’t. A relationship between the two opposing sides didn’t work, I guess.
There is another time where Jim goes into more detail about that visit to Phoenix and how the “It’s Destrucity, pal” line came up. Basically Jim tried to talk to Vince and butchered saying Destrucity and Vince corrected him because he was all into Warrior 😂
Hahah space cadet!!!
1:21 I'm picturing Vince McMahon holding a swinging medallion in the ring towards the crowd.
Warrior in 96’ was flat out played out by then
It looked gimmicky & cartoonish
It wasn’t 1992 anymore, his gimmick needed to evolve into something more modern
It was very memorable the way it was done. If its a 10min match we wouldn't be talking about it still. Say what you will about warrior he was right on this one
He was over!!!
T Thompson
...and done with.
@@kelman727 fair enough
WARRIOR was absolutely perfect to grab people's attention in that era!! His look and attitude was pure electric for the fans. Entrenched management like Jim Ross and Cornette never liked or had patience with anyone who didn't spend years wrestling in indy shows for peanuts. Not that WARRIOR ever personally disrespected them , it's just common place to hate on outsiders who aren't considered "one of the boys".
100% Jim is so easy to read ha.
Apparently, his downfall was only partly due to the fact that his wresting mates thought he never paid his dues. The other part was purely due to the fact that he was an absolute ass to his fellow employees, management and others. While I do not want to speak ill about a dead guy, let's not kid ourselves, the man behind the Warrior was an absolute lunatic and dug his own grave by making demands that made Hulk Hogan look like an angel.
@@aswinastro you're either delusional, or you're one of the funny bunnies who got their precious feelings hurt by WARRIOR'S " Queering doesn't make the world work" response to a heckler.
@@taurusone5554 Nope, I am neither delusional nor hurt by Ultimate Warrior's comments or ideology. In fact, i respected the guy. My only qualm with Ultimate Warrior is that he once refused to meet a dying kid as a part of the Make-a-Wish Commitment. Here is the story: prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/ultimate-warrior-make-wish/
I am not judging the warrior, I am merely reiterating the fact that very few wrestlers actually paint a positive side of him, meaning he was an ass to most of them. I am sorry if that hurt you. But I was merely pointing to the facts that were raised by Wrestlers who actually worked with him and knew him well. Maybe, he was a genuinely good person who was misunderstood or maybe he was not.
@@aswinastro what if that story is a lie for a book by someone who was jealous of warrior?? warriors trainer bill anderson doesnt believe it czcams.com/video/jNT9H5LvZTI/video.html
Did you notice how Triple H was so slow landing on the ground and getting back up after the ultimate warrior wanted to him with another clothesline
The match lasted less than 2 or 3 minutes because Warrior half gassed before he ever got in the ring.
Even though he didn't follow creative, he was still more over than most at the time.