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What Really Happened at the Alamo?-The Experiment Podcast
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- This episode was originally published on August 5, 2021.
The epic, oft-told origin story of Texas centers on the Lone Star State’s most infamous battle: the Battle of the Alamo, where American heroes such as Davy Crockett fought to the death against the Mexican army to secure Texas’s independence. The only problem, according to the writer and journalist Bryan Burrough, is that this founding legend isn’t all true. In June, Burrough and two other Texan writers set out to debunk the myth of the Alamo, only to find themselves in an unexpected battle with Texans still trying to protect their state’s revered origin story.
“The Anglo power structure here, which still dominates politics and the media,” Burrough says, “can clearly see that if the myth melts away, other things could begin to melt away as well.”
In this episode of The Experiment: how a history book ignited a ferocious debate over Texas’s founding legend, and how this battle climbed the ranks all the way up to the Texas GOP.
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I was convinced my wife was a sufferer of Alamo fever when we met because she told me she was a decendant of a soldier in the Texas Revolution. It wasn't until I saw her genealogical research that I saw she was indeed a decendant of John R. Moss who fought under General Sidney Sherman at the battle of San Jacinto in the Nacogdoches Volunteers. A fun fact is that it is believed Sherman's regiment were the first people ever to shout the phrase "Remember the Alamo!" at that battle. I also found out that John R. Moss had owned Enchanted Rock and it had passed hands until being sold to the State by his decendants! I'm more proud of her Texas heritage than she is!
Dude you have a Spanish last name and you’re proud of your wife’s “Texan heritage”? That literally doesn’t make any sense to me.
@@mistermagoo8685 Ever heard of Tejano?
I wish tejanos got some respect it’s not just a type of “Mexican” music
San Antonio is a beautiful place. Not only for the Alamo, but for the riverwalk. I couldn't believe how awesome it was. Definitely a place to visit. I was there for a conference and was totally impressed.🌲
This is a big reason as to why I homeschool. I’m able to teach my son both sides of historical events. Your average teacher doesn’t have the time to go as deep as we can. Either that or for political reasons they aren’t allowed. I’m the one who gets to decide if my kid is emotionally mature enough to handle ugly truths of American history. I’m not afraid to challenge myths, legends and the surface level half truths that are in some textbooks. This book is very informative and reveals a deeper history that I was never taught in school. Right when my son thinks we are done with a topic I then say, “now for the other side.” I always want him to question everything. Don’t just believe this because I’m telling it to you. Dig deeper. Check your sources and always look at the other side. When learning about the Almo I was blown away to find out what I was taught was very surface level. I had no idea the fight had a lot to do with slavery! U.S settlers brought slaves with them which was illegal in Mexico. They fought to keep their slaves. There is much more to the story, and it was very interesting. I highly recommend this book.
*I live in SA. Have visited the Alamo several times. Happy to live in the US and not Mexico, but history is history and that's usually written by the victors. I would like to learn the final truth of this horrible and deadly battle that must've been a scary affair. Politics back then were a mess & settlers wanted a "free state", not a centralized nation run by the central power in Mexico and not by individual states wanting to run things as they saw fit. Did the Anglo-Saxon settlers WANT to run Tejas as in the Southern US states where I suspect most came from? Maybe or not, but settlers did need land to farm King Cotton that brought some ugly traditions of farm "labor". The ultimate goal of these settlers WAS to be assimilated into the United States. Sooner or later things would reach a breaking point.*
I don't know what brought Crockett down here besides wanting to get away from US politics. I like to think he didn't care about slavery, but came down here for land and adventure. He may have well stumbled into the politics going on and he and his men got caught up in it. Any information on whether he knew why and where he was going in Texas?
Come and take it!!
The entire Spanish-American war needs the same realization. USA likes to see themselves as exceptional, but they were as bad as Britain or France when it came to empire building.
And what about Mexico’s fight for independence from Spain? Was Spain also wrong for their empirical aspirations? Was Mexico wrong for fighting for their independence?
You fool.
@@NoHomo1776 I'm not talking about Spain's empire. I'm talking about America's empire. California, New Mexico, and most of Texas were taken from Mexico by force with the most shaky of premises. Thousands of innocent Phillipinos were murdered by American soldiers. These are facts; only fools ignore the facts.
@@sommmeguy
And I’m talking about Empire in general.
By the way, do you mean “Filipinos?” Oh boy, you’re all kinds of confused. There were no Filipinos involved in the land acquisition of the American southwest.
And going by your logic; Mesoamerica was taken from pre-existing tribes by force. Thousands of innocent tribesmen were murdered by the Aztecs. Then, Tenochtitlán in 1521 was taken from the Aztec empire by force, I presume on what you would consider “shaky premises.” Thousands of innocent Aztecs were murdered by Spanish conquistadors. Finally this Spanish territory was taken from Spain by force, again I presume on what you would consider “shaky premises.” Thousands of innocent Spaniards were murdered by Mexican soldiers. These are facts; only fools ignore the facts. And this is by your logic.
Leftists like you love pointing out the mote in another’s eye, but never consider the beam in their own eye.
@@NoHomo1776 You should read some history.
Fun quote for the US Department of State:
The ensuing Philippine-American War lasted three years and resulted in the death of over 4,200 American and over 20,000 Filipino combatants. As many as 200,000 Filipino civilians died from violence, famine, and disease.
I could find many other sources for you with much less favourable interpretations.
Oh yeah, and Cain killed Abel, so that makes everything OK now, right? That's the lesson we learned from that story. What you are doing is called "muddying the waters". It's what you do when you have a weak argument and you are too stupid to realize it.
It’s easy to look at it that way when it didn’t happen to your country. The fact is, the true history of the Alamo is intentionally lied about in classrooms because we Americans don’t like to be looked upon as “the bad guys”. Many, many times we were the bad guys. If you want to be a proud American, you have to be humble enough to accept the truth and the truth is, there are things that we shouldn’t be proud of.
Let's don't forget that Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiery only to be executed moments later. Travis committed suicide at the north wall, when he saw all was lost. Bowie was killed in his bed of illness. Over 100 Alamo defenders jumped the walls of the Alamo compound only to be lanced down by General Sesma's lancers.
I wish there were more of you moderate senior G Bush Republican. Where are you all? America needs you now more than ever.
a pro choice republican is a delusional person
I was gonna take you seriously until you said that. No one can be pro choice and a republican and somethine is wrong with you that you thing that changed in the last 5 years. I am 43 and that's not a thing my entire life. Wake up already.
DJT fucked his life up
Mexican we’re fighting slavery
Mexico was fighting to retain its land, nothing else.
@@oldhippiejontypical white ignorance
That's true bro
No one in San Antonio goes to the Alamo, complete bullshit😂😂😂😂